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So, this here is the HOTAS I use for Elite Dangerous:
By any metric, it is a more complicated machine than what you are selling. It has joysticks, adjustable springs, it has a bunch of programmable buttons, it's awesome. And most importantly, it's only fifty dollars.
Now, the way you've streamlined the input for multiple keys is pretty cool, but anyone with a gaming mouse or keyboard can do the same, albeit without that cool interface.
Now, I'm not hating on your product. It's cool as fuck, and if I saw it on Amazon for 75 dollars I'd snatch it right up, but your pricing is out of control.
The Thrustmaster T-flight hotas is a very good and solid stick. I have tried many and also own the more expensive Saitek X52, and yet prefer the T-flight for civilian flying. The black and red PC/PS3 version can be picked up much cheaper than the PC/PS4 version. A good idea if you don’t plan on using it for PS4 anyway. This thing is rock solid in terms of build, and for me is a very stable general aviation sim stick.
If its military flying then you can’t go wrong with this either, but the X52 is definitely more suited to that and a great stick also.
I have one of these that I used to use for Elite Dangerous for $35 shipped. If you're interested, I can provide a timestamp. I'll just have to find the original box, which I have somewhere...
I'm using the Thrustmaster Hotas X. For $50, it's a good introduction. Even after using it for the past few months, I don't plan to upgrade any time soon. Sure, it doesn't have all of the button options and the coolest things... but it's still a fantastic investment for me.
I started with KB&M and got somewhat good at flying, but when I switched over to a Hotas.... so much better. If you plan on doing flight sims and don't want to spend too much, buy this.
Thrustmaster T-Flight is $35 on Amazon at the moment. That's the cheapest you'll ever find one. It's a basic unit but for the price, it's excellent (I've been using mine for a few months now) considering everything else starts at three figures.
I'm told it's absolutely unreal on the Oculus but I don't have one to confirm... Apparently the only real problem is the low resolution of the Oculus makes the UI a bit hard to read.
It's an amazing game, though. So much fun if you like that kind of thing.
 Huh, well it's $41 now. It was $35 yesterday. I guess that was a Cyber Monday thing.
I use the Hotas X from Thrustmaster (they make the Warthog).
It's got a ton of buttons, throttle, stick, slider on throttle which is awesome for strafing, and it's usually under 50 bucks for you American chaps.
The game is very playable on M&K or gamepad, but I don't deny that it is much more fun with a HOTAS. I use a CH setup, but apparently the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X is a perfectly fine stick at a reasonable price. I don't play with heard tracking and don't think I'm much the worse for it, but I've considered getting a TrackIR when the bank account permits. I imagine once you start using it you won't want to go back though.
Holy hell what's going on with the pricing over your way? (just looked at the amazon link above)
£40 in the UK (compared to your $130/£84)
Ya, I wanted pedals as well but couldn't find any for a reasonable price. I'm glad I didn't get pedals though as this setup has really grown on me. I use the left stick twist for up/down(clockwise for up, counter for down).
If I were you I'd buy a cheap joystick just to see if a dual-stick setup is right for you, and if you don't like it no big loss.
If you want a budget HOTAS I've heard really good thing about this one.
Gonna join in the praise for the Thrustmaster HOTAS-X. It's certainly standing me in good stead. It's a bit more expensive than the one you're looking at, but IMO it's worth it for the increased button count and ability to seperate the sticks.
Fantastic bodge, I love it. Wish I'd tried something like that before ditching my old USB stick for a HOTAS.
I take it you don't use the base buttons on the stick much, OP?
GTX 770 2GB
I get around 40-50 fps at HIGH settings (it's the second highest),
but it looks really smooth, unlike most games.
I don't know much about joysticks, but this one looks nice:
If you are talking about the Thrustmaster HOTAS-X setup, just be aware that it may look like a HOTAS setup but it really is (when you actually count the buttons and other controls) not functionally any different from buying a entry level stick like Logitech's 3D Pro or even Thrustmaster's T16000M standalone stick. The only thing that it offers is a enlarged throttle that makes it give the impression of a HOTAS without providing any of the benefits of such a setup.
Like I said before. You gotta be careful with the entry level stick market. Make sure you count buttons, hat switches, and even available axis controls when you are looking at this stuff because sometimes things can look good at first glance but offer no real benefit when examined carefully.
Would this work? [link]
Was possibly thinking about this. Tomorrow I'd just run to a local Bestbuy to pick that up. And I still need to buy elite dangerous lmao. I just want to start playing more flight Sims.
Here you go:
I own it and A LOT of other ED pilots use it.
>You certainly dont need hotas to enjoy this game.
While I agree, if you have the cash, even for a cheapish HOTAS (like the Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS X) it goes a long way toward making whatever ship your in feel like you're in it.
Actually, I did find a $50 stick that has favourable reviews. Problem is, well one it only has 12 buttons. Is that enough? Secondly, I mean, I've already spent $75 on the game (40£ = 75$CAD), is it really worth it?
Pick up one of these to see if you like using a HOTAS first.
If you decide you like it, you can look into something a little beefier. If not, you didn't buy a $300 stick you're never going to use.
I am interested in this. ED is my first flight sim of any kind. Also any chance you could help me with setting up my controls ? I have a flight stick and throttle, but when I go into my settings to set up key-binds it is very overwhelming and I am not sure what is good to have quick access to and what can stay on my keyboard.
Here is my controller.
I was hesitant about spending a lot of money on a HOTAS set up when I first got ED a few months back, ended up going with this guy, picked one up from a guy on kijiji for $30 still in the box, personally love the thing for the price
Flight Simulator X is a good starting point, and you can branch out as you decide what you like in a simulator.
As for hardware and peripherals, absolutely get yourself a HOTAS. The price has been coming back down on the Thrustmaster T-Flight, which is a fantastic setup for the money. If you don't want a setup with a throttle, at least get yourself a good joystick. Depending on how you want to sim, you may make the switch to a yoke, pedals, etc.
I recommend the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X for a cheap, good quality flight stick. I got mine for $40 on newegg.com It looks like it got more expensive there, but it's still $60 on Amazon.
I hear you. I got this one for about $60 with shipping. Still use the keyboard for some functions, which fits nicely in between the throttle and stick.
The Logitech 3D pro I hear is really good as well, and about $30, and some run a two stick setup instead of a throttle. For around $200, I've heard the Saitek X52(also the pro) are amazing, but this was my first buy and was a much better entry level price, for my budget.
I've been using the T-Flight HOTAS X, more or less entirely because I had one lying around for some reason.
It's definitley not a "nice" controller but doesn't feel too cheap- the throttle 'clicks' in the middle and it seems sturdy enough. I've been using it for about three years and it isn't any worse for wear. If Star Citizen becomes worth playing when it's released I might upgrade to the Saitek X-52 (my main complaint with the T-Flight is not enough buttons), but it's too much money at the moment and this does the job.
so much hate for HOTAS's in this thread.
Here's a good cheap one. I don't recommend buying it because if I recommend buying it my comment will be slammed to the bottom.
Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X ( 50$ )
I started with this before moving to a full CH Setup ( 500$ )
Its a great cheap joystick, with everything you would need to start.
If you don't want to spend money for more immersion and easier FA OFF, mouse controls are totally fine too :).
I use the mouse left/right as yaw instead of roll, and set roll to a and d.
You are comparing a $400 Warthog HOTAS to a $50 joystick only. This is beyond apples & oranges. :)
I don't think the Warthog has twist-to-yaw which is super helpful. If you had the Warthog you may find you wanted to add pedals for yaw.
IMHO the best bang for the buck is this Thrustmaster, which DOES have stick and throttle, for $50.
Το Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X
Πιστεύω είναι καλό entry level. Με βόλεψε.
I would suggest the [link] tiny bit more expensive, but well worth it, its a high quality hotas for the price and can cover your basic needs. Its one of the most highly rated hotas's for the price and has loads better quality than any madcatz stuff
I use a $40 joystick/throttle with joystick twist for rudder: [link]
I hand fly patterns and visual approaches, almost all else is autopilot if I'm not trying to get yelled at by the controllers. I have elevator trim mapped on the joystick and almost exclusively fly with the trim when hand flying or else I'm all over the place.
The way I see it the sim is there to teach procedures and ATC work, so I don't care about flying the airplane. And as a new instrument pilot, flying IFR in socal keeps me more than busy enough without even touching the controls.
I literally broke out into a sweat flying a Lear into LAX via an unfamiliar arrival/approach last night on full autopilot.
It may not be popular but I just bought a Thrustmaster T-Flight X HOTAS just for ED and it is GREAT! I know it's entry level but it's solid and has a great feel to it:
It's also just $39.99 for amazon prime members.
That's too bad, I'm sorry yours died!
This one is about 3 years old I think, and seems to be fine. It was used heavily before I got it (the Rift and this joystick were given to me by my bro-in-law cuz he's got better stuff), and I'm using it heavily now, so it very well may die pretty soon. It's been good for me so far; at least much much better than using a 360 controller alone.
I'd love to get a fancier setup, and I might do so soon. What do ya think of this one?
I am thinking about snagging that, but I dunno about the button placements. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually though.
Yes, but get yourself one of these to go with it. Good sale on a HOTAS.
I think it sucks with a gamepad. There's a good deal on a Thrustmaster HOTAS on amazon right now.
Any recommendations for a cheap/good value for money HOTAS joystick?
This is the top search result, it's advertised for Windows and PS3, is it just the best/go-to/most popular option?
How would One of these fare? Thrustmaster is one of if not the best makers of joysticks. Ten dollars more than a 3D pro, and comes with a detachable throttle setup.
No need for Lotto
Seriously, those are cheaper than the game. No need to save too long to get them.
May want to check this out...good beginners HOTAS.Works really well with Elite.
This one is probably the best you're going to get for sub $100. Every button map you find for this setup for Elite Dangerous is going to have at least one or two 'shift' button modifying triggers. So thruster up/down becomes landing gear/cargo scoop in the map I linked above. The truth of the matter is that it just doesn't have enough buttons for Elite Dangerous if you're trying to get a lot of dedicated triggers, buttons, toggles for everything.
That's not to say you don't get used to it. I enjoy using this and it feels sturdy, fits my desk and while I can afford a nicer HOTAS like the X52 or the X55, I didn't really feel like dropping the coin on it. I got it on Amazon for really cheap and I don't have any complaints for it yet.
When you save the comment it should pop up in your reddit.com/saved on whatever account you're logged in on. You could always just bookmark the links. I've been doing that in a separate folder for a lot of useful Elite Dangerous links I find on the sub.
I'm not going to argue with that. I got the x55 for about 200. So, it's a little pricey but not unexpectedly so. Most of the cheap throttles are paired with a cheap Joystick. Like the Thrustmaster T-Flight. When you start looking at individually sold throttles they go way up in price because it's a niche market.
If you really just want something cheap, I would suggest buying a cheap combo and ditching the joystick.
consider getting this one if money is tight, cheap and very good.
If you're short on the cash, this is one of the best for the price [link]. I use it and i'm only about 2 buttons short
You should definitely use a joystick. I just bought the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS: [link]
For $34, you can't beat that - and you get the throttle and 9 programmable buttons, plus the hat and the toggle on the throttle. It works great in-game since you can program it with the options in the game. I'm very happy with it.
Next options are in the $150-$400 range, so there's that...
It would have to be local (in Austin) and priced against Amazon's $33. I don't want you to feel like I'm lowballing you, due to Amazon's sale. $25-35ish?
well, it's rather fun, you have a throttle and joystick, feels more like you are in a cockpit. (i know a lot of people swearing on the keyboard and mouse) if you really want to try, you could buy the cheap hotas X one, by whoever made it, and if you dont like it, am sure many here on ED reddit wants one(inluding me, i got the muhc more expensive saitek X52, so if i visit parents and take my laptop and want to play elite i dont want to take X52 with me, need to get a hotas X >_>)
T flight hotas X [link]
I know you don't wanna hear it, but the Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS X is $38.99
Also XBox360 controller is perfectly viable.
Hope you can get your keyboard issue fixed till then.
Mouse and Keyboard yes. I really wanted to play it on a controller because it was more intuitive for me, but mouse and keyboard just perform much better.
HOTAS specifically is a "Hands On Throttle And Stick" set up, where you have a joystick and a throttle. This is a pretty highly recommended budget one and is the one I have ordered:
I've been using the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X for the past year to play Elite Dangerous.
It hasn't got all of the bells and whistles of more expensive models, but that's kinda the point.
Construction is good and I haven't had any problems over the past year.
If you'd want to buy new at a low price point today, it will get the job done.
cough 8350 runs the game on 1080p/very high cough only costs like $150 cough
Also, if you're dead set on a HOTAS, this is a very decent starter that's super cheap. [link]
It was for £30 yesterday on amazon.co.uk
Thrustmaster T Flight
Bought it and will try it today, it has awesome reviews.
ED plays just fine with KB&M, though a HOTAS is more fun IMO.
You don't need to spend that much on a HOTAS to start. The Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X is a good unit, but it's only $40, so it's an inexpensive way to find out if you like playing the game with a HOTAS before dropping a lot of money.
If you're looking to see if you'd like a HOTAS. This is a pretty good starter one:
Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick [link]
Simple, cheap, and has enough buttons if you do combos (i.e. Using a button like the alt or cntrl key).
Obviously if you want to spend more, they're are ones of higher quality and more functionality, but for the price, it's pretty solid.
Some people swear by the x52 saitek, but if you're just interested in trying out a decent hotas for ED, and don't want to drop big cash on it, then you could pick up a [link]
I started playing last March. I have a bit over 200 hours in the game. It is very unstructured and a bit hard for new players to pick up. I never got into trading, but I earned all my credits (approx 300 million) through bounty hunting.
And playing with a mouse+keyboard was a bit difficult, so I bought a HOTAS. Xbox controls are not bad if you want to stick with a controller.
You could wait for a Steam Sale. Also, I thought I heard the price was getting dropped soon.
Well, T-Flights are out of the question for me since I have tested three of them, brand new, and all of them had huge deadzones that made them unusable. (we are talking about this one, right?)
A lot of people say to swap the mouse X axis to yaw a la Freelancer rather than the default roll.
I personally found the default more sensible, given the fact that yaw in this game, unlike Freelancer, is very slow (and thus is relegated to the keyboard), so you end up doing roll-then-pitch to orient the ship except for precision stuff like landing, etc. and therefore it makes more sense to have the primary axes on the main control, but each to their own. Try it both ways and see which you like.
As for stick, the Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS X is an excellent unit, especially for the price. I have personally used one for the past 4 months and am satisfied with it.
I use this. It's cheap, it works, and it doesn't feel like it'll snap using it. I actually really like the thing.
> Thrustmaster HOTAS X for around $100
You can get that one for at least half the price, like here on Amazon!
At the T16000's price point I'd suggest the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X. The throttle's a bit weird with the detent at 50%, but is otherwise a great stick, and having the separate throttle is loads better than having to keep my left hand at the base of my right.
im using the thrustmaster x, its cheap and reliable... have to get a little creative to get all the buttons bound, but using the 5-7 buttons on the throttle and a direction on the hat you can get pretty far. Cheap way to see if you like the throttle, a stick and keyboard is pretty close though
Thanks for the suggestion, I am concerned about the lack of separation of the throttle affecting ergonomics. I am wondering how this compares to the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X [link]
But I wouldn't consider spending $130 for higher quality dropping big money considering how amazing ED is in VR.
Check out this entry-level HOTAS:
That's what I used to get started and it worked very well, you just need to take some time keybinding and set up a modifier-button system to unlock more potential keybinds. Look into the Voice Attack software as well.
I just switched to the x52 Pro a few days ago (HOTAS in the OP), and the main functional differences are that the throttle has a little resistance which makes it easier to make small adjustments to your speed, the joystick doesn't squeak like the HOTAS Flight X, and there are more "hats" (little sticks you can move around with your fingers) which are great for some of ship functions in Elite.
Also the x52 stick is modeled after the in-game stick so it really trips you out in VR to grab your flight stick and feel the buttons and have them match up with exactly what you're seeing.
I agree that if this is a first foray into HOTAS, get the T. Flight HOTAS X
If it isn't a first foray then it depends on how much you want to spend, CH products are great, but most dot like their looks and every piece of kit has some disadvantages so you need to know a bit about what you are looking for.
Ignore that the link says PlayStation 3, it's for PC. That's just Amazon's weird link. This is what you need and is incredibly affordable. It was recommended to me, and I'll happily recommend to you, now that I have it.
oh yea, bit of a brainfart. What do you guys think about this? [link]
itd be a better buy over the logitech ?
Also I havent received my 1000 UEC yet from my package, is that normal?
I'd get a Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X. Great little setup for $50.
The pictures don't show it, but it splits in the center so you can space them wider on your desk.
I was actually just looking at this and thinking how it is cheap and highly rated. I could use it for other games too. Thanks for the tip!
How is this one as a starter to test things out?? HOTAS
And I take it that there will be plenty of youtube videos on how to set up a hotas for star citizen?
This is what I use. Although I did start out with just a joystick. I know my buddy likes playing with a mouse but it doesn't feel "right" with anything other than a Hotas or just plain stick set up.
get it on sale. I'd recommend getting the Horizons expansion too but you could wait until the next sale and you'll have plenty of hours of content. Once you try it in VR, you will want to buy a HOTAS. The Thrustmaster X is only $35, works great. I played with an xbox controller for a while and its definitely better than kb/m.
That really depends on how deep you want to get. I suggest you start with some entry-level hotas and see if you like it. you might end up spending thousands on various accessories and you might be happy with just the entry level stuff.
I personally have Thrustmaster hotas x and I'm satisfied, I plan to buy some headtracker soon.
I use this:
TFlight Hotas X
Cheap and does the job since last year october. Nothing special about it, a lot of buttons to be mapped. Throttle could be a little more precise.
If you're looking for a cheap HOTAS this one is the way to go. It's mostly plastic and doesn't have a ton of buttons, but I've had it for ~2 years and it's never failed me for Elite Dangerous or some Freespace 2!
I just bought Horizons and am planning on getting the best experience as possible now that I'm seriously considering getting into this game.
To do that, I'll probably need a hotas. Is the T.Flight Hotas Stick X still considered a good one for its price? I'd get an X52 but I'm pretty short on money right now, so this one will probably have to do. :x
EDIT: Also, I think I read that there's faction missions now. What's the point in factions and what's the difference between the different ones?
Hey CMDRs! for all you mac users out there, does anybody know how this HOTAS works for mac? it says "Plug-n-Play, but nowhere that I can see does it specifically say USB, so I am rather wary....
If you're on a budget...Get one of these...problem solved...I've got about 600 hours on mine and never have to touch the keyboard.
> I also need to sort out a HOTAS solution for the couch, because I was gobsmacked by the few minutes I spent in Elite Dangerous VR.
I got the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick for this. I haven't put in the time I would like into elite dangerous, but the hotas does work.
I use a hotas, so my control scheme is a bit different from just a stick.
the cap you mentioned is the coolie hat, i use that one in its base config for my directional thruster (up down left right). with modifier key 1 i use it for pip management, modifier 2 controls the utility modules (heatsing, chaff, shieldcell)
the L3 key seen there is my targeting button, i think i have again several modifiers for it. on the other side of it is another button which toggles my flight assist. the two firebuttons are just for that, shooting stuff.
R2 and L2 on the thrust-piece are my modifier buttons, 7 is my boost-key which turns into FSD when comined with modifiert 1, and supercruise with 2. 6 is my deploy key, landing gear without modifier, cargo scoop with 1 and weapons with 2. 5 is my "look around" key which enables access to the consoles left and right when combined with the coolie hat. the silver button on the base sets my speed to 75% so that i can fly to a station.
im not even sure what the other buttons do at the moment, think i need to check that later...
overall i can say that modifier keys are a great thing to have (elite supports that on its own, no tools needed)
I see where you are coming from, but it is only really viable if you already have a Steam Controller.
Otherwise you could get a cheap HOTAS setup for $39.
But the Steam Controller may be more versatile than a HOTAS setup.
So, recently picked up a HOTAS. What games in VR (other than Elite Dangerous) can I play with it? Maybe even non-VR games, just need some clue so I can actually get some use out of this thing in the future. Thanks.
I use this for my controls. The stick has a Z axis, so I forgo the pedals. Your 980ti is probably faster than both my 970's so you should run it no problem.
I play pretty much all my FPS games on Xbone rather than my PC. I did get the adapter as it was pretty cheap. It's totally fine to use the Xbone controller for things like just walking around and stuff like that. But it's not usable for really anything else at this point.
If you want something for flight, you should really get a HOTAS. I have the Thrustmaster HOTAS X, which is $39 on Amazon: [link]
This is NOT a great HOTAS. But it's functional and affordable and totally fine to use.
You should also note that the game controllers are completely useless at Star Marine or any other FPS environment. This is due to the fact that the sensitivities on the analog stick are basically broken. It feels like you went into a FPS-game's options, turned the sensitivity to the lowest possible, and then said "nah, this is too sensitive, I'll just hack the game and make it about 50% less sensitive."
I think most people prefer something like a HOTAS like this one. Good price and many seem to like it for its price.
If you're using a VR headset, then DEFINITELY look into getting a HOTAS, will increase immersion 10-fold.
I've heard lots of good things about the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X, pretty cheap. Can be had from Amazon UK for £30: Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Joystick (PC/PS3) [link]
Secondly, if you're struggling finding what to do in game, try a player faction. The best part of this game is getting involved in a community.
If you're interested, look at our player faction, Knights of Karma. You can join on our website, knightsofkarma.com
If you're going to shell out 40-60 dollars for an Xbox controller, you're better off getting a cheaper HOTAS setup. Try the T-Flight HOTAS X. Amazon Link
I've been using that guy for over a year, it's a great first HOTAS. I'll probably buy a nicer one with tax return this year.
I was really overwhelmed with Elite: Dangerous without the Vive at first and gave up pretty quickly, but when I got the Vive I tried again. It sure looks amazing, but rolling (or whatever it's called) the space ship made me slightly dizzy and it was impossible to find all the (or any) keys. I haven't tried with a 360 controller. Oh, and I find it very hard to read the menus (no super-sampling possible with my machine).
Now with the HOTAS (this one: [link]), it all feels very natural and I don't get dizzy anymore at all. I still have no idea how the game works, but flying the space ship itself is really cool. I don't know if that answers your question, though... :)
I had the logitech stick as well, sadly its no where near as good as the thrustmaster, so I highly recommend getting that. You WILL need the M/KB witht the logitech stick, you wont need it with the thrustmaster.
Hands on throttle and stick. It is just an acronym for this: [link]
I use this with my pc and I keep a folding chair up against the wall (my pc is in my living room for VR). I play seated with a 24" piece of shelving I cut. I velcro'ed the controls to the shelf and it makes it easy to move around heavy enough to be stable.
I know some people swear by it, for me it made the already steep learning curve frustrating. I started with a gamepad and moved up to an x52. I do think HOTAS makes the game 10x better, it substantially increases immersion for me. Here's a commonly recommended budget setup [link]
There are a few games you can use it for in combination with VR if flying is your thing :)
Also check out r/elitedangerous and r/hotas
So after playing ED for a while I decided that I want to buy a Hotas, I've been seeing good reviews for this [link]
But I want to know the opinion from the people of this sub-Reddit so, how was your experience with this product?
Edit: Thank out for replying, I will be considering the more expensive options now.
I have Elite but haven't messed with it since August of last year, i used the Thrustmaster T. Flight and had a blast but it seemed to get old fast playing by myself :(
It sounds to me like you need to try out the sims a little bit more and the ports. My recommendation would be to pick up a cheap HOTAS and try Elite Dangerous, or get a cheap steering wheel and try Ansetto Corsa. Also, pig up Doom BFG and try the VR mod.
You really don't have much of a HOTAS option with $60.....
This is about it.
Anything else is either only a joystick or over your budget. Save your money and buy something nice like that T16000M HOTAS. You won't regret it. I had one.
I have the:
and I love it for Elite. I use the Crab Hotas setup from the forums and it runs great. I cant vouch for the other one, but I have zero issues.
I attached mine via velcro adhesives to a 24" long piece of shelving and it is heavy enough to keep it in my lap and is very stable. Makes it easy to store on my desk and move to my lap with the headset still on.
I have this one, it's cheap and works great. It's as cheap as it gets with separate throttle and rudder controls. Makes it way more fun IMO, and is less than $20 more than the Logitech Extreme 3D. Worth it.
Yea I actually learned this game with the Xbox controller when I played on Xbox One. I'm using what's called a HOTAS or Hands on Throttle and Stick. This is a much more immersive way to play as it's actually what your avatar in the game is using as well. Thrust is controlled with the throttle and rotation is controlled with the flight stick. Still a difficult game to learn but if you like space, science, and creating your own stories and experiences it's definitely worth another go. The first HOTAS I owned was a very good entry stick called the Thrustmaster T-Flight X which is about 50 bucks.
Well now I found a $50 flight stick with great reviews so maybe I'll grab that. Does IL2 ever go on sale?
For both regular and space flight sims, I can't recommend a HOTAS enough.
Just about everybody here recommends the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X [non-affiliate link] as the best budget flight stick and throttle out there.
I followed the sub's advice, and it's gotten a heck of a lot of use and feels great in VR for a $50 peripheral.
Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS. Goes for around $50 on Amazon and has enough buttons to properly map almost everything you need. I've been using mine with E: D for two years and it's still going strong.
Edit: Here's a link!