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So setting up shouldn’t be a problem if you don’t mind asking for a hand—and you shouldn’t, anyone will be glad to help. As far as putting it down, here’s what my group has done that has saved our canopies every year:
- Stake them down well!
- Attach leg(s) to cooler(s) with cord.
- Lower them all the way down before leaving for the venue.
FYI... security has been known to confiscate metal stakes. So if you bring them, then bring plastic ones as a backup. And MAKE SURE to leave none in the ground for the safety of the horses. Plastic mallet will help!
Stakes for the canopy.. the good but expensive ones, the huuuge cheap ones,
Edit: True though, lowering the canopy might be a challenge. I take my height for granted. Might have to call on neighbors more than once!
You might be best off getting a set of poles that are usually designed for supporting tipi/pyramid tents as they'll be very strong and potentially very light/packable.
I did a quick search on Amazon and these poles might just be perfect for you. They're just slightly out of your budget, but I think you get a ton of adjustability and pretty decent quality for your money.
I've been using some ti sheppard hooks like these: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B001OPKGAO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_YTVA9C47XVW5WNDWJ2QZ
The trick is not to just pick and spot and smash them in. You find an angle and most times I push them in by hand
. Also tying off to rocks on mountains and felled logs on the coast helps if you have some nearby.
The wind the first couple of days was pretty constant 15-20mph, maybe gusting up to 30-40mph? I don't think it got anywhere near 68mph though, that's probably rough for any tent.
The wind changed direction quite a bit so there's no point worrying about orientation. We had a more sheltered spot (075) sort of behind some smaller dunes, maybe 100 feet back from the fence but still on the beach. I don't know what the group camping spots are like but I would definitely stay a bit back from the edge of the campground if possible. Some of the further back spots like 078 or 072 are very sheltered and private but still super close to the water.
We used big sand stakes like these. I also had some extra line to tie these out as deadman anchors but never needed to, we never had one pull out due to wind. I had the tent fully staked and all 6 guylines attached. We also had a Kelly Discovery Shade set up with the same stakes and also had no problems.
Overall it was an absolutely amazing experience and one we hope to repeat many times in the future!
I’ve tried a couple of the generic y stakes from Amazon...the “TNH” ones weren’t bad, but they weren’t amazing either. Just straight-sided, cheap aluminum. They held up well enough that I’m about to donate them to a friend’s kids’ scout troop along with all the other stakes that have accumulated over time. I wouldn’t trust them to hold up to being pounded in with a rock or mallet, but they get the job done as long as the terrain isn’t very rocky.
TNH Outdoors 8X Aluminum Tri-Beam Tent Stakes and Bag - Made for Camping - Support A Start Up https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D2VHN5I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RV6-EbHMMN67F
For just $9 (only $5 extra if you choose the minis) more for a six-piece set of Groundhogs, though, I’d pay the extra any day, as long as I had it to spare. The MSR also have three hook notches on the head instead of the single notch you see on a lot of the cheaper ones, and they’re slightly spiraled at the ends to go in easier.
MSR Groundhog Tent Stake Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ZC5KLG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GW6-EbVBDCY2K
I use one of these https://luxe-hiking-gear.com/products/batwing-group-lightweight-tarp
Combined with a set of Green Elephant Telescoping Tarp Poles | Adjustable Tent Poles for Tarp Set of 2 | Portable & Lightweight Aluminum Tent Poles Replacement https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072K1B91Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_GKYGJX46B45H9MNBNC19?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Makes an excellent rainfly to cover both the tent and give you a nice area underneath to hang out because it’s so large, and plenty of space for shade and airflow.
Thanks for posting. Great setup, especially the DIY custom sun shade with afforadable amazon poles Bravo!
This is the best style of stake. Ever since i swapped to these nail type stakes, i have hd no problems with bending or breaking
It’s finicky. but not “hard”.. one thing I do is use these if you’re going to be using platforms a lot.. makes it easy to drop them threw the crack and sinch your guylines tight
10pcs Fishbone Tent Stakes Pegs... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SN211SD?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Something like this will do the job for a tent, canvas, or shiftpod. I've used them on all three for years. Mallet/hammer to put in, twist out with your multitool pliers:
https://www.amazon.com/Eurmax-Galvanized-Non-Rust-Camping-10pc-Pack/dp/B075QK5XNC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa
>In my experience I've found that tents that require being staked out >for structural reasons, tent to be more difficult to setup on tent >platforms like we often find in the Whites at the tentsights . A little >creativity can typically solve that issue.
These "platform stakes" and some cordage and you're good to go.
Thank you, I will look into the Ez Up Brand. All of them should be water proof right? I am guessing I would need these and hammer to secure tightly?
https://www.amazon.com/Eurmax-Galvanized-Non-Rust-Camping-10pc-Pack/dp/B075QK5XNC/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&keywords=Tent%2BStakes&qid=1653339252&s=outdoor-recreation&sr=1-3&ts_id=3402011&th=1
I used these stakes in the Great Sand Dunes and they were great. It's some knockoff amazon brand. If you want something more name brand they look about the same as the REI snow stakes or MSR blizzard. Ogrmar Aluminum Tent Stakes for Camping in Snow and Sand Tent Boating Hiking Backpacking Picnic Shelter Shade Canopy Outdoor Activity Pack of 6 (Orange, 6Pcs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07583YV6J/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_JWDT28G9YBW0NPZNDEMH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I know you said you’re an experienced camper, but if you’ve never camped on the sand, make sure you get a good set of sand stakes. https://www.amazon.com/Ogrmar-Aluminum-Camping-Backpacking-Activity/dp/B07583YV6J/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=YF79OFRSB62V&keywords=sand+stakes&qid=1649505093&sprefix=sand+stakes%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-3
Ohhh me too! I have the screen house.
There's a few different options. There's Orange Screw or similar. A number of different options if you search sand stakes on an outdoors website, generally your looking for a 10-12" stake for sand and either a screw it u- shape (so of it pulls towards your tent the u fills with the sand, not butt towards the tent).
You can potentially use rocks (or rock stacks depending on size), downed trees limbs (if not big they're better when buried), etc as well.
> Extra tent stakes
can't be said enough. I grabbed these for last year-
Our giant and not wind ready 12x14 tent and 12x12 canopy didn't move an inch during the storms, was never even worried
It's generally considered bad to drive things like nails in to an existing platform.
Some platforms will already have nails or hooks installed on the sides.
Fishbone tent stakes are designed to go between the slats of a platform.
You can also tie off the tent to objects around the platform or make an above ground version of a dead mans anchor.
Something like this (definitely take them with you): 10pcs Fishbone Tent Stakes Pegs Lengthen Deck Nail Anchor Stopper Guyline Tensioner Camping Accessories(Red) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SN211SD/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_K9EGPNHCTRHTS1BX9R9Z
Taking extra line as you mentioned is a good idea. Use some good stakes, full size groundhogs is what was carrying.
I remember passing by one campground that looked very exposed, maybe it was Grande (?). It's been several years so I don't remember that clearly. Didn't have much wind on the north part of the O, most of the wind was along the southwest portion.
The problem I had setting up in the wind is that the gusts that came every 30 seconds or so would whip the partially set up tent around and loosen the lines in the lineloc tensioners. I had to add a slippery half hitch after each adjustment to lock the line in place so I could move on to the next line. After getting the tent fully set up and tight tight tight it was fine for the night.
Enjoy! It's a great experience!
>Also, any tips for pitching a tent on a platform?
Buy some of these. While the last tent platform I stayed at had eyehooks on the side for guying out, you'll be able to use them between the boards if needed. For a cheap and generic looking as they are, turns out they were perfect. https://i.imgur.com/xOWpipS.jpg
Oh, these are very interesting. I've never camped in the sand before. This was on hard ground when I forced them down, but that method might've worked just as well.
Yeah, I love this tent, too. This was in Texas where the ground was hard.
These groundhogs are highly recommended by many people. I just saw someone recommend these instead, which seem like the same thing for less than half the price. I'm probably buying one or the other.
I use these groundhog knockoffs for a little less than $1/stake. I’ve bent one or two, but they certainly hold up better than the shepherds hook style that come with most tents.
I like the spirit of this, so I applaud being creative and repurposing everyday items to enjoy camping without spending a fortune on the latest needlessly fancy gear. BUT, you can find decent tent stakes for a dollar already, so I'm not sure I get the point here. I think Y-shaped stakes hold better than round ones, so they don't need to be as long. Here is a set of aluminum 7-inch Y-stakes for $0.75 each.
If you can't just tie a line to the same S-hooks you put your hammock on, you could bring some kind of pole to use instead. Trekking poles would work, or you could use a regular 'ol stick.
Alternatively Amazon sells all sorts of telescoping poles you could use as well, like these: https://www.amazon.com/Paria-Outdoor-Products-Adjustable-Poles/dp/B01MDJKV0E/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=tarp+pole&qid=1560514694&s=gateway&sr=8-4
Just tie each pole down with two guylines and then secure it to a pole on the other side of your stand.
Something else to consider is getting a tarp and a couple of extendable poles. I got these when they were on sale for $25 (Amazon Link). Setup is fairly easy and just have to use guy ropes on each corner to hold it down, but takes up significantly less space than the 10x10 folding one. I usually attach one side to my roof rack, but I have 4 poles so I can move it around and make it stand alone. All-in was just under $100 so about the same cost as a bigger canopy.
I would not use that stand to hang a tarp, no. Way too short.
I suggest you get two telescoping tarp poles like these and hang up your tarp over your hammock stand.
We got a light blocking tarp that we put above our tent to keep it cooler and darker in the morning. I hold it up with the poles I linked to below. It requires a little work to setup and tear down. I had to basically use guy wire on all four sides to keep it from falling over.
I got four of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072K1B91Q
These are super useful, but not required, for setting up tents on wooden platforms: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SN211SD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00
I use these. Live in Arizona and most of the ground I camp on is pretty hard. I've bashed them with rocks many times and so far haven't had any failures.
edit: Just noticed that they only seem to have the XL size for sale at that link right now. The ones I got were the regular size.