Oh my god, not all nude photos are porn. You can find the actual list of evidence easily. I see you copied another redditor without the actual source, so I suggest you look it up. As an example, this is one of the "books with pictures of nude children' you're talking about: https://www.amazon.com/Cronos-Pere-Formiguera/dp/8495273349
There's an amazing book called <em>Without Sanctuary: Lynching Photography in America</em> that documents the culture surrounding lynching. Along with photographic evidence, it includes images of the variety of lynching memorabilia and souvenirs that made their way across the US. Be forewarned, it's somewhat graphic. One of the images that stuck with me was a town square full of people (including children) posing with the corpse of a man who'd been lynched. The spectators were grinning ear-to-ear as they crowded in to get next to the body. I'm betting there's people in that crowd that are alive today.
I remember the creators did a lot of media interviews when the book was released, so if you Google it, you should be able to find plenty of informative materials and articles relating to the project, and you can visit their website here.
Here's another one for you. You should look up what those books actually are: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/no-child-porn-found-at-neverland-thenor-now-the_b_577fdfbce4b0f06648f4a3f8
This is one of them. You can buy it on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Cronos-Pere-Formiguera/dp/8495273349
John Ibson's book Picturing Men (2006) is a longer discussion on this photographic record, also bringing in work, class, race, changes during the world wars.
For anybody wondering about the book they showed, it's True Norwegian Black Metal, and is an amazing photobook. Lots of really dope photography from all sorts of black metal bands.
Calling most of those things "child porn" is absolutely absurd.
> Evidence Item #509. Book with pictures of nude children. > The hard cover book is titled Cronos, by author Pere Formigeura, contains images of nude children of both sexes, as well as adults. Same location as item #508.
This book is so not illegal and not child porn that you can buy it on Amazon.
> Evidence Item #508. Book with images of ‘nude teenagers and/or young adults’ > Located in upstairs library area of video/game room. The book was titled, The Fourth Sex: Adolescent Extreme, with no listed author.
Yep, this one is on Amazon too.
> Evidence Item #304. Two pornographic magazines, two ‘nude art books’ > Magazines were Barely Legal and Girls of Penthouse, with one book titled, The Gynoids Genetically Manipulated. That book contained, according to the report, ‘appeared to have a fetish (bondage, Sadomasichism, piercings, etc.) related theme’.
Barely legal? Oh, OK, legal then. Etc. I don't see a single thing there that is actually child porn.
When I moved to CO 20 years ago I was given this book;
https://www.amazon.com/Stray-Shopping-Carts-Eastern-America/dp/0810955202
and I use it every day!
Quick, consult the The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America: A Guide to Field Identification to verify the variety.
In my senior year high school class, we had a round table discussion about these images in this book. Truly horrible stuff.
Ever since they were little I’d have lots of conversations about kids in poorer countries do for fun instead of buy things. Then we’d look up stuff about other countries. And always commented on the lifecycle of things and how much people buy just to buy. I also took them to thrift stores a lot to see the stuff that was just for sale at a regular store didn’t make that person happy and now it’s here. It wasn’t an instant process but rather a long childhood conversation. This book was a staple in our house. https://www.amazon.com/Material-World-Global-Family-Portrait/dp/0871564300
Peter Menzel has a similarly themed earlier book, Material World. The photographer's gallery is online.
Where did you get this information? This is what's really scary, people believe crazy, made up shit.
The art book Room to Play that was found had weird artistic/gothic pictures. Some of adults in creepy rooms with children's faces superimposed on them. You can still buy it on amazon.
His secret room wasn't secret at all it was called the doll room. Just a bunch of toys and dolls in it.
You mean this book that anyone can buy right now off amazon?
Room to Play https://www.amazon.com/dp/1931885095/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_31ePCbKARTR3M
“Simen Johan’s Room To Play has probably been most responsible for many of the more salacious media headlines, as Johan’s style (like that of Jonathan Hobin) often features photographs of children in what appear to be extreme or neglectful conditions. The “morphing” photographs in Johan’s book-where children’s faces appeared to be superimposed over adult bodies (and vice versa)-are clearly part of an artistic statement about the loss of childhood and what happens when children are forced too soon into the turmoil and pain of adulthood. “
Trust me, I’ve done all the research. I’m not a biased individual or Jackson fan trying to bend the truth. The guy was weird but the claims from his trials were spun so badly by the media it’s not even funny. None of these items were ever brought to trial because none of it would have ever held up in court.
Did you read that link? Did you mean the books they found like this one that's readily available from Amazon TO THIS DAY, because there's nothing illegal about it, or even suggestive for that matter, unless you really want there to be something there?
Yeah... I think we're gonna need more than that to condemn the man.
Right just like the art people that had multiple floors in the twin towers at the same areas where planes hit.
https://www.amazon.com/Gelatin-B-Thing-Tex-Rubinowitz/dp/3883755079
A $600 dollar used book
Take Ivy (Amazon link) https://www.amazon.com/Take-Ivy-Shosuke-Ishizu/dp/1576875504 Not sure if it's what you're asking about...specifically Ivy League fashion, possibly too late for what you're talking about. I love it though
Thanks for reminding me of the book The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America that I found on Amazon a few years ago. I had forgotten all about it, but this photo would've fitten right in.
Or!
Since I understand Koba's insistence on keeping the image, it would just be so fucking awesome if they could do a photoshoot similar to what was done on the True Norwegian Black Metal book: http://www.amazon.com/Norwegian-Black-Metal-Johan-Kugelberg/dp/1576874354
I keep hoping Mike Smith will use a book on spotting Canadian shopping carts in the wild I sent him as a prop on the show. :) Mike, if you're reading this...it would be hilarious.
I know he got it because he opened it up on Swearnet, lol...
I'm 2 episodes into Season 10...lol...hilarious.
Back to how it use to be and how it should always be!
great book on the subject "There was a time in America when two men pictured with their arms wrapped around each other, or perhaps holding hands, weren’t necessarily seen as sexually involved—a time when such gestures could be seen simply as those of intimate friendship rather than homoeroticism.
Such is the time John Ibson evokes in Picturing Men, a striking visual record of changes in attitudes about relationships between gentlemen, soldiers, cowboys, students, lumberjacks, sailors, and practical jokers. Spanning from 1850 to 1950, the 142 everyday photographs that richly illustrate Picturing Men radiate playfulness, humor, and warmth. They portray a lost world for American men: a time when their relationships with each other were more intimate than they commonly are today, regardless of sexual orientation. Picturing Men starkly contrasts the calm affection displayed in earlier photographs with the absence of intimacy in photos from the mid-1950s on. In doing so, this lively, accessible book makes a significant contribution to American history and cultural studies, gender studies, and the history of photography."
My wife got me True Norwegian Black Metal for Christmas, and subsequently, I've been on a black metal bender, having a blast discovering new bands. My favorite so far has been <strong>Kampfar</strong>.
I'm not sure which nude photos you're talking about?
One of Spence was of him as a toddler, and the other was something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppertone_girl
Do I think someone would be judged as owning child porn with both those things? I'd hope you'd be joking if you said yes.
The only two books of naked boys:
>Boys Will Be Boys included pictures of boys, many naked, in various non-sexual activities such as climbing a tree or sitting on a bench. The book had an inscription reading, "To Michael: From your fan. Love XXXOOO Rhonda – 1983, Chicago."[57] Another book, The Boy: A Photographic Essay was inscribed, "Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys' faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. MJ." The book contained pictures of boys in various situations by different photographers, including pictures taken during the filming of the 1963 Lord of the Flies movie and showed the boys on the set, usually clothed but sometimes nude, playing in the sand, reading comic books, and having pillow fights.[58][59] The only book depicting male sex acts was a rare out-of-print book called A Sexual Study of Man which featured many images of adult men engaged in all kinds of homosexual intercourse which the prosecution admitted they could not tell if Jackson had opened.[57]
Others are books like this, which Redditors seemed to feel was really awful but actually seems to hurt the prosecution really:
http://www.amazon.com/Room-Play-Simen-Johan/dp/1931885095/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
I don't even think the prosecution bothered showing the Room to Play book to juror's as it seems more of a book on how kids are made to grow up too soon and a critique on the adultation of children, not a fixation. Anyone who had seen his childhood would know why MJ would've wanted a book like that.
Yeah, it all sounds so warped:
>Boys Will Be Boys included pictures of boys, many naked, in various non-sexual activities such as climbing a tree or sitting on a bench. The book had an inscription reading, "To Michael: From your fan. Love XXXOOO Rhonda – 1983, Chicago."[57] Another book, The Boy: A Photographic Essay was inscribed, "Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys' faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. MJ." The book contained pictures of boys in various situations by different photographers, including pictures taken during the filming of the 1963 Lord of the Flies movie and showed the boys on the set, usually clothed but sometimes nude, playing in the sand, reading comic books, and having pillow fights.[58][59] The only book depicting male sex acts was a rare out-of-print book called A Sexual Study of Man which featured many images of adult men engaged in all kinds of homosexual intercourse which the prosecution admitted they could not tell if Jackson had opened.[57]
Others are books like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Room-Play-Simen-Johan/dp/1931885095/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Photo of Spence was of him as a toddler/baby.
And the teenage sex videos thing was because it was from websites like varsitysluts and collegewhores or whatever.
It compiles all the books together so people can actually see for themselves what this incriminating evidence supposedly was. Like Sneddon doesn't mention the inscription's in the books at all in this list, and those inscriptions pretty much give the game away as to the supposed sinister perversions behind them.
I mean I've seen Redditor's create a fuss over this book, presumably because they didn't know what it was:
http://www.amazon.com/Room-Play-Simen-Johan/dp/1931885095/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
I don't even think the prosecution bothered showing the Room to Play book to juror's as it seems more of a book on how kids are made to grow up too soon and a critique on the adultation of children, not a fixation. Anyone who had seen his childhood would know why MJ would've wanted a book like that.
Oh and the photo of Spence was of him as a baby/toddler
I can't tell if anyone has already posted this, but there's an interesting book called The Material World that does the same thing with families around the globe. Each family poses for a photo with all of their possessions and pets. It was published in the mid-90's and it was eye-opening to me when I was a kid.
In a similar vein, there is a book called <em>Hungry Planet</em> that has pictures of 30 families from around the world and the food that they eat in one week. Time has the pictures online here.
which in turns is sourced from http://www.amazon.com/Hungry-Planet-What-World-Eats/dp/0984074422/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278139071&sr=1-1
In any case, it's a good book that covers way more than just what the time article covered.
Let me recommend the actual book, which includes facts such as calorie intake, family income, and country overweight percentage. The book describes the daily life of the families, their expectations and general outlook on life.