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Do not edit out the room tone on the dialogue, it is part of the dialogue. You should be looking for clean chunks of tone, using it to fill across unwanted sounds and for smoothing edits. Sounds like you need a good read up on dialogue editing, and it doesn't get better than this book.
They covered it up and it came out in Those Guys Have All The Fun in 2011.
https://www.amazon.com/Those-Guys-Have-All-Fun/dp/1609410750
Deadspin basically lived off the stories in that book for like 6 months.
Side note: I really recommend the book Previously on X-Men
There was a bunch of crazy behind the scenes stuff happening when they were making it.
I wanted to share, but I don't want to give away too much. You should really support the team and buy the book yourself! It's a little over $20 USD on Amazon right now! https://www.amazon.com/BoJack-Horseman-Art-Before-Horse/dp/1419727737
The girl who got mauled by a lion worked in the costume department of GOT, the lead costume designer was Michelle Clapton I believe. HBO published a book documenting the costumes on GOT and it was glorious
Game of Thrones: The Costumes, the official book from Season 1 to Season 8
If you are into learning more about the costumes and their representations, I highly recommend this book. The costumes tell their own story Game of Thrones: The Costumes, the official book from Season 1 to Season 8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1683835301/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_0BHSHBH5NAXW820GSTES
I bought my partner this book since he loves the show. I recommend it if you love the show. It shows the process and art behind it.
The Art Before the Horse is an excellent read. Does a deep dive into every single facet of creating the show, including memos about the pilot to and from Netflix, thoughts about character design and development and multiple examples of how each characters look evolved. Kind of a must have.
Would like to give a shout-out to the book Previously on X-Men which I'm currently reading. It's a behind-the-scenes account of the development and production of the show by the showrunner, with plenty of pictures of production documents and other interest tidbits in it. The hardcover is a little pricey, so I just requested my local library buy a copy of it, which they did.
Maybe not a spot on suggestion, but this book is amazing for understanding how to arrange different shots for different effects and moods, as well as sequencing
See if you can get a hold of a copy of this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Film-Directing-Shot-Visualizing-Productions/dp/0941188108
Your local library might have it, or can get it from interlibrary loan.
Film school is an option, and some smaller state schools have film programs. What that ends up being is making films on a smaller scale and learning to collaborate with other students. Napoleon Dynamite started out as a film school project and the crew that worked on it got funding and expanded it.
You can also get started by working as a production assistant on a film set to get some experience. You can work up, but being a director is only one of the jobs on the set and realistically you'll likely end up doing something else if your plan is just to get on set and work up. A lot of directors come up through cinematography (filming/working the camera).
Good luck.
Seems legit to me. I’d also recommend the book Film Directing Shot by Shot, by Steven Katz which contains a big chunk of knowledge on storyboarding among other things. https://www.amazon.com/Film-Directing-Shot-Visualizing-Productions/dp/0941188108/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1655945800&refinements=p_27%3ASteven+Katz&s=books&sr=1-2
My power went out last night so I finally had the chance to pick up Bojack Horseman The Art Before the Horse.
It was filled with just incredible stories, I highly recommend it
This is without a doubt the best resource for learning dialogue editing. Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures: A Guide to the Invisible Art https://www.amazon.com/dp/0415828171/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_W14S3G5SR40CN88VGBM6
Thanks, I am thinking of buying it. If you know about it, do you recommend this one or the previous book?
https://www.amazon.com/Previously-X-Men-Animated-Eric-Lewald/dp/0998866326/135-7501343-8096951?psc=1
> There is a reference to the episode in The Making of Star Trek that discusses the apprehension the network had and the positive fan letters that were received from Southern fans that allayed a lot of the concern.
How interesting! Like OP, I would have assumed there would be a furor over this. I may have to pick up The Making of Star Trek myself; sounds like there's still a fair amount I don't know about the production of TOS.
I agree with you on that, but there are some funny stories about the original Star Trek series in the book "The Making of Star Trek". They thought that the automatic sliding doors were really futuristic - until they were contacted by some guy who was building a condo in Florida wanting to know how they got their doors to work so well, as the ones he had installed were very slow. They wrote him back to let him know they actually had people standing behind the wall pulling them open on cue, and that they didn't realize automatic doors already existed!
It's a very entertaining book, if you get a chance to read it. It pretty much ignores any interpersonal drama and focuses on how the show was made on a tiny budget, and all of the funny stuff that happened.
Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures goes over best standard practices, and should be a must read for anyone in both production and post production sound. The author also has a few videos online related to his book.
LinkedIn Learning/Lynda.com has a course under the Pro Tools Audio for Video section that is also super helpful.
Get this book: Film Directing Shot by Shot: Visualizing from Concept to Screen "A complete catalogue of motion picture techniques for filmmakers. It concentrates on the 'storytelling' school of filmmaking, utilizing the work of the great stylists who established the versatile vocabulary of technique that has dominated the movies since 1915. This graphic approach includes comparisons of style by interpreting a 'model script', created for the book, in storyboard form."
I need TWOW.
You and me both. I zoomed in on the pic of Brienne's armor on Amazon to see if there were any hidden symbols or clues to the story. And there might be, but I can't post the screen shot I took of the close-up. Here's the link if you're interested. Oathkeeper's belt has some metal plaques with crescent moon & wing designs. Could be the black bat of House Whent, but it could be dragons too.
Michele Clapton, the costume designer, put a lot of details with meaning in each costume. Sansa’s are my favorites. She’s about to release a book if you’re interested.
Available wherever books are sold. Also here.
Loved this show so much as a kid. If you want the behind the scenes, making of stuff from the folks who made the show, I recommend the book Previously on X-Men, which I had a blast reading.
And you know you read the title in Cyclops' voice.
Check out Shot by Shot, it's an older book but I learned a lot back in '05, when I got into storyboards, from this book. The Star Wars art-of books, Jurassic Park, etc are great.
It has all the scripts. Character write ups. Prop stuff. Lots of pictures. Shit it even has some of the money
The "Bojack Horseman 2019 calendar" placeholder page has been on Amazon since September. Now that it's been revealed, I'm a bit disappointed this seems to be a calendar based on the BoJack Horseman: The Art Before the Horse (which releases a month before), and not situational original art from the show (new drawings, storyboards, etc).
That's the only one I've read. https://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Trek-Stephen-Whitfield/dp/0345340191
Looks like this one is a good read, I'll have to check it out https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Star-Trek-Real-Story/dp/0671896288/ref=pd_cp_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0671896288&pd_rd_r=TX4208A0J0DAW7NKAHNE&pd_rd_w=fCPVu&pd_rd_wg=qaLUt&psc=1&refRID=TX4208A0J0DAW7NKAHNE
You can find the book on Amazon for about $30. Well worth the price if you're a fan of the show. Sadly no new extras on the 15th anniversary edition other then packaging and whatnot.
"There isn't suddenly a gap in the center because ambience is still being provided be L/R."
Actually there is a gap when you only fill LR and not in C. This might not be heard in a small editing room, but as soon as you are watching it in cinema, you can't rely on that. Those speakers are several meters apart, so depending on where you sit, you'll hear those gaps. I recently watched a movie who had exactly that issue (not paying attention to filling the center channel between dialogue) and it sounded awful and just wrong.
"Sure I could fill those gaps in the center channel, but why cover with a L/R ambience again later, too? It's a double ambience with the same purpose." Filling gaps is a technical thing/requirement. Creating ambiences is a creative decision: most of the time you want to create something different than what you heard on set. And if you are ever asked to deliver a M&E mix, you'll have to fill the center channel anyway (though this is more part of creating ambiences).
Don't want to offend you, but you might want to read John Purcell's book: https://www.amazon.com/Dialogue-Editing-Motion-Pictures-Invisible/dp/0415828171