If you have an engine with a top-accessible filter and you aren't using this, you're doing oil changes wrong. No more lifting, no more skid plate removal, no more risk of fucking up your oil pan by cross threading (though I've never done this, I've heard of it happening), and no more replacing the plug gasket. Save a TON of time.
In my experience, it's quite thorough as well. They are cheap, this is the one I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LCEWR4A/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's 5.3l, so it's only good for 1 change and it will fill it up. Mityvac is a good brand if you want to pay a premium, but I think you get a larger one.
I use a fluid extractor and remove as much oil as possible and put it back in the oil jug. I also set my chainsaw on a thick piece of cardboard to absorb the remaining oil that leaks out.
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MVA6851-Automotive-Accessories/dp/B00MPQ8RBG
I’m not a fan of it. Mostly because you can get a pneumatic one from amazon for $70-80
EWK Pneumatic/Manual 6.5 Liter Oil Changer Vacuum Fluid Extractor Pump Tank Remover https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WD64H8Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yzJdEbK2F8VDK
I ordered a few of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EH4UXM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was kind of difficult to find a bottle it would attach to though, it doesn't fit big lids like a milk or juice jug. I got it on a 32oz sprayer bottle. Makes watering super easy but I do wish I had a larger container.
https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Pneumatic-Changer-Extractor-Remover/dp/B06WD64H8Z
That's the one I have, I bought it because I can use it with my air compressor or operate it by hand if I need it elsewhere. Works great either way. FYI, regardless of which one you buy, do not leave gas or any other kind of solvent in it for extended periods. It will soften the plastic and cause it to deform under vacuum the next time you use it, don't ask how I know lol
I bought a giant ass fluid evacuator for my transmission fluid flush, and, uh, it works fine to do brake fluids really quickly. Just attach, crank up the suction, and keep the brake fluid from running out. It's actually pretty crazy. It would probably help suction out any of the garbage running through the pipes opposed. Not sure if that's better than pumping the brakes.
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-Fluid-Evacuator-Plus/dp/B0002SR7TC
Fluid extractor is worth every penny. With the filter being on the top of the engine I don't need to put the car up on ramps or crawl around on the ground anymore.
You can get an extraction pump if you don't want to put the car on jack stands.
Avoid Pittsburgh-branded jack stuff. That's Harbor Freight's brand, and while their stuff may be fine for other basic tools, stuff where your life is on the line needs to be a more trusted and expensive brand.
I have one of these and I tried hooking up my compressor to it, but nothing would happen....
It was almost like there was a valve closed off or something. If I turned the little knob where the compressor was plugged into thinking maybe it was like turned off or something. It let the pressure out of the container that I had built up from the hand pump. Wonder if mine is defective or something..
I feel your pain my friend because I felt your pain as well. I've been doing my own oil changes, plus those of family and friends since We've owned a house.
The wife has a fun blue '13 R60 that we custom ordered from the dealer. The oil change for this car went from being an absolute mess to being the easiest to do once I had the right tool. Like u/stuwoo mentioned you should still wrap a couple of towels at the base of the housing. Unscrew the filter until you can see the entire giant o-ring, no more, no less.
Next, use an oil extracting vacuum pump to get the oil out of the engine. It takes about 5-10 minutes to do it's thing.
Then, change the oil filter like you usually would without the typical mess. And finally, add the new oil to your R60 and continue on motoring.
Do you have any experience with the manually pumped oil extractors like this one? They're more expensive, but include a reservoir and more hoses and accessories than the $20 12V ones.
This is the one I have. Works perfect, and even has the ability to hook it up to compressed air along with manually pumping.
Alternative take... leave it in. Chances are a shop torqued it at 300ft/lbs with an air impact, forever warping/seizing aluminum to steel. If you get it off, it'll never stop leaking.
Get one of these and pull oil out from the dipstick. https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Pneumatic-Changer-Extractor-Bleeding/dp/B07LGTGMWN/
I have a warped oil pan on a 98 Volvo that this happened to. I would drop the pan and replace it if I could, but it's a PAIN to drop this oil pan.
I use my fluid extractor more than I thought I would and always appreciate it.
If your oil filter is on the top, just use an extractor through the dipstick tube and voila
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-Fluid-Evacuator-Plus/dp/B0002SR7TC/
How many quarts? Invest in one of these (or one big enough for your car): https://www.amazon.com/FOUR-UNCLES-Extractor-Pneumatic-Convenient/dp/B0836GH3G7/
And do your own oil changes going forward. Once you've pulled 98% of the oil outthis way, it's a lot less messy to change the oil filter as well. Synthetic oil seems to have increased in price by about 25% in the past 2 years.
I don't know about $30, but I bought this one a couple years ago and it's awesome:
FOUR UNCLES Oil Changer Vacuum Fluid Extractor Pneumatic/Manual 6.5 Liter with Pump Tank Remover and Brake Bleeding Hose Convenient Oil Change & Fluid Change Tool No Leaks No Overfills https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0836GH3G7/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_3DTJDY6KEK20WZGZTKYC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Mityvac extractors will change your life. I have both this one and a larger 1.5ltr one that I can't imagine working without. https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MVA6851-Automotive-Accessories/dp/B00MPQ8RBG/ref=sr_1_4?crid=XD4NMOD59HSX&keywords=mityvac+extractor&qid=1648570991&sprefix=mityvac+extractor%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-4
If it’s the one where you have to pull fluid through the dipstick tube, mightyvac also makes a big syringe pump thing that would work. It’s about 30$, you would just need to get a longer tube attachment to go into the dipstick tube.
Powerbuilt (647570 Oil/Fluid Extractor - 6.3 Quart Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OCEGONC/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_A4DTNMTC2GAVBVBSESF6
That's the one I use. I've had it for 7 years and still works great.
If you really want to be nice to him, buy him a vacuum pump oil extractor like this.. Manual Fluid Extractor Much less mess if you suck the oil out through the top instead of draining underneath.
You can get one of these...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002SR7TC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Super convenient but really only works if you have a filter accessible from the top (both of my cars do so made it worthwhile)... ie. if the filter is below the engine you'll need to get under the car anyway
Assuming your car uses less than 6 quarts, Costco sells the Mobil1 synthetic oil for like $30 ($25 when it is on sale). A good quality filter is probably $10 (Fram Ultra?), and if you wanna drain the oil out (instead of using an extractor via the oil dipstick), then the oil drain plug crush washer is like $2. I would do it myself to know it is being done right and that I'm not getting some crappy oil honestly.
I looked at both pictures. Do either look like they're leaking? I can't really tell.
If they don't appear to be the source, maybe you got some oil splashed around when you did the oil change.
The only clean oil changes I have ever done are those with a vacuum extractor through the dipstick tube AND an oil filter cartridge (BMW, Porsche) with a screw cap on top.
Here’s the Amazon link to the one I have which is manual pump and 2.3 gallons. They also have a bigger one and slightly smaller one.
Forget the pan and socket for the drain plug and use one of these pump and if you hand-tighten the filter (as you should be doing) you don't need a wrench.
pull the left over oil out with one of these fluid extractors and then set the saw on a scrap piece of cardboard
You can sometimes find automotive repair chains like Midas Muffler or similar that will advertise low oil change specials, just to get you in there. But you'll often find that they'll try or have reasons to upsell you other services. If you've ever been into a car dealership and looked at new cars or taken your car to a dealer for service and they have your home or email address, they'll also send you periodic advertisements for oil change specials, mainly to get you back in the store. Places like Jiffy Lube tend to be the most expensive.
Being also older and not as into crawling under the car to drain the oil pan as when I was younger, I bought an oil change pump to eliminate that part of the oil change process and it's been a game changer for changing my oil. I still have to briefly get under the car to change the filter but it's made the ordeal more tolerable and cheaper. I got something like this for removing the old oil.