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Yep, kids on the way; had to sell his home and move in on the couch of another silicone valley investor to finish the first rocket launch that landed his first contracts. Said he was days away from being negative. This is an amazing read <EDIT harmless joke out> https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
My overall view is that he's an increadible, but deeply flawed, person.
He's simultaneously transforming the transportation, space exploration, and energy sectors all at once. He's already accomplished multiple things in aeronautics and transportation areas that nobody else had done before. I honestly think he's possibly the most important person alive, and we're really lucky to have him.
But... he's probably a narcissist, and at least appears to be an asshole.
Like many people who are increadible workers, he demands incredible amounts from the people around him. Often enough that he hurts them. If you read his biography it's replete with stories of Elon hurting people close to him because he doesn't seem to understand how they see the world. His ex-wife, Justine, wrote a really sad article about their divorce back in 2010. This doesn't excuse anything, but his biography strongly suggests he was abused as a child by his father.
He seems to share a lot of traits, both positive and negative, with some of the most successful people in history. It's possible to be that driven that something inside of you needs to be broken, or that you demand so much of yourself that you despise mediocrity in others.
> He essentially thinks only Jews have ever been held in concentration camps and that the term only refers to Jewish persecution.
wow he's a dumbass then. even if you debate what's happening on the us-mexico border, there's been literally thousands of concentration camps all over the world
maybe buy him this book https://www.amazon.com/Aquariums-Pyongyang-Years-North-Korean/dp/0465011047
There's quite a few details you're missing. There's also nuance with mergers and acquisitions. They're not the same.
I read this book a few years back, which was really interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVI76ZS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_9FFT0N90169W1V3VGEKK
All the cofounders put a lot of work into getting it off the ground - that includes musk.
It's not like PayPal was a successful business before the merger.
Dark Knight a True Batman Story is a book based on a real event that happened in the famous Batman author Paul Dini's life and how batman helped him get through a huge crisis. There is a lot of batman history involving random comics and the animated series that is really neat as well.
Basically Dini gets his ass beat really bad and the problem he faces at his job is that how does someone get inspiration to write about a hero who saves the innocent when he experienced what he did. This book will answer that.
It's surely not your average superhero crime fighting book but its a pretty quick read that is really well written. I couldn't put this down and I cant recommend this enough to anyone.
here is a amazon link https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Night-True-Batman-Story/dp/1401241433/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1469871215&sr=8-11&keywords=dark+knight
His father who owns a share of an emerald mine in Sough Africa, gave he and his brother $25k for their first company, Zip2, which they sold.
He left apartheid South Africa for Canada because he didn't want to participate in the mandatory service.
His biography has a good set of details on his early days.
Highly recommend this bio: https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=abf8a3e1-9d07-4541-bbf4-63c8425e19bd
It was written before alot of the recent craziness surrounding him and without his coordination so it's not just jerking him off. Goes really in depth into the inner workings and functionality of how he ran these companies simultaneously, how he leveraged them against each other, the level of competence needed to understand the technical and business sides of every technology. Goes into detail of the early stages of Tesla - yes he didn't start it from scratch, but it was BASICALLY from scratch - anything that you take from almost no valuation to multi billion is impressive...you don't have to be the original founder of something, it's just smart to start with some sort of bones rather than absolutely nothing... Also shows you how involved he is in the operations and the technical aspects of SpaceX - especially in the beginning as well. He's a physicist/programmer by trade who turned into a business mogul by necessity.
He's gone off the deep end a bit recently - but he's on another level than 99.999% of the population - so it's just funny when I hear normal folks try to talk about something they couldn't even begin to comprehend (myself included).
>As I’ve written in my book, Musk admitted to his biographer Ashlee Vance that Hyperloop was all about trying to get legislators to cancel plans for high-speed rail in California—even though he had no plans to build it.
https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460
Book they are discussing: https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
People wonder why Elon is so hell-bent on acquiring Twitter. He told us during the shareholder meeting that it would advance his plans by 3 years.
This is consistent with what is known about how he calculates things:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVI76ZS/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
Page 188:
"Sometimes he [Elon] wouldn't let you buy a part for $2,000 because he expected you to find it cheaper or invent something cheaper. Other times, he wouldn't flinch at renting a plane for $90,000 to get something to Kwaj [Island] because it saved an entire workday, so it was worth it. He would place this urgency that he expected the revenue in 10 years to be 10 million dollars a day, and that every day we were slower to achieve our goals was a day of missing out on that money." - Kevin Brogan, early SpaceX Employee
There's a book called Daily Rituals: How Artists Work by Mason Currey. It chronicles how a lot of famous artists, mostly writers, did their work.
You'd be shocked at how little some of the all-time greats got down on the page every day (and how much fucking around they did).
As long as you're consistent, don't sweat the output.
Un buen lugar para empezar sería su artículo en wikipedia. Para conocer los detalles a fondo hay un libro que cuenta su historia.
Yo más que nada conozco su historia y rol en SpaceX porque sigo el subreddit, ahí a lo largo de los meses y años vas viendo cómo Elon ha sido un factor clave en la toma de decisiones, tanto a gran escala como de detalles de ingeniería.
Sobre Tesla pasa algo similar, Elon ha tomado varias decisiones clave, y a lo largo de los años el progreso es increíble. Tesla está apuntando a una clase de self driving más avanzada y generalizable que otras empresas, y sin embargo está obteniendo resultados impresionantes, mucha gente los minimiza, supongo que porque no entienden lo difícil que es.
El patrón suele ser este: Elon propone una meta de 100 cuando el status qúo está en 10. Pasado el tiempo y con algunos retrasos, la compañía alcanza el 50. Lo sorprendente es que todo el mundo pensaba que más de 30 era imposible.
Yea as with most people its not just one thing its the whole package that leads to the eccentric strangeness.
If you want a fair an accurate view of Elon Musk I would recommend reading the biography by Ashlee Vance. It paints a pretty good picture of the man and what its like to work and live with him.
I was definitely a fan boy and had built up Elon as this amazing guy in my head before reading the book. After reading the book I realized he’s kind of a dick. I definitely don't think i would enjoy hanging out with him in real life. I realized thats alright though. I can like the stuff Elon is doing like trying to get to Mars and SpaceX while simultaneously knowing he's an asshole that kind of lives in his own world.
The Ashlee Vance biography if you are interested.
https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
There's a great biography of Elon Musk called ... looking for a link, here it is ... lon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future
Highly recommended. He's a fascinating guy, and the biographer pulls no punches.
Elon Musk is a chronic free market entrepreneur. He's the exact polar opposite of a communist.
If he praises China, I'm guessing it's because they make it easier for him to do business. Steve Jobs used to say the same very positive things about how easy it was to hire engineers and build factories in China.
I don't know much about Alex Jones except he's been an entertaining eccentric wild man whose ideas are All. Over. The. Place.
Trump is a complex topic that has been sculpted into such a volatile and explosive material that it's impossible to discuss in a public forum. Suffice it to say that most people's impressions of Trump and his accomplishments was defined by an overwhelmingly enemy press.
Here’s a very good read, or listen, that is very fair in calling out his negative side and his positive side. Highly, highly recommended.
Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future https://smile.amazon.com/dp/006230125X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_VV29YR4YE09B50DY165A
They nor I provided any sources, and so by your logic, their source is also “trust me bro.” By that same token, you said everything they said can be sources, then so can mine.
source.(Great read. I highly recommend. You might learn a thing or two.)
Here bro it’s a great read. You might learn a thing or two. It’ll be good for you to spend some time off the internet and in a book.
I read this one which is considered to be the biography of Elon right now. What did I say that was wrong?
Paul Dini wrote an autobiographical graphic novel that in part includes his creation of Harley for Batman the animated series. Really cool story.
Dark Night: A True Batman Story https://www.amazon.com/dp/1401241433/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_93A1SF3K5NPWJDPM09K9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Some of the achievements his ventures.
- mass manufacture of electric cars
- winning best car of the year awards several years in a row
- creating the safest cars in their respective weight classes
- building a worldwide network of electric charging stations
- first new company to build a new mass production vehicle facility in 100 years
- designing a novel microprocessors optimised for neural network computation
training a computer vision system and developing an autopilot control system
getting to orbit
flying, and landing large rockets
reusing large rockets
launching astronauts into orbit
docking with the space station
making and flying a full flow staged combustion rocket engine (first ever to fly)
currently they're trying to * revolutionize battery manufacturing technologies. * build a new car using hardened steel * build a giant fully reusable spaceship out of steel * "mass producing" large rockets
He has started several other smaller ventures which are remarkable
- trying to solve spinal cord issues with brain chip implants
- cheaper tunnel drilling to solve traffic problems
- integrating solar panels into roof structures
- grid level battery storage
A lot of these things are unprecedented.
Quick summary of his life:
Got a physics degree. Was going to do a PhD in supercapacitors but instead became lead
programmer for an internet startup. The company was sold for a lot of money.
He used all his money to start two companies which revolutionized their
respective industries. Both of these ventures were widely derided for many years
while they were in their infancy. Now the richest guy in the world.
https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
I think people have given you good areas to explore on this thread pertaining to your specific situation.
In my original post I was thinking about the young engineers who worked for Elon in the early days of SpaceX. This is a prime example of unique, high barrier to entry, high market demand skillsets:
"Some members of the Texas crew honed their skills to the point that they could build a test-worthy engine in three days. These same people were required to be adept at software. They’d pull an all-nighter building a turbo pump for the engine and then dig in the next night to retool a suite of applications used to control the engines. Hollman did this type of work all the time and was an all-star, but he was not alone among this group of young, nimble engineers who crossed disciplines out of necessity and the spirit of adventure. “
Excerpt from this wonderful book:
https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
Imagine how long it would take a single person to learn how to build rocket engines, be able to program them, design / 3D print parts, and do testing. How much do these people command in the open market? Spoiler: all those early SpaceX engineers are well deserved multi-millionaires now.
Now compare that to a generalist at a consulting firm ... what can these people actually do? What is their craft?
Ashlee Vance is more of a generalist, business and technology writer so he isn’t always up-to-the-minute on space news, but he has pretty good insight into newspace and literally wrote the book on Elon Musk
If you want an honest(imo) read on Elon Musk and his history I would highly, highly recommend the audiobook Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future
Or just search Amazon or Audible for the same title. Obv physical copies are available as well.
For credibility, there are some very unflattering write ups in the audiobook/book that aren’t impressive in the least about Elon. That’s why I recommend it as a listen or read. It paints the whole picture, both the bad and the good.
>Straubel was already a cto before joining tsla
Which only proves my point further. Mr. Straubel was at Rosen Motors, a hybrid vehicle company, in 2002, just 4 years after college (according to chapter 7 of Ashlee Vance's biography of Elon Musk). He was hired as CTO just 4 years out of undergrad.
A person's capabilities and judgment are what matters, not their age or seniority.
>The reason why Tesla is so high because people believe he can create it, not because he created it already. I love most projects he does, but that does not mean I cant be critical. He is so rich not because he made it with a real moneymaking process, but because he got so much money from investors. Getting investors in and get paid huge bonusses is his money-making process so far with Tesla.
You're really aren't making any sense. He has created many, many, world changing companies already. You clearly need to understand more about what he has achieved if you think it's all just hype. Please read his biography you will learn a lot and won't regret it. This man has been working his ass off since he was a child. He is not a salesman or hypeman. It's the real deal. Please educate yourself.
I agree with your points, but my brutal label comes not only from this but from everything else he's done. You ought to read his biography, its a pretty good representation :
https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/006230125X
Spoiler Alert: You Betcha.
At least, as the U.S. had previously defined it, in terms of a state that fails to meet the basic needs of its people, lawless and with a non-functioning gov't, etc. etc., ...In those terms, the U.S. has been a "Failed State" since several years ago when Noam published a book with that specific title, which I got and read a few pages in ever so often (which has been about as much as possible to stomach):
https://www.amazon.com/Failed-States-Assault-Democracy-American/dp/0805082840
Worse -- The book was an update on a previous one with was titled at that time, like in the '90's, called "Rogue States". ...So yeah, we've pretty much gone downhill for a while now.
We haven't abided by any kind of rules or laws for some time. The Trump Admin is actively ignoring 100+ congressional subpoenas, the Hatch Act and Constitution are violated on a daily basis, and right down to the USPS, the "administrative state" is being actively dismantled -- with prejudice, I might add, pun most definitely intended.
These are indeed dark times, and they will get much darker in the coming weeks.
The episode recommended this book for more information about Elon Musk.
Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future
Yes and No.
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Whilst I agree that it's always better to learn from other's mistakes than your own, it is also true, that too many opinions can be really discouraging and that's not what innovation needs.
Innovation comes from a sparkle and belief that impossible can become possible.
I'm at the process of reading the book of Elon Musk and he is known for making tonnes of mistakes, before arriving where he is now.
But if he listened to what everybody told him, none of his major achievements would not have happened.
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I guess the right thing is to take every advice with a quite large pinch of salt. Listen to the good advice of experienced people, but don't think that they know EVERYTHING better.
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Here's an article based on experts in <strong>corporate innovation</strong>, who talk about large companies looking for startups for the purpose of innovation.
Why do these experienced corporate sharks need to find a startup? Because of their experience holds them back from being disruptive, when it comes to ways of thinking.