The best Popular Psychology Testing & Measurement books: Reddit reviews

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Check out the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. It has lots of information on being twice exceptional. The author also wrote a shorter article here, which is more focused on misdiagnosis.

Musings of an Aspie is a good blog and the author, Cynthia Kim, has written a book about the diagnostic process: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I

I linked to the UK Amazon because the look inside preview has more pages. I haven't read the whole thing but in the preview it looks like she does a good job of demystifying the diagnostic criteria.

In terms of female presentation, I relate more to what Cynthia Kim says than Tania Marshall.

A bit late, but I think Musings of an Aspie is a great blog for those who are seeking to relate the DSM criteria to real life. I also looked at the preview on Amazon of her book 'I think I might be autistic' which goes into the same thing - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I I haven't read the whole thing but even the preview was helpful. She is a late-diagnosed woman and has really explored the diagnostic criteria and her own experiences of going through diagnosis.

Good luck with your efforts to explore this. I hope that it helps you to unravel things and come to a better place.

Note it is typical 8 Cognitive Functions stuff. The specific writter in this case is Heidi Priebe (author of the ENFP survival guide) but you can find similar stuff from many other writers who specialize in the 8 cognitive function model of MBTI.

Here is a link.

https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/12/how-each-cognitive-function-manifests-based-on-its-position-in-your-stacking/

Also since you are concerned with how your boyfriend deals with stress this will be a helpful book which is all about MBTI and stress.

https://www.amazon.com/Was-That-Really-Me-Personality/dp/0891061703

For when you are stressed there are 8 different style of what is stressing you most out, for we use our 1st and 4th functions for energy and self regulation and an EN_P's stress out is slightly different than an IS_Js which is different than an IN_Js and so on.

 

 

But I repeat before this is not just MBTI stuff but also other stuff and learning ways to externalize the internal stress is very helpful. Aka maybe a more productive use of your boyfriends time is stress management techniques / books / therapy.

Personality Type: An Owners Manual

This is a book, not an online source, but it's the best resource I've read. It has profiles on each type as well as very in-depth descriptions of the different functions, and it helped me move beyond the "profile" sort of typing where you just try to match someone's personality as a whole to those prefabricated profiles to actually understanding how functions work and how they might express themselves differently in people's behaviour. It's a good investment IMO.

It certainly brings to mind Romans 12:6-8, "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us . . . . ," which incidently was the inspiration for the title of Isabel Briggs Myers and Peter B. Myers' treatise on the psychology of personality types.

There’s a fantastic book written by an expert in the field that you can get here

https://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-That-Matters-Stuart-Ritchie/dp/1444791877?ots=1&ascsubtag=[]vx[p]11487223[t]w[r]cnbc.com[d]M

The bad faith argument that IQ tests are only good for white people is nonsense. If that were the case, whites would score on average higher. Why is a different race and culture scoring higher? The argument just doesn’t make any sense.

IQ tests are still widely used in psychometrics, which is one of the best replicated subfields of psychology, and are well respected by the relevant researchers. One kind of evidence that intelligence is a singular thing is that cognitive scores from different kinds of tests correlate highly with each other. The multiple intelligences theory of Gardner, on the other hand, has no evidence to support it and intelligence researchers do not generally believes it. IQ also correlates with a ton of stuff we care about, e.g., academic success, job performance, income, life expectancy, and a ton of other stuff. If you'd like to learn more, Intelligence: All That Matters is a very good non-technical introduction.

P.S. I haven't watched Shaun's video (yet), but I think it's better practice to cite scientific criticisms if they are available.

I recommend the book "I think I Might Be Autistic" as it gives a lot of examples for each of the criteria and helped me start to figure out what counts under what. Playing with your hair is definitely a form of stimming and counts under repetitive behavior.

'General intelligence' and IQ are well validated:

There is a strange disconnect between the scientific consensus and the public mind on intelligence testing. Just mention IQ testing in polite company, and you'll sternly be informed that IQ tests don't measure anything "real", and only reflect how good you are at doing IQ tests; that they ignore important traits like "emotional intelligence" and "multiple intelligences"; and that those who are interested in IQ testing must be elitists, or maybe something more sinister.

Yet the scientific evidence is clear: IQ tests are extraordinarily useful. IQ scores are related to a huge variety of important life outcomes like educational success, income, and even life expectancy, and biological studies have shown they are genetically influenced and linked to measures of the brain. Studies of intelligence and IQ are regularly published in the world's top scientific journals.

https://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-That-Matters-Stuart-Ritchie/dp/1444791877

Lived experience, mom experience, and licensed psychologist here (but not YOUR psychologist).

This was the most helpful starting point resource on this for me: https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435

You need to look into twice exceptionality (2E). My daughter was diagnosed as gifted, and it masked her ADHD-PI in her neuro-psych test. Puzzles keep her interest because she enjoys the challenge, and the signs of inattentiveness weren't showing up on a puzzle-based assessment. Neither does a messy room or constantly lost items at school, insomnia or lack of impulse control/self-regulation. Giftedness does not disappear in adulthood, so I would suspect yours is a similar situation. I found this book useful: https://smile.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435/

I’m an INTP, and I’m married to an ESFJ, and it’s perfect. I mean, it’s perfect for ME, and it always was, but he had to learn to to appreciate me (lol).

I’m pretty sure I read in this book (link below) that an ESFJ is an ideal partner for an INTP.

Gifts Differing: Understanding... https://www.amazon.com/dp/089106074X?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I found the other book. I haven;t looked thorugh it yet.

https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435

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https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults-dp-1935067435/dp/1935067435/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

This book might be helpful (there is a previous edition used for less $$) The author has several other books on 'gifted' kids that are helpful.

There is a strong correlation between the need for deep convos/getting bored by small talk with higher iq (120 up). I just learned that many "typical" adhd symptoms are similiar to feelings/thoughts and symptoms people with higher iq experience. Also the so called scanner personality. More than 15% of the population have a iq higher than 115, so its not that outlandish to think about it.

Maybe take a look into the topic. I found this book really helpful https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435

There's a book called I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults by Cynthia Kim. Would that help you out a bit?

My favorite book (because it's a mix of actionable info and theory and a great overview of everything) is Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self Discovery, by Riso and Hudson: https://www.amazon.com/Personality-Types-Using-Enneagram-Self-Discovery/dp/0395798671

I've upvoted nearly all the comments, because everyone is correct. You did not receive professional advice or assessment, and what you were told is wholly inaccurate.

To further your self-exploration, I highly recommend Cynthia Kim's book, I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults

I've linked the Kindle version, which is only $5 USD. I recommend this book because it guides you through the DSM-V criteria for ASD diagnosis and gives lots of real-life examples of how people--but especially high-masking women--may have fulfilled the criteria. It helps you think outside the standard, sometimes stereotypical responses or criteria, and it may help you learn that certain thought patterns, silent/internalized behaviors (e.g. echolalia but only inside your mind; motions that have been minimized to be unnoticeable to othere are still stims) may be manifestations of autism, especially in the aggregate.

If you are in a country not following the DSM-V for diagnosis, I still highly recommend the book. It really helps provide insight into hidden/quieted/masked/internalized behaviors and traits (i.e. what is often associated with a "feminine presentation"), AND it connects them with the major diagnostic criteria. That connection is what should speak to a competent psychologist or psychiatrist.

I can highly recommend the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults. It has a long chapter on ASD and giftedness.

There is the very good book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a very long chapter on giftedness and Aspergers. I can really recommend reading this book, it is very in depth both in differentiating between the two conditions, but also what do to when both conditions indeed are present.

There is a very good book on the topic of giftedness & autism, called Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. There is a big overlap between the symptoms of autism/Asperger's and the symptoms of gifted people being in an environment that does not fit their needs.

The authors state that it can be very difficult to find out whether a person is gifted, or is autistic, or both. They recommend viewing the observed symptoms of autism under the lense of whether they are dependent on a certain environment. When the symptoms disappear when the person is in an environment more suited to gifted people, it is unlikely the person is autistic.

I must say, the fact that some people are more intelligent than others is an inconvenient truth, but it is very researched and proven. The same is true for IQ tests, even though it is not always easy to interpret the results, IQ scores say quite a lot about people.

There are too many errors here to correct and the examples are...grossly misguided, to say the least. I recommend reading Isabel Briggs Myers' book on MBTI.

https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Differing-Understanding-Personality-Type/dp/089106074X/ref=sr\_1\_1?keywords=gifts+differing&qid=1642465788&s=books&sprefix=gifts+diff%2Cstripbooks%2C153&sr=1-1

Some have differing degrees and areas they are affected.

My social and "talent" areas are the most heavily affected, while my systemizing habits are relatively mild.

Everyone is different. If you want to get technical , check out the DSM diagnostic criteria for ASD

If you are a young adult/adult and want a better explanation of all the criteria and how it manifests , I would recommend the book "I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults"

There is the book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults, which has a long chapter on differentiating ADHD and giftedness. I don't remember exactly what the authors write about ADHD, but in general they stress that problems from ADHD (and other mental health issues) should appear in all contexts. So a child being very twitchy and unruly in many different environments should be evaluated for ADHD, while a child being easily distracted and rebellious in school, but not at home should be evaluated for what leads to such behaviour in the school environment.

Concerning your coffee and adderall experiences, I think that is just the standard reaction to those drugs. Coffee makes you more active by turning up your heart rate, and making you more active in several psychological ways. This is exactly why many people drink coffee. And since you seem to not be used to caffeine, your reaction must have been quite strong. The same is true for adderall. It gets you in a sort of hyperfocus mode. This is why people abuse it for studying for exams etc.

If you have ADHD, it should show up in your life in places like work or university. If your only problem is procrastinating on projects, you should look at why you procrastinate on them. Tired from working or studying? Too much time spend on social media/TV/whatever? And if you think coffee makes you a more functional person, just start drinking it more. BTW, if a person with ADHD would drink a double espresso without caffeine tolerance, they would probably experience a very unpleasant episode of having too much energy and too little focus.

Popping in to say I’m considering the same! I also read I Think I Might Be Autistic: A Guide to Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis and Self-Discovery for Adults by Cynthia Kim (of Musings of an Aspie) which recommended neuropsychological testing. I’m still deciding if I want to go the neuropsych route, but I imagine that might be more consistent in different countries? (Could totally be making this up)

This book helped me a lot,

https://www.amazon.com/Think-Might-Autistic-Diagnosis-Self-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00DAHF48I

Also read "22 Things a woman with Aspergers Wants Her Partner to Know"

I strongly recommend this book, it summarizes the whole debate and then proceeds to review the evidence. It is a collection on essays by different scientists, and many conclude that many claims in the Bell Curve were exaggerated (the bell curve is one of the main books discussing genetics and IQ and the BW gap). It also explains how heritability is estimated, what it means, how people misunderstand it etc... I particularly liked Clark Glymour's essay on statistical methods in the social sciences, which invalidates not only the Bell Curve but much of social science !

https://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-Genes-Success-Scientists-Statistics/dp/0387949860/ref=tmm\_pap\_swatch\_0?\_encoding=UTF8&qid=1634229755&sr=8-1

Concerning giftedness evaluation: In Germany, it is possible for a (child) psychologist to diagnose someone as gifted without a formal IQ test. This possibility exists for people like your son, who cannot be IQ tested for some reason. The evaluation would then look at your sons advanced abilities in school, his sensoric quirks, etc. I could imagine that something similar exists in the Netherlands. You could try finding out which universities do research on gifted people, they often have some kind of center for gifted people attached. And even if not, the researches still might be able to help in some way.

Concerning giftedness and ASD: The book Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults is a very informative read on the subject. The authors lay out what has to be taken into account for differentiating between giftedness masquerading as ASD and giftedness in combination with ASD. They stress that any disorder such as ASD should be seen in all environments (in school and at home, etc.), otherwise it has to be taken into account that the problems stem from the gifted child in conflict with the environment, not from a disorder. They also say that they consider an ASD diagnosis only correct if the gifted person is not able to have a socially appropriate relationship with anyone. Which I guess doesn't mesh with the more fluid view of ASD of the last few years. But I think it is relevant to mention it, since you say your son is sociable, but he knows no boundaries. I think it's reasonable to consider that this might be because he is highly energetic and wants to satisfy his curiousity.

I voted no because this sounds like unhealthy 3 behavior to me. Certainly there can be disintegration to 9 for healthy and unhealthy 3s. However, these patterns sound like they have been around for a long while and maybe initially were a stress response but are seeping into behavioral patterns. This fits prototypical unhealthy 3 behavior: "liked the idea of people looking up to me" just for the sake of it. All 3s, and maybe everyone, wants to be looked up to and respected but being respected just for the fun of it and especially in an area you dont care about at all isn't healthy behavior. It is not aligned with yourself. You feel that, and that is why you are thinking about this conflict. Hiding and manipulating the real you and your real interests to fit in OR stand out isnt good for any person of any number. Be yourself!!! Keep doing the work.

https://www.amazon.com/Personality-Types-Using-Enneagram-Self-Discovery/dp/0395798671 this book has a FANTASTIC break down of health in types. If you are up for it, I recommend reading 3 and whatever wing you are and seeing where you lie on the health level.

Its been a hard year and I am also dealing with my own stress and disintegration responses. I hope this helps!