Read Marketing Democracy. Nothing changed after Pinochet. The same economic and social structures remained, the poor (base of the left) are still marginalized and displaced from influence, but instead of Pinochet's terror the state now use statistics and hurdles like status, education and class-distrust to keep the neo-liberal ideology in power.
The Jakarta Method: Washington’s Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World by Vincent Bevins > In 1965, the U.S. government helped the Indonesian military kill approximately one million innocent civilians. This was one of the most important turning points of the twentieth century, eliminating the largest communist party outside China and the Soviet Union and inspiring copycat terror programs in faraway countries like Brazil and Chile. But these events remain widely overlooked, precisely because the CIA’s secret interventions were so successful.
>In this bold and comprehensive new history, Vincent Bevins builds on his incisive reporting for the Washington Post, using recently declassified documents, archival research and eye-witness testimony collected across twelve countries to reveal a shocking legacy that spans the globe. For decades, it’s been believed that parts of the developing world passed peacefully into the U.S.-led capitalist system. The Jakarta Method demonstrates that the brutal extermination of unarmed leftists was a fundamental part of Washington’s final triumph in the Cold War.
If anyone wants a more specific case study, The Jakarta Method, by Vincent Bevins is a really good (and horrifying) historical account on the US/CIA's intervention in the affairs of another nation.
Alive: the story of a plane crash in the Andes, where the survivors had to resort to eating each other. This is one of the greatest books, and stories of survival you will ever read.
https://www.amazon.com/Alive-Survivors-Piers-Paul-Read/dp/038000321X
We literally have committed more genocide and industrialized murder in the 20th century than anyone else in the world previously.
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
This person seems more interested in insulting you than having a conversation, but these sentiments don't come from nowhere. I'd encourage you to familiarize yourself with the history of the agency if you are seriously interested in it.
There's a new book out called The Jakarta Method that details some of the CIA's activities during the Cold War that I'd recommend. It's hard to get more recent histories due to document classification, but it will give you a perspective that will help explain why people feel so strongly about this issue.
Don't read this
Or anything else about the history of Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia.
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The CIA never murdered leftists...
Hm, the Jakarta method, rhe example I gave is awesome. he blends personal accounts with the history of the CIAs strategy of violent meddling specifically in Indonesia with US strategy globally like in a way that reads like good, very sad literature
The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World
I would also recommend anyone looking for a more detailed source material read The Jakarta Method (written by the author of that article). It's sources are quite detailed and extensive, and include how this methodology influenced CIA operations in numerous other countries.
have you heard of the cold war? backing horrible rightwing groups was US foreign policy for decades.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
Oh no... Turns out White and Jews can be terrorists too :( this might be the biggest reveal the brainwashed west has to go through.
Peter Kornbluh's The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability is a fantastic account of Pinochet's rise and fall.
Again, America is worse on every front, all it takes really is *an* attempt at an unbiased appraisal of world history and you'll see as much.
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
Iran, Afghanistan, Irak(2x), Yemen, Libyen, Indonesien, wahrscheinlich hab ich noch welche vergessen.
Empfehle zu dem Thema:
The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World https://www.amazon.de/dp/1541724003/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_i_7YX87Q3BDV9YYSGBY3VD
Saw in another, someone is recommending this book.
The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1541724003/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_GBYKVTNKJA289D9P16RH
I assume you know all the death and suffering is responsible for in Indonesia ? I suggest you read this misterrrrr
Manufacturing Consent is great for conveying the kind of compounding self-selection of state and media apparatus. It's useful to have a conception of problems as systemic and reoccurring, and not just the result of bad actors.
Oh, The Jakarta Method also seems like a very good text. I haven't read it yet, but by all accounts it's a great overview of the disgusting anti-communist networks that were nourished by the US following WW2, and of the repeated mass murder that was used to enforce the impoverishment of the global south.
The "neo-liberal centrism" is equally authoritarian but in softer methods. Instead of terrorizing the Santiago's Población (ghettos) with police and violence they instead silence them by portraying them as dumb, anti-democratic and radical. They also try to silence them by making them internalize discourses that the new regime was good for them.
It is the same marginalization and political powerlessness.
Have you heard of the Cold War? There was a global assault on anything resembling the left. Have you heard of the Indonesian genocide, facilitated and coordinated by the US and UK? Have you heard of the death squads in El Salvador and Nicaragua exterminated entire villages and bayoneting babies? Have you heard of Gladio? Have you heard of the Vietnam War? Laos? Cambodia? Tens of millions killed in SE Asia alone.
The only communist regimes that survived were the ones that were authoritarian, because they were all under constant assault by global capital. If they were democratically elected, they were assassinated or overthrown in a coup. Even non-communists weren't spared. Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Iran, Congo, Greece, Italy, the list is endless. All because of the big bad Russian boogeyman. Things haven't changed much.
To put it briefly: Allende died, Castro survived.
Read The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins to get a better idea of what the "democratic" countries did to secure their power.
He was a very busy man when it came to dealing with Marxists.
Edit: Marxists in the general sense, because that's was the plan all along since the beginnings of the Cold War, eliminate left wing power to insure global hegemony.
The book "The Jakarta Method" goes into detail and is a very nice overview of this often overlooked part of the cold war.
>The Jakarta Method makes clear some basic points that popular conceptions of history get wrong. The Cold War was not won, capitalism was not spread, the U.S. sphere of influence was not enlarged just by example or even by Hollywood promotion of something desirable, but also significantly by murdering masses of men, women, and children with dark skin in poor countries without getting U.S. troops killed which might have caused someone to start caring. The secretive, cynical CIA and alphabet soup of unaccountable agencies accomplished almost nothing over the years through spying and snooping — in fact those efforts were almost always counterproductive on their own terms.
>The tools that overthrew governments and imposed corporate policies and sucked out profits and raw materials and cheap labor were not just propaganda tools and not just the carrots of aid to brutal dictators, but also, perhaps first and foremost: the machete, the rope, the gun, the bomb, and the electric wire.
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
The Shining Path of Peru is pretty terrifying too. Heres a video on it. The Peruvian communist party goes off the rails.
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
This is a great book on Chilean history too, came out this year and is a number one best seller in Chilean History.
I read this book recently
https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400
And it has been really good in explaining why many communist nations collapsed, or had to get more radical to survive during the Cold War, from Pinochet to Pol Pot and many other rises and falls of leaders.
It is very enlightening and only $20.
He explains it a lot better than I could, and theres even some recently uncovered things in there.
>The Jakarta Method makes clear some basic points that popular conceptions of history get wrong. The Cold War was not won, capitalism was not spread, the U.S. sphere of influence was not enlarged just by example or even by Hollywood promotion of something desirable, but also significantly by murdering masses of men, women, and children with dark skin in poor countries without getting U.S. troops killed which might have caused someone to start caring. The secretive, cynical CIA and alphabet soup of unaccountable agencies accomplished almost nothing over the years through spying and snooping — in fact those efforts were almost always counterproductive on their own terms. The tools that overthrew governments and imposed corporate policies and sucked out profits and raw materials and cheap labor were not just propaganda tools and not just the carrots of aid to brutal dictators, but also, perhaps first and foremost: the machete, the rope, the gun, the bomb, and the electric wire.
> I have highly suspicion that the coup staged by Soeharto backed by Western countries
No need for suspicions, it's well documented that Washington was pulling the strings. In fact, there's a recent book on the matter that's just come out, it's called The Jakarta Method.
It argues that only the facade was changed when Pinochet fell. All the same social, economic and political dynamics remain just under new "softer" means of keeping the poor down. It even predicted the recent riots by almost a decade
Really having my eyes opened by The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins right now if anybody is looking for recommendations.
The essence of communism isn’t evil. Trying to force any ideology on a population is what’s evil. If society gradually arrives at something we can describe as communist, meaning mutually classless and without a state, that would be fine.
The Jakarta Method: Washington’s Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World > The hidden story of the wanton slaughter —in Indonesia, Latin America, and around the world ——acked by the United States.
>In 1965, the U.S. government helped the Indonesian military kill approximately one million innocent civilians. This was one of the most important turning points of the twentieth century, eliminating the largest communist party outside China and the Soviet Union and inspiring copycat terror programs in faraway countries like Brazil and Chile. But these events remain widely overlooked, precisely because the CIA’s’secret interventions were so successful.
>In this bold and comprehensive new history, Vincent Bevins builds on his incisive reporting for the Washington Post, using recently declassified documents, archival research and eye-witness testimony collected across twelve countries to reveal a shocking legacy that spans the globe. For decades, it’s’been believed that parts of the developing world passed peacefully into the U.S.-led capitalist system. The Jakarta Method demonstrates that the brutal extermination of unarmed leftists was a fundamental part of Washington’s final triumph in the Cold War.
It's a tricky subject and a lot of Very Serious People have written studies about what a boon it has been to the economy and populace of Chile, but most of those people are advocates of the neoliberal socio-economic model so they tend to see and say things that support that narrative.
I'd say if you really want to dive into this subject, you should start with the book The Pinochet File by Peter Kornbluh/the National Security Archive. It uses a wealth of declassified US intelligence and state department documents to examine the history of Pinochet's rise to power and his government around that time. While it doesn't directly address privatization of the country's social security system, it gives a great look at the political environment and conditions in which it happened and, in my opinion at least, is essential reading to parsing any sort of later analysis of the policy shift.
> Are you advocating a US engineered coup in Venezuela?
Technically it would be a counter-coup since the Venezuelan Executive already overthrew the legislative and judicial branches.
Edit: blaming the US for the Chilean coup is like blaming the weatherman for the rain. How many coup attempts were there in Chile prior to the one that succeeded against Allende?
I highly recommend <em>The Breakdown of Democratic Regimes: Chile</em> by Arturo Valenzuela (and the rest of the Breakdown series edited by Linz and Stepan) if you're interested in the tumultuousness in Chilean politics leading up to the successful coup against Allende.
It's non-fiction, but Deep Down Dark is riveting; better than most adventure novels.