Their educators became respected professionals who had to prove themselves before becoming educators.
Fellow smart kid here. Being gifted or in the upper levels of intelligence carries a LOT of downsides. Please educate yourself and be aware. Mental illness risks are a lot higher as they get older.
One of our children had suicidal thoughts in the third grade. Thankfully she talked to us about it and we got her help. It starts early. Prepare yourself and try and enjoy the ride.
Living With Intensity: Understanding the Sensitivity, Excitability, and the Emotional Development of Gifted Children, Adolescents, and Adults https://www.amazon.com/dp/0910707898/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XBlkDbR122PWY
That book helped me understand myself as well as other gifted people. There are other books on Amazon specifically aimed at parenting gifted kids.
This book does an excellent job of explaining the basics of ABA in understandable terms. It’s meant for parents from the perspective of a parent. It’s great!
The Verbal Behavior Approach: How to Teach Children With Autism and Related Disorders https://www.amazon.com/dp/1843108526/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_E2C2GHNKEMK6SKTFJ53X
You need to read this book. Changing the way you think is the first step.
The tl;dr version is this. "There are no "mediocre" developers. We are all eternal students of software engineering, at different levels of the learning process. Even the most "r*ockstar-iest rockstars*" are still just students who are constantly learning.
If you change the way you think about your position as a software engineer, you will easily overcome whatever imaginary challenges you have created for yourself in your own mind.
Check out the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. It has lots of information on being twice exceptional. The author also wrote a shorter article here, which is more focused on misdiagnosis.
Lived experience, mom experience, and licensed psychologist here (but not YOUR psychologist).
This was the most helpful starting point resource on this for me: https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
You need to look into twice exceptionality (2E). My daughter was diagnosed as gifted, and it masked her ADHD-PI in her neuro-psych test. Puzzles keep her interest because she enjoys the challenge, and the signs of inattentiveness weren't showing up on a puzzle-based assessment. Neither does a messy room or constantly lost items at school, insomnia or lack of impulse control/self-regulation. Giftedness does not disappear in adulthood, so I would suspect yours is a similar situation. I found this book useful: https://smile.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435/
I found the other book. I haven;t looked thorugh it yet.
https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
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This book might be helpful (there is a previous edition used for less $$) The author has several other books on 'gifted' kids that are helpful.
There is a strong correlation between the need for deep convos/getting bored by small talk with higher iq (120 up). I just learned that many "typical" adhd symptoms are similiar to feelings/thoughts and symptoms people with higher iq experience. Also the so called scanner personality. More than 15% of the population have a iq higher than 115, so its not that outlandish to think about it.
Maybe take a look into the topic. I found this book really helpful https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
I can highly recommend the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults. It has a long chapter on ASD and giftedness.
There is the very good book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a very long chapter on giftedness and Aspergers. I can really recommend reading this book, it is very in depth both in differentiating between the two conditions, but also what do to when both conditions indeed are present.
There is a very good book on the topic of giftedness & autism, called Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. There is a big overlap between the symptoms of autism/Asperger's and the symptoms of gifted people being in an environment that does not fit their needs.
The authors state that it can be very difficult to find out whether a person is gifted, or is autistic, or both. They recommend viewing the observed symptoms of autism under the lense of whether they are dependent on a certain environment. When the symptoms disappear when the person is in an environment more suited to gifted people, it is unlikely the person is autistic.
I must say, the fact that some people are more intelligent than others is an inconvenient truth, but it is very researched and proven. The same is true for IQ tests, even though it is not always easy to interpret the results, IQ scores say quite a lot about people.
Shifting to a growth mindset, helped me a lot.
There is the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a long chapter on differentiating ADHD and giftedness. I don't remember exactly what the authors write about ADHD, but in general they stress that problems from ADHD (and other mental health issues) should appear in all contexts. So a child being very twitchy and unruly in many different environments should be evaluated for ADHD, while a child being easily distracted and rebellious in school, but not at home should be evaluated for what leads to such behaviour in the school environment.
Concerning your coffee and adderall experiences, I think that is just the standard reaction to those drugs. Coffee makes you more active by turning up your heart rate, and making you more active in several psychological ways. This is exactly why many people drink coffee. And since you seem to not be used to caffeine, your reaction must have been quite strong. The same is true for adderall. It gets you in a sort of hyperfocus mode. This is why people abuse it for studying for exams etc.
If you have ADHD, it should show up in your life in places like work or university. If your only problem is procrastinating on projects, you should look at why you procrastinate on them. Tired from working or studying? Too much time spend on social media/TV/whatever? And if you think coffee makes you a more functional person, just start drinking it more. BTW, if a person with ADHD would drink a double espresso without caffeine tolerance, they would probably experience a very unpleasant episode of having too much energy and too little focus.
Concerning giftedness evaluation: In Germany, it is possible for a (child) psychologist to diagnose someone as gifted without a formal IQ test. This possibility exists for people like your son, who cannot be IQ tested for some reason. The evaluation would then look at your sons advanced abilities in school, his sensoric quirks, etc. I could imagine that something similar exists in the Netherlands. You could try finding out which universities do research on gifted people, they often have some kind of center for gifted people attached. And even if not, the researches still might be able to help in some way.
Concerning giftedness and ASD: The book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults is a very informative read on the subject. The authors lay out what has to be taken into account for differentiating between giftedness masquerading as ASD and giftedness in combination with ASD. They stress that any disorder such as ASD should be seen in all environments (in school and at home, etc.), otherwise it has to be taken into account that the problems stem from the gifted child in conflict with the environment, not from a disorder. They also say that they consider an ASD diagnosis only correct if the gifted person is not able to have a socially appropriate relationship with anyone. Which I guess doesn't mesh with the more fluid view of ASD of the last few years. But I think it is relevant to mention it, since you say your son is sociable, but he knows no boundaries. I think it's reasonable to consider that this might be because he is highly energetic and wants to satisfy his curiousity.
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It sounds like your child is gifted and aren’t getting what they need to thrive in this world. Check out this website and see if it applies to your situation. https://rainforestmind.wordpress.com/
Edit: if they genuinely are 1% in their classes then it’s not adhd or a learning disability. Gifted people often have very severe needs and sensitivities and their family members become sick of their extraordinary needs compared to a “regular” person. They are often misdiagnosed with many different mental illnesses from bipolar to adhd which can inhibit their access to the vast amount things they want to fill their brain with. There’s another book that you can look at from Amazon called “Living With Intensity” which is very helpful at explaining this sort of thing and providing ways to make everything go more smoothly for individuals and families who deal with giftedness. https://www.amazon.com/Living-Intensity-Understanding-Sensitivity-Excitability/dp/0910707898
This is from the product description. “Gifted children and adults are often misunderstood. Their excitement is viewed as excessive, their high energy as hyperactivity, their persistence as nagging, their imagination as not paying attention, their passion as being disruptive, their strong emotions and sensitivity as immaturity, their creativity and self-directedness as oppositional.”
The company I work at is a great fan of Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck (Amazon Carol Dweck
Also Drive by Daniel Pink Amazon Drive Daniel Pink
They might be something that could help. Nice that you're looking out for them!
Sorry about formatting I'm on mobile
The company I work at is a great fan of Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck (Amazon Carol Dweck
Also Drive by Daniel Pink Amazon Drive Daniel Pink
They might be something that could help. Nice that you're looking out for them!
Sorry about formatting I'm on mobile
The company I work at is a great fan of Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck (Amazon Carol Dweck
Also Drive by Daniel Pink Amazon Drive Daniel Pink
They might be something that could help. Nice that you're looking out for them!
Sorry about formatting I'm on mobile
The company I work at is a great fan of Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck (Amazon Carol Dweck
Also Drive by Daniel Pink Amazon Drive Daniel Pink
They might be something that could help. Nice that you're looking out for them!
Sorry about formatting I'm on mobile
IQ tests in children are less accurate than in adults. This is because children are not as experienced in taking tests, can be distracted more easily, do not understand the significance of the test and various other things. When evaluating children, it is thus very important to think about in how far the test results fits to the overall presentation of the child, and what the thought process of the child was when taking the test.
For example, when a child does not answer many questions at all, the reason can be that the child thought about each question they did answer very long to make sure the answer was correct. Vice versa, when a child breezes through the test, but most answers are wrong, it is a possibility that child was bored, and did not think about the questions too much.
In general, contrary what /u/Bakingflowers wrote, IQ is a very stable measure throughout life. Only things like heavy brain damage can change your true "general intelligence", and not for the better. Since you scored high on several IQ tests recently, it is very likely that the evaluation when you where younger did not give you a correct estimate of your IQ due to your depression and distractedness.
Concerning Dyslexia and Dyscalculia, but also your history with depression and anxiety, I can recommend you the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. It gives an overview of all the psychological issues that can have an interrelationship with giftedness, and also how to evaluate them with giftedness in mind.
TBH it sounds like you're not at the point where you're ready and willing to take that class. Potentially, you may never reach that point. I'd suggest reading:
Mindset - Updated Edition: Changing The Way You think To Fulfil Your Potential
by Carol Dweck
but, actually, I don't think there's any point.
The invention of Calculus was one of the tools that spurred on the Scientific Revolution. It's used pretty much everywhere. If you don't understand the point in something that pivotal then there's probably no point in anybody wasting any time on you.
Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults is a very relevant book about many health issues gifted people face.
For someone new to the field, or pretty much anyone who wants to know more about ABA with a great explanation..."The Verbal Behavior Approach" by Mary Barbera. It gives simple explanations and examples and is for people who don't know all the ABA jargon.
Giftedness can actually look like autism, ADHD and the various personality disorders you mentioned. See this article. The authors also wrote a book, which I have read and which I found quite insightful.
A point that the authors make in the book is the following: If a person has a disorder like autism, the disorder should affect them in all contexts. So if a person can relate to other people that share their interest, but not to coworkers, it is unlikely the person has autism. And if a child misbehaves in school or is distracted, but can function just fine in other contexts, it probably is not ADHD or oppositional defiant disorder.
The same goes for symptoms. Having trouble relating with other people can be a symptom of autism, but if you don't have any symptom that usually appears in autism, it is probably not autism.
That said, the things you describe fit giftedness very well. Not being able to relate to other people, being defiant in school, being unstructured in your learning, being bored by repetition are all things that are very common in gifted people. That you where identified as gifted at one point also fits this explanation, even if you believe the IQ test you where given was bogus, having scored extremely high on it still is very relevant.
One final book recommendation is 'Mindset' from Dr Carol Dweck.
"A 'growth mindset' is about believing that you can develop your abilities."
"A 'fixed mindset' assumes that our character, intelligence, and creative ability are static givens which we can’t change in any meaningful way."
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also is a good start for explaining the theory of positive disintegration and how to apply it to your gifted child. it is VERY accurate and has some good strategies.
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My son is a kindergartener who also doesn't like talking about his moods, partially i think because he can get trapped in colouring his entire day with his current emotion (either really good or really bad), or he goes through such an array of moods in a day, he has a hard time separating out one from the rest. There is a journal I've seen on the internet that is similar to a mindfulness journal, that has faces to explain moods, which i have been thinking of getting for him. He is better at "bucket full, half full or empty" analogies, and I check in with him occasionally on that, as well as "who filled your bucket today, who's bucket did you help fill?". I think the analogy is easier for him then analyzing the huge array of moods and feelings he is pounded with all day.
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does your public school support IPP's? that shouldn't require funding, and will open up resources for free, at least in canada.
Then boy do I have some books for you.