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So why get this over some non-gun branded scale that also measures in grains? It's not like "grain" is some super special gun specific measurement. I guess you can't load a mortar with the amazon one but 300 grains seems like more than enough
1 level US teaspoon of granulated sugar is about 4g, so 1/8th tsp would be about 500mg. How close KSM 66 comes to that really depends on its density compared to granulated sugar - and it also can vary depending on factors like air humidity.
It's really not a good idea to take nootropics if you can't measure accurately. I'd recommend getting a scale like this one: [link]
Get a scale. This one is pretty cheap, and if you can afford drugs you can afford this. A little over $20, and at least in my area it actually has free one shipping with Amazon Prime. Funnily enough the majority of the people I know who have scales have this one.
500/10 = 50 doses. So either you need to be very exacting in measuring volume and divide the 500 into 50 equal volume doses, or you need to get a scale that you can measure 10mg with. Example
Thanks, everything I needed to know! Do you suggest this scale? or would it be too cheap to bet my health on?
Edit: also what forum on bluelight would you find most RC information in?
I bought this one because it was the cheapest i could find
It wont give you a reading until your weight goes over 10 milligrams (because it centers to zero by program so the numbers don't constantly shift) and every time i weigh something and shit it around the little weighing pad it differs by 2-3 milligrams. i use it often and it works for me very well since i never had to weigh anything under 12 milligrams but i wish i got something that i could use more comfortably for weighing nugs. it weights up to 20 grams but even with a small piece of cardboard on top of the weighing pad its bothersome to weigh more than 4 grams in nugs. but its surprisingly accurate once you figure out how to work through its kinks.
Well comparatively speaking, 25mg of 4-AcO-DMT felt a lot stronger than an eighth of shrooms the one time when I took that much. It was more like 4.5g than 3.5g. You'll trip pretty hard if you take that amount. Could be rough. You might want to try a dose of about 15mg before going that high, and then maybe 17mg or 18mg the next time after that if it's not quite enough for you. Personally, 18mg is the highest dose I feel comfortable with, but everybody's different. Like a lot of RC's, it has a steep dose/response curve. I would strongly suggest getting a scale before you mess with this stuff. This one is fairly cheap and works well enough so long as you make sure to weigh your doses at least a couple times. You can measure it out and put them into gel caps for long term storage. No muss, no fuss.
There was a thread on DMT-Nexus in which many members recommended this one: [link]
I agree. Why take a chance? Spend 22.95 & get a well calibrated milligram scale with calibration weights like this one:
First of all you don't even know for certain if it's MDMA, you really should consider buying a test kit to make sure. For that matter without a scale you have no way of knowing if it's actually 1g of product.
Eyeballing drugs that have small effective doses by crushing them up into lines like you describe is just a bad idea in general. You can buy a milligram scale for less than $25 on amazon and get 2 day shipping if you really don't want to wait, this is the one I have and seems to work fine: [link]
The only really "safe" way to eyeball drugs (once you have a known quantity, so you should still get the scale) is to dissolve it in some kind of liquid and do volumetric dosing. For example, if you know for certain that you have 1 gram of molly and completely dissolve it in, say, 100mL of liquid, then each 10mL of that liquid will contain 100mg (of course that also depends on having a measuring cup or test tube or whatever that measures fluid volumes precisely enough). That said, I have no idea what MDMA would actually dissolve in.
I know that MDMA is active orally considering that it often comes in pills, I have no idea if it can be insufflated or not.
Yeah, that is true. It's possible OP could be more sensitive than usual to shrooms, but that isn't really much reason for the terrible experiences.
Measuring mushrooms will never be that accurate in the first place, though, as you can never tell how much psilocybin (the ingredient in shrooms that makes you trip) is in a particular mushroom.
Since I know you're fairly new to /r/drugs, and I'm on adderall, here's some cool information about another similar substance.
If you don't already know about 4-aco-dmt, it is a highly regarded research chemical that is both very safe and has been around for more that 50 years. It is very, very similar to mushrooms, as it is generally accepted that it degrades into psilocin in your body. Psilocybin also degrades into psilocin.
It is much more consistent with the dosing, as it is a pure chemical, and therefore much more predictable than shrooms, never a bad thing.
One more thing, it's legal in most countries, so you can literally order it to your doorstep, legally, on the internet.
You will need a milligram scale if you plan to try it though. Here's a great one: [link]
Have a nice day :)
I may be an asshat, but I am a correct asshat.
I guess you two are the only two dipshits around here who don't know about affordable MG scales and talk out of your ass. Here you go, wham, bam, and corrected. You can apologize and tell me how you were wrong whenever you want.
This scale will work perfectly fine to dose out ~20mg doses. At worst you'll dose 17-23mg for 20, but in reality I've found it to be more reliable than that.
i just bought this one, works great so far i guess, and comes with a 10 year warranty. also, i got free 2 day shipping 'cause of this new Amazon Student thing! great deal.
You could always spring for a new shiny milligram scale. AWS makes a good one for about $20.
Plus you'll probably be the only one of your friends with a milligram scale. :P
you need to realize that i dont like ANY of the digital scales.....i think they seriously suck. i cannot see how they can accurately measure 10mg or 40mg of this light fluffy powder these nootropic guys sell.
i think the one many have used is this one:
but i am not recommending it
I bought this scale from another site for about the same price. Hasn't failed me. I don't really trust it for <10mg weights, but I just weigh a capsule, then add desired amount, and if it checks out with the cap, I assume a +-2 variance. Good enough for me. More than good with 25mg+ amounts.
Awesome. Thanks for the advice guys.
I'm definitely going to go the scale rout. I am thinking about this one [link]
Man that will make things easier.
Any suggestions on water? I have read where people have had luck chasing with water. Is it better to just mix it with water?
I know that Oxy (which I used to do) will not be wasted if it goes down your throat, but H is much less potent that way.
So what do you do to prevent this? Does chasing with water/mixing with water help prevent this?
American Weigh Scales GEMINI-20 Portable MilliGram Scale, 20 by 0.001 G [link]
Extremely good scale for anything from 2cb, to mdma, to weed, to shrooms. Stop guessing and be responsible and get a scale.
1) Absolutely, get this one:
2) GVG - form a small wad of chore boy copper scrubber (walgreens) into a flat disc small enough to not touch the sides of the glass and not too compact to prevent airflow. Melt the DMT on to the scrubber by heating it first and dropping the DMT on top. Load it and vape like you would herb using a torch lighter, I recommend the Jobon ZB-529 because it has a large but soft clean burning flame and a large tank.
3) I have and always will use my method. 30 mg is my dose, the sandwich method may need more due to pyrolysis.
Yeah, usable "lab" scale good enough for milligrams costs like $50 or under, so it shouldn't be too expensive for anyone. Scoops are good when you need to dose something over 100mg, but once you go under that they become much less useful and dosing something active on milligram range without scale can be dangerous.
Also when you get new noots from new supplier you should always go for sub milligram test dose (you can never know if it's Bromo Dragonfly or something equally horrible that just kills you when you take over 1mg) and that is pretty impossible without scale. Sending them for testing is ofcourse better, but understandably that's not always option and very expensive.
Here is very good and cheap mg scale:
Are you guys using scales to get it down to as small amount as you can? I know fentanyl is in the micro-dose range but be careful with that stuff.
[link] Good cheap scale if you don't have one already.
I would say it is close or at five grams due to the size of the crystals. When these crystals are crushed there will be more volume because the chemical will be in smaller particles and not bound together in a more condensed space.
I'd advice to by a scale for safety purposes. I'd also advise on getting a multi-panel reagent kit to ensure the product you received is in-fact what was advertised. There are dozens of possible other products that look similar and have similar effects and results on a single reagent. Some can be deadly like PMMA and PMA; This has caused deaths in the past.
Be safe. Buy a scale; Not just to ensure you got a good deal....
Safety should always come first.
This scale works just fine:
It's an investment in your health to use a medical tool like MDMA.
Pure MDMA should have little comedown, little hangover, dominantly euphoric, and primarily empathogenic in nature.
this one weighs to 0.001g and is around $20 as I said in my earlier post. It comes with calibration weights. I don't know what your idea of cheap is but if you can afford several grams of an RC you can afford a scale.
It sounds like you are rationalizing your decision to not use a proper measuring method. Do you have a pyrex liquid measuring cup? A water bottle with graduated markings on it?
I guess it doesn't really matter though. Be safe and don't OD :)
You might be tempted to get this one. I did. It won't register small amounts and I suspect it under measures. I used it to weigh out some 2-FMA yesterday for the first time. First time with the scale and trying the chemical. What I thought was an absolutely minimal dose ended up being pretty overwhelming.
Pretty much the gold standard:
I personally use a microgram scale though that I bought off an Organic Chem prof at my local university.
Just get a scale or volumetrically dose your whole batch at once, I always volumetrically dose when we're looking at a chem like etizolam which is active at 1mg, otherwise some powders tend to clump up so you may encounter a pretty dense chunk of chem so be careful.
Still working on finding a good scale. Any recommendations? So far I've found this scale
Don't forget a scale. This is often overlooked. Its important to measure your dose. Don't eyeball it.
Place the 10g weight and concentrate pad on the scale, don't zero out, then measure out your dose. The reason for adding the weight and not zeroing out is because the scale won't register anything under 0.015g. It also comes with tweezers which helps with handling the concentrate pad.
Edited to correct weights.
You can get a jewlers scale that goes the the thousandths place (.001/ 1mg) for $21.50 on Amazon. Why put up with something shitty when fixing your issue is so cheap.
Just an FYI it's accurate down to ~5mg.
Yeah, Mesomorph I have on hand and it's definitely the best pre-mixed PWO out there. I use the GEMINI-20 scale. How many mg do you think you're using?
Yup, this one.
It's not perfect, I'd never use it for something with 1-2mg doses, but even at 5mg it's surprisingly accurate for the price, and above 10mg it's very good.
After a year plus of use and abuse including tossing and dropping mine the 10g test weight always weighs within 1-2mg.
Are you sure this is MDMA? that powder looks pretty fine to be straight up MDMA.
Please do yourself a favor and buy a test kit before taking this stuff. Also buy yourself a $20 scale from amazon.. below is the link for the one I bought..
Best scale for measuring doses.
Do yourself a favor and get a scale. Volumetric measuring is very inaccurate because its not a liquid and different densities, etc.
Keep track of how much you are taking, how you are taking it and what you are ingesting after/before your dose.
Experiment! Look into potentiates. Find your optimal dose. Use the search function in the sub. There are thousands of posts out there to dig through.
We always suggest using a balance/scale for dosing as scoops are highly unreliable in measuring. We do not include any type of scoop as they are not reliable nor do they measure in mg. All powders have different densities and therefore they shouldn't be measure using one.
We do not carry scoops, as we feel they promote the misuse of products. You should never use any compound without accurately weighing it with a milligram scale. It's for your own safety. Our customer's safety is priority #1.
We have found that the Gemini 20 is a decent scale at a decent price. Of course, this isn't an official endorsement of it. I have provided a link below.
I'd like to buy a scale for when I get some, I'm just not sure of the scale to choose. Hard to find one that's relatively "cheap", but still very accurate. Although, I have found one that is acceptable, 20g x 1mg, not bad at all. [link] . (Going to assume I can post this link.. let's see.)
Exactly, powder is no more "dangerous" than any other DXM product, BUT you've got to measure your shit accurately. Here's a product so inexpensive, yet so nice, I think that everyone should have one of these in their arsenal: [link]
havent tried anyone of these two, GEMINI-20 Portable MilliGram
Isnt that great makes an error about +- 2-3 grams, if you are patient you can order a better one from us amazon.
No I got a milligrams capable scale one used for precious stones and made a powder of my mushrooms that I added to my chocolate preparation.
I also had to learn the proper way to melt and prepare my organic dark chocolate. The method is called "chocolate tempering".
I would say orally and 15-20mg for first time. Make sure to buy a mg scale so you aren't eye balling it....
Yea. I'm glad that I figured it out. It'll make the tiny, cute little container of CBD last a lot longer. ;)
Here's a link to the scale, if you're interested. It's pretty good. Not as accurate as a really expensive scale, but definitely good enough.
how about this one?
and should i put it under my tongue and let it absorb then swallow or just do the old "toss n wash" method
That scale is cheap and very accurate.
As for how to... simple. That scale comes with tweezers, and your amp delivery should be in a small ziplock bag. Use the tweezers to drop some pinches on to the scale until you hit your desired dose, then dump it on something like a large dinner plate. Then you take one end of your open gel cap in each hand and use one end to shovel the powder into the other end. It's very quick and easy. Generally I put together 30 caps at once and it takes me about 15 minutes total. Since you're only putting 30mg or so in each cap just about any size cap will do.
$58 for 2g powder, $20 for the scale, $7 for a few hundred gel caps. $85 total investment for 66 30mg pills about the exact strength as 30mgs of adderall.
Generally the premade speed pills you find on the markets have caffeine or other cuts in them, and they're always much more expensive and much less effective. I've been using this method in place of adderall for a good while now with no problems at all. After trying aboout a dozen amphetamine vendors I stuck with SSBros gear since it's by far the best I've found and very honestly almost identical strength to adderall. After getting bunk batches from other vendors where it did nothing or I had to take 200mg+ to match 30-40mg adderall... yeah, finding Superspeedbros was a godsend. I've used the USA distributor and the main account both repeatedly. The USA reseller is faster and safer, but a bit more expensive. Either way they're both legit and SSBros have been making their own amp since SR1.
Tip: Generally to central US the main account takes around 20 days and the usa account takes 2-10 depending on stock levels. And yeah, I know I have to sound like a shill but once you try it you'll understand. :)
For beginner dose it seems to vary, I experimented on Saturday for the first time and started at 10mg since it's possible to do more later if you need to. I had planned on adding onto that dose after an hour if I wanted to, but I was enjoying the (fun but modest) effects for more like 2-3 hours. I did end up adding another 10mg but it was at the 3 hour mark so it mainly prolonged the subtle effects.
After a couple hours after those two 10mg doses, I did something that was closer to 15-20mg. That amount took me from the subtle effects into something that was quite a bit stronger but still functional (I could walk, talk, most everything normally). At that point I seemed to "connect" a lot of memories that I seemed to have forgotten during my days of DXM usage, and after the whole thing was over I felt like I had regained part of my brain or soul or something, and felt like a better person overall.
I stuck to low doses because I really don't enjoy mind blowing experiences much anymore and I needed to be somewhat functional. When I have time to experiement more I'll try something higher and see what that brings.
I'm used to it being shit.
Still $30 CAD lol. Googled conversion because I was curious. $1 CAD = 0.74 USD according to Google right now. Still pretty shit IMO.
Have used mesomorph and really liked it, but since I'm pretty frugal I now go for just the pure stuff. I picked it up at nutrivitashop.com and got a milligram scale (SUPER IMPORTANT), and I've never paid so little for such a great pre-workout before. The one downside is the time. It takes a lot of patience measuring out ingredients, especially because you can't just plop down some powder and you have to be careful not to put too much. For the money, you might just find it's worth paying a bit extra for mesomorph and getting the ease of a scoop. If I had any left, I liked to vary between choices like whether I wanted mesomorph or my stuff.
My go-to formula is
Mesomorph has all of those ingredients in basically those dosages, with extra stuff too tho
The Gemini 20 is the most popular scale around on /r/drugs You can find it on Amazon, but there might be other places that have it too.
I don't know how good this scale is so can't really comment on that.
I use this 'un [link]
I use it a few times a week. The only con is that the measurement "sticks" a bit with increments less than 5mg. What I mean is, if you are adding 1mg at a time, the display might not change, and then it will change up by 5mg when you have added 5mg. So, while it does technically have 1mg precision, if you really really need 1mg accuracy you might want to double check.
Other than that, it's been great.
This is the cheapest one that I could find. It does a reasonably good job and is actually on sale right now.
When I first got my phyto, I thought it looked really small. I didn't weight it, but as I used it I realized that you use a really small amount each time. The first time I used it, I measured out 50mg, thinking it was 5mg.
I had a GemPro 250, and I opted to downgrade to this one
I find that it is just as accurate, just slightly more cumbersome to use. I would rather spend the extra money on components / dies.
If you plan on doing this regularly, spend the $30 and get a scale like this one. I use it all the time, worth the money
nutravitashop.com is a great site with good prices, you just need a milligram scale. There's a really great one for like $20, it's cheap too! Here's a link
I use 50-75mg DMAA, 200-300mg caffeine, and 3.2-4g beta alanine. I also take 5g creatine, a multivitamin daily, and an appetite suppressant/fat burner daily, but not necessarily before I workout, usually in the mornings.
Citrulline Malate is also really good, I'm pretty sure the clinical dosage is 6-8g but do your research, and that's for anything you plan on adding as well. You probably won't need anything other than those as those are the only things that really give a noticeable difference. Personally, when I do my custom pre-workout vs a company's pre-workout, I can't tell the difference.
I also put in a sugar free Hawaiian Punch packet or half a packet. Make sure to get different flavors because you'll get tired of them quick. I also recommend taking it like a shot if you forego the flavors for cost because that shit will taste horrendous.
Dried or fresh? Dried and ground with a cheap coffee grinder and then weighed was much more consistent for me. This scale works great:
Once you've settled on a dosage size, load up a 0 or 00 gel capsule and note how 'full' it is...then fill future capsules to that position more or less.
The Gemini 20 on Amazon
Easily the most affordable and accurate scale on the market. I couldn't recommend more.
Of course, you'll still have to use volumetric dosing, but the Gemini 20 is the best drug related purchase I've ever made right after reagent tests.
Get a scale before you fuck up and do something stupid. [link]
Would that scale work? I ask because I can get it 2 day shipping.
Get a 0.001 scale NOT a 0.01...
This one is good for the price:
Measure the weight several times to get it correct. Only mess with this stuff if you're ready to experience some intense shit. Always have a sitter if you go for bigger doses..
I use this scale for all of my powders. You may be able to find it locally or one like it, a lot of headshops sell them, but make sure it can measure 0.001 g or 1 mg. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. The capsule will make it be absorbed faster than a tablet, but slower than a liquid when taken orally. If you smoke it or boof it, it'll be absorbed much faster which is responsible for the rush.
I weigh other things which require mg measurements and have this along with the standard AWS 1/10th gram scale. I like to be accurate.
I really like my Lee manual, I use it all the time and prefer it's layout over others. So long as you don't get one from a bullet manf. you should be good as the ones from the bullet makers only contain data for their bullets.
For a affordable digital scale I'd toss out the AWS Gemini 20(link below) I use it to load for my .308 precision gun.
I have two. I use this one the most. It is extremely accurate if you were ever planning to weigh other things with it. This is not a scale for weighting over 20 grams at a time Carats, grams, oz, ozt (troy ounce), dwt (penny weight), gn (grain) [link]
20 bucks man, here
This one is good: [link]
But make sure you don't ever put anything more than 20 g on it. It is kind of fragile. Also, if you are weighing something really small and less than 5 mg or so, it will work better if you put a penny or something on it with your substance and subtract the weight of the penny. These scales aren't as accurate with really lightweight things.
If you're gonna spend $10 on those, you might as well buy a full featured scale like this one for only $15 more. On the frequently bought together part, it lists the scale, a scooper, and empty pill capsules for $40.
>I'm not affiliated with any of the company's that produce/distribute the product(s) I promoted (including amazon). Just trying to save you a few bucks
I'd recommend a milligram scale so that you can measure exactly how much potassium and sodium you're getting from these spoons. I use this one. Use the guidance in the FAQ to figure out what numbers to hit.
If you want any degree of accuracy, yes. You also need filter funnels, bubblers, and a reasonably accurate means of weighing. You need an aquarium pump, flowmeter and stopwatch so you can calculate the volume of air passing through the bubbler.
You can buy usable balances from Amazon or ebay. This one claims to be good to 1 milligram, which is hard to believe. I use a jeweler's scale, with is reliable to 10 milligrams. Barium chloride is available cheaply from Amazon.
You can buy CO2 sensors, too, but they are not cheap and you still have to measure the volume of air to calculate the total CO2 produced.
[link] buy this too cuz the last thing you wanna do is eyeball smtn as potent as 4-aco-dmt this is a nice starter scale at a moderate price and will make ur drug journeys a lot safer
Speaking from personal experience, this scale kicks ass
That scale has seen maaaany substances. In fact, used it just the other day for some MDMA.
That brand of scale is surprisingly accurate for the price. That's the exact pair I use and they came calibrated right on the money. None of them are particularly good at weighing under a gram though. If you're thinking of weighing powder for microdosing (or weighing DMT doses) I would look at getting a pair of milligram scales like these: [link]
$20 on Amazon:
You need a milligram scale if you are taking supplements in the form of loose powder. I use this one.
A teaspoon is a measure of volume, not weight. Ignore that part of the nutrition label and focus on the weight. Use that to determine how much to pour onto the scale.
This is pretty good advice, although I (as well as a few others I know) tend to have nasty reactions to (suspected) MDA, so the test kits aren't 100% for people like me.
And you'll need a milligram scale for dosing, this one will do for MDXX chems: [link]
why does it have to be accurate to centigrams? If its for weed you can get one that is accurate to .1 and you'll be fine. If you are looking for a scale for shit like yayo, molly or rc's you should probably get one that is accurate to milligrams. [link] is what i use and it is great.
EDIT: it is great for everything except weed, these smaller more accurate scales have small weighing surfaces making them ideal for small amounts of powder but terrible for weighing even a gram of weed.
Sure. All you need once you have the bulk powder are capsules and a way to measure. You can get a digital scale for cheap, and the 00 size capsules I buy are usually around $10 or so for a giant bag.
Tbh I've stopped weighing the powders because the 00 size capsules don't really hold much more than a gram of even the densest powders. Most of the stuff I put into capsules is dosed in grams so it's pretty easy to eyeball what I'm doing. But definitely get a scale if you decide to start doing this so you have a solid idea of how much powder equates to how many mg or grams.