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https://www.amazon.com/Gang-Leader-Day-Sociologist-Streets/dp/014311493X
True story, that's how it worked in the Robert Taylor homes. The gang leaders, building managers, and police had an uneasy truce.
If someone did some stupid shit that was out of line, the gang leaders would make sure to quietly rat out the perpetrator via the building crew.
I'm pretty sure that the recent rise in random street violence is directly related to the breakup/gentrification of the project homes. It's no different from the mafia or yakuza - once the central power is broken up, there are lots of low level thugs scrambling for money/power and nobody to keep them in line.
Read The Bible Unearthed. There isn't even any archaeological evidence for the genocide of Canaan or the Exodus. So now ya get to have Christians not only argue that the genocide happened because the Bible said so, but that it was morally justified. Fun!
Read up on your history before making assumptions
King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa https://www.amazon.com/dp/0618001905/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_aB8TBbCQ7Q6M1
There's actually a decent amount of Academia dedicated to figuring out how the Irish transitioned from identifiable ethnic minority to other white people. The most famous example is about how the Irish came to become oppressors, which is oF cOuRsE synonymous with white.
But the most profound way in which they became what was... they assimilated.
I mean, over 750,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from that land, with over 500 villages razed to the ground, many of them completely massacred. It's not really a radical thing to want your land back.
Read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe. Its quite an eye opener. Most Palestinians were actually ethnically cleansed before the war started, so saying its the arab countries fault is completely inaccurate. https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553
Highly recommend reading "King Leopold's Ghost" to anyone interested in the history of Belgian colonialist atrocities in Africa. Warning: it makes for grim reading.
This image gives sort of the essential idea of what has happened. I'd advise the book "the ethnic cleansing of Palestine" by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe to start understanding the history.
The Irish weren't always considered white. I haven't read the whole thing, but this book, How the Irish Became White, is pretty interesting.
> it coudl be argued much of africa has a better life and opportunity under colonialism
Read King Leopold’s Ghost from cover to cover before you ever make this claim again.
If someone came into your house and told you that their God told them that your house is now theirs, everyone in this sub would take up arms to protect themselves and their property. But since the conflict is targeted towards Muslims, everyone in this sub (and this political party) turns a blind eye.
What if it was Christian Palestinians? Who side would you be on? It’s irrelevant since Israel already killed all the Christians in Palestine in the 1940s......
If you want to educate yourself, here’s a book written by a former Israeli official, former Zionist about what happened in Palestine and Israel during the 1940s https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553
If you don’t believe that guy, you might believe the survivors of the USS Liberty, which was attacked by unmarked Israeli planes in 1967. They were threatened with death and treason charges to stay quiet on the matter until Lyndon Johnson died. Lyndon Johnson, during the incident, called off the reinforcements while the attack carried on for another 3 hours. But don’t worry, Israel apologized for killing 34 of our soldiers, saying it was an accident. https://www.amazon.com/Remember-Liberty-Almost-Sunk-Treason/dp/1634241088
Or just stay uninformed and blindly support your government, it’s your choice.
According to secular historians?
Yeah...not a chance.
The consensus is that pre-Exile, the Bible is entirely unreliable. Post-Exile it has a lot of fact, but it's heavily propagandized.
Here's a great book to read on the matter: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient/dp/0684869136
King Leopold's Ghost is a powerful book on Beligian atrocities in the Congo during its colonial period. Highly recommended for understanding what's taking place there to this day.
Because the whole country was taken away from them in a series of atrocities and evictions in the past 70 years.
Just imagine a house. If the house is yours and I slaughtered your family and evicted you. You would want the whole house back, not parts of it, right? Same thing with Palestine.
Hope that helps 🙃
If you wish to understand more about atrocities and evictions, then see https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1851685553/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_SEH1J4B822XQH1ZYMCJR
Check out: Gang Leader for a Day: https://www.amazon.com/Gang-Leader-Day-Sociologist-Streets/dp/014311493X -- the dealers don't make much money at all. They are kickin' the money to people up the food chain.
https://www.socialstudies.org/sites/default/files/publications/se/6206/620204.html
I'm just basically spamming this today, aren't I... Sigh
https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095
I'm actually just tired of this conversation with people. Every single person has an opinion about race and God damn near no one has ever read about it.
Gender doesn't exist, but sex does. Sex is not a social construct. One could argue that race is a social construct, see "how the Irish became white".
Yeah. And here’s some more! (That second one isn’t a source on it’s own, but has several citations)
This is also a blatant attempt to shift the conversation away from the original argument, how does Palestine’s laws justify Israeli human rights abuses!?
If you're interested in HOW the bible was put together, by who, and when, the The Bible Unearthed is a great resource. It uses known history, archaeology, etc. not religious views. It's well sourced, and interesting.
>There is also a tendency among the wealthy or "successful" in a minority community to believe they got their position on their merit (where merit has been decided by the shapers of the culture, in this case white people). This ignores the fact that to maintain their self-perception of superiority they will align themselves with the "dominant" forces against those they seem lesser.
True. See also: How the Irish Became White
>A doctor consistently performing hysterectomies on captive patients that are (illegitimately imo, but that's another discussion) wards of the state is terroristic
It's some Nazi-level shit
>First link, Arabs started the Nakba. Don’t blame us for a war consequences you started.
Jews started the anti Nazi boycotts. Dont blame Nazis for a war consequence you started.
And no, Arabs didn't start Nakba you liar. Nabka was planned decades before the 1948 "war".
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1851685553/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_HRFPHPDKJNRYSZGCTTR4
>Second link, it false, it wasn’t Palestine. It’s UK. Give me one name of Palestinian PM/President/King.
Mindless Jewish Nazi, I don't expect nothing more. Still indulging in slaughtering kids for your sadistic rituals?
Every person should read https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553 before choosing a side on this conflict. Majority of evangelical Christians are misinformed on the history of it. I admittedly was too for majority of my adult life.
Refusing a two-state solution by Israel at this stage and adopting the one-state means the West Bank and the Gaza Strip will get galloped by 'an ethnostate for Jews' and how would they handle a 6 million Arabs on their ethnostate? Read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé an ex-Israeli historian.
Our August 2018 Book of The Month
“Not in My Neighborhood: How Bigotry Shaped a Great American City” by Antero Pietila
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Eugenics, racial thinking, and white supremacist attitudes influenced even the federal government's actions toward housing in the 20th century, dooming American cities to ghettoization. The Federal Housing Administration continued discriminatory housing policies even into the 1960s, long after civil rights legislation.
This all-American tale is told through the prism of Baltimore, from its early suburbanization in the 1880s to the consequences of white flight after World War II, and into the first decade of the twenty-first century.
The events are real, and so are the heroes and villains. Mr. Pietila's narrative centers on the human side of residential real estate practices, whose discriminatory tools were the same everywhere: restrictive covenants, redlining, blockbusting, predatory lending.
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Our August 2018 Book of The Month “Not in My Neighborhood: How Bigotry Shaped a Great American City”
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Jimmy Carter, the only president to negotiate a lasting peace in the Mideast, wrote a book called Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.
We have massive amounts of evidence which contradicts the Bible's story. It's not just absence of evidence.
You should read this book. It gives the consensus archaeological view of the history of the early Bible. It's not quite up to date, but still very good. https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient/dp/0684869136
Yawn take this sad and wornout hasbara revisionism elsewhere, even Israeli historians admit to the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553
All of the facts in this video and more are in The Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman and if you read the book you will get more facts more efficiently (Finkelstein is interviewed on camera in the video). Nevertheless the video definitely adds. The CAD representations of the Temple Mount are the best I have seen. Also I have not before seen video of the Samaritans doing blood sacrifice by the ancient recipe and it makes for a whomping visual impact.
The life is in the blood. Yeah we all learned that part a long time ago but a picture can be worth a thousand words.
Or read a book. Shit, if you even read your own comment it shows that Belgium only sent troops to protect the white civilians. If you actually read that thread you'd see that the other UN members were opposed to providing support to the Belgian-backed secessionists and eventually even intervened to block and engage them. The only reason the US ended up involved on the behalf of the secessionists was because after they didn't want to back up the rebel factions those factions sought and received aid from the Communist bloc.
Though you did remind me that if we get any Free French forces for the Paris Liberation phase, we should probably get some Senegalese representation.
Eh, Israel would definitely lose this war. Arab militaries are mostly weak and poorly run (1, 2), but Turkey, Nigeria, and Indonesia all have fairly effective militaries. Also, Morocco and Egypt, the two most powerful and effective Arab militaries, would not be sitting this war out like they have more recent Arab-Jewish wars.
Of course, that disparity in military effectiveness sort of explains why this whole idea is laughable. This entire pseudo-state would effectively result in a few powerful cultures and militaries dominating everyone else, supposed brotherhood in Islam be damned. It would basically be a renewed Ottoman Empire, with Turks in the drivers' seat alongside Indonesians and a few other chosen peoples. I'm fairly certain the last time this happened there were one or two Arab revolts.
You know not of which you speak. Here’s the best book on “How the Irish Became White” in America: https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=55032724054&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-oLh5oeq-wIVvRTUAR2YqAWaEAAYASAAEgLEK_D_BwE&hvadid=274839014826&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9026928&hvnetw=g&a...
Meanwhile, as a Sicilian American, the evidence shows that while northern Italians were considered white back in the day that was not the case for southern Italians….