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You can get the BS22s for $98 on Amazon.
They frequently drop to $85 (pair), at which price they're a bargain.
But I agree, the Fluance SX6 are a good choice too under 200. :)
> Technics SU-V98
This was actually one of the few bright spots Technics had as far as receivers go. I would definitely hang onto it and get some higher quality bookshelves. $150 CAD doesnt get what it does here unfortunately.
Pioneer BS22 might be the best available option for that price. The Fluance SX6 are a good choice too if you can go to $175.
I would start looking for used bookshelves as well.
I just upgraded to monitor audio bronze bx2, normally $500, on sale at audio advisor (non affiliated) for $359. They're fantastic. If you're not looking to spend that much, grab these, they're pretty universally lauded as great for the price:
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers
Does the link have those or no? How about the Pioneer sp-bs22-lr What do you think would be better/easier set up.
I currently have two Sony midsize speakers (tower-ish) from the 90's and I was looking to upgrade to these Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speakers
I know there will be a loss of base and overall loudness, but I am really looking for an upgrade in the quality of the sound. Am I making the right purchase if i go forth?
I am running a technics SL-DB20 with series III cartridge, for reference
Yes, it is. I know someone who has one. It has a built-in phono preamp, but you don't want to use it while the one in the turntable is on. If you use the turntable's preamp, you plug in the turntable on another input besides "phono". That receiver would be a good fit for these highly-regarded speakers which are on sale right now -
Okay. If I were going to go the small speaker route, I've already got these Pioneer BS22 LRs which are awesome speakers.
I think I am looking for some tube warmth in the whole set up, not just for the headphones. Any recommendations on brands for a sub $250 preamp? Is a preamp in that budget not going to make any difference?
I am using the receiver with speakers. I've got these Pioneers set up now.
Ok, I found them on Amazon and decided that I wanted the floor standing speakers instead (if they are pretty much the same thing) because I don't really have a place to put the bookshelf speakers. So, I could get that and the center speaker, and the subwoofer (both on that page) and be set? Do I need the center speaker? Can I use the center speakers, sub, and two side speakers from my previous surround sound?
Thanks for all your help. Also, pretend like my budget isn't $350, but stay around this level of speakers. I will probably splurge (invest).
Not recommended. I'm not a huge fan of the Andrew Jones line as is but the first generation is really not worth the money. I'd avoid those. If you feel drawn towards them for some reason consider the second gen: [link]
You can get the floorstanding Pioneer speakers right now for the same price as the bookshelf ones:
I did a lot of online research before buying my speakers and these were always highly recommended.
I've had the AVR-1613 for about 3 years now and it works really well. I have it paired with these Pioneer speakers and they sound great.
Airplay for audio,
Front HDMI port,
Not as crazy config options like other Denon receivers
Airplay is ethernet only. Not wireless,
Favors HDMI inputs. 4 rear, 1 front. No component input. 2 analog video inputs,
On screen menu looks pretty crappy
Overall it's been great. Hope that helps!
Those speakers are surprisingly good. They're the previous years version of these (can't find a lot of info on the older models anymore). They were designed by Andrew Jones to be the best budget speakers available.
If you get new speakers do you want to use them with both your computer and your TT or just your TT. If you just want to use them with the TT buy these.
Slightly over $100 but they are great little speakers.
No problem. I was there once too.
Here's a thread/article reviewing current production bookshelf speakers. If you are looking new, and your budget it ~$100, then your best bet is the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR. It's well reviewed and has been dubbed a budget audiophile speaker. I have a pair of the larger (but very similar) SP-FS52-LR in my A/V setup and they do sound pretty good.
Amazon, Best Buy, B&H Photo and others will have then on sale for $100 or less about every 4-6 weeks. You can set up an alert at camelcamelcamel.com to notify about a price drop. If they go on sale at Amazon, then it probably means they are on sale elsewhere as well.
Hi guys! I have a Realitics STA-2270 receiver and a Techniques sl-d20 turntable. I believe that the receiver is 120W and 8 ohms. My question is what wattage of speakers do I need?
Would these: [link]
be ok? If not, could you guys give me a suggestion or two in the $200 or less range?
I assumed by "Home Theater" that 5.1 is what you meant...2 channels does not make a home theater, but at least we're being practical.
>The boston Craigslist market is pretty robust
Not in your price range. Everything I see is crap, and you'd be better off buying the "cheapest recommended system" in the OP, though I'd consider trading the Miccas for these Pioneer's. It's a toss up as to which is better, the Miccas will get louder, but they aren't necessarily better at normal volumes. The Pioneer's are a little more limited in overall output, so if you really like to crank it and are throwing a party in the kitchen, you might find them lacking. Your call.
You can save some money and get these: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers [link]
They're considered the best cheap bookshelf speakers just above the Micca MB42Xs
EI'd get these instead of the miccas: [link] and eventually complete the system, with the exception of a Dayton sub.
Or spend a bit more and build an infinity primus system
For that price you can get the Pioneer's at your local Best Buy or on amazon: [link]
Soundbars suck. Full stop.
Pioneer Andrew Jones are hard to beat. The problem is that most good speakers aren't going to be powered, so you'll need an amp as well.
If you're still looking to buy a pair of these they're back for sale at 98.91 before promo code. Or 99.99 at Amazon.
Others may weigh in, but usually I see the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR recommended at the ~$100 USD price point. Not sure what that is in maple leaf dollars atm though but seems to be probably around what you're looking for.
I would go for the X2200W because it features Denon's MultiEQ XT, while the S910W only has MultiEQ. The XT will drastically help when calibrating the speakers, especially since you want 7.1 and atmos. I would definitely go with the X200W if you can get it for only $100 more.
Do you know the Polk speakers you are thinking about? I have heard the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer speakers are good. Atmos is available for these as either an add-on or comes with certain bookshelf speakers. Amazon does not indicate if certain prices are for pairs. If the prices are, then you could get two towers, sub, two bookshelf speakers for rear, and two atmos add-ons for the tops of the towers for about $800. If the prices are not for pairs, then add about $300 more. Perhaps more people can chime in about other speakers with atmos that would fit your budget.
Here is the link to the amazon purchase: [link]
Denon's website shows the X2200W at $800. Adding the speakers, you would be around $1600 without tax, if applicable, or about $1900 depending on the statement above. I would also recommend a power conditioner instead of a surge protector at this level. Look around for a good one that is reasonably priced.
Good luck! My father was sitting in a room with atmos speakers and ducked when a helicopter flew overhead in the movie.
The Pioneer BS22's are on sale for $100 right now too. These or either of the two Zeos mentioned would be a good option.
If you're more of a bass head the Pioneers will be better. If you're not or you're limited on space look at the others. If you better highs the Micca's are the way to go.
I think the Audio Technica comes with an amp built in... at least I think I heard that. And what about these pioneer speakers? I heard they are really good and I would be willing to save up if you agree.
I haven't tried them personally, but those are the ones the waxbandit was referring to. My understanding is that they're very good to someone who hasn't experienced Extremely good speakers, because after that you get spoiled and know what you're missing out on. Probably the best bang for the buck available if you're buying new. Since they're lacking bass, it would be important to get mounting and positioning done well. Coupled well to the floor and I'm sure you've come across the triangular speaker/listener arrangement. Tinker with the toe a bit and I bet they're wicked. I was thinking of picking up a set to see if I could get by without the honkers I have now.
Edit: Oh shit, didn't realize the were not available in the UK... I wonder what it'd cost to get them shipped from someplace on an auction site.
Yeah on top of that cabinet is way too high. In general the tweeters should be located at ear height in the main listening position. I'm guessing there is no "main listening position" in this application. Your idea to mount them in the top corners should be fine but might be difficult. They'll need to be 45 degrees AND angled down to the center of the room. I never asked if you will primarily be using this for music or TV watching. If TV primarily you might want a center channel speaker mounted directly below it. Of course this would mean buying an AVR instead of a stereo receiver. However you can find older used AVR's really cheap on CL in most areas. Just food for thought. If space permits you also might consider using tower speakers instead like these [link] which are very good.
For that price, I'd recommend doing a scan of any local used electronics shops and thrift stores--you may be surprised with what you find. For new, there are lots of options, but mostly a lot of the same--you could get these pair of passive speakers for relatively cheap. Passive speakers tend to run cheaper than active speakers BUT you will have to buy an amp to power the speakers (not to be confused with a preamp--which I believe the LP120 has built-in).
OP, get some real speakers. If they have plastic cabinets, they're junk. I would highly recommend a low end receiver from any of the major manufacturers (Pioneer, Sony, Yamaha), a pair of book shelf speakers and a powered subwoofer. I own these and to me they rival speakers 5 times their price.
You will get such better sound out a dedicated receiver/speaker set up. The low end market is so competitive right now; there are so many good deals.
In that range I'd get the Pioneer's. They won't be the end all be all of bass response, but everything else they do fairly well.
You can always add a subwoofer to fill out the bottom end.
4.5 stars with over 1100 reviews. That should say something.
recently got some Pioneer BS22s on sale on amazon for $90,
good entry level speakers also.
yea what billy said about Dacs, u may or may not need one. If u decide to get one consider whether u want one that is 24 bit capable or not. Not a lot more $ for a 24 bit dac. More and more music is being released in 24 bit Flac format.
Craigslist is great. I look up items from CL on eBay and see what they sold for, get an idea what ppl are paying for said item. (click the "items sold" box). most receivers and similar size items are usually $25 - $50 or more to ship, so add that to the price.
A few people around here sell stuff on CL and advertise you are welcome to try stuff out before you buy. At minimum ask if you can here/see something working if possible. If you live in or close to a big city CL can be great. If ur not in a hurry and check back often. People move and sell stuff like a fire sale. Look in the pictures for what kind of state the people selling stuff live in. If you see crap and dust all over, maybe not so good :)
definitely turn speakers all around and listen for anything loose or rattling around, even new ones
Any chance of convincing him on using these as his satellites: [link]
Those are going to have a much better sound, though I know they'd be a good step up in cost. They're still quite budget, though. Likely be much happier in the end. There's a matching center, too.
I’m in the market for new/used bookshelf speakers, and I have a budget of $150.
These speakers will primarily be used for my Technics SL-Q210 turntable paired with a Technics SU-Z2 Stereo Integrated Amplifier. The amplifier’s output only uses speaker wire.
I will primarily play blues/jazz with occasional hip hop, and I plan for the speakers to be about a 2.5 feet away from me, right outside my desk.
I’m currently looking at these
Alex Jones Pioneer speakers, but I’d like to know if there’s anything better at this price point, new or used.
These will work: [link]
With your current ones, if you connect them to Tape 1 Rec, plug your turntable into phono 1, select phono and set rec out selector to phono you might be able to get it to work, but you will need to adjust the volume on the speakers.
I have a pair of these Pioneer bookshelf speakers and they sound awesome. Would absolutely recommend them, and they're only $130 (and sometimes go on sale for much less).
Does anybody have any recommendations for floor standing stands for the Pioneer Andrew Jones bookshelf speakers? I can't wall mount them for various reasons, and they're kinda oddly shaped. They'll be on wood floors, and I'd really like them to be extremely stable. Thanks!
Yeah, unfortunately I blew mine out a few months ago but they sound alright if I don't crank them up too loud. I was thinking about getting these. From what I've read online, they seem to be good for me. You have any suggestions?
Well, do you want 2.1, 3.1, or 5.1 currently? Obviously, if the budget is only for 2.1, you will get better speakers, but it of course will cost more to expand.
Just letting you know, the cheapest sub which is good (gets below 30Hz, has good power output, and doesn't sound bad) is the BIC America F12, which is $210. The next step down is the BIC Venturi 10", which is $170. You could also check Craigslist, I recently got a Klipsch sub-12 for $100, thing is a beast.
If you want to start at a 2.1, get the F12 sub and the Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers for $90 (if you don't have Amazon Prime, get the Micca MB42X's for $90). If you want 3.1 or 5.1, let me know.
These? Is that for a pair? It seems like it is but its not explicitly stated anywhere...
Noob question incoming: Could I connect the Pioneer SP-BS22-LRs to a receiver using speaker wire? Reviews says it uses banana plugs but I have a vintage receiver, and I'm 95% sure it doesn't have attachments for the plugs.
The Pioneer SP-BS22 Andrew Jones designed bookshelves. Great sound for such a cheap speaker, and I was truly amazed, because not a fan of Japanese company speakers at all. But these are the real deal.
Amazon.ca is the only Canadian retailer that sells Miccas, so Ebay or Craigslist might be your only shot until they restock. Or if you live close to the border, maybe find a package receiving service that can take packages from Amazon.com.
Not sure if you've already considered them, but the Pioneer BS22 bookshelves are priced equivalent to the Micca MB42x and are also highly-regarded. They are a larger speaker with a different (supposedly darker) sound than the Miccas, though.
I have these and they sound good.. they're pretty highly recommended for the price range.
others may disagree but I like them.
At that budget, I'd go for the Pioneer SP-BS22LR. They're great, versatile speakers- I use them myself. They periodically go on sale for $100, but if you don't want to wait Amazon has some used ones for under $100. (I found mine used at a pawn shop for $68, but I got a bit lucky with that price).
Not sure about Canada Availability but i have a pair of these in my bar:
and am quite happy with the overall sound quality. I think i found mine used on ebay or amazon i dont remember. I would recommend those for the money sincerely. I blew my hearing in my teens and these still get bright enough for me.
25 is ok, but it's like right at the edge of not really being enough. There's no magic number, because your amp needs are based on your speaker's needs, but more like 35-40 and you've got more flexibility.
They're not as nice looking but I think highly of these cheap bookshelf speakers by Pioneer.
I also like Paradigm and Wharfedale for a bit more.
But, there's no ceiling, is the thing. You can always do a bit better for another couple hundred bucks, or five hundred, or a thousand. That said, a hundred for speakers and a hundred for an amp is kinda the very minimum threshold, if you're buying new.
It depends on your seating. If it's you alone in the sweet spot 2.0 will work just fine. If you or someone else is sitting off angle a center would be the way to go.
I would look at Pioneer BS22 for $99/pair
The Pioneers would give you a little more low end than the Miccas and to me they sound better. Especially if you go initially without a sub the extra low end will be nice. However, the center (The C22) some say is lacking but it sounds fine in my setup. I haven't listened to the Micca center.
Pioneer BS-22LR are usually my recommendation for new speakers. I have them myself- they're versatile and sound great. I wasn't able to find any specs on the HK's output power, but the Pioneer speakers aren't hugely inefficient. I've run them off my little class-T amp in a pinch so I think you're probably fine.