That product sounds like a cleaner and not a sanitizer. I already use starsan, which is a no-rinse sanitizer. Others use iodophor, which is also no-rinse, but I think you’ll find starsan the more popular choice around here.
Anyway, I always just rinse mine out immediately after drinking the beer so no residue gets sticky up in there and then come bottling day I rinse the inside and the lip with starsan. I also use this to take away some of the hassle.
FYI, StarSan doesn't clean beer lines. You want to use something like Beer Line Cleaner to remove beer stone and other residue. An air pump would work, but it would be a lot of work if you ask me. If you get an aquarium pump, that will be a great option (and what I use). Here's a build example http://www.homebrewfinds.com/2012/11/recirculating-draft-line-cleaning-build.html
PBW will take it off very quickly. I soak my thermo-probes and their little stainless grill clips in a glass of water with half a tablespoon of PBW after each cook and they come out sparkling after about 10 minutes. If the part you want to clean is stainless, try this. PBW is kind of pricey, but you can find it on Amazon and it's useful around the house for other things. I run my dishwasher empty with PBW instead of detergent once a month and it really keeps things spiffy.
It’s a brewing cleaning product in told that’s pretty much oxyclean on steroids.
Five Star P.B.W. Cleanser - 4 Pounds https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001D6IVZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XBXQV2V0FGQ40Q6HDKTN
PBW is an alkaline, non-caustic, environmentally and user friendly cleaner Cleans everything, plastic, glass, stainless steel, tanks, carboys, bongs, pipes, hose, anything
Here's the thief I got from Amazon. Great reviews and it's worked excellently for me as well. Makes the job tons easier!
E.C. Kraus Glass Wine Thief https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00838SVV6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3pxNybA6RRT9K
It stands for powdered brewing wash. It's commonly used in commercial brewing applications. You mix an ounce or two per gallon depending on the level of soil.
But you could probably get it cheaper if you have a local brewing supply. Oxi-clean probably works great too, but I have this around for brewing.
This works really well.
You can also get acetone from your local hardware store, but it needs to be diluted before being dumped into your drain.
I use PBW to clean my glass and it works really well, for a bong sized like OP's I would put 2tsp of PBW into the bong then fill it with boiling water and shake to dissolve, then let it sit for ~20 minutes and then rinse/repeat if necessary. The grime usually will just lift off the glass and then you can rinse it out.
It can leave a permanent haze on the glass if you let it sit for a long time, like an overnight soak, so I usually set a 20 minute timer and then repeat if necessary to get all the shit off.
FYI, you can usually drop the ? and everything after it in URL's like that. That's all usually just tracking data like what keywords you used to search for the product and things like that. For Amazon you can drop the ref part too.
https://www.amazon.com/Star-San-B0064O7YFA-San-32/dp/B0064O7YFA
do you have access to Amazon or similar online shopping? https://www.amazon.com/Star-San-B0064O7YFA-San-32/dp/B0064O7YFA/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2VBBO09FTXO6X&dchild=1&keywords=star+san+brewing+sanitizer&qid=1602088301&sprefix=star+san%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnl...
This 32 oz bottle will last you a LONG time, properly diluted.
I would highly recommend PBW (powder brewery wash) for cleaning any piece. Non-toxic, environmentally friendly, and even more effective than pipe cleaners when trying to get to the hard-to-reach spots of bubblers et al.
polymerized Lipids are tough. Try soaking in Five Star Brewery Wash. I've never seen anything it can't get off and do it without damaging anything https://www.amazon.com/Five-Star-PBW-Non-Caustic-Alkaline/dp/B0064O7XBA/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1L4BCB8F3WRKV&keywords=five+star+brewery+wash&qid=1670901822&sprefix=five+star+brewery+wash%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-2
I use Professional Brewer's Wash like I would any other powder cleanser. Works amazingly well. Wet the stainless, sprinkle, scour and then let sit for a minute or two. Rinse with hot water and appreciate the sparkle.
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BTW - I'm not sure if its available in Europe or not.
What about using something like Starsan to sanitize your portable water storage containers? It’s used to sterilize containers for wine making and doesn’t need to be rinsed out.
Add PBW cleaner to water, make sure the piece is submerged, microwave for 4 or 5 minute.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064O7XBA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Believe it or not I've brought worse than that to life.
Use PBW cleaner.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064O7XBA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Add to water, use more than instructions say to by double, put the banger in the water, boil for 5 minutes in the microwave and it will be brand new. Removes chaz and all.
Stainless doesnt hold on to a lot of skanky smells so there's that. If you want to give it a good clean order some Five Star PBW and you'll be good to go.
Heard about using PBW yesterday.
They said to mix with water in a bucket or other container and to throw your stainless steel grates/basket in there overnight and rinse off the next day.
Try soaking the basket overnight in this. It works very well
Five Star P.B.W. Cleanser - 4 Pounds https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001D6IVZG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_QYB9X44ES5G6Q19QABN5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
If this happens again to your ceramic'd CA: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Star-Cleaner-Powdered-Brewery/dp/B001D6IVZG?th=1
I swear by this stuff since I started home brewing mead. OMG--it dissolves anything organic that is sticking to your cookware.
Run across this a few times, especially with beer tanks. Check this stuff out:
Five Star PBW - 1 lbs - Non-Caustic Alkaline Cleaner, White - pbw1 https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0064O7XBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Q6BHQF4D32KVTZHEW64H
Cheers!
Not sure how well it would work on boots, but StarSan is an acid disinfectant used commonly in food processing, dairies, bars, restaurants, beer bottling etc. It may help with other surfaces and items. It foams up to get into all the little crevices and doesn't require rinsing. You dilute 1oz in 5 gallons of water, so the bottle of concentrate lasts a long time and is handy to keep around. If you mix it with distilled water instead of tap water, it'll stay potent longer. Dip stuff in it or pit some in a spray bottle. Read the label contact time.
It's odorless, flavorless, and used in food applications so it works well on things like stainless steel bits.
Five Star - 6022b_ - Star San - 32 Ounce - High Foaming Sanitizer https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0064O7YFA/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_C3J353QCQ3VKJ3EXBX71
Highly recommend this for cleaning hardware scale in kettles. Use it for my wife's kettle at home where we have somewhat hard water.
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Star-PBW-Non-Caustic-Alkaline/dp/B0064O7XBA
I can't speak directly to koji, I'm just starting to look into it. But I have been a home beer/cider/mead brewer for over a decade.
I use no-rinse StarSan. Two minute contact time. Its a concentrate, so a container that big will last for years.
I use this - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064O7XBA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I run some hot water, use a spoonful and let is dissolve in a tall glass, I toss in the obsidian, and then I add just a bit more to the opening at the top, the fill the glass/cup with enough water to cover everything standing up. Leave it overnight and then rinse out the next morning. I then use a separate glass and let the obsidian soak in distilled water to then rinse, finally let it rinse and air-dry for a bit. Do it once a week depending on usage.
Soak it in this:
It might take a few days, but eventually you’ll just be able to shake it and all the sediment will just slide out. It’s designed to clean brewing equipment that you can’t get a brush into. Works great every time! Just takes some time, but at least there’s no scrubbing.
Interesting. I thought the cups would melt if exposed past 180. I don't remember where I heard that but if they can withstand 215+ in PC then I'll just PC them.
As for the lids: I have some 99.1% i can soak the lids in. Or would a bath in star-san be a better alternative? I use it for beer making and have gotten into the habit of spraying it everywhere as liberally as I do the ISO.
I should note these are just older cups. I used half the stack and twisted the bags closed and put them in a sealed bin 3 months ago. When I opened the tub today I noticed the bags untwisted and were now open. So it's not like they were left open on the counter and sneezed on for a few months heh.
I'm just trying to be cautious without having to buy another stack i'll only use half of :/
I've been using PBW with great success. I'm not sure if it's available in the UK but I'm sure there is an equivalent.
After I have removed the trub and given it a good rinse I add some PBW powder and enough hot water in the kettle to cover the grain basket. I'll throw my hop spider and anything else that needs a good soak. Then I turn on the burner and set the temp 120 or so. After it gets warm I turn on the recirculation pump and let it go for a good 10 mins or so. PBW is very good at removing stuck on debris. When the 10 min soak is done I drain most of the PBW/water but leave enough to give everything a good scrub using the harder green side of a sponge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0064O7XBA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share This stuff works like a charm! You can also use it on corning baking dishes and it doesn't damage it! Fill with water add this cleaner and let it sit for a few hours to overnight it will look brand new!
I use mine daily, clean it weekly with a bit of this, some hot water - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064O7XBA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1let it soak overnight, rinse with hot water, then I let it sit in distilled water for a bit, once it's dry it goes back to use. Looks as new.