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>Agenten hebben een app op de telefoon waarmee zij de chip kunnen scannen van je id-kaart en daarmee je gegevens ophalen. Ik denk niet dat ze een foto gemaakt hebben.
Dit dus. De politie maakt geen foto van je ID, ze gebruiken de camera en OCR om de onderste 2 stroken van je paspoort uit te lezen (de zgn. Machine Readable Zone). Hierin staat informatie die ze nodig hebben om de chip in je paspoort uit te lezen. Specifiek het documentnummer, je geboortedatum en de vervaldatum van het document. Hieruit wordt een sleutel afgeleid welke gebruikt wordt om toegang te krijgen tot de chip (Basic Access Control heet dit mechanisme). Dit voorkomt dat iedereen zomaar op afstand de chip kan uitlezen.
Hiermee kan de politie je persoonsgegevens uitlezen (hoeven ze die niet over te typen) en een high-res kleuren versie van de foto op je paspoort, zodat ze makkelijker kunnen zien of jij het bent. Verder kan je er mee vaststellen dat de gegevens echt zijn (Passive Authentication), en dat het geen kopie is (Active Authentication). Er staan ook vingerafdrukken in je paspoort maar daar kunnen ze niet bij (die zitten achter een extra beveiligingslaag).
Als je een Android telefoon hebt met NFC kan je dit zelf proberen.
You can try an Android app like ReadID to verify that the RFID chip is still functional:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
(not vouching for that app, but seems to have good reviews, could try running it in with mobile data disabled and uninstalling it before re-enabling mobile data)
Beyond that, make sure the ink of the machine-readable zone at the bottom of the biopage, and the other written information on is still clearly legible, and the photo has not been degraded, and the same for any visa stickers / foils / vignettes / stamps.
As long as the passport seems generally of the same condition, probably should not be a problem.
The pin is in your passport. This is to prevent strangers scanning your passport by just standing next to you with a powerful scanner.
You just need an Android phone with NFC capabilities, plus this app.
>>A private company has your photo > >No they dont. Customs does. The govt.
No, they do. If you gave them your passport, they do.
If you have an android phone with NFC, you can test this for yourself if you download the right app.
If you scan your passport with it, manually insert your birthdate and passport number (this is to prevent strangers from scanning your passport by just walking next to you), it will decrypt the RFID on the Passport, and give you a digital copy of your passport photo.
This digital photo can then be used to cross-reference with the physical copy of your photo. It works on French passports. I assume it will work on American passports as well.
But coming back to my original statement, this means that once scanned, the airline could just keep the digital copy of your photo and your passport information.
> Ik geloof trouwens dat in de chip van een paspoort wel een kleurenfoto wordt opgeslagen, naast de vingerafdrukken. De kleurenfoto zal dus in de praktijk ook vrijwel nooit worden uitgelezen
Gevaarlijke opmerking.
In tegenstelling tot voor de vingerafdruk, volstaat voor het uitlezen van de pasfoto enkel BAC. Ofwel: de MRZ (Machine Readable Zone) onderaan de pagina is alles wat je nodig hebt om 'm te kunnen uitlezen. Iedereen die je paspoort in handen heeft kan dat dus.
En ja, die is in kleur. Probeer zelf maar (Android)
To be fair, it's not difficult to access this - I took apart a contactless credit card a while ago, was pretty more or less the same as this. You can just peel apart the sandwich layers in your passport to access the chip. And as it's RFID, it will just give you a series of numbers - apparently you can access this with an Android smartphone, so I believe it wouldn't be too hard to duplicate.
De data is vergrendeld met andere data wat op je id kaart/rijbewijs/paspoort staat, kan gemakkelijk uitgelezen worden met deze app
No need. To read the passports rfid chip, you first need the machine readable data set (mrz) on the inside bottom of your passport. Otherwise if anyone just wirelessly scans your passport without the mrz, they won't have any useful or personal data on you.
Take a look at this app if you wanna see what data your passport has.
Also due to the nature of nfc, even with directional antennas (and this type on antenna would be pretty obvious), it's hard to read anything more than a few meters away. But if you feel so inclined to buy one, there are tons of RFID shielded passport holders.
Is your passport not biometric? If it is, all the information should be available on the chip. Use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase&hl=en. I'm sure the App Store has an equivalent.
Also of note: if your denied entry to a country, the airline has to pay to send you back. That's why they generally do a good job checking destination entry requirements when you check in.
If your smartphone has nfc and runs Android you can scan it yourself at home and check if it works:
http://innovalor.nl/nfc-passport-reader-demo-app-faq
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lHZOVxYcobc
Make sure you place your phone close to the passport chip. If your passport's personal page is made from plastic then the chip is in this page.
There's several Android apps that can read passports assuming your phone has a NFC chip (most do now):
Here's the top one I found:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
Not sure if something similar exists for iOS.
Ha van egy NFC képes Android mobilod, akkor ezzel az app-pal be tudod olvasni az új személyiből minden adatod, a fotód és még az aláírásod is.
Med en android telefon så kan du laste ned en app som leser innholdet på passet ditt, merk at dataen er kryptert så du må inn med Passnr ditt som står inni for å kunne lese av. Da får du se bildet ditt også. Se herfor en app som funker
> Er zijn apps beschikbaar waarmee je zelf de basisgegevens van een elektronisch paspoort uit kunt lezen, alleen zou ik die niet zomaar vertrouwen (wat er uit die chip komt is genoeg voor serieuze identiteitsfraude).
ReadID kun je vertrouwen, gaat al jaren mee en is van een keurig Nederlands bedrijf
> could my passport chip be damaged?
Possibly. You can try checking it with the ReadID NFC app for Android or iPhone:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/readid-nfc-me/id1463949991
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
(Some older or cheaper Android phones might not have an NFC reader.)
> Could it perhaps work with another phone
Potentially. If the app cannot properly read the NFC from the passport, even after powering off and on the phone (and making sure the app has all permissions, if on Android), you can try another phone. An NFC reader is just like any other electronics, and could potentially fail because of various software or hardware issues.
By the way, because you're mentioning the ID Check app instead of the EU Exit app, but your flair says "EU" --
Are you an EU / EEA national? If so, what was the last day you were physically present in the UK for even one minute, for any purpose, prior to 1 January 2021?
Ez nagyon jó!!!! :)))
Felraktam a listádról (nyilván nem konkrétat linkeltél) a legtöbbet letöltött darabot, 100.000 letöltéssel:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
Elinditottam. Első lépés: Nyissam ki az útlevelet és fotózzam le az arcképes oldalt. (nfc biztonsági szakértőknek hint: kiolvasni a kódot, amivel az nfc titkositva van)
Nem akarom nemhogy lefotózni az adatokat az útlevelemből, de még kinyitnisem szeretném.
Hogyan tovább, biztonsági szakértő úr?
> i want to make sure that my passport chip works fine
You can use the ReadID NFC app for Android or iPhone to test whether the RFID / NFC chip was affected:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
Take some photos of it (front cover, side view, back cover, and the bio / photo page from a slightly tilted angle while masking / covering your personal information), and upload it to an Imgur album, and paste the link here.
That way, we can review just how bad the warping and deterioration might be, and whether immigration officials in stricter countries may be likely to view it as damaged.
> scanned to see if the electronic components are still in tact?
You can use the ReadID NFC app for Android or iPhone to test whether the RFID / NFC chip was affected:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
Even if you're right, they've made it super easy to download that digital photo out of the RFID chip on your passport.
Don't get me wrong, the person still needs to open your passport and input your birthdate and passport ID into their device before it will decrypt your picture.
This is to prevent perfect strangers from scanning your passport by just standing next to you. But still, if you hand over your passport to someone, they made it very easy for that person to download the digital copy of it (to make sure the physical copy hasn't been altered at least).
Just like the California DMV has made it super easy for anyone with a magnetic reader to do the same with your driver's license/ID. I'm only speaking about the normal California driver's license (I haven't upgraded to Real ID yet, so I don't know anything about that one yet).
And I replied to those posts saying that I really doubt that's the case.
If my Android phone can download that digital picture, I'm sure anyone else can.
I fly to Frankfurt from Istanbul. In Frankfurt my EU passport was auto scanned on "no police check point glass door" and my face was auto scanned by camera, I think to match the image in the passport.
Also passports have high resolution images in their chips https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
If you have an android phone you can check the chip yourself! You are going to need NFC in your phone and this app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
You can verify if the chip works and if the data is readable.
And yet, for a private company to scan your passport, it only needs an Android phone with NFC, and this app.
Si tu celular tiene NFC puedes leerlo con esta app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
You can use Read ID - NFC Passport Reader to read the ID.
Io con questa app sono riuscito a leggere la mia carta d'identità.
A másik kommentelő által linkelt app jól működik, de egyébként az https://eszemelyi.hu alkalmazás is érdekes lehet.
The S10 would do. I've got the same phone You need to use something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
You can use the ReadID NFC app for Android or iPhone to test whether the RFID / NFC chip was affected:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/readid-nfc-me/id1463949991
(Some older or cheaper Android phones might not have an NFC reader.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase
If your passport chip does scan properly for you, then the airport equipment might have been faulty.
If it does not, your passport chip might be faulty. If you wish, you can use Form DS-11 to apply for a new passport. Otherwise you can continue using that passport, but be prepared for possible delays upon entry to various countries as they are forced to manually swipe the passport, etc.
So the Driver's License is 8 digit PIN based. The JP Passport and foreign residence card are "BAC" (Basic Access Control) based. What BAC means is that the "password" to see what's in the chip is some piece of information that's printed on the front of the card or passport (the machine readable zone). Do that... and the chip will reveal its contents... which is the exact same information that is on page 1 of your passport or the front of the residence card.
So you're probably thinking, "wait, so I need to be able to see the front of my card / first page of the passport in order to decode the chip, and the only thing the chip will tell me is the exact same things that are already printed on the passport / card for all to see? What's the point in that?"
The point is that counterfeiters can't counterfeit the digital version because it's crypto-signed (with the exact same public key technology that's used to sign websites etc for banking and the tech is standardized and been proven for years).
BAC means you can't skim the card unless you can already see the card, and if you can see the card, you don't need to skim it because you already know all the details of the card.
> anyone would be able to read the data on anyone's card.
That's correct. You can do that with your or your friends driver's licenses and passports right now with apps already available for download, and the code is even open source so others can easily make variant apps.
The data on the card is not exciting. It is literally the exact same data that is on the front of your card. And the only way you can read the chip to see the contents of the front page of your passport / id-card is if... you can already see the passport info with your own eyes.
Unless of course the card has been forged or tampered with. :)
Go ahead and try one of the apps with your own drivers license or passport:
It's encoded in full color on the chip inside the passport. You can use an app to see it yourself.
Wikipedia dice tutt'altro riguardo a come funzionano il BAC (che contiene le informazioni che puoi leggere sulla carta di identità e sul passaporto a vista) e l'EAC (che contiene informazioni sensibili quali impronte digitali o dell'iride).
Comunque tornando al discorso che fai, usando questa app o anche quest'altra si riescono a leggere i dati del passaporto via nfc comprensivi della foto a colori, come fanno visto che come dici tu i dati sono criptati dall'impronta digitale?
P.S. Giusto per completezza, alla dogana in Romania il poliziotto ha preso la mia carta di identità elettronica, l'ha messa sul suo lettore nfc e sul monitor è apparsa la mia foto con i miei dati anagrafici senza che io mettessi il dito da nessuna parte.
I'm ~~99%~~ 100% sure it does contain a ~30KiB JPEG/JPEG2000 image.
ICAO ref, "Deployment of Biometric Identification and Electronic Storage of Data in eMRTDs": http://www.icao.int/publications/Documents/9303_p10_cons_en.pdf
Search "portrait":
>Note.— Data Element 02 SHALL be encoded as defined in [ISO/IEC 10918], using the JFIF option or [ISO/IEC 15444] using JPEG 2000 image coding system.
And a US (VWP) reference: https://www.dhs.gov/e-passports
>The United States requires that the chip contain a digital photograph of the holder.