You want a good reliable bikelock that doesn't have gimmicky garbage and is actually secure This is recommended by one of the best lock oriented youtuber out there the LockPickingLawyer
at the store, just put it in your shopping cart.
if it will be out of your sight for any length of time, the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit has been recommended here.
if you only need to prevent a regular pick-up-and-walk-off theft, a regular cable bike lock should be enough -- but anyone with a little time or tools can get through those rather quickly.
I had my moped stolen twice. Thankfully MPD recovered it both times. Since the second theft, i bought this (which is on sale for prime day) and haven't had an issue. You could upgrade to the top tier today if you want. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B001N888OS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_ZZ33GKCV505CCTYJ74WT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Overkill? Maybe. Comes with $5000 coverage? Yes. Heavy? Oh heck yes. But it's not a problem when you got a ebike. Love my lock and don't worry about the bike anywhere with this baby on it. I lock the frame and rear wheel with it. The front wheel has a locking threw axel
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B001SMUB7G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_MG71DTWWK354R7QP7FTF
Bike locks are fairly weak protection regardless, and an electric bike is an especially valuable target. If you get another one, consider a lock like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007EW31R6/ . It's still not going to stop someone with unlimited time, but it is tough enough to resist most hand tools and the lock itself is hard enough to resist most picks. Someone with a noisy grinder and lots of time could still get through it though. Downside is it's heavy and expensive.
If you have renter's insurance, or homeowners, call your insurance as you may be able to file a claim here. I know it seems weird, but these plans often have clauses for valuables even if not stolen from your home.
Also check out Good Karma bikes, in San Jose. They are a non profit and can probably hook you up with a refurbished bike free of charge, probably not an electric one but talk to them and see what's what.
To everyone else in the thread, please be careful of scams. I'm not claiming this is one, but don't send money to strangers on the internet with a story and a stock photo.
Strongly recommend against that lock. It's unbranded, overstock junk. The links are probably cheap round steel, maybe only a few mm thick. Bolt cutters will go straight through it no question.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as cheap security. To secure a bike in a shed I would expect to spend minimum $200/bike; I'd be using something like this. 14mm hardened chain, and 15mm shackle mini u-lock. No bolt cutter is getting through that. The small u-lock also makes it a bit harder to attack with a grinder. Chains, especially thick ones like this, are trickier to attack with a grinder too. Not impossible, but floppy chains are hard to grind since you need to tension the chain to properly cut it.
Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Chain 1415 & New York Disc Lock https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-1415-Chain/dp/B001SMUB7G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Fuggedaboutit+lock&qid=1624025284&sr=8-2
Obviously, if someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it, but this is definitely a deterrent.
Get the 5 foot 10mm Kryptonite Evolution 1016, and two motion alarms. Attach one to the chain and hide the other alarm on the bike. Turn them on whenever you're gonna be away the bike. The chain is approved by the lockpickinglawyer (best lock picking channel on youtube) and the alarms will serve 3 purposes: let everyone around you know the bike has an alarm when you leave it, scared the thief as soon as they touch the chain and will continue loudly ringing while they struggle to cut it, and loudly state the bike has an alarm anytime anyone slightly touches the bike. While it's impossible to 100% stop a determined thief, most will move to an easier target. I do deliveries with a hyperscorpion and have never had a problem with this setup. If you want to be extra safe, talk to your renters insurance to see if they'll insure the bike.
Hey there. Here’s some suggestions based on what people in NYC have posted or said in the past.
Chain- Kryptonite New York FAHGETTABOUDIT 1415 14mm Chain & New York Lock 15mm Disc Lock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001SMUB7G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_C0UxFbSSHFKDK
Alarm- Tchipie 110db Motorcycle Alarm Disc Brake Lock, Anti Theft Motorcycle Security Wheel Disk Lock for 7mm Brake Rotor - IP06 Waterproof, Heavy Duty, with 5 feet Reminder Cable, for Harley Davidson etc. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G9XDSRC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_A1UxFbH26B5TS
As for helmets, there’s just too many to list. You’ll have to find what works for you.
It really depends on how much your bike is worth, where you plan on locking it up, and how much you care about security. Any lock can be defeated, usually by multiple methods, so it's always a tradeoff. The Kryptonite "fahgeddaboudit" lock is basically the gold standard for bike lock security, though you can see it's huge, massive, and very expensive. I use a standard Sunlite, which is radically cheaper, but also less secure-- I bring my bike indoors whenever possible, and only lock it in places where it's highly visible and unlikely to be, e.g., attached with an angle grinder shootings sparks everywhere and making noise.
> Lastly this Abus seems like a beast, at £69 its out of my price range but is this doubly better than say two Master Locks?
This is more of a theory than anything, but I would try not to have two locks of the exact same type, and certainly not of the same brand. If there is some way to easily bypass or force the lock that the thief knows, then they just need to do the same thing twice.
I would also question why £69 should be out of your price range when it's protecting something that's worth £300 to you? Remember that a good lock should last you, if you change bikes in the future you'll probably end up keeping the same locks, so long as no-one took an angle grinder to the in the meantime of course.
The Abus seems to me to be the best lock on the market in terms of offering a high level of security while remaining reasonably portable. I also own a Kyrptonite Chain lock:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-Evolution-3500319-Bicycle-Integrated/dp/B006QN0MIU/
Which has the downside of being heavier and a bit fiddlier to lock up in some circumstances. It is cheaper however.
For short stops somewhere, particularly when you can keep the bike in your sight, have you considered rear wheel locks? Sometimes also called frame locks, these can be really cheap and can work well in low risk situations, or as a secondary lock. You can also get some models which also support a plug-in chain for higher risk situations where you also want to secure the frame to a fixed object. Not all bike frames support this kind of lock though.
High end ebike rider here.
My advice is don't. Don't leave it anywhere, ebike are high value target to bike thieves. A battery angle grinder can cut any lock in seconds and they will do it in broad daylight.
If you ABSOLUTELY have to try and lock it up within eyesight and keep the time as short as possible. I use this:
Pretty HD chain but with an ebike that doesn't really matter.
I used to work at a bike shop. Cable lock is about 3 seconds (bolt cutter, then cable cutter). U lock is about 60-200 seconds with a hacksaw or 30-45 seconds with a power tool. The most effective lock is a hardened chain with twisted links like this (this one doesn't have twisted links, but the angled links are also very good): https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-1415-Chain/dp/B001SMUB7G -- at this point the best method is to cut or undo the rack and you'd have to use a torch to cut the lock later.
Basically there's no way to prevent bike/vehicle theft if your item is the most valuable one on the rack and the thief has a full minute.
Oh, I didn't mean that the lock is easily picked. I meant it's easily broken, well, not "easily" just not as hard to break as would be preferable (especially at their price point).
I remember several amazon reviews and some on sporting good/cycling supply stores(I forget exactly what sites, I was browsing a LOT of sites looking at a lot of products), of people mentioning the lock failing under torsion/smashing. and I remember seeing a youtube video showing it happen.
That, and several sites with ratings/comparisons on locks tended to rate the tigr at equal or slightly lower security then good U-locks. (Product comparison articles that I found doing general research, not by directly searching tigr).
I went with the "New York Noose" lock, because I like the extra options the style of chain offers.
Where is it being stolen from? Balcony? Back yard? Shed?
Invest in a good lock and have a secure spot to mount it to.
One of the best locks on the market; Kryptonite Evolution Series 4 Chain Lock
Kryptonite chain is $50 off on amazon right now! https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-1415-Chain/dp/B001SMUB7G/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3RXKICY9U8K5H&dchild=1&keywords=kryptonite+bike+lock&qid=1593383975&sprefix=krypto%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-7
and the other 2 are this one: https://www.amazon.com/Abus-U-Lock-Granit-X-Plus-Black/dp/B00GCB287O/ref=sr_1_16?crid=3G3ATU0RDHUPF&dchild=1&keywords=abus+u+lock&qid=1593384034&sprefix=abus+u%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-16
It's called the "Keeper 785" (amazon link). I definitely prefer a chain to a u-lock around the city since it gives more flexibility on lockup locations.
I use the Kryptonite New York Noose 1275 to lock up my Juiced CrossCurrent S. The lock is quite heavy but manageable. And it is a bit on the short side but long enough to get the job done. I also got the Kryptonite Anti-Theft Protection Offer. It cost $25 for 5 years of bike theft insurance.
I also got the GPS option when I bought the bike. It’s not super accurate but is generally good enough so that I’ll get a warning if the bike moves out of the geofence and can give a rough idea on where the bike is located
While writing this it just dawned on me that I have not received the geofence alert in a very long time. I checked and found that the GPS has not updated its location in months!! I need to figure out what is going on. I see some posts out there that the Trackimo devices were based on 2G mobile equipment which the carriers have apparently turned off. And it seems Juiced may be helping folks with that. I’m very glad you posted or I could have found myself in a position where the bike was stolen and the GPS didn’t work. Assuming the 2G thing is correct, I’m a bit disappointed that Juiced did not notify me.
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I bought this one in spite of not being able to afford it. It is now shorn in two, sitting on my desk.
Haven't bought a lock that nice since, further research concluded that it just wasn't worth it unless it was actually difficult to cut. From what I understand, the only difference the NYlocks make is that they take slightly longer to cut, which can matter in a few cases, but not enough. I stick to the 60-80 dollar tier of ulock these days.
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My property isn't the problem, the last few thefts happened during errands, not overnight from home. The last few also happened within 30 minutes of leaving the bike, in each case I was stopping to get to-go food or pick up a prescription.
The best lock is a good friend. They watch your bike as you buy the beers to bring back outside to share. Then swap places at the next brewery.
Best thing is you get to ride with a friend and enjoy beers while admiring your bike!
When im doing this type of thing alone I use a chain lock (https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Keeper-Integrated-Bicycle-33-5-Inch/dp/B005YPK7V8/ref=asc_df_B005YPK7V8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198084925599&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2943401122922715321&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hv...) and only leave my bike locked when I know I'll be back in under 5 minutes or have eyes on it while I'm gone.
Don't trust me. Wirecutter likes this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JPS200/?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=AwEAAAAAAAAAAOls. Outdoorgearlab likes it, too. Alternatively, you can get the u-lock version, which gets ranked very highly as well.
My opinion: Subjectively, if you get two locks, that's a lot more of a deterrent, because thieves really don't want to have to fight two locks..and yes, while living in DC and NY, I have spoken with more than one bike thief. They want a quick steal, not a project.
Also, I would think going through the wheel itself would be much better than the handle. I am not sure a u lock on a handle would deter anyone other than a casual thief - just cut through the handle. That would be way, way faster than cutting through the lock.
Although I am sure there is a market for stolen EUCs, I would think that market would be much smaller than that for stolen bikes (which really don't sell for much money anyway). Just like it is harder to sell a stolen Ferrari than a Civic, I would think the same would apply to an EUC. Nonetheless, if the neighborhood isn't that bad, I find it hard to imagine some yahoo would drive up with a grinder, saw through your FAHGETTABOUDIT bike lock in front of the gym door (which is where it should be locked up) with folks going in and out on a regular, and lob it into the trunk. If so, you better look out for your catalytic converter, too.
Short answer is no there is no way to ensure your wheels safety unless you or someone you trust is always watching it id say appeal to your gym to see if you can and if not then go to another gym that will let you if neither of those are realistic options then the next best thing is to get https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Evolution-Integrated-Chain-Bicycle/dp/B006QN0MI0/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=399KPN7DC5OI7&keywords=kryptonite+chain+lock&qid=1667359114&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0Ljk1IiwicXNhIjoiNC44MSIsInFzcCI6IjQuNTEifQ%3D%3D&spre... and https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Anti-Theft-Vibration-Motorcycle-Waterproof/dp/B0734QN8KR/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=VBTTBR3J8I5S&keywords=motion+sensor+bike+alarm&qid=1667359141&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjEyIiwicXNhIjoiMi4zNCIsInFzcCI6IjEuODgifQ%3D%3D&... do not waste your time or $ on wire locks, solid bar locks or combination locks they are significantly easier to compromise via either brute force or picking trust me its not worth losing your several thousand dollar toy forever over a cheap lock other than using the items i linked id recommend not hiding your wheel out of sight have it out and in the open where plenty of ppl can see it the higher traffic area the better risk of being seen or caught is the best deterrent for thieves
If people actually listened to lockpicking lawyer, they would never buy this garbage. Get a proper heavy chain lock (hard to saw). Lock picking lawyers suggestion: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006QN0MIU?tag=lockjudge-21&keywords=Kryptonite%20Evolution%20Series%204%201090&geniuslink=true
Definitely bring your bike in, if you can, but in general - this is the bike lock to have, especially if you're in a high bike theft area.
Ride trashy bikes around town so if they get stolen you're not out much. For your nice bike buy an equally nice lock. I use this one and always lock it as publicly as I can.
A chain lock is actually more secure than most U-Locks. A U-Lock being rigid makes it easier to use tools against.
https://www.amazon.ca/Kryptonite-Evolution-Integrated-Chain-Bicycle/dp/B006QN0MI0?th=1&psc=1
I figure if this is good enough for lock picking lawyer it's good enough for me.