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A nutribullet probably uses blades like a spice grinder or blenders. You’ll get a huge difference in the consistency of the grind using a burr grinder. You can pretty easily get a manual burr grinder from amazon and even the cheap ones will be a lot better than a blade one. The Hario Skerton is on the less expensive side and will definitely be good enough for a french press starting out. Not sure what the price is like in Ireland though.
I usually use a French Press but about a week ago one of my buddies got an Aeropress and I love the coffee that it makes. I still like to use the FP for to get a more full body taste but the Aeropress does a good job of keeping the dust out of the coffee and makes a great middle point between the FP and the Chemex. I just bought one today on Amazon so I would definitely encourage you to buy one and try it for yourself. It makes a great cup of coffee and it's cheaper than a Chemex.
The only question is with the grinder. That grinder is 'for' an Aeropress namely because of the small quantity of beans in can grind. You can certainly use it to grind for anything but if you're going to grind ~56g of beans for 1 Liter for a French Press then I would recommend this one because it can hold more beans. The difference in the grinder capacity is ~20g for the mini and 100g for the link below.
Yeah, totally man. At work I use this Hario Skerton hand grinder . While not as good as the Lido, it's definitely better than a blade grinder. It takes about a minute of cranking to grind for a few cups but it's worth it.
Also, I forgot to mention, a scale is very helpful to measure water and bean weight.
As other people have mentioned - of course - freshly roasted beans are the most important part. Look for a local roaster, I've no doubt there are some in your area.
would this Hario be a decent starting grinder in your opinion?
Stay far away from that blade grinder!!! It's good for spices, not coffee. If you want to keep it cheap, get a hand burr grinder. I've been happy with my Hario Skerton and there's a 3D-printed mod on the front of /r/coffee right now that will improve coarse grind consistency.
I'd honestly stay away from that cheap electric burr grinder too. The Hario is kind of a pain because it's by hand, but you're not buying anything quality for $35 in an electric.
I recently got this and have used it for a few days. Its a little slower than an electric grinder but is so much more quiet. It also gives a great consistent grind. Totally recommend. Pro tip: grind while watching TV and you'll never notice the extra grind time.
I used this grinder for years before caving and getting a way fancier grinder. It treated me well and while it took a while it made me appreciate my coffee more (or I may have just been justifying it more...). Either way I liked it and I still have it. As far as beans went, I went through some dark times in college and never had any money and actually bought like... five lb bags of coffee on Amazon. It wasn't great but it was still better than pre-ground stuff I'd buy at my grocery store so...
Now I buy freshly roasted beans from local roasters and never find cheaper than like 15 bucks per lb but it's way better.
I remember the french press they had at starbucks when i worked there was great. The heavy metal one. I had bought a cheaper one at home, but the grinds would sneak past the plunger, even when properly ground. I might give that a go, although i have a feeling i'm not going to look forward to boiling water each morning for my coffee, and i'm not sure i wanna spend the $$ for an electric kettle also. (At least right now.)
I'm kicking around the idea of maybe just sticking with my at home setup, cause i'm so used to it, and going with an aeropress or french press and a hand grinder to keep at work. That way i'll still have an easy first cup of the day, but at work, (where my only other option is a keurig,) i can have even better coffee.
Yup I would definitely buy whole beans and grind them yourself if you can. Personally, I have this Hario Skerton grinder - I don't necessarily recommend it because it doesn't give a very consistent grind (especially with course grinds) but it was cheap and still much better than a blade grinder. It is kind of a pain to grind with for cold brew since it takes a lot of work to grind enough for a large batch.
The Baratza Encore is probably the most recommended grinder I see. It's significantly more expensive than what I have, but it is electric (no manual labor) and the grind is more consistent. I would definitely recommend something electric if you are going to be making a large batch for the office.
Another alternative is to go to a grocery store or similar that sells whole beans. I usually get .5 or 1 lb of beans, have them grind it, then start the batch when I get home.
Don't forget that spices and herbs of even the same plant can have tremendously different flavors, so don't stick to just one. Hell, even fresh and dried herbs have different flavors and properties.
I used to use a mortar and pestle for my whole spices, but I don't use it too often so I just co-opt one of my burl coffee grinders. You can adjust the coarseness and a ceramic burl grinder can run through the dish washer a few times to get out any funky smells and flavors. It also works great on coffee.
Ceramic Burl Coffee Grinder. Adjustable, the whole thing breaks down into parts and they can all run through the dishwasher to get out flavors and smells.
I've never used the grinders at the store, but IMHO I'd take freshly ground coffee over pre-ground coffee, regardless of how good the grinder is. The reason people are more critical of blade grinders (which I'm guessing is what you have?) is because they make more fines and the grinds aren't as consistent. In general that'll make for a more bitter cup, but I find the aeropress takes a lot of the bitterness out of the coffee anyways. If you find you aren't happy with the quality of the grind, you can try sifting out the fines or get a relatively inexpensive burr grinder like this one, which is what I use.
Burr grinders can be quite inexpensive, especially if you don't make coffee often, like in your case.
It claims it has correct burrs but I don't know if it's a good hand grinder at all.
I have seen the Hario hand grinder receiving a lot of good words.
If I were you (which I'm not :-) I'd ask about which hand grinder is bets suitable for you / your machine / where you live etc.
I've had this for over five years and I love it. I feel manly using it, as I must earn my daily espresso with the grind. It's a great daily ritual.
This grinder (the slim you listed is probably great too), and anything from Counter Culture that says something along the flavor pallet of "Earthy". If he does not like Ethiopian he does not want something acidic most likely. Any brand like Crema, Barista Parlor, Counter Culture, thats from South America would probably interest him. I could get more complex but those will be easy sites to order from.
This is the right answer! I love the aeropress. I'll only add that you can get a hand-grinder that isn't that expensive, and it is a great complement to the Aeropress. You can really get close to that espresso taste and texture with a finer grind and an Aeropress. (But above comment is right, you could totally skip it and still have a really enjoyable imitation latte.)
Another option, depending on budget, is to get a hand-crank burr grinder.
You'll get much better and more consistent results that you would with a blade grinder, without the awful noise.
Here's a good one.
What kind of coffee did you drink? I find HUGE differences in quality actually exist between brands. Starbucks.. it really is a last resort for me. They seem to almost burn/over-roast their beans. Peet's, that's the good stuff. Also, try brewing your own using a cheap $2 melita cone pour-over setup. Buy a decent hand operated burr grinder like this one for next-level bean juice.
Hmm, maybe the amazon page was misleading and the "new" and old are the same grinder from 2 sellers at different prices. Here's the "old":
Notice near the bottom there's a link that says "There is a newer model of this item". I clicked that and saw a similar product for 2x the price so figured it was an internal upgrade or something. I'm sure you can figure this out better than I can, so if you say they're the same I'll believe you.
There isn't. Like with spices, coffee loses much of its flavour and aroma after it's ground. You can buy a decent hand grinder for £20.
Look for local roasters in your area. This ensures you get the freshest-roasted coffee possible. Look for Roasted On dates instead of Best before printed on the bag. The latter is meaningless and is just a way for the roaster to hide the beans' true freshness.
An Aeropress is a fantastic tool, regardless of what coffee you're using. Since it allows you to control pretty much all of the brewing variables (coffee & water quantity, grind size, water temp, extraction time & pressure) you can experiment with different recipes to see what works for you. Ultimately it's up to what kind of mouthfeel/cup you like best, although a Chemex with an Able Kone is currently my favourite non-espresso brew method.
Again, it's totally up to your preferences. I tend towards African coffees because I really like the berry/fruity, occasionally tea-like profiles of some Kenyans and Ethiopians, though this isn't a universal flavour profile. Central & South Americans tend towards more "traditional" flavours like roasted nuts, chocolate, and caramel. Roast level is also hugely preferential; some people prefer darker roasts so they can enjoy their coffee with milk; others like light roasts for the higher acidity.
Thanks for the reply! I edited my above post just after your reply, with what you said being the case, would you still recommend me going for this grinder if I go that route? Some reviews stated that it was hard getting a coarser grind with this because of how it was made, but I saw a "hack" in a review where they replace the handle with a 6m connector nut and used a drill on a low setting to grind the beans, which sounds hilarious to me. My above post was edited to include a coffee dripper and server, as well.
I only plan on brewing one or two cups at a time, so I'm unsure of whether I'd want a carafe. Would you recommend one for someone who has no idea what they're doing? I've forgotten that I'd end up needing a scale as well if I go for a maker that requires practice, so that'd have to be added to the cost.
Also, since you've stated that a gooseneck kettle isn't completely necessary, would you recommend that I go ahead and grab a coffee dripper like I've linked above, a french press and a grinder and then go from there?
Sorry for completely bombarding you with questions, by the way. I'm going to be getting a substantial amount of free coffee beans on Sunday and I'm curious on the best way to use them up. The only coffee maker in the house is a Keurig and I'd really like to step my game up and hopefully introduce the others to better coffee.
I have that one.
>the hissing part adds a lot of bitterness so that's why you do not want it in your cup
instantly better coffee! Thank you!
Whoops, just assumed you were American haha. Are you referring to the Skerton? If so, the Skerton has a slight edge on the Mini Mill, but they're roughly comparable. In that case it may very well be the grinder that's holding you back. If you can, I'd spring for a Baratza Virtuoso (electric) or LIDO 3/E/E-T (manual). The Virtuoso is a significant upgrade from the Hario and also noticeably better than the cheaper Baratza Encore. It has the same burrs as the more expensive Preciso. The LIDO is better than all of these, but can take quite a bit of force to turn compared to your current grinder, so do your research and watch some videos before you make a commitment to 20-second arm workouts every morning...
You won't be able to get a good electric grinder for that price -- they start at closer to £100+. The electric grinders in your price range are blade grinders, and I'd rather use preground than a blade grinder. Blade grinders give an incredibly inconsistent grind, which will lead to coffee that's really poorly extracted (it'll probably be far too sour, bitter, or both).
Fresh grinding should definitely give you a better flavor. For that price you should get a hand-operated burr grinder, e.g. [link]
I've never used either the Javapresse or any other manual grinder, but the Hario Skerton is usually brought up when people ask about manual grinders, and it's a little closer in price to the Javapresse (~$35). Just another one to think about.
This is the one I have, although it seems to be a bit more expensive than I thought. Setting the grind is a little inconvenient on it though.
I use one of these: [link] as it's not electric (marginally lower electrical bill) and it doesn't consume any/much counter space. Also I only ever grind enough coffee for what I'm using at that moment.
I don't hate cheap electric grinders ~as much~ as a lot of the users on this sub. I think you can get something that will make adequately coarse grinds for a french press for around $25-$30. However, the Hario Skerton is fairly popular on this sub as a cheap grinder.
If you truly want to put money into a grinder, I would start with a Baratza Encore. When you start going cheaper than the Baratza (ie a Capresso 560) you start getting inconsistent grinds. At that point I'd rather just save my money and keep using the hand grinder or cheap blade grinder.
yea I use this one
the jist is that freshly ground beans taste better than preground beans
burr grinders produce a more consistent grind than blenders that use blades
The biggest issue with grinders is consistency. I can not overstate the significance of consistency. In general, there is no other issue. Sure, reliability, dosing, speed, etc. can be considerations, but these are like deciding whether to buy a pickup truck or a sedan. Consistency is the difference between walking with a nail in your foot or driving a well maintained car. If you are on a budget, get the Hario/Kyocera Skeleton/Skerton. Be sure to find a lid from a plastic cup that fits the top and cut a hole in it so the beans don't fly out while you are grinding. Your next upgrade can be the purchase of a 6mm hex nut and an electric drill to replace the hand crank.
I know diy isn't always about saving money, but I think it would be incredibly difficult to diy a better hand grinder than this one for cheaper : [link]
A more interesting project would be to take the skerton and mod it to be driven by a motor. It isn't too much trouble to hand grind one cup's worth of beans, but if you are having company it can get tedious fast.