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Read the 2-hour job search - it gives step by step instructions and templates on how to do this. Basically, you strategically reach out to people on linkedin.
I'm getting my MBA now, and I spend more time networking (linkedin outreach, networking calls, meetups, coffee chat, etc) than I do on class and HW combined (but that's normal for MBA's).
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> I'm trying to remain steadfast and writing good cover letters, applying to as much as I can (10/wk or so), but I can't help but feel discouraged thinking there's someone with an in-house friend who's going to get at least an interview before me because of it.
Rather than applying to 10 jobs per week, you should aim to have about 5-10 coffee chats/networking phone calls per week with people in the industry that you're interested in.
>People say don't apply to 100 jobs, just 15 you really want is a bad idea.
Literally nobody says this. The advice is rather than apply to 100 jobs with a blind resume drop, you should be networking with employees from 25 or so different companies, in an effort to get a referral to one of those roles.
>Most companies actually don't network with students and don't list emails in job description. Just apply and hope for the best.
Ummm what? The whole point of an MBA is the network that comes with it. What do you mean 'companies actually don't network with students' - you don't network with 'companies,' you network with employees at companies (ideally ones who graduated from your school).
>I guess I could search the role and company on linkedin and DM an employee in that role but unsure if that'd be too much
This was literally my entire recruiting process. If you're not willing to DM alumni on LinkedIn, then idk what to tell you, other than you're not willing to do what is necessary to get a good job.
I agree with u/Pulp-nonfiction; you need to take a look in the mirror. Also, I'd recommend you read the 2 hour job search. Seems to me like you don't know how to network.
Great post. To add to Step 2.3, the book The 2-Hour Job Search provides a great system for reaching out to people. Sorry if it seems like I'm shilling, but it helped shift my mindset on networking, especially digitally these days. Basically the book outlines how to reach out to people (without asking for a job) and narrowing them down into 3 categories of how helpful they may be.
Read this book. It may help answer some of your questions and give you better insights into how the admission process really works at US universities, specially the elite ones
u/Sophiadaputa, it's unlikely that anyone will be able do this question justice of AskReddit on all places. I would recommend reading this book: https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617
It's by a Black developmental psychologist and includes descriptions of how White, Black, and other racial/ethnic/cultural identities develop in the U.S. As usual, reading a book is probably the best way to get a real answer.
A few things have really helped me be productive writing (and I’m not wildly productive, but I’ve submitted at least a couple first authored papers each year, and then been a coauthor on at least two others each year, so definitely an OK pace for right now).
1) being in a writing group! My PIs organized one, but students could also organize one. We all do something with behavioral health, but within that our areas are pretty different, so it’s not essential to all be writing on the same topics. 2) in our writing group we have been reading (very slowly), discussing, and using the tips from Sarnecka’s The Writing Workshop (pdf is available out there somewhere but here’s the Amazon link to take a look at the description): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1733484604/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_B33YB9D7FB23MEH4Y3W8
3) a group writing log! I don’t write in the log every day, but every few days I catch up and put down whether I wrote or not each day for the previous few days. I do write almost every day, but literally one minute of writing counts as writing that day. Maybe I added a tiny bit to an outline, maybe I got into stata and fixed something with my analysis, maybe I just tracked down a citation I needed and stuck it in there, or maybe I wrote three pages - it’s all over the place. But having the group accountability of the log, AND seeing my progress written down on the log makes me feel much more on track.
4) regular (weekly) check ins with my advisor and regular writing groups (every other week) also keep me on track and give me a rhythm to my week. I don’t do great without some structure to my schedule, even if that structure is self-imposed and I kind of need to make it up every week after my meetings.
Obviously everyone is very different! This stuff has worked for me to make me modestly productive as opposed to totally unproductive and stuck :) hopefully it’ll help you rocket into the modestly productive realm too!
- Read this thread from last month
- Read The 2 Hour Job Search - it revolutionized how I job search.
Thanks for writing up this guide! It’s a nice overview.
I would be interested in your assessment of how informational interviewing might (not) fit into the competitive hiring process. By informational interviewing I mean pre-application candidates meeting with individuals at prospective employers to learn about the field and the worker’s experience and also to build relationships that may lead to referrals for future employment, as discussed in the book The 2-Hour Job Search by Steve Dalton.
What are your thoughts on this?
There’s a section in The 2-Hour Job Search about networking online with alumni and other relevant groups. It also includes sample email templates that I’ve used successfully.
I'm glad I could help! If you've got the time, I find that stream of consciousness exercises are really helpful for warming up prior to working on assignments. Before writing something, I'll just pull up an empty word document, look away from my screen, and just type everything that comes into my mind. No backspacing allowed, and I just delete whatever I wrote afterward. It's an excellent way to get into the writing mindset and preventing that lockup.
Here's some other resources you might find useful, these books were really helpful to me as well:
Hope these help!
It's the title of a book.
It really emphasizes the idea of making a list of companies your interested in, reaching out to employees that work there, and using them as referrals – (This is the really really really over-simplified version).
Effectively, referrals are better than blind applications, because they help get your resume seen.
You mention drugs and every admissions officer will wonder if you are a risk.
There is a reference to that in this book. https://www.amazon.com/Gatekeepers-Admissions-Process-Premier-College/dp/0142003085
You might want to check out The 2-Hour Job Search, this might help you, like providing an email template to send to potential contacts.
Fellow parent here- the helicopter parent comments are out of place. You’re asking a legitimate question. The more you learn about the process the more stressful it becomes.
It sounds like he has as good of a chance as anyone with similar stats and it’s going to come down to essays and extracurriculars. Do the ECs support his academic path and interests? If so, that’s to his benefit.
I’ve come to the conclusion that’s it’s all kind of random at some level, so put your eggs in a lot of baskets.
Some of ya’ll need some education. Here’s a good start https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617 or https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414/ref=pd_aw_fbt_img_1/132-0270931-6552858?pd_rd_w=xxvAG&pf_rd_p=0ac31943-e5c4-4aef-ab7b-6ab45d3ad9aa&pf_rd_r=0HRA5XVEDECM4ZMSVVTK&pd_rd_r=da7a9d64-3982-4533-824c-3d...
https://www.amazon.com/Who-Gets-Why-College-Admissions/dp/1982116293/
Pretty sure the Scoir podcast mentions this too.
>Every evening after work I fill a couple of applications and the next day (or day after next usually) I get a rejection even without any interviews.
What is a core 40. If you want an insight on college admissions read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Gets-Why-College-Admissions/dp/1982116293 It’s extremely complicated and goes beyond grades. What year are you?
People want to congregate with people who have shared experiences. Let them live lol. We already have single sex dorms, single sex sororities/fraternities, black fraternities, Asian sororities, HBCUs, queer housing, etc. This is nothing new. If you are actually intellectually curious, pick up a book like https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617
Here is my BASIC template - Use the following columns. Company Alumni Motivation Posting Size applied Contacted replied Viewed Rejected
I used the 2 hour job search as a template. And then I use my gmail to organize the specific jobs applied to (as most now send an email for application). https://www.amazon.com/2-Hour-Job-Search-Technology-Faster/dp/1607741709
I’m at about 4 months now myself.
Keep in mind, some companies’ HR departments take upwards of a month to even process an application.
Try to reach out to any company contacts you might have.
My university’s career services department also highly recommended this book to assist with the search. I haven’t read it, but maybe you’d be interested.
I don't mean the phrase literally lol. It's a phrase that's sometimes used to explain self-segregation. There's also a book by the same name. (https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617).
Also, yes people sit with their friends at lunch, but that answer is undergirded by a question of if those friend groups racially homogeneous, and why.
"Why do all the 'X' kids sit together at lunch is just another way of asking, "Why are all the X kids friends with other X kids" if that makes sense.
It was the subject of an interesting book a few years ago about how they consciously worked to increase their stature (http://www.amazon.com/Transforming-College-Little-Known-Strategic-Distinction/dp/1421414473/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1465158959&sr=1-1&keywords=elon+university) --you can debate whether it amounted to gaming the college rankings, but even then it really does become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Okay I looked at many comments to reply mine...yours wins.
I'm not quite as far up shit creek as you are, and hopefully I'll be going back down soon thanks to this book. I seriously suggest you give it a try. The 2-Hour Job Search. Ten bucks. easy. and it holds your hand through prioritizing potential employers, contacting network connections, and working them to get an interview. It discourages applying to online postings, and is written by the Senior Career Consultant at Duke University.
I'm trying my best not to be clickbait, but I started this book on the 16th and I already have 5 interviews (Two done, two this weekend, and one on Tuesday). Get it.
Your google is broken... They want you to believe it was US News and World report, but it's really from this guy:
http://www.amazon.com/Review-Public-University-Honors-Programs/dp/0615642462
It appears he's kinda like the Who's Who people.
There's an interesting book about self-segregation titled "Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?" about the development of racial identity.
Initially this seemed to read like old news. There exists literature in psychology about identity development (Beverly Tatum's <em>Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?</em> covers childhood and developmental psychology very well) but I suppose adult, post-formed identity is new territory.
Tatum cites work done by William Cross on racial identity development that explains why some Blacks would be happier. When trying to assimilate into white normative culture, there is a form of self-repression. There can also be anger at a society that wants you to assimilate but will never accept you. The only thing that can make someone happy in this situation is to embrace the identity that society forces upon them and making it a positive thing.
r/psychology's out-of-hand dismissal was rather surprising, but then again, I don't know how many of the commenters are academic or practicing psychologists, or just pop-(or worse, evo-)psych enthusiasts. The op did have some interesting comments regarding hir multiracial children.
Thank you for your comment. It is very illuminating and I think there are some similarities and lessons we can take from each other.