I use the Timeless brand. I really like it. I buy mine from amazon, but if you buy it straight from Timeless I read it is much fresher.
Timeless Skin Care 20% Vitamin C Plus E Ferulic Acid Serum, 1 oz.
I also use their squalane oil and Matrixyl.
My routine is pretty simple.
AM & PM:
- wash with Neutrogena naturals purifying facial cleanser
- apply vitamin c serum (I’m on mobile so I’ll paste the link at the end)
- apply Neutrogena visibly even daily moisturizer
- If my skin is looking a little dull I might exfoliate with generic Walmart brand apricot face scrub
Vitamin C serum:
Neutrogena Hydroboost Gel Cream
Hado Labo Plumping Gel Cream (Love this one! https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Tokyo-Plumping-Cream/dp/B00I4BUBN8)
It didn't break me out but made my face beat red the next day. The niacinamide is at a high percentage in TO niacinamide. I got into diy and niacinamide was on my list of things to make and read a good study about niacinamide showing great results at 4% when its formulated with 2% NAG. It's suggested use is between 2-5%. I didn't use any vitamin C when using it either, because it can turn niacinamide into niacin (I think). My skin handled the serum I made just fine and it actually helped with inflammation.
If you decide to try it from TO, it's cheap. But there are a lot of other niacinamide products out there with a lower percentage. Cerave has a moisturizer with niacinamide and ceramides, and hyaluronic acid. It's in my cart, I definitely want to try it. CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion PM | 3 Ounce | Ultra Lightweight, Night Face Moisturizer | Fragrance Free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HoWIDb8ZF0QSC
A month ago I was reading about niacinamide and azelaic acid because people seem to have good results with one or the other, or both. I have cystic acne and have been looking for something to help. I have read that niacinamide increases keratinocytes, and azelaic acid decreases the production of keratin. I made a post about it, but nobody ever had an answer. I get nodules and cysts on my jawline and neck, so I don't put as much niacinamide in that area. But I wish I knew more about this because so many people do use niacinamide and if it makes acne worse, that's not good.
It’s on sale on amazon too, comes out cheaper than ulta if you clip the 20% coupon to your cart
Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, 1.7 Fl. Oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NR1YQHM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XvzgAb0AHVHH4
Sorry, on mobile.
Vanicream Skin Cream With Pump Dispenser,16 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NWGCZ2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_FmMsAbD58RBDP
Great stuff! No perfumes and it’s quite hydrating. I wash my face, apply jojoba oil, and last the Vanicream. I have a few pimplies occasionally and I have combination skin so I usually only need two applications during the winter as long as I work it with some jojoba oil. Target will have this too and will likely be a little cheaper in store than amazon.
Elta MD doesn't use avobenzone and is a great sunscreen! Not sure if the specific one I linked is water resistant, but I know they make many that are!
Rave: Neutrogena Hydro Boost gel.
I’ve been using Clinique’s Dramatically Different moisturizing gel for about a year now and I’ve had absolutely no complaints. I couldn’t make it to Ulta/Sephora before my moisturizer ran out, so I decided to make due with what I could find at Target.
Oh. My. Goodness. I know I didn’t expect much, but I’m so happy with this moisturizer. I have extremely oily, acne prone skin. Since using this moisturizer, I haven’t been oily or shiny midday like I usually am. I stay matte throughout the day. The product itself is cooling, smells great and feels dry almost immediately.
I even started this on my week off of birth control, and usually that’s a bad skin week for me. No breakouts! I’m thrilled.
Not OP but I find them on Amazon HERE
Your skin needs moisture. The extra oil it's producing is often times a sign of dehydrated skin.
What I recommend is a good lotion. Maybe a toner, too. And a face wash.
Cerave hydrating face wash
Hada Labo gokujyn lotion (this is the toner) and can be found on amazon very cheaply. It's a very moisturizing product and is highly recommended by the /r/asianbeauty sub. Edit: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml)
And my favorite lotion is Cerave lotion. However, if you choose not to go with that, just make sure that dimithicone, cyclomethicone or cyclopentasiloxane are somewhere in the ingredients, preferably near the first few ingredients listed. Also try Cetaphil lotion.
You wash, tone, lotion. You can repeat this day and night.
I do recommend a sunscreen, but at fifty, you might be less inclined and there are not any actives in this routine. If you're feeling spendy, you can opt for the Cerave AM lotion, which has some spf in it.
Vaseline is also good if the lotion doesn't seem like enough. Just put a thin layer on at night.
Idk your hygiene routine, but it might also help to wipe your CPAC mask down with alcohol every couple of days or every day. Even if you never have done so in the past, skin can change and by the sound of it, seems like yours has.
My skin is dry as fuck too. This is the lotion that saved my skin. Even when I was sick from colds and rubbing my nose skin raw from blowing my nose often this lotion kept it healed. Now I use a different brand called malezia but I find it a little lighter. I would personally get this, put a layer on my skin after its freahly washed. Wait for it to dry. Put another layer on. Wait for it to dry. Then top with a thin layer of vaseline.
It honestly sounds like you could have dehydrated skin and you should check out /r/skincareaddiction and /r/asianbeauty
Asian beauty was extremely helpful to me as I have almost completely restored my skin and it is so much better, plumper and brighter. I find that there are great, drugstore friendly priced products that you can use with an AB skincare routine, although the sometimes it might be harder to get products as quick, as most ship from Asian countries. One thing that has helped me is using a hyaluronic serum before I use a hyaluronic face mask. I use these twice a day (when I have the time, which is almost daily). I also use the hyaluronic serum before my mask, let it sink in for a couple minutes, put the face mask on and keep it on until it starts drying out (about 45 min, which seems long but I prioritize it). I then take the mask off and let it all soak into my skin for a couple mins, use the hyaluronic serum again, let it soak in and then out my moisturizer on. I've only been doing this for the past month and the intense change in my skin is absolutely ridiculous. These are the two products I use. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQUGXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_ and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IK8E6CC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_1Pq3wbJQ8VPVV
If you're worried about the price, you can buy bundles of sheet masks on Amazon for low prices.
They are, but I've found that the American retailers of Hada Labo charge a lot more than it costs to get the Japanese version from, well, basically anywhere.
Case in point, Ulta's Hada Labo Hydrator is $9 when it's half off for 1.7 fluid ounces of product.
Amazon Prime has the Hada Labo Gokujyun Moist for a little under $12 for 5.7 ounces of product.
CVS ran a similar 30% deal a week ago. I got excited and stocked up on things, then realized Amazon had the same items for much less than the CVS sale price. Example below.
Cerave PM at CVS (before 30% discount)
same product on Amazon
If you're not too picky about cosmetic elegance, Vanicream sells their 16oz moisturizing cream in tubs with a pump. For the amount, it's about $13-$14 depending on where you shop.
I’ve asked my dermatologist about this.
I finish washing my face and don’t entirely dry with a towel. I let my face be damp but not dripping, and then put moisturizer on.
I use Hada Labo plumping gel moisturizer. It is sd safe and I am so glad I found it recommended by another guy with sebderm.
After moisturizer, let it be for a minute. Then put the hydrocortisone (or other steroid.) My dr said it’s ok to just put it on top of the moisturizer and mix it.
(Try to use the steroid for only one week and then take a break. You can also backpedal slowly. So after a flare up do 2x a day for a few days, then once a day, then every other day. I think this makes it easier for your skin to adjust. My dr said I have to do one week on, one week off. Don’t use it every single day or there can be bad consequences)
I even use moisturizer, then hydrocortisone, then ketoconazole which is antifungal. You can wait 3 min in between each so it absorbs better.
I’ve had this for two years on my face, around my mouth, nose, laugh lines, and chin.
Any questions? Just ask. Hope you feel better.
I've fallen into an Asian Skincare hole lately, and absolutely LOVE Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Lotion Moist as a moisturizer for oily skin. It's super lightweight, makes my skin so bouncy and hydrated, is cheap and you can get it with fast shipping from Amazon.
I've been using CeraVe PM lotion, and that works well for me. It's not like, OMG AMAZING, but it keeps me moisturized without being greasy/oily, and it doesn't break me out. (PSA: this stuff is apparently like 80% off the normal price right now on Amazon if you get it in a Prime Pantry box.)
I tried the Hada Labo gel cream before the CeraVe. I liked it too, but it left me feeling a little bit ... stickier? So now I've just been using it for my hands and neck.
Also, if you haven't already, you should definitely check out r/skincareaddiction. There's tons of great product recommendations and helpful people over there!
I see "crows feet" and I think "dehydrated". So.
1) Replace your exfoliant with CeraVe Hydrating facial cleanser. It's not going to feel like your face is clean for the first like week to two weeks because you're probably used to the very squeaky clean (stripped) feeling. But focus on how your skin feels about two minutes after you pat it dry - that clean-but-not-desert feeling is delightful.
2) Add a purely hydrating layer. Depending on what type of environment you're in, that might be Hada Labo lotion or a serum. If you're in a dryer area, you probably want a glycerine-based serum or lotion rather than a hyaluronic acid based one, as HA can actually draw water from your skin if there isn't enough in the air.
3) Consider a thicker night cream like CeraVe in the tub, Jason Gentle Basics night cream, or (again depending on your area) a thin layer of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) to help your skin keep the moisture in it. If you're in central California or the south - somewhere with humid air - putting your hydrating layer on, sitting for a minute or two, then finishing with Vaseline might be enough. If you're in Tucson, you're probably going to want something like the CeraVe in the tub or the Jason to add additional layers of hydration to your skin.
4) As /u/glittercrotch said, r/asianbeauty is a great resource. There are lots of skincare companies in various Asian countries that have affordable, high quality products that you can get on Amazon. The Hada Labo lotion is one, and you might check out something like the Hada Labo Skin Plumping Gel-Cream for your thicker cream step.
Amazon usually has good sellers.
Hada Labo Lotion: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/
I've bought both and as far as I can tell, they're legit!
This Timeless vitamin c serum ($15-$24, price fluctuates) is an almost exact dupe for more expensive ones (Paula's Choice is $48, etc.).
Essential oils can always be bought cheap as fuck in bulk. On Amazon there are a few brands of argan oil for around $3.25/oz, as opposed to Josie Maran which is literally the exact same thing for $28.25/oz.
Always stay on the lookout. If something is expensive as fuck, chances are there is something with the same or similar ingredients for cheaper, especially things with very few ingredients like vitamin C serums or oils. Personally all of my skincare products (makeup remover, daily AHA, weekly AHA, vitamin C, serum, moisturizer, oil) are all under $25. I don't think I would spend more than $50 on a skincare product. That shit would either have to last forever or be liquid skin perfection in a bottle.
Timeless Vitamin C Serum - https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Vitamin-Ferulic-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1470623581&sr=1-1&keywords=timeless+c+serum
(This serum works better than the Paula's Choice serum, according to a website I follow that tested them against each other: http://www.hotandflashy50.com/vitamin-c-serum-comparison-timeless-paulas-choice-css/)
I can't speak for any other guy, but the one in my life has used the Aveeno Positively Radiant Moisturizer SPF 30 for years and likes it because it is not shiny. Otherwise, a sunscreen that is mineral-based will provide longer lasting sun protection. Unless you are in the sun for more than 2 hours a day, you should be able to get through the workday without reapplying a regular sunscreen. If you wanted to be extra careful, using one with zinc in it would give you longer-lasting protection. CeraVe AM is one that's easy to find. They can look a little whitish on the skin, though, so a lot of people don't like them. (I wear EltaMD UV Clear or EltaMD UV Daily -- they are zinc based, a little pricier than drugstore but I like how they wear and they dry basically clear.) You can find them on Amazon, too.
Since you asked about "piling" stuff -- basically, apply things in order of thickness/heaviness, from most watery to thickest texture. Otherwise, lighter-weight products will get blocked from absorbing by heavier ones. So serums go first, then moisturizers. Apply serums everywhere on your face that you would apply moisturizer. You only need a few drops of serum -- rub it around, basically everywhere but eyelids. Then apply the moisturizer all over, too.
If you are using a separate sunscreen, the sunscreen should always be the LAST skincare applied, since other stuff might remove it or mess with it. But that's pretty involved. You can find a moisturizer with sunscreen easily, so no need to complicate things with a separate sunscreen step.
Tbh I don't think it's the percentage of hyaluronic acid that makes the Gokujyun lotion so great, but the molecular weight of it. The lotion uses a low molecular weight of HA which is more bioavailable, i.e. it will sink deeper into your skin rather than just sitting on top. The Gokujyun lotion actually uses 5 different types of HA with different molecular weights which, in theory, can hang onto moisture in varying levels of your skin. HA is also only effective in skincare products up to a certain concentration, so trying to maximize the amount of HA you get per dollar spent is probably going to be a waste of time at a certain point.
As far as cost is concerned, I got mine on Amazon for about $10. I'm really pleased with it so far and don't think I am missing out on any HA goodness because it's only $10.
Second all of this. I started using a Vitamin C serum at this age and several years later am grateful I started when I did. There are some inexpensive, highly rated products on Amazon for around $20.
I use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BI56G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
and am very happy with it. HTH!
Agree with this person ^ In my experience, having dealt with bad hand eczema, Vanicream Moisturizing Cream (has the pump) is like the tank of moisturizers for those with sensitive skin. And for about $15, you get 16oz of product.
Hello, I'm trying to find the correct ingredients list for this product .The Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist to be precise(according to amazon) and I found a cosdna ingredients thingy that has a pretty similar name, is this the correct ingredients list?
This one comes very highly regarded by rosacea support forums and has many good reviews on amazon. It's on my list to buy once I'm out of what I'm currently using.
For skincare, I am currently using the Redness Solutions line from Clinique. I find it has helped with the redness and also general inflammation in my skin. I have subtype 2, with a cobblestone like texture in my temples and tiny pustules around my cheeks and nose. I have been using the Clinique for about a month and it has helped so, so much. I also use Finacea cream and that has worked wonders for me also. I'm not exactly 100% redness and bump free, but I've made great progress and will continue to use my regime and recommend it to anyone with Rosacea who hasn't tried it yet.
Best of luck.
Actually no, the most common one people use is less than $10 on Amazon :)
edit: the link in my comment is actually for a pack of 2, if you only want 1 it's even cheaper.
Sold by Amazon
Sold by another seller (potentially fake)
Have you ordering it from Amazon?
Hello everyone! I was in the market for a lightweight gel type moisturizer as summer approaches. Heard lots of good things about the Mizon Snail Gel Recovery Gel Cream in the pink tube. Peach & Lily is sold out of it at the moment - does anyone know if this seller on Amazon is legitimate or has had experience with them? Their store is called "Mod My Beauty". Their price for a two pack is so reasonable it makes me raise an eyebrow but I am new to the AB game.
Thank you all for any insight!
Looks like it's just out of stock edit: nevermind this is the lightweight version. I'm having a hard time finding it on Amazon too. The one I found was $34, I bet they're just low on stock right now.
It's also available from dermstore. I'm sure your friend could find it from a CVS, Walgreens, or Target too.
Yay! I’m glad to hear that.
I use Cerave! But when my skin was super dry/dehydrated I started also using Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid lotion and it saved my skin and made it more normal than dry. If you’re interested, you can buy it on Amazon and should use it after you cleanse while your face is still a little wet. Then let it soak in - no rinsing required! Follow with moisturizer. On amazon here: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8K4YBb80CSH1B
this is a "hydrating lotion" in asian beauty but its used like a western toner. My skin loves it! Its unscented and helps draw in moisture.
I think as long as you don’t buy it from the “other sellers” list, it’s fine! I’ve bought this one a few times: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8W6QDFYRWVMP3ESZ9TZG
And it’s always the real thing!
>Hado Labo's gel creme
I always hear about Hada Labo but was always intimidated by how much products they have! Are you talking about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Tokyo-Plumping-Cream/dp/B00I4BUBN8 if so- I'd love to research about it!
I use a Japanese (Rohto hadalabo gokujun hyaluronic acid lotion is Japanese, right? I should know where my products come from...) product, but you may be able to find it in Seoul. Or you can look for a similar product. The Hyaluronic acid is the ingredient you'd want to look for. It's very hydrating. I use it before a heavy moisturinf cream (cetaphil in the tub) and it helps my very dry, dehydration-prone skin a lot.
Amazon link so you can compare to local stuff, if you can see the link:
Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist 5.7floz/170ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_NPJnub06NJ807
Linked to the Amazon UK one!
This is the one I'd recommend as you have oily skin. There is an orange bottle which is the premium version for extra hydration. But given it's coming up to summer as well I think you're better off starting with the original.
Is this the Hada Labo product that everyone talks about on here?
or is it this one?
I've only ordered electronics, books, etc from Amazon, never a face product. It's legit and safe? Do you guys order it from somewhere else?
And even though it's a toner, can I substitute it as a moisturizer since my skin doesn't have any issues with dryness?
Not AB (sorry) but I'm getting ready to buy the EltaMD UV Clear (amazon) because it has no alcohol and 5% niacinamide.
(SCA discussion of PA rating of UV Clear)
I'm interested in buying the Hadalabo lotion but there are two different versions being offered on Amazon:
The older version (more expensive)
The newer version
Is there any benefit in buying the older version?
I'm seconding the recommendation for the Hada Labo lotion as a thin layer underneath another moisturiser. That stuff is designed to suck water into the skin and holy moly does it work for dry, flaky nose patches! I got mine on Amazon but I think it might be in Target in the states.
I recently bought this off of amazon. Eltamd UV Clear SPF 46, 48-Gram 1.7 oz. . It broke me out immediately. Do not recommend personally but I know it's a highly rated sunscreen
It's $10 for two bottles on Amazon right now with free one day shipping if you have prime. Hoping I'll have more luck by cutting back on the acids and trying this out!
Some fairly inexpensive but widely raved about products you could try (No affiliate link or anything)
Lol. I'm just kidding. I've actually never heard of that! There's a bunch of reviews on Amazon though! Here's a pretty good review of it.
Amazon carries lots of Hada Labo. Drugstore.com carries some too.
For Hyaluronic Acid this toner is great, though often it's on Amazon Prime:
Biore Watery Essence is popular sunscreen though it has a good amount of alcohol so it's not for everyone. It's lightweight though . Shiseido Senka Aging has way less alcohol if you are dryer.
I bought this hadolabo from amazon back in February but never used it. I want to test it now but realise my packaging doesn't look like that but instead this.
According to amazon I definitely bought it from the first link however the packaging isn't the same. So what do i have? haha but more importantly would you trust it?
Examples available at Canadian drugstores- Aqualia Thermal Power Serum Vichy, Indeed Laboratories Hydraluron Moisture Serum
As others have mentioned, Deciem is a Canadian company and that would be my go to- The Ordinary has a very inexpensive HA + B5 serum, and then there is the Hylamide HA Booster and NIOD MMHC serum. These can be found online or in physical stores in some of the larger centres.
AB also has some great HA products- Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist is a popular choice, and readily available on amazon.
Is there an easy way to tell the difference between Hada Labo toners on Amazon (between light/moist etc)? I've been repurchasing it for a long time now, my first 2 from this link. I went to rebuy it again and saw that there's an updated version of it, but now the name says "Moist", which it didn't before. Does this mean I've always been buying the Moist version?
The one sold in Amazon doesn't seem to have that ingredient listed, hence the OP's question. Link:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Tokyo-Plumping-Cream/dp/B00I4BUBN8&ved=2ahUKEwjvz_mB2bfbAhUJtlkKHYwADHgQFjAAegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2iy1FnPnHd4sOrPQRriFet
This is something that I've also noticed and have wondered about.
~~Hada Labo Tokyo Skin Plumping Gel Cream dropped $5 on Amazon, making it only $9.79!~~
~~...But it became an "add-on" item in the process.~~
~~Mild rant, but also PSA for anyone who might be ordering stuff anyway.~~
Edit: Deal is over.
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Well start slow then!! Just use the azelaic acid to begin with, maybe for a week or so, to make sure your skin likes it. Then add in the niacinamide, use it for a week or so, then the hyaluronic acid. Some things can make you break out, and if you start using it all at once you won’t be able to tell what’s causing it!! The niacinamide from TO breaks me out horribly but lots of people love it. I love the azelaic acid but some people can’t handle the silicones and it breaks them out. So just be patient and take it slow so you can see what your skin likes :)
Like I said, the neutrogena hydroboost gel is great if your skin is a little oilier, or you could try the CeraVe hydrating lotion if your skin runs a little drier.
As for the azelaic acid, I find just using it once a day in the evening is enough for me :)
This is a good routine! Don’t worry about your face wash, that should be totally compatible. Just use whichever feels best on your skin :)
I’d recommend you use a moisturiser, especially if you’re using the hyaluronic acid serum in the evening. Hyaluronic Acid is a great hydrator because it absorbs moisturiser from around it. However, it needs something to get the moisture from, and if you’re not using a moisturiser over it it’ll just pull it from your skin which can leave you feeling more dehydrated :( the neutrogena hydro boost gel is really nice and light, and just sinks into the skin! Definitely give that one a try.
Also, if you’re using this routine for a month and you find your texture still hasn’t evened out, maybe try introducing an AHA exfoliator like The Ordinary glycolic acid. This works to gently slough away dead skin cells, smoothing and brightening your skin :) just pour some on a cotton round and swipe it over clean dry skin in the evening, then do the rest of your routine.
I love the Hadalabo solution very very much. I can't use the Premium version because my skin hates urea even though it's supposed to be amazing. However, I've used thiswhite label one for years and I looooooove it.
Is this the right product? It's been in my cart for ages.
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Thanks for your great insight :) ,I currently do not have a SPF.
Im looking at this one, its #1 best seller for skin SPF, but wow it is expensive, is it worth the money?
Or should I just grab a cheaper one, is the Eltamd SPF just a marketing gimick?
I have Retin-A from the dermatologist that I use every other day to every 3rd day. At night I use a PM moisturizer (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC).
That's kinda the "big 3 of skincare" I think. AM SPF moisturizer, Retin-A, and PM moisturizer. There's a bunch of other stuff out there that's meant to solve specific skin issues which I don't have (like bags under eyes, etc). But this works for me.
Glad I could help somewhat :)
This is the hydrating toner I personally use:
It’s called “Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion”. Japanese people call toners as lotions so the name is confusing. But I live in Japan and it’s only about $5 here whereas in US Amazon it’s nearly triple the price so I don’t really recommend buying it in the US because it seems that CeraVe has their own version!
Dab 5-7sh drops into your palm, rub your hands together and apply and pat onto your face. Pat into it’s sticky ish and wait until it absorbs into your skin to apply your face lotion.
As for working out, I would use a cleanser cause if sweat mixed with SPF makes me feel bleh. Your remaining SPF lotion may still need embedded into the skin and I wouldn’t want to apply toner after that.
If you didn’t apply your lotion with SPF before working out, rinsing thoroughly is OK I think.
CeraVe’s cleanser doesn’t seem to be harsh from what I remember when I lived in the states, but, I think what my esthetician and dermatologist would do is use a cleansing oil instead. You’d keep your skin moisture but also remove everything else.
Best answer would probably be:
SPF (then work out) -> cleansing oil -> toner -> moisturizer-> SPF
Didn’t apply SPF prior -> water rinse -> toner -> moisturizer -> SPF
Also, I’d avoid taking too hot showers and letting the water hit your face for too long. It’d dehydrate your skin faster and acne marks’ redness lingers much longer.
Try the CeraVé PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion. It’s lightweight (which I love) but does the job. I actually use it for both morning and night. Not shiny at all. Good price on Amazon right now. $13.97 US dollars.
It's unscented but I recently started using Neutrogena Hydro Boost gel-cream and it's amazing. Incredibly moisturizing but it leaves absolutely zero residue.
I have ichthyosis vulgaris and have always had a very difficult time with my skin because it's so dry. One thing I found helped a lot was using tretinoin/retin-a because I needed to shed the dead skin cells on top to be able to hydrate what was underneath, or my moisturizer would sit on top and not penetrate, making my skin oily but still dehydrated. I started using Kiku-Masamune High Moist under my moisturizer and that made a difference also. And Hada Labo Skin Plumping Gel Cream is basically my favorite moisturizer ever. Give those a try!
it’s a bit pricey, but I break out easily and found this to be the best for my skin
Deal link: Amazon
Get 3 Neutrogena Hydro Boost gel for the price of 2 in Amazon.
Wonderful products! Thank you for sharing SmootherThanAStorm.
Question about your sun screen choice. Why not Elta MD.
Does anyone know which moisturizer from LRP would be most similar to Cerave PM Lotion? I use it day and night. I like the weight (pretty light - heavier creams don't work well for me). I like that it has niacinamide.
I am using LRP Anthelios shaka sunscreen, which has been great! But I am totally overwhelmed by the amount of moisturizing products they have. 😰
Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion is the only product that I've never taken out of my routine. Where I'm from, the price is usually between 21CAD to 24CAD (there's several in person shops I check and compare prices). To get the most out of the lotion/toner, I apply 2 drops on a DAMP(very important) face, immediately followed by my moisturizer. I haven't kept track of how long it lasts since my sister often steals it from me, but it should last you well over 2 months if you use it twice daily.
Anything with ceramides in it will help lock in moisture and repair your skin. A dermatologist recommended, inexpensive brand is CeraVe. You can get it on Amazon or at any drugstore.
They make different variations, but here's a link to the most common one CeraVe
I use the clear facial sunscreen EltaMD UV Clear Facial Sunscreen Broad-Spectrum SPF 46 for Sensitive or Acne-Prone Skin, Oil-free, Dermatologist-Recommended Mineral-Based Zinc Oxide Formula https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MSN3QQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YSV8R120JYYSZ3YCSZ3F?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I’ve had great results with the 2% (“maximum strength”, red label) Stridex pads as long as I use them every night. Make sure you get a nice layer on your skin—I used a pad for each arm—it should be shiny and wet-looking after you wipe it on (instead of using one pad for both arms and sort of dragging it across dryly).
I’m still working out the best moisturizer to follow it—currently using my super light Cerave PM facial moisturizer (this one: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QCRCSGCP5GNKRG84E8Q5)
afterwards and sometimes a sparing amount of Vanicream body lotion (mine is called “light lotion” but I can’t find anyone selling that version right now online—here is their classic edition: https://www.vanicream.com/product/vanicream-moisturizing-lotion). The Vanicream lotion has mineral oil (like Vaseline) so it seals in moisture…but doesn’t breathe well.
If I stop using the Stridex for more than a couple days the bumps really come back (almost…eagerly?) but when I’ve been consistent I’ve actually achieved rather smooth upper arms within about 3-4 weeks.
I’m still working out what sunscreen to use on this super exfoliated skin…mostly I wear long-sleeved UPF 50 “sun shirts” (like a rash guard) when out in the sun.
If the maximum strength feels like it’s drying out your skin too much, you could try using the Stridex green label “sensitive skin” version (only 0.5% salicylic acid) for a short time to get used to it. I do believe, however, that it requires the 2% strength to make a significant difference.
EltaMD UV Clear Facial Sunscreen Broad-Spectrum SPF 46 for Sensitive or Acne-Prone Skin, Oil-free, Dermatologist-Recommended Mineral-Based Zinc Oxide Formula https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MSN3QQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_8SXNPGKAE3Z07KJYN8A3
I just wash my face with water and put on PM cerave when i wake up and before i go to sleep. : https://www.amazon.com/CeraVe-Facial-Moisturizing-Lotion-Lightweight/dp/B00365DABC
It's not crazy routine like some ppl here, but I don't get any acne. I'd rather stay acne free than try different stuff and get acne again.
Here you go:
Hada labo hydrating lotion
Hada Labo water gel
These are just links for you to see what the products look like, don't ever get them if they're above $20.
Neutrogena makes a scent-free product, it's the HydroBoost Extra Dry in the tub. This one. All the dupes I've found contain fragrance, which is unfortunate, because Kroger and a few other companies have made cheaper dupes, but I can't use fragrances products.
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This looks like contact dermatitis. We had the same thing with our little! We finally figured out he was getting these little face and cheek patches from us picking him up and him rubbing his little cheeks against our clothes (which we did not launder with his special fragrance free baby detergent). We tried everything for weeks and this is what finally worked…
First, wash her face at least once in the morning and once at night with just plain water, dab dry with a clean burp cloth or paper towel, then apply Vanicream atop the damp skin, (I’ll link below-it’s the cleanest product you can get for skin, and cheap!), wait a few minutes to soak in and apply aquaphor atop that.
It literally worked within like 1.5 days and his skin is PERFECT now. Not a bump. We notice that if we have visitors and they pick him up the bumps do return so in those instances we make sure to rinse his face with plain water, and repeat the process as soon as possible.
Also-launder all of your clothing in fragrance free “clean” detergent from now on. She’s got sensitive skin like our little guy 😣
Vanicream Moisturizing Skin Cream with Pump Dispenser - 16 fl oz (1 lb) - Moisturizer Formulated Without Common Irritants for Those with Sensitive Skin https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NWGCZ2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_32XWXYJMNMHHN65ZXA49?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
A good number of 'scripts lol
Metoprolol, lisinopril, amlodipine, clonidine, duloxetine, escitalopram
Face: tea tree oil face wash, salicylic acid spot treatment on acne, and salicylic based lotion. Been using this routine for a little over a year.
When it popped up about 5 months ago, but wouldn't go away, I started using cerave around the top of eye lid, under the brow.
I also drink plenty of water and live in a humid climate. I don't drink very often. Maybe a beer a week or two, tops. My other eyelid area isn't affected. Thank you for answering!
During the day I use neutrogena hydro boost:
Neutrogena Hydro Boost Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Face Moisturizer Gel-Cream to Hydrate and Smooth Extra-Dry Skin, 1.7 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NR1YQK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_XVPWGMEM3RP41SN5ZZVZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
CeraVe PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion | Night Cream with Hyaluronic Acid and Niacinamide | Ultra-Lightweight, Oil-Free Moisturizer for Face | 3 Ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_BQAEWS9H4Y1PE81MGVAK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Vanicream in the tub. I swear by it. I’m still struggling with some maskne but overall my skin has improved since I stopped obsessing over this sub and developing a million-step routine. Every moisturizer in the sub-$30 range broke me out and it took weeks to get my skin back to it’s starting point. I finally switched to vanicream and it’s been the most inoffensive, I’ve used it for over a year now. $12 for a 16 oz. tub that lasts almost 12 months. Simple ingredient list, and it’s free of parabens, lanolin, fragrance etc (the major offenders for acne-prone skin). Can buy at walmart or on Amazon. I will warn you it’s a bit thick so it takes some getting used to, but my oiliness actually reduced after using a heavier moisturizer.
Neutrogena Hydro Boost Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Face Moisturizer Gel-Cream to Hydrate and Smooth Extra-Dry Skin, 1.7 oz https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00NR1YQK4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_KCHGMGEDS6ZFQ7W1CY2B
Try it and thank me later
This one? https://www.amazon.com/Vanicream-Moisturizing-Sensitive-Irritated-Dermatologist Vanicream moisturizing cream
Your best bet would be going to a dermatologist and getting a prescription for retin-a (trentinoin generic) or finding a legit place to buy it online. If you can’t do that then bare minimum use sunscreen and a night moisturizer. Cerave is cheap and does a good job.
I'm a white male with sensitive/dry skin, and this is the moisturizer I use on my face. It took me a bit of experimenting to find the moisturizer that was best for me and this is what I landed on.
As for body lotion, my skin seems to be a lot less picky. I just try to find anything that's unscented, and I usually prefer stuff with aloe vera in it.
It's this one, yes non-tinted and has niacinamide
I like these:
Hada Labo Skin Plumping Gel Cream
Water, Hydroxyethyl Urea, Butyl Glycol, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol, PEG/PPG/Polybutylene Glycol8/5/3 Glycerin, Squalane, Triethylhexanoin, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Agar, Alpha-Glucan, Arginine, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Chlorophenesin, Citric Acid, Dimethicone, Disodium EDTA, Glucosyl Ceramide, Hydrolyzed Collagen (Marine), Hydrolyzed Hyaluronic Acid, Phenoxyethanoll, Sodium Acetylated Hyaluronate, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Hyaluronate, Triethyl Citrate.
LCN Urea 40% Chapped Skin Cream
Ingredients: Aqua, Urea, Dicaprylyl Carbonate, Diethylhexyl Carbonate, Ethylhexyl Palmitate, Polyglyceryl -4 Diisostearate/Polyhydroxystearate/Sebacate, Glycerin, Glycolic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Diisostearoyl Polyglyceryl -3 Dimer Dilinoleate, Malic Acid, Panthenol, Parfum, Cera Microcristallina, Saccharide Isomerate, Cera Alba, Lactic Acid, Tocopheryl Acetate, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Tetrasodium Glutamate Diacetate, Sodium Hyaluronate, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Hydroxide, Linalool, Citronellol.
The 2nd one is actually a foot cream although I used it on my face. It is heavier so may be better for dry skin. Unfortunately it has fragrance but it still works very well.
Do you think i need any HA or something like that for extra hydration? Why HA with moisturizer? I was thinking of using it in a hydrating serum or is it a bad idea to use more than one serum?
I checked theordinary and found that it has all the ingredients im looking for.
Timeless 20% Vitamin C + E Ferulic Acid Serum this? do i really need a boost in vitamin c? I saw a video about combinations and this one is suppose to boost the effects of vitamin c.
Where are you based? Location has a huge influence on price. What's cheap in Europe can be pricy in the US and vice versa. Anyway, here's the Amazon for the gel-cream: https://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Hyaluronic-Hydrating-Moisturizer-Gel-Cream/dp/B00NR1YQK4
If your budget is tight, I'm sure the Aveeno will also be fine. I actually like using unscented body creams as face moisturizer, which keeps costs waaaaay down (I'm slightly acne-prone for context).
I’m a fan of EltaMD UV Clear Facial Sunscreen SPF 46, it’s been my go-to sunscreen for several years.
I think it meets your criteria. (Might be too pricey)
Yeah, I had the same issue with that brand. This is the Facial sunscreen I've found to work well for my skin and not leave a pilling or a greasy film.
EltaMD UV Clear Facial Sunscreen Broad-Spectrum SPF 46
I use a Neutrogena water gel and it works really well. It has entirely fixed my dry skin and itchiness on minox and feels amazing.
Hada Labo's Skin Plumping Gel Cream is a must for dewy, hydrated skin (apply it to damp/wet skin)!
EltaMD UV Clear Facial Sunscreen Broad-Spectrum SPF 46 for Sensitive or Acne-Prone Skin, Oil-free, Dermatologist-Recommended Mineral-Based Zinc Oxide Formula https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MSN3QQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_M4PKZA882120QBKF1H2P?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I get mine from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr\_1\_4?crid=X1BXN6A45ZAX&dchild=1&keywords=hada+labo+hyaluronic+acid&qid=1626268464&sprefix=hada+%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-4
Wow your skin looks great!
Question: Which version of vanicream do you use? I see a lot of people mention vanicream in this sub but not sure which moisturizer to purchase?
Is this the correct one?
Neutrogena makes a hyaluronic acid cream that I’ve recently fallen in love with. It’s in a blue container. Let me find you a link.
Edit for link: Neutrogena Hydro Boost Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Gel-Cream Face Moisturizer to Hydrate & Smooth Extra-Dry Skin, Oil-Free, Fragrance-Free, Non-Comedogenic & Dye-Free Face Lotion, 1.7 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NR1YQK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1R26BBZ2CTNYWJ1TNMBH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Remember to do a test patch before applying to your whole face to make sure you don’t have an allergy.
Jokes aside, I actually don't use aftershave. I use CeraVe PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion and then apply my acne cream after. For fragrance, I just use cologne. Most of the Aftershave stuff breaks out my face, unfortunately.
No worries & thank you for the reply! Is this the correct product?
I definitely will be starting to incorporate some sunscreen in my life. I also greatly appreciate the specific product recommendation, and the advice on how to use it.
Should I change my moisturizer and cleanser? I mean they both get the job done, but do you think there could be actual improvement from long term usage of different products? I don't want to just be impulsively buying stuff.
In particular, I was kind of eyeing the Hada Lobo cleanser. Also, it seems like most of the people here swear by CeraVe Moisturizing Cream tub.
Do you think there's a real advantage to cleansing and moisturizing twice a day? I only do it at night at the moment, and I realize now I may have been making an obvious mistake.
Sorry for all the questions! Thanks in advance.
It took me like almost a year to get my medication moved up to 0.05%, and the entire time I've been needing moisturizer. I'm sure starting with a high dosage made it really really difficult for your face to adjust. Thing is - tret is more of a long-term commitment than a short term relationship. After a few more months your moisture barrier will be repaired, mine usually takes about 2 weeks. I use Cerave PM cream + this hada lobo moisturizer, and in the morning the Cearve AM cream and mine is pretty much good - and I have dry skin normally.
Wow thanks for the ingredient breakdown, that honestly gives the best perspective imo!
also, the Neutrogena HB extra-dry formula is actually free from artificial dyes and fragrance and you can get it on amazon fr 🥰 https://www.amazon.fr/Neutrogena-Hydro-Boost-Gel-crème-Extra-dry/dp/B00NR1YQK4?th=1&psc=1