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Not OP but I really like The Psychiatric Interview by Carlat. It's a quick read. Chapter 21 is about the MSE. It's on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Psychiatric-Interview-Daniel-Carlat/dp/1496327713.
I was recommended this book by a psychologist
https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/0910707642
I just started it but I think it’ll be a pretty helpful read. May help you with combatting the sensory issues you mention
Check out the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. It has lots of information on being twice exceptional. The author also wrote a shorter article here, which is more focused on misdiagnosis.
Musings of an Aspie is a good blog and the author, Cynthia Kim, has written a book about the diagnostic process: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I
I linked to the UK Amazon because the look inside preview has more pages. I haven't read the whole thing but in the preview it looks like she does a good job of demystifying the diagnostic criteria.
In terms of female presentation, I relate more to what Cynthia Kim says than Tania Marshall.
A bit late, but I think Musings of an Aspie is a great blog for those who are seeking to relate the DSM criteria to real life. I also looked at the preview on Amazon of her book 'I think I might be autistic' which goes into the same thing - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I I haven't read the whole thing but even the preview was helpful. She is a late-diagnosed woman and has really explored the diagnostic criteria and her own experiences of going through diagnosis.
Good luck with your efforts to explore this. I hope that it helps you to unravel things and come to a better place.
Personality Type: An Owners Manual
This is a book, not an online source, but it's the best resource I've read. It has profiles on each type as well as very in-depth descriptions of the different functions, and it helped me move beyond the "profile" sort of typing where you just try to match someone's personality as a whole to those prefabricated profiles to actually understanding how functions work and how they might express themselves differently in people's behaviour. It's a good investment IMO.
There’s a fantastic book written by an expert in the field that you can get here
The bad faith argument that IQ tests are only good for white people is nonsense. If that were the case, whites would score on average higher. Why is a different race and culture scoring higher? The argument just doesn’t make any sense.
Anything from Claudio Naranjo and Oscar Ichazo. Specifically Character and Neurosis.
Link to amazon page if in the US: https://www.amazon.com/Character-Neurosis-Integrative-Claudio-Naranjo/dp/0895560666
IQ tests are still widely used in psychometrics, which is one of the best replicated subfields of psychology, and are well respected by the relevant researchers. One kind of evidence that intelligence is a singular thing is that cognitive scores from different kinds of tests correlate highly with each other. The multiple intelligences theory of Gardner, on the other hand, has no evidence to support it and intelligence researchers do not generally believes it. IQ also correlates with a ton of stuff we care about, e.g., academic success, job performance, income, life expectancy, and a ton of other stuff. If you'd like to learn more, Intelligence: All That Matters is a very good non-technical introduction.
P.S. I haven't watched Shaun's video (yet), but I think it's better practice to cite scientific criticisms if they are available.
I recommend the book "I think I Might Be Autistic" as it gives a lot of examples for each of the criteria and helped me start to figure out what counts under what. Playing with your hair is definitely a form of stimming and counts under repetitive behavior.
'General intelligence' and IQ are well validated:
There is a strange disconnect between the scientific consensus and the public mind on intelligence testing. Just mention IQ testing in polite company, and you'll sternly be informed that IQ tests don't measure anything "real", and only reflect how good you are at doing IQ tests; that they ignore important traits like "emotional intelligence" and "multiple intelligences"; and that those who are interested in IQ testing must be elitists, or maybe something more sinister.
Yet the scientific evidence is clear: IQ tests are extraordinarily useful. IQ scores are related to a huge variety of important life outcomes like educational success, income, and even life expectancy, and biological studies have shown they are genetically influenced and linked to measures of the brain. Studies of intelligence and IQ are regularly published in the world's top scientific journals.
https://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-That-Matters-Stuart-Ritchie/dp/1444791877
Lived experience, mom experience, and licensed psychologist here (but not YOUR psychologist).
This was the most helpful starting point resource on this for me: https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
You need to look into twice exceptionality (2E). My daughter was diagnosed as gifted, and it masked her ADHD-PI in her neuro-psych test. Puzzles keep her interest because she enjoys the challenge, and the signs of inattentiveness weren't showing up on a puzzle-based assessment. Neither does a messy room or constantly lost items at school, insomnia or lack of impulse control/self-regulation. Giftedness does not disappear in adulthood, so I would suspect yours is a similar situation. I found this book useful: https://smile.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435/
I found the other book. I haven;t looked thorugh it yet.
https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
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This book might be helpful (there is a previous edition used for less $$) The author has several other books on 'gifted' kids that are helpful.
There is a strong correlation between the need for deep convos/getting bored by small talk with higher iq (120 up). I just learned that many "typical" adhd symptoms are similiar to feelings/thoughts and symptoms people with higher iq experience. Also the so called scanner personality. More than 15% of the population have a iq higher than 115, so its not that outlandish to think about it.
Maybe take a look into the topic. I found this book really helpful https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435
There's a book called I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults by Cynthia Kim. Would that help you out a bit?
I've upvoted nearly all the comments, because everyone is correct. You did not receive professional advice or assessment, and what you were told is wholly inaccurate.
To further your self-exploration, I highly recommend Cynthia Kim's book, I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults
I've linked the Kindle version, which is only $5 USD. I recommend this book because it guides you through the DSM-V criteria for ASD diagnosis and gives lots of real-life examples of how people--but especially high-masking women--may have fulfilled the criteria. It helps you think outside the standard, sometimes stereotypical responses or criteria, and it may help you learn that certain thought patterns, silent/internalized behaviors (e.g. echolalia but only inside your mind; motions that have been minimized to be unnoticeable to othere are still stims) may be manifestations of autism, especially in the aggregate.
If you are in a country not following the DSM-V for diagnosis, I still highly recommend the book. It really helps provide insight into hidden/quieted/masked/internalized behaviors and traits (i.e. what is often associated with a "feminine presentation"), AND it connects them with the major diagnostic criteria. That connection is what should speak to a competent psychologist or psychiatrist.
I can highly recommend the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults. It has a long chapter on ASD and giftedness.
There is the very good book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a very long chapter on giftedness and Aspergers. I can really recommend reading this book, it is very in depth both in differentiating between the two conditions, but also what do to when both conditions indeed are present.
There is a very good book on the topic of giftedness & autism, called Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. There is a big overlap between the symptoms of autism/Asperger's and the symptoms of gifted people being in an environment that does not fit their needs.
The authors state that it can be very difficult to find out whether a person is gifted, or is autistic, or both. They recommend viewing the observed symptoms of autism under the lense of whether they are dependent on a certain environment. When the symptoms disappear when the person is in an environment more suited to gifted people, it is unlikely the person is autistic.
I must say, the fact that some people are more intelligent than others is an inconvenient truth, but it is very researched and proven. The same is true for IQ tests, even though it is not always easy to interpret the results, IQ scores say quite a lot about people.
Some have differing degrees and areas they are affected.
My social and "talent" areas are the most heavily affected, while my systemizing habits are relatively mild.
Everyone is different. If you want to get technical , check out the DSM diagnostic criteria for ASD
If you are a young adult/adult and want a better explanation of all the criteria and how it manifests , I would recommend the book "I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults"
There is the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a long chapter on differentiating ADHD and giftedness. I don't remember exactly what the authors write about ADHD, but in general they stress that problems from ADHD (and other mental health issues) should appear in all contexts. So a child being very twitchy and unruly in many different environments should be evaluated for ADHD, while a child being easily distracted and rebellious in school, but not at home should be evaluated for what leads to such behaviour in the school environment.
Concerning your coffee and adderall experiences, I think that is just the standard reaction to those drugs. Coffee makes you more active by turning up your heart rate, and making you more active in several psychological ways. This is exactly why many people drink coffee. And since you seem to not be used to caffeine, your reaction must have been quite strong. The same is true for adderall. It gets you in a sort of hyperfocus mode. This is why people abuse it for studying for exams etc.
If you have ADHD, it should show up in your life in places like work or university. If your only problem is procrastinating on projects, you should look at why you procrastinate on them. Tired from working or studying? Too much time spend on social media/TV/whatever? And if you think coffee makes you a more functional person, just start drinking it more. BTW, if a person with ADHD would drink a double espresso without caffeine tolerance, they would probably experience a very unpleasant episode of having too much energy and too little focus.
Popping in to say I’m considering the same! I also read I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults by Cynthia Kim (of Musings of an Aspie) which recommended neuropsychological testing. I’m still deciding if I want to go the neuropsych route, but I imagine that might be more consistent in different countries? (Could totally be making this up)
This book helped me a lot,
https://www.amazon.com/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I
Also read "22 Things a woman with Aspergers Wants Her Partner to Know"
Concerning giftedness evaluation: In Germany, it is possible for a (child) psychologist to diagnose someone as gifted without a formal IQ test. This possibility exists for people like your son, who cannot be IQ tested for some reason. The evaluation would then look at your sons advanced abilities in school, his sensoric quirks, etc. I could imagine that something similar exists in the Netherlands. You could try finding out which universities do research on gifted people, they often have some kind of center for gifted people attached. And even if not, the researches still might be able to help in some way.
Concerning giftedness and ASD: The book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults is a very informative read on the subject. The authors lay out what has to be taken into account for differentiating between giftedness masquerading as ASD and giftedness in combination with ASD. They stress that any disorder such as ASD should be seen in all environments (in school and at home, etc.), otherwise it has to be taken into account that the problems stem from the gifted child in conflict with the environment, not from a disorder. They also say that they consider an ASD diagnosis only correct if the gifted person is not able to have a socially appropriate relationship with anyone. Which I guess doesn't mesh with the more fluid view of ASD of the last few years. But I think it is relevant to mention it, since you say your son is sociable, but he knows no boundaries. I think it's reasonable to consider that this might be because he is highly energetic and wants to satisfy his curiousity.
I think going through this book by Cynthia Kim (it’s short) is an INCREDIBLY useful tool to prepare for a diagnosis. She breaks down the DSM-V criteria for ASD and walks through how many different types of behaviors (especially behaviors that are more common in females) meet the criteria.
This is so important because ultimately this is how a diagnosis is made, especially in the US. If you can better speak the language of the assessor, you will have a far greater chance of success. For USD$5 for the Kindle version and a few hours of your time, I can’t think of anything that will better predispose you to a successful outcome, if formal diagnosis is what you want.
https://www.amazon.com/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I/
It sounds like he may be gifted and it’s quite possible he’s n the spectrum as well. This is a great read: https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/0910707642
It does run in families, but you will both have more tolerance and more tools to deal with your own child. Plus every kid has a different personality.
IQ tests in children are less accurate than in adults. This is because children are not as experienced in taking tests, can be distracted more easily, do not understand the significance of the test and various other things. When evaluating children, it is thus very important to think about in how far the test results fits to the overall presentation of the child, and what the thought process of the child was when taking the test.
For example, when a child does not answer many questions at all, the reason can be that the child thought about each question they did answer very long to make sure the answer was correct. Vice versa, when a child breezes through the test, but most answers are wrong, it is a possibility that child was bored, and did not think about the questions too much.
In general, contrary what /u/Bakingflowers wrote, IQ is a very stable measure throughout life. Only things like heavy brain damage can change your true "general intelligence", and not for the better. Since you scored high on several IQ tests recently, it is very likely that the evaluation when you where younger did not give you a correct estimate of your IQ due to your depression and distractedness.
Concerning Dyslexia and Dyscalculia, but also your history with depression and anxiety, I can recommend you the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. It gives an overview of all the psychological issues that can have an interrelationship with giftedness, and also how to evaluate them with giftedness in mind.
Again, to anyone who is actually familiar with the state of the science will recognize the issue. For such a charged subject with a history of ideological leanings, merely posting a few studies doesn't settle things. "Here's a few studies, QED". That's not how it works.
If you're actually interested, here is an interview with one of the leading experts in the field:
> Neuroscience approaches have already made intelligence research more mainstream and ready for inclusion in policy discussions. For example, the single most important factor that predicts school success, by far, is the student’s intelligence. Social economic status, family resources, school and teacher quality all pale in comparison. The data showing this is overwhelming. Yet, the word “intelligence” is virtually absent from all discussions about education policies in the United States, and many other countries.
A well reputed book for general readers is Intelligence by Stuart Ritchie.