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TOGGLER SNAPTOGGLE Drywall Anchor with Included Bolts for 1/4-20 Fastener Size; Holds 80 pounds Each in 1/2-in Drywall by TOGGLER (12 Pack) [link]
Make sure what ever you are hanging is not heavier than the rating on the anchor, but they’re pretty strong. We even use them for handrails on occasion
i do this professionally and if its under construction and the walls are open we sometimes use plywood to span the studs with the ply wood nailed or screwed to the steel stud or a couple pieces of wood behind the plywood and next to stud nailed or screwed to both. this allows you to have wood behind the mount wherever you put it, but we only bother when we are mounting 60lb+ tvs and the wall is open. i use togglers if going through a backer board which you can tell by drilling a small hole first to test depth.
if the drywalls already up use a stud finder and use toggler bolts if steel studs and 1/4 inch lag screws for wood.
i suggest using rubber washers and steel washers to prevent tear out of the mount if the mount steel is garbage and prevent vibrations loosening screw/bolt. every time a door slams or someone jumps or drops something heavy on the above floor the walls and things attached to walls vibrate.
I got a pack of these since all the studs in my apartment are metal and I just didn't want to deal with that
and they are freaking amazing. Consider these (or something similar, though I've found these to be sturdy and convenient) as an alternative to using studs.
(though honestly, depending on how big your speakers are you can probably get away with something much simpler like typical plastic anchors)
Try Snaptoggles. The heavy duty ones can hold in excess of 200+ pounds in 1/2" drywall.
Here's the ones I used
These are the ones I TOGGLER SNAPTOGGLE Drywall Anchor with Included Bolts for 1/4-20 Fastener Size; Holds 80 pounds Each in 1/2-in Drywall by TOGGLER (12 Pack) [link]
It was also slightly too big for the side groove, but once the head passes the sides (with slight force) it fits the screw hole perfectly.
For hollow cinder block, togglers are great. I do school maintenance and when wedge anchors pull out (which they tend to do over time when things are being wiggled our pulled on) I replace them with these. If I have to install anything load-bearing I will also use these. I like tapcons for things like static loads where there isn't much pulling/tugging, etc..
That mount seems super inconvenient, most have horizontal slots so you can hit studs.
It’s not really the tensile strength of the toggle you’re worried about, it’s the shear strength and torque on the drywall when the tv is weighting it or a kid knocks into it. Can you screw a strip of plywood into the studs and stick your mount on that?
It would probably be fine in the drywall assuming you’ve got something like this. But I would sleep better with a stud or two in the mix.
Yup. The toggle bolts or anchors can carry quite a bit of weight. The larger they are, the more weight they can take. If you have undamaged (not previously opened and then repaired) drywall, you can use these pretty safely. I still prefer securing to studs if possible, but I have hung several televisions including a 75 inch TV (about 85 pounds) using four of these without any issue.
These are basically the same thing but I like these a lot of you can find the threading that works for you. Amazon Link
A quick Google search found me these anchors. I would recommend trying to drill and install the anchor through both the drywall and plaster if you can. The extra length, and anchoring to the back of the plaster, should make them much sturdier.
Wife and I just got a floating shelf from Ikea. I believe this to be it:
We're not using it for a PC. But it is pretty dang sturdy. We put it behind the sleeper sofa in our basement, for my parents' cpap machines when they visited a couple weeks ago.
If you're not good at hitting studs, like me, get you a set of these babies:
I keep boxes of these in my house at all times because I absolutely SUCK at finding studs in walls (even with a stud finder). One of those things will hold 80 pounds in drywall. Plenty for a PC.
I joke about the "Household Approved Vendors List" but my best recommendation is to research who you would call in a pinch before said pinch is happening and have the info handy. When your sewer line is backed up isn't the time to go through reviews and research DPOR licenses, and picking a contractor in a rush is a recipe for picking someone bad.
Also, if you have plaster walls, purchase a magnet (a stud finder will not work) and some of these: https://www.amazon.com/12-TOGGLER-SNAPTOGGLE-included-Fastener/dp/B01IU6HG48 for when you want to hang anything up
No problem! I basically used this and this.
Somewhat of a rigged solution, but it’s solid.
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This guy has some pretty good videos and here is one on drywall anchors
I would consider using the 'toggler snaptoggler'
Then consider some wall mount brackets
There are heavy duty drywall anchors that you can use which doesn't have to be attached to a stud. Obviously it's better if you attach it directly to a stud but with the innovative anchors that we have today, these anchor screws are more than capable of holding MOST flat screen TV's.
I've used them to hang some extremely heavy floating shelves that have had more weight than them than a flat-screen TV and it has been able to hold more than 100 lbs confidently.
Drill into the hollow part and use an anchor like this:
Yes. I would use a french cleat and the toggle anchors. Are you using this style of toggle anchors? https://www.amazon.com/12-TOGGLER-SNAPTOGGLE-included-Fastener/dp/B01IU6HG48/ They're the best!
> toggle bolts
make sure you get this style as they are the best/strongest:
why not just mount it directly to the drywall then? 3.5lb is nothing and it'd let you place it directly where you want it.
these are crazy strong:
Get a stud finder (lol) and drill into a stud OR use one of these giant fucking SnapToggles.
Big fan of the snap toggles, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IU6HG48 they have a very cool installation technique.
Studs are best, but in a pinch you can probably use these:
I’ve used them to hang small (32”) TVs before in offices with metal studs. Work great.
It's not ideal but at 38lbs it might be ok. To mount in metal studs he really should have used something like this: [link]
Just make sure you can get one stud and then for the other holes, use these snaptoggle anchors.
Not necessarily those, practically every big box DIY store has them. They work great though. Then if you move or take the tv down for some reason, just take the bolt out, nip the plastic clips that hold it up against the inside of the drywall and push it back. Then fill with some mud and call it a day.
Edit: I bought this mount myself:
Has a built in level and multiple "slots" for mounting.
Mount-it! MI-310B-CBL TV Wall Mount Full Motion and Heavy-Duty, Swivels and Tilts, for LCD LED Plasma 32" - 60" Screens, 175 lb Weight Capacity, 6 Ft. HDMI Cable Included, Black (MI-310B) [link]
So I discovered the studs in our apartment are 48" apart and appear to be steel. Steel studs are hollow and the metal is pretty thin, so I would rather not drill a simple screw in to them. I could drill a 1/2" hole and insert a toggle, but I would need to drill dead center in to the metal studs which are only 1 1/2" across, so that is quite risky.
I am strongly considering using these toggles in the drywall the entire way across. Also since both end units will essentially sit flush on top of the towers, the towers should absorb some of the load. The middle unit is pretty light so I'm not overly concerned about that.
What do you think?
Depends on what your complex allows. Usually drill holes aren't an issue since they can be pretty easily filled later. When I mounted my TV, I found a stud close enough to the center of where I wanted it hung, drilled 2 into that, then drilled 2 holes on the sides and used two of these things for each side since the studs were too far. Used something similar to this For reference.
12 Pieces TOGGLER SNAPTOGGLE Drywall Anchor with included bolts for 1/4-20 Fastener size; holds 80 pounds each by TOGGLER
I am surprised I haven’t seen a mention of wall toggles here.
Zip toggles like this(note, amazon link) are my go-to when hitting a stud is out of the question. You can get them in different weight ratings, for different applications, and it sits pretty flush to the wall. Better in every respect than drywall anchors, excepting price - but at ~$2 per, I’ll pay that for piece of mind (I’ve never had a toggle fail on me).
The install is super simple, too: Drill a hole (1/2” for the 250lb rated size), put the toggle in, zip it down, snap the excess zip off, then use the provided bolt to secure the object to the wall.
As a disclaimer: no shill zone, the above link was provided for the pics. I have had luck with other toggles as well, so I’m not brand loyal. I think the only difference for for competing fasteners is in the zip/snap action - but if you go the hardware store and ask for wall toggles, they’ll set you up.
Again, this is second only to hitting the stud directly, you should always try that as the first option.
E: wall, not walk
I've had a slot of success mounting TVs, including a plasmas, directly to drywall with heavy duty Toggle Bolts. The bolts are the anchors and use washers under the head of the screw, sandwiching the TV mount. My only concern using them would be if the framing studs that you apparently don't have are too far apart or your drywall is super thin.
And what about this - https://www.amazon.com/12-TOGGLER-SNAPTOGGLE-included-Fastener/dp/B01IU6HG48
I had a lot of luck with these drywall anchors from Amazon.
They let you attach really heavy things directly to the drywall without having to find the studs.