There are several accounts of North Korean prison camps from defectors who escaped them. Here are some translated drawings from one such escapee.
You could also look up the book Escape From Camp 14 though the subject of the book has admitted that some of the details are not correct.
Basically, most of the personal accounts you'll find get lots of scrutiny for being sensationalized, but if you look at the commonalities of the accounts, life in there does not look "light" in any way, shape, or form.
Escape from Camp 14 is a great read; not only does it detail what life is like in the political prison and labor camps, but the struggles that North Koreans face after successfully defecting to the south.
"North Korea’s political prison camps have existed twice as long as Stalin’s Soviet gulags and twelve times as long as the Nazi concentration camps. No one born and raised in these camps is known to have escaped. No one, that is, except Shin Dong-hyuk.
In Escape From Camp 14, Blaine Harden unlocks the secrets of the world’s most repressive totalitarian state through the story of Shin’s shocking imprisonment and his astounding getaway. Shin knew nothing of civilized existence—he saw his mother as a competitor for food, guards raised him to be a snitch, and he witnessed the execution of his mother and brother.
The late “Dear Leader” Kim Jong Il was recognized throughout the world, but his country remains sealed as his third son and chosen heir, Kim Jong Eun, consolidates power. Few foreigners are allowed in, and few North Koreans are able to leave. North Korea is hungry, bankrupt, and armed with nuclear weapons. It is also a human rights catastrophe. Between 150,000 and 200,000 people work as slaves in its political prison camps. These camps are clearly visible in satellite photographs, yet North Korea’s government denies they exist.
Harden’s harrowing narrative exposes this hidden dystopia, focusing on an extraordinary young man who came of age inside the highest security prison in the highest security state. Escape from Camp 14 offers an unequalled inside account of one of the world’s darkest nations. It is a tale of endurance and courage, survival and hope."
It can also be extraordinarily depressing. But it is informative.
It's still pretty low on the list. If you like this stuff check out "The Private Life of Chairman Mao". It's a biography of Chairman Mao from the perspective of his personal doctor, who's position as one of Mao's favorites while being non-political gives great insight into the thinking of China's key players during Mao's life, and after his death.
Linke here: https://www.amazon.com/Private-Life-Chairman-Mao/dp/0679764437
If you are trying to understand China better, reading Xi might be a good idea
https://www.amazon.ca/Xi-Jinping-Governance-English-Language/dp/1602204098
There are two other volumes if you get done the first.
There’s an interesting book written by British a Apache pilot who fought in Afghanistan . He said he found it traumatic how easy it was to kill people. Drone pilots say they suffer from similar problems.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apache-Ed-Macy/dp/0007288174/ref=nodl_
Genghis Khan and the Making of the Making of the Modern World
I amazingly flipped through the book right to the right page, I have no idea how I did it.
"In their new effort to be as un-chinese as possible, the mongols dropped the traditional evenhanded approach to diverse religion and granted ever more favor and power to Buddhism, particularly to its Tibetan variation, which contrasted most strongly with the Confucian ideals of the Chinese. Unable to criticize their mongol rulers directly, the Chinese people turned much of their hatred toward the foreigners who helped the mongol administer their empire. The Tibetan Buddhist monks in particular became the object of hatred, since local people along the newly opened Mongol route to Tibet carried the obligations not merely of feeding, housing, and transporting the monks, but of carrying their goods for them as well. The monks, often armed, acquired a terrible reputation for abusing people who served them. The Bureau of Buddhist and Tibetan Affairs strongly defended the monks at court and imposed a host of special rights for them. At one point the bureau tried to enforce laws that stipulated that anyone who hit a monk would have his hand cut off, or that anyone who insulted or defamed a monk, if convicted, could have his tongue cut out. The Mongol officials eventually overturned these laws as incompatible with Mongol rule, which forbade the use of body mutilation as a punishment."
Perhaps torture is a strong word, but not far off. The writing is a bit vague over if/how long the law was active, but it is the thought that counts lol
Actually, his book points out that the donors did give a lot to the hospital and had a much shorter than average wait. Great book: https://www.amazon.com/Tokyo-Vice-American-Reporter-Police/dp/0307475298
I’m an organ donor and believe in it, but the system has been manipulated at times.
I read a book called Viper Pilotby a retired wild weasel pilot. They have the latest in countermeasures and are all extremely well trained, he says most of the guys have their masters degree on top of the Air Force level of special forces intensity training. When those guys hear missile lock they react like someone has a gun to their head- they immediately shit pants and evade, evade, evade. Drop everything and pilot like your mother’s life depends on it. It’s terrifying.
"A tiger never brushes his teeth"
"I wash my prick in cunt"
-Two actual Mao quotes, spoken to his personal physician, Li Zhisui, after he pleaded with the Great Helmsman to start taking care of his hygiene.
Hey if you're still reading up on NK, might I suggest a book? Escape from Camp 14. It's a true story about a guy named Shin and how he managed to flee from NK camps. Here's his bio too.
They follow islam, read your pedo prophet's biography ffs.
9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
9:73 O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
9:123 O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.
Sourah 9, the most peaceful Sourah in the Quran, the religion of 'peace' really shows its colors in it right?And guess what? It so just happens that Sourah 9 is the PENULTIMATE Sourah to be revealed, giving Muhammad the final marching orders towards every non-Muslim on Earth.
Bukhari transmits how your Momo said:
(Sahih al-Bukhari 25)
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."
Seems pretty straightforward, and no amount of mental gymnastics can make you look away from the truth.
Read your pedo prophet's biography by Ibn Ishaq/Ibn Hisham, it's all in there:
"The Private life of Chairman Mao" written by his personal doctor was....well parts of it were disgusting. The green teeth was a result of both him never brushing his teeth, but instead insisting on rinsing his mouth out with green tea instead. The doctor claimed that when he examined Mao's teeth, they would simply burst with puss.
After doing a bit of research, I’m quite confused. Sahih al Bukhari was compiled 846 AD, while Sirat Ibn Hisham was compiled in 834 AD. So, technically it comes before.
However, hadiths are Berra ruins that are passed on through centuries, technically making the Hadiths in Bukhari significantly older than SIH.
Even so, AFAIK, SIT is a recession of Sirat Ibn Ishaq. And this, Sirat Rasuallah, which was translated by an Oxford professor (here), and on page 792, it states:
“He married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams.” (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad), translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, tenth impression 1995], p. 792)
Did Ibn Hisham write multiple biographies?
No country has ever been communist. Communism is a stateless and classless society that is extremely decentralized. That has never happened. His policies led to millons of deaths (sparrows), and that increase is something all capitalist countries experience.
Here, I recommend learning:
In the Book Viper Pilot the author mentions many times how much most pilots hate HARM's, due to their failure rate and often having no idea whether they made good effect on target. You are effectively blindly firing them in a general area and hoping they hit radar. I recall the pilot saying that most of the HARM missiles fired in OIF burned out and hit dirt or random buildings because they were so ineffective.
The children are raised as slaves. One such person (3rd generation) born in a NK prison camp was forced to see his mother and a brother executed in front of everyone.
https://www.amazon.com/Escape-Camp-14-Remarkable-Odyssey/dp/0143122916
> Call Churchill and Roosevelt as War Criminals instead.
Here a book sold on Amazon UK calling Churchill a war criminal - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchills-Secret-War-British-Ravaging/dp/0465024815
Here is a book sold on Amazon USA calling Roosevelt a war criminal - https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299
> Let the German claim Holocaust denial
Germany to erase their sordid history have enacted a law specifically against. I don't agree with it, but it's there.
Of course, we are comparing this to a screenshot of "Honeymoon Hotel" :-) You guys are hilarious.
I knew you were saying this. Not a surprise as I've debate many Churchill fans.
Read this book: [Churchill's Secret War: The British Empire and the Ravaging of India during World War II
And especially this...
Reading this you get the perspective of Indians side of the story instead of Westerns.
Wow, a lot of contentious threads.
I haven’t read this book before but I heard about it on Revisionist History podcast. Anyways, the book is Churchill's Secret War: The British Empire and the Ravaging of India during World War II by Madhusree Mukerjee.
So fuck the CCP and all that, but this seems like lazy reporting. On the wayback machine, it doesn't look like that many reviews were removed (less than 15), and the ones that are notably removed have nothing to do with the book anyway. This just seems like Amazon removing spam or unrelated reviews, not valid negative or dissenting reviews.
Your interpretation of capitalism is colored in your own bias. You call it getting rich at the expense of others. Where is that in the definition? You are guilty of your own complaints.
Private ownership inherently means the private citizen can own and operate property and capital. Yes liberalism is a political philosophy. Both raised the status of the individual. You are trying to split hairs and argue semantics rather than the substance and at this point is getting annoying and tiresome.
Most people died of disease and famine throughout human history. This decreased in the late 19 century into the 20th century. It accelerated under Maoist control. When the leaves on the trees are picked bare and citizens eat dirt in your major cities, you have done something very wrong. You can disagree about deaths under Maoist China, but when it comes from the lips of people I know that lived through it; it is now outside the realm of propaganda.
I would recommend this book by historian Jung Chang who was part of the Red Guard. https://www.amazon.com/Mao-Story-Jung-Chang/dp/0679746323
Government control and oppression under the CCP did not start last year. It’s been baked into the pie since the Long March. Look to North Korea and that China is completely aware of what goes on. See Yeonmi Park’s interview with Joe Rogan.
Capitalism allows for the greatest mobility of wealth and has lead to the highest class mobility. Capitalist systems allows for the greater expansion of the economy and use of human ingenuity by allowing individuals to market their skills and ideas. The greater GDP gains allows for greater tax revenue which allows for generous social programs. Or god forbid private charity.
> None of that was sanctioned.
It's a complicated story that one the pilot's actually talks about in his book.
I’ve read each volume of this for one and it’s a common theme. Also, I just pay attention to the world and don’t keep my head in the sand.
Yeah, because Chinese leadership doesn't write...
https://www.amazon.com/Xi-Jinping-Governance-English-Language/dp/1602204098
There you go. You are so ignorant if you think the country doesn't produce Marxist intellectuals. The most western stupid take you could have made.
Look again
No these lists are for YOUR dumb ass. Educate yourself
Oh it’s been happening. There is a guy who was born in one of their prisons. They have three types of prisons, the worst is the concentration camp.
This is his book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0143122916/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_lOFVFbJ76SRXY
Here is a defector that explains the prison/camps:
I just read <em>Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World</em>, which was really good. <em>Secret History of the Mongol Queens</em>, which is more about what happened after him, is also very good.
I'm fuzzy on the details of this, but I remember in this book that Genghis would send messengers to a city that they wanted to take over. They would give the aristocrats the option to surrender or die. If the aristocrats chose to fight, Genghis and his army would kill the aristocratic class, meaning everyone in power in that society, but would then subjugate all the regular citizens. I think the book said that this was especially easy in areas where the citizens had unfavorable opinions of the ruling class before hand.
So while agree that there were times when Genghis and his army might kill entire cities, I think more frequently he would kill the ruling party and subjugate all the citizens, imposing taxes and what not.
Please let me know if you disagree with this take.
Here is the book I read.