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Rightly or wrongly, Israel sees a nuclear-armed Iran as an existential threat. In the face of their possible destruction, the question of the morality of killing scientists that personally don't deserve it doesn't really enter into their calculus.
Somewhat uniquely among countries thought of as "Western", Israel has long had targeted killing programs in the Mossad, Shin Bet, and earlier intelligence agencies which they've used for various purposes, starting with vengeance for the Holocaust on escaped Nazi war criminals, and continuing to the present day as we see in Iran.
I don't think you can look at this and understand it without understanding the mindset of the Israeli people and leadership. Not 75 years ago a concerted effort was made to wipe their people from the face of the earth, and that atrocity was followed up by immediate and continuous aggression from Arab and other surrounding powers through the early years of the Israeli state. Surrounded on all sides by powers that at various times have outweighed the Israelis militarily, they have taken whatever actions they thought necessary to continue their existence. I'd argue they want too far many times, but you can't question their purpose: to survive.
If you want to read more on this, a really good recent book on the history of these programs is Rise and Kill First by Ronen Bergman, who talked with many of the leaders of the intelligence agencies that carried out such actions.
>Apparently female infanticide was rampant in pre-Islamic Arabia
Arabia in pre-Islamic was a diversity place. Remember there was 360 idols of different Gods before Mo smashed them all. It depended on which tribal but in some woman had more right than man. Khadijah, Mo's first wife was a rich widow and Mo had to work for her until her death. You can know more about pre-Islamic Arabia by reading this book.
If you liked Weiss, his book with Hassan Hassan ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror is a pretty deep dive in the history and formation within the larger context. Also apparently 64% off right now on Amazon.
>So let’s say a bunch of Chinese people bought up all the houses in your neighborhood, then they decided this isn’t America anymore it’s China,
This is not how Israel was re-established. There was no country there, no autonomy, no sovereign. If there was an internationally recognized Palestinian-Arab country with defined borders, a military, economy, etc and all of a sudden Jews from the diaspora arrived and began kicking people out of their homes and declared "this is our new country now," I would agree with you.
The fact that you're using this incredibly stupid analogy tells me everything I need to know about your lack of understanding on the most basic facts of Israel's establishment. I suggest trying to find a way to read this if you care about learning about this conflict: https://www.amazon.ca/History-Modern-Middle-East/dp/081334980X
You're too far gone to continue entertaining a discussion with. I recommend taking a look at the sources I linked or at the very least purchasing a peer reviewed textbook on the subject. I recommend this one written by a past Professor of mine:
https://www.amazon.ca/History-Modern-Middle-East/dp/081334980X
It is not the book he suggested, but I really like "Ottoman Centuries" for a super detailed flow of what was going on within the empire from its beginnings until its end.
https://smile.amazon.com/Ottoman-Centuries-Lord-Kinross/dp/0688080936
Survivors: An Oral History Of The Armenian Genocide
Incredible book. The genocide through first-hand stories of survivors.
also Armenian Golgotha: A Memoir of the Armenian Genocide a remarkable account by an individual
no one is disputing that. what's being disputed is the false narrative you're pushing as well as your sources. Here are some comparatively better sources & a better starting point for those interested.
Maybe stories would give you an idea about the life back then I dont know of there is translations for "Antara Ibn Shaddad" "war of kharoos" "the Basus war" or "zeer salem" And you have this book on amazon but I know nothing about it https://www.amazon.com/dp/0415195357/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_0AXK4G5H8476C33A7YH3
Hey there. Definitely check out Ronen Bergman's Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations .
I recommend an awesome film: Munich; and a terrifying book: Rise First and Kill.
I took a Modern History of the Middle East overview class in college, and the Cleveland book already recommended was our main textbook for the course.
We also read From the Holy Mountain: A Journey Among the Christians of the Middle East, which is not an objective overview, but rather an engaging travel narrative through the region which helped to make many of the complex historical nuances and religious conflicts much more 'real' and understandable for me.
> You don't seem to understand the subtle difference between Islam and Islamism
Which do you think is acceptable?
Here is the source for you...
I am currently reading Six Days of War. Oren writes extensively not only on the war itself, but on the factors leading to it as well (pg. 1-61 covers post WWII to May 1967, pg. 61-170 covers the direct lead-up [May 1967], pg. 170-305 covers the war itself, and the last 20 pages kind of wrap it up) .
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Flags-The-Rise-ISIS/dp/0385538219
Pretty good book that'll explain the current situation of ours to you in fairly concise points.
The Middle East didn't all of a sudden start "hating" on the US. Iran happened in 1979. US bombs weren't remotely as frequent then as they are now. It is a long history and to think that if we just stop bombing targets that are dangers to civil society that they'll somehow start loving us is ridiculous. It'll just give a broader fertile ground for recruits.
Again, Iraq was under control in 2011 and the first vote in that country's history took place. The problem was the sectarian conflicts all around that region. The neighbouring country is fucking Iran that'd do anything to wreck this initiative by the US on their border. The fact that Obama left that country with literally no troops behind was a predicted disaster. Who would Maliki choose - USA on the other side of the world who just left him with no oversight or the neighbouring Shia state that has sold him out on an unmeddled cause.
What you need is leadership. Not this leading from behind mentality. I can't believe people in Europe still believe this is the way to go.
I just listened to the audiobook of former Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren's book: Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East
Clearly not an impartial author, but it still does a pretty great job of recounting the events leading up to and even following the war - including all of the international diplomacy aspects. Would recommend
Lord Kinross, if you're interested in Turkish history, from what I heard his Ataturk book is excellent and I'm currently really enjoying his work on the Ottoman Empire
My source is the book Six Days of War, but here's a link that also lists the Israeli Air Force order of battle on the eve of the Six-Day War:
http://zionism-israel.com/dic/Operation_Focus.htm
(The Dassault Mirage III, Super Mystere, Mystere IVA, Vautour II, Ouragan, and Fouga Magister were all French-built.)