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What about a hammock on a stand? They collapse down small, but still very comfortable for sleeping (source: have slept in hammock on a stand).
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I am almost the exact size as you, I'm a little taller. I use a Warbonnet Blackbird XLC with the standard suspension. Being as tall as you are 11 foot is a must for a comfortable night's sleep. When camping there would be no room for second person in the Blackbird.
While hanging out in the back yard I have a Vivere hammock hooked to tree and metal clothes line post. My wife and I lay in it every nice day with no problems. Here's a link to Amazon and it includes a stand. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_EmXRzb2P4D9PV
I would discourage you from using 4x4s. Before I got my clothes line post I tried to use a 4x4 and it snapped off at the ground and hit me in the head. It hurt quite a bit and I felt like an asshole.
Mr. smells got me this last year and this, along with a different gift, has earned him the title of Best Gift Giver. I don’t love the look of a standing hammock, but it’s so comfy and cozy and super easy to put together and take apart for winter. It’s the best. The color he got was out of stock for a bit, and I think a few may be now, but there are a ton of color options.
I've been sleeping in this hammock since 2014: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXN3HEU
I use a goose down pillow and a thin sleeping bag. I tore my back muscle around the same time and sleeping in my hammock is the only thing that helps it. If you have it hung properly and sleep in it at an angle, then you'll lay almost flat, and well supported.
I use to toss and turn in bed, but now I sleep through the night.
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Vivere Double Cotton Hammock with Space Saving Steel Stand, Tropical (450 lb Capacity - Premium Carry Bag Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_P07BG5RZR6MPYERVH4VH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the hammock stand I use outside, I’m sure it would also work indoors if you have the space. 🙃 the hammock itself lasted a few years of being outside all year. It finally got to that brittle crackly moldy stage so I replaced just the hammock with another one from the same brand.
If you are going to get the stand only, I’d recommend getting your hammock out of storage first and measuring it to make sure it fits. I tried buying a cheaper hammock separately for my stand and it was too short so I returned it and purchased the same hammock that comes with the stand.
In case you're wondering, it's this bad boy:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCB8M/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_MVR8R98W9S55D8440VQW
I have a backup camping hammock I'm using until my new ones get here.
Depending on the style of hammock, that’s not a risk. The two times I’ve done it were in something like this-
https://www.amazon.com/Vivere-Double-Hammock-Space-Saving-Tropical/dp/B004YJCP7O
Really hard to fall out of! If you’re thinking about the style where there are bars at each end holding the cloth flat, that could be…interesting.
That makes a lot of sense. For me, the game changer was realizing that the cocoon style ones are much easier to get in and out of, and much more comfortable as well. Specifically, I got this one because of the first review, which is from a 450 pound lady who was kind enough to post multiple pics of her and her similarly large friends enjoying it.
Vivere Double Cotton Hammock with Space Saving Steel Stand, Tropical (450 lb Capacity - Premium Carry Bag Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_V1QPRKABPNDKNYGPXK3C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
But your worries and concerns are totally valid as well, I just wanted to suggest this as a possible option in case you’d only ever been on a rigid style hammock before.
I have this freestanding hammock stand which is amazing and has held up through 3yrs of being outside year-round as well as 5 camping festivals!
I've had to replace the hammock itself due to weather damage but the frame is good as new.
I am tall, 6'3", and I too have a problem with "gathered end" hammocks. I sleep in my main (daily as my bad) hammock at an angle, which is proper, but hammocks that gather at the ends don't allow it to change shape at the ends for the head and feet. For reference, this is what I sleep in: (taken from my order history)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXN3HEU
I do have a nylon hammock in the back of my car for emergencies, but I've never been able to lay in it properly, comfortably. (At least 30° off center) Though it may be shorter than your hammocks, I don't know.
I went the cheap amazon route and bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJCP7O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had it for a little over a year and it holds my 6'2" 300lb body very comfortably. Many a summer nap had in the hammock
I slept on this for quite some time, and I would 100% go back to it as a bed replacement. The only downside is it can get a bit chilly in winter (was fine with a sleeping bag, though I ended up going back to a bed because I love using heated mattress cover). If you adjust the angle you sleep at, you can flatten it until it feels comfortable.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJCP7O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I love it, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you need something small.
I bought the stand and the hammock together off amazon.
Vivere Double Cotton Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LfomFb8874GT7
I love it, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you need something small.
I bought the stand and the hammock together off amazon.
Vivere Double Cotton Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LfomFb8874GT7
Honestly, I would toss the bed and buy a hammock stand + hammock. Something like this, or maybe this stand with any double-width Brazilian style hammock.
I once spent a year sleeping in a hammock and it was honestly the best sleep I've ever had. If you sleep the right way (at an angle: not aligned with the long axis of the hammock, but about 45 degrees off from it), the hammock flattens out beneath you and supports your back perfectly. Plus you're hanging, so the unlevel floor would not matter. It's great.
Weird strategy, I know.
this is the one I bought I'm pretty sure. very comfy happy hammocking
[I have been sleeping on the vivere hammock and stand bought off amazon for 80 bucks since 2012. Luckily my wife is understanding of how uncomfortable the bed is for me so I still sleep in it, mostly in the summer though.
I have one of these. It holds up to 450 pounds, apparently. I don’t think you can buy just the stand without the hammock, though.
Also, that one so many people link to, the Vivere 9’ Brazilian with a “space saving stand” actually says the total length is 130”, which is almost 11 feet. So, maybe that is the 11 footer? Here’s the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_UUr0CbVR2GQK5
Yes, please post the link for the Amazon 12 ft hammock stand. I have a denim cotton hammock and a parachute nylon hammock; I prefer the nylon one because it's more stretchy and conforms to my body better. I'm half your weight, however, so I'm guessing that the heavier someone is, the less stretchable the material they require. Cotton is more durable and retains its form better than nylon, though.
I might buy this one: https://www.amazon.ca/Vivere-BRAZ400-Brazilian-Hammock-Natural/dp/B007J01RIS/ref=sr_1_24?keywords=hammock&qid=1552068923&s=gateway&sr=8-24
I bought this five years ago. I've slept in it every night since then, including taking it camping. It hasn't stretched in any way that I've noticed.
> Those patio stands are really made with spreader-bar hammocks in mind, which are generally hung more taut than gathered-end hammocks.
I think a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AXN3HG8 is a good choice. If you're cash tight and want something for inside, this is a good $50 solution. Pairing it with a $40 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0167IYGH6 underquilt works well.
I have a friend who has back issues and I gave him that hammock after testing it out and being pretty pleased with it. He's been full-timing it for what must be around 6 months now and loves it. I've been full timing for ~8 years.
The reason I would dissuade you from getting a dual function hammock is primarily because you'll need a lot more equipment to sleep outside and it can add up. I think it's better to get a great bang for the buck for inside if that's your primary use case.
I've used this one for quite a while and can recommend it. But any other Brazilian hammock I'd recommend over a parachute one for nightly sleep, they're warmer.
I also have one I bought off Amazon and it is absolutely amazing.
I think you would have a tough time finding a material that is strong enough, cheap enough to beat this price point:
Sometime people screw an i-hook into a post then hang the hammock from that assuming you have a stable post/stud that can handle the weight. Otherwise that stand/hammock from amazon is pretty good and you can take it apart. I have one and really like it.
I use a really old floppy pillow.
It's got some heft to it, maybe 2-4 lb's? But it handles like a wet noodle.
I'll sleep on my side or on my back.
> I've slept on my back before, and that does wonders for my neck (especially with no pillow at all) but in recent years I will assuredly snore in this position and wake myself up. Maybe I've gained too much weight and I should exercise more.
Never a bad idea.
> I'm thinking of maybe buying two marital bedroom sex swings and hanging them off the ceiling facing each other and just sticking my shoulders through one and my hips through another to simulate weightlessness.
That's..err.. a lot of work for essentially amounts to a hammock you can't move around.
I'm guessing we can link stuff that is not in a normal gifting range? Since you said you'd gift "stuff" to the winners, I'm taking that to mean we can share the expensive shit that you need on your list too, because we all need to dream.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though, and we're supposed to link reasonable stuff.
But if I'm correct, you need this hammock on your list because just look at it. Who DOESN'T need one of those in their life?
This one. I cannot recall if I have the 12' or 9' frame, but it is quite big for my house. My new house has a covered deck, so...