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The problem isn't thermal paste, it's that people don't regularly maintain their devices and/or don't place their consoles somewhere with proper ventilation. My PS4 is 4 years old and runs dead silent because after one year (once it was out of warranty), I routinely (every 4-6 months) open my PS4 and dust out the inside with my electric duster ([link]). I blast the fan, power supply, all the vents, and loosen any hardened dust with a soft paintbrush.
My PS4 runs quiet no matter what I'm playing. Same applies for my PS3, which is going to be 9 years old this year and still runs cool.
Dåser med luft er nemt men ikke ligefrem billigt. Jeg kender ikke andre metoder udover måske sådan en dims her:
Jeg tror f.eks. ikke en almindelig kompressor er sikker nok (luften skal være ren, hvis der er små partikler i kan man vel lave skade på sin pc).
I wasn't thinking fans. I was thinking an electric air compressor akin to this:
It's electric, but it's not a fan. It's a (weak, but good enough for something like this) compressor. The advantage is you can have it live somewhere other than on the arm, and just route the air via a tube that follows the same path as the vacuum tube you use for the suction cup and the electronic ribbons.
I think it would work with or without the weight sensing. Just have it blast in lieu of the shimmy. I just thought I noticed it didn't shimmy all the time so I thought you were sensing weight already.
Any fellow IT guys in here that want to get rid of cans of duster, this thing is amaaaaaaazing. Been using it for years, and it's so nice. Basically it's a motor from a good vacuum like a Kirby, but reversed from suck to blow.
Dust isn't even usually that bad anyways. It's blown way out of proportion. Once you own one of these electric blowers you'll never buy another can of compressed air or turn on an air compressor. There are also cheaper options.
I use a small electric blower to keep mine clean. its loud as hell and gets pretty hot, but it works wonders.
I've used it to make computers that haven't been cleaned in easily 5 years look brand new.
I too was tired of buying all those cans. I now use this thing and its just as strong as those air cans. Working on hundreds of pc's a month this thing has already paid for itself.
I just got one of these last week and I love it. You can turn it any which way you want and it also doesnt lose power after 25 seconds of continuous use like canned air.
I bought one of these things and have been very happy with it. It's a one-time investment and will save you a lot of money in the long run. It's loud as hell, so no late-night computer cleaning, but it get the job done.
or buy one of these [link]
i bought one ages back to clean my PC out with, works must better than the cans and is inifinite provided you have power LOL.
This right here
Although, I got it when it was substantially cheaper ($35 dollar range). Plus, I have multiple gaming PC's to use it on. Which is what I purchased it for. If you have the disposable income though, it's incredible.
> Metro Vacuum ED500
> This newest addition to Metro's proven DataVac line has been completely redesigned from the ground-up. It is much more compact and comfortable to use than previous models and features a new, almost unbelievably powerful 500-watt motor that literally blasts dust, dirt, and debris off expensive computer/electronic equipment to keep it running at peak efficiency. The new DataVac electric duster is a "greener," more effective, and cost-efficient alternative to the controversial "canned air" products
Yes, the name is confusing.
Get an electric duster, it pays for itself in no time, plus it's green for the environment. I bought one on Amazon a few weeks ago for my pc and I have been using it on everything.
Its WAY more powerful than cans, therefore more effective. Also, it won't freeze in your hand.
Highly recommend, here is a link.
The BIOS on this board is nice in the sense that it can be updated via usb stick when in the BIOS. I much prefer that over having to have Windows to do that stuff. My last update on it was in April. I did write down the version so I'll check online tomorrow to see if there are any updates for it.
I use one of these badasses every few months on all of the inner workings of the computer, so the next time I have to open up the chassis, I'll be reseating the RAM as well.
Microfiber cloth? No spray with it? How will the cloth get the marks and stuff off all my screens? Some of then have "gunk" on them.
That vac I linked above, it's a blower and a vacuum. Wouldn't that work? Just blow the dust of the PC? So the "suction/vacuum" feature of that device is pointless?
There is also this other Metro Vacuum, it's a few bucks cheaper and only a blower, not a vacuum. But wouldn't the first one just be better?
A can of compressed air is my usual go-to for dust. You can also get one of those mini electric blowers if dust is a pretty persistent problem.
EDIT: like this one
I agree canned air sucks but damn that duster you linked is expensive. I got one of these. Ive had it for about a year now and it works great.
Off topic but instead of compressed air might I recommend this:
$60, it's more powerful than canned air, never runs out, and it's built like a tank. I use the little brush attachment to clean out my keyboards.
You can quite likely find disassembly instructions online for one, and for two, draw a map of the laptop on a piece of paper, then tape the screws you remove to that map. Layer by layer.
Lastly, consider getting this rather than cans of compressed air. It costs about as much as 4-7 cans, but it'll last forever and it's also great for blowing up air mattresses and other fun stuff.
Get a can of compressed air (or an electronic duster like this bad boy) and blow air into the exhaust port.
That should dislodge any dust clinging to the heatsinks, and should hopefully help.
Otherwise, you're likely looking at some kind of firmware update, as I've seen that happen a few times with certain Macbooks (A1181 specifically).
I got this bad boy for christmas which unstickied my Surface Pro 3 keys (I spilled some coffee or tea on the keyboard a while back) but an air compressor might work too. I'd just be careful about too much air if it's very powerful. A can of normal air duster from Staples might be enough too, just don't huff it.
Have you thoroughly dusted out all of the components? Clogged fans can ruin GPUs and PSUs REALLY quickly, and can also cause these sorts of issues.
Consider getting this bad boy, the Metro ED500 Electronic Duster. It runs about the same as a few cans of compressed air, but lasts forever (with proper care) and can be used for all SORTS of awesome stuff.
i recommend the DataVac if you want a cleaning solution to keep around.
keep a vacuum near where you are working to suck up the ambient dust that comes off the components.
Hold fans from spinning while you clean so that you don't overspin them and cause damage.
also, you could look into a non static conductive brush to lightly (EMPHASIS ON LIGHTLY) brush dust that has clung to components via static to get things even more clean.
Just reply to this if you have any more questions!
Had same issue till I ditched that case (god do I feel free without it now)
Here's the solution
Upfront cost somewhat high...long term cheaper than canned air. The performance is absurd though compared to canned air. Night and day
Not necessarily as good as a can of air for the really concentrated burst of air, but it will last a lot longer and take care of the worst of your problems. As someone else mentioned, use of a brush will help knock loose the stuff this won't get by itself.
Not sure if my link is the best out there, it's just a quick example from google.
I have one of these. My company bought it for me because I work on cash registers and peripherals. As you can imagine, they get filled with all kinds of dust and crude. I like it because it is powerful enough, but it won't leave a residue like duster can.
I got this for cleaning out my PC. It's so freaking good at cleaning and it's hella fun to use. I would highly recommend one.
Save yourself the canned air hassle and get one of these.
Quick and simple. Cleaned out all the dust on my 540 in 2 minutes and now it runs so much cooler. A bit spendy to start up with but when you compare that a can of air costs in my area about 8 bucks and it will only last a short time before you lose pressure due to cold or just runs out, it a good investment for the long haul. Plus it makes dusting other household items easier too!
Unplug everything, go to garage, and use my DataVac, take out 5-10 minutes, tops, pull off side panel, and front cover, blow dust out, and done.
Best purchase I've made.
Buy yourself one of these. I've owned one for a while, has been nothing but a godsend. It saves you money on compressed air cans, and pretty much cleans the shit out of anything you'd want it to.
Thanks, you too :)
Btw, I heard good things about one of these as an alternative for canned air. I sadly cannot buy one, because I don't live in the US and can't find it anywhere here, but it saves a lot of money if you use a lot of canned air.
I work for a major manufacturer of things as a field tech. they pulled all the canned air out of our vehicles and issued us one of these. 10-20x more powerful, never runs out. comes with attachments. 11/10.
I was wondering more on the lines of if the washer pump had to be removed in order to reach the coolant pump and holy cow, I had to pay a lot more than $50 to get mine replaced. I'll see look around and try to see what's wrong with it tomorrow. Do you have any recommendations on how to push air through the hose? I have this: [link], but I'm not sure if it'll be strong enough.
If you can, I'd recommend picking up this computer vacuum. I got it for christmas and it kicks ass, the only downsides are that it is as loud as a normal vacuum and can get a little hot now and then.
Never have to buy cans of (expensive) air again.
For those that are interested, this is an electric air duster. Works pretty well and comes with a bunch of little nozzles for getting those nooks and crannies.
I think someone else might have mentioned this before but The DataVAC works wonders. Got one a few weeks ago and it works way better than compressed air cans. Just a fair warning, the body does get hot after prolonged use but not enough to be a serious problem for me.
That closed case theory is for a well designed ventilation. Idk if you've ever opened a dell but usually the CPU cooler sucks in air from the case and then directs it over the cpu cooler and out the back using a plastic thing. If that gets clogged the case will have practically no ventilation so everything heats up way too much.
Opening the case here would probably help, but it's not a good long term plan. This is only $60 and is practically a never ending can of air duster. I've used one and it was awesome. It's a great long term plan for anyone with a computer.
Mine is the metro Data Vac and it works like a can of compressed air.
Before I was using a different type of vacuum. It did work though. I had no problems cleaning my computer and keyboard. So you should be good to go!
I recommended a Data-VAC, best purchase I have ever made when it comes to cleaning electronics. Don't let the name fool you this a a 3/4 HP blower (~ 500 watts).
I use one of these to clean out all my computer parts. It has paid for itself over the years vs. expensive compressed air cans.
About 3+ years now and still going strong. Some folks worry that since these use ambient air, there's a greater chance for ruining your parts but I've not had any such problem. YMMV.
Wow...an "office" without a DataVac? Real pro shit right there.
Sure, I mean... it's inevitable, especially with my cats. But I do keep a can of air on hand at all times, and it looks like this.
I had that problem. If you can, clean the sensor. sometimes hair or dust can cause the mouse to misread the laser. I wish they would make these things easier to clean.
q-tip (take some cotton off, make it fluffy)
vacuum cleaner or one of these
I'd stay away from canned-air due to residue.
Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster 120 volt [link]
Got that one when I didn't want to use compressed air anymore. Works way better than any Canned air ever could. Let's me clean out all my computers at once. As long as you do not mind the ringing in your ears.
I would not...
Invest in something like this. You will save more money in the long run by not having to buy canned air.
Get one of these, ED500 DataVac, it is an amazing handheld blower that will never require you to purchase a can of air again. May seem expensive at first, but the 100+ computers it has cleaned in that time would have cost a lot more in canned air. I bought mine in August 2012, and it still works like the day I got it, pretty sure it came off of the BIFL sub.
I use that thing once a month or so and blast out my case. It is vastly superior to canned air, you can be liberal with the basically infinite air supply and not have to worry about how you're holding the can and accidentially blasting your mobo with some cryo juice.
Edit: Make sure you either zip tie your fans or hold them in place while using this blower, you could damage your fans with how fast it can spool the fan blades up.
Grab one of these.
> It's expensive
It is, but you're also never paying for compressed air again, and it works a thousand times better than compressed air.
I bought this a while back and it is awesome. Really works so much better than canned air and I feel it is worth it.
Never this one but I do own the DataVac which is a popular pc duster and I really like it. It's loud but really powerful. Never used it on a car though.
Oh! I just posted what I have right before I got to your comment.
This blower has been a huge lifesaver for me. It says it's a vacuum, but it only blows. I unplug my tower and take it outside on a step-stool...thing. Basically so the tower is level with me and on a sturdy surface that isn't the ground. I put cut piece of straw in each of my fans, make sure I've discharged any static and turn that sucker on! It's so satisfying to get all the cat fur and dust out, I love that thing!
Air compressor can damage parts if you aren't careful.
Honestly I'd recommend this tool. It's amazing for cleaning out computers.
You can use an air compressor in a pinch but take care not to put the nozzle too close to components.
If you use those compressed air cans a lot you should think about getting one of these. It doesn't freeze up after 30 seconds, is more effective, and no cans to recycle. High up front cost, but it pays itself off over time.
I would get one of these, solely for computer cleaning in the future.
Electric Duster, way cheaper than buy can after can of compressed air. Plus is more environment friendly and it is POWERFUL. Way more powerful than compressed air.
I would just blow it off as best as you can, try to boot it up and see if you have any issues. Let us know how it goes.
Oh, and as Toshi said, as long as you have the protection it could be covered and you might be able to build a new PC.
You can take it apart or purchase a business grade electric compression duster.
We use the following at the shop, and while it loud and more expensive that compressed air, it's very effective.
Speaking of cleaning...I'm so thankful I bought that DataVac on Amazon. It's probably the best tool for the job now. [link]
This is what I use. Works much better than compressed air cans and costs less over time. Get one next time you need to clean out!
Edit: just saw all the other recommendations for the datavac. Ignore me!
This works much better.
I am hesitant on using air compressors due to the water that could come out. I stick to can air or the this DataVac. But yes, thx for expanding on what said. It use to be the first suggest for upgrade (after you bought your computer) was memory, now I always suggest getting an ssd first.
At my old job we had to clean out the PC's when we were upgrading them to W7. (just for maintenance) Since the computers were in the warehouse they would get alot of dirt in them.
We had one of these to clean them out: [link]
It works wonders.
I use this:
I've been using it for year now, it's a bit expensive but nothing else really compares. I remove keycaps bi-monthly, plug this thing and and boom everything is gone, and any hard to remove stuff I use tweezers, for any stains a Q-tip + lubricant.
The best advice however, is clean regularly with an air-blowing device of some kind, wether you use the cheaper hand held ones, or caned air or what I linked, keeping up with maintenance is the best way to go. Also avoid eating at your keyboard, always clean your hand before using your keyboard and keep some microfiber towels around to clean your hands/caps before and after heavy usage
Saw what you said earlier about hair, the only way to fully get rid of them is to remove keycaps. Cleaning with caps on is a waste of time, get a keycap puller and do it the right way.
Obviously you shouldn't actually do this to dust out your computer, it could potentially damage components, especially from over-spinning fans.
If you don't want to spend money on canned air, buy one of these.
Everyone suggests compressed air, but I personally hate it.
Get one of these and it will last you a life time as well as get areas and angles that compressed air could never get.
I picked up one of these specifically for dusting my PC, but it's pretty good for blowing off my small patio as well. The only bad part is having to unhook the computer and carry it outside. It's a high tower, so very big and heavy. [link]
I highly recommend something like this:
Can blow out those keys and fans without taking anything apart.
I can also recommend a solution of half rubbing alcohol and half distilled water for cleaning the outside, wrist rests, and screen.
This post makes me fear for my 7950 now, I can't really afford to replace the guy, I've had mine for almost 3.5 years now.
Question: did yours idle around 57-60^o C?
(Case temp: 35^o C, CPU Idle: 45-55^o C)
I'm planning on getting a bunch of extra case fans and one of those reverse vacuums so I can clean out the heatsink a bit.
This may not fit your budget, but it is definitely worth the investment. I've never had to spend another dime on compressed air and it is much, much more powerful and effective.
Water should do the trick.
Seriously, though - consider something like this lovely product. Don't need to get one that expensive, but they're basically small reverse vacuums (they use vacuum motors, even) that have glorious output. Bought one a year ago for $30 and haven't looked back, and it should be available anywhere, even where compressed air isn't.
Buying a Metrovac was one of the best things I've ever done for my home gear:
It's on sale for 56$! Never need to buy canned air again! WEeeeeeeeee
Even bigger: Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster 120 volt [link]
Can use it to blast particles out of barrels, clean computers and blow leaves away in autumn.
A bit pricey, but holy crap it was worth it.
See if one of the local shops (PCBrokers or CompuXParts) will let you use their compressors to clean it out. PCBrokers use to do it free of charge the last time I was there - but that was over 10 years ago.
Canned air is so yesterday. You should get into the big leagues. I got this thing:
From Amazon. It is called a 'vacuum', but it is really a blower. It is like constant canned air on steroids. It is about twice or three times as powerful as canned air, it never runs out and it never gets too cold. Plus, just air, no poison. With this sucker, you could blow away your food, get rid of the plate and clean off your whole desk. Then blow dry your hair.
Have you cleaned inside of the actual nozzle? The main problem seems to be buildup inside the channel for a lot of people. I had this exact same problem and what I used was a duster ([link]) and it seemed to fix the issue
Wow, pc masterrace? Nah, master race buys a DataVac AND actually uses it.
You are fucking disgusting. Shame!
Ok thanks! I'm aware I have to be cautious with the blowing, I'm buying a Metro ED500 to blow out the dust (read this somewhere in an article about proper pc maintenance). I might use a can of compressed air too but those seem quite harsh pressured for tiny parts...
I've worked in the IT Infrastructure field for over 15 years. To clean my personal electronics i use THIS
Consider something like this instead. It seems expensive, but canned air can't even begin to compare - this thing will clean dust out of places you didn't know existed.
Just got one from Amazon (product link) last week. Thing blows like twenty of those dust off cans at one time.
It's a little pricey but canned air is expensive and now I can dust off as much as I want. Easily will make up the savings within months.
Keep it elevated, on top of a desk is the best. Make sure your rooms are vacuumed, and keep open bottles of water (or other liquids) out of the same room. Invest in one of these, they're awesome.
I've moved my PC twice, and have had it for 3+ years, and don't suffer from massive dust problems.
Small amounts of Water and oil are the problems with compressors. Better off to use a blower like the data vac
I use this because it already has a way to block moisture just so you know the biggest problem using a regular compressor is condensation in the tank. There are filters to stop this.
I bought one of these a little while back because I got tired of dealing with canned air. If you have the spare cash just trust me, this thing is awesome.
well compressed air cans are cheaper, but run out. An electric duster costs more upfront but will last you years. So it all depends on how often you are dusting stuff off with it.
Look, I know we're all die hard against dust, but think of the environment AND your wallet at the same time and pickup one of these:
Just make sure the PC is OFF and UNPLUGGED when you use this thing for best results.
When it's dirty.
I have this and it's wonderful.
Canned air works too, but you can use the electric duster to do other things too. I use mine to blow hair off of my sink after I'm done shaving with an electric razor.
I bought one of these myself, it paid for itself quickly instead of buying compressed air and I can turn it upside down unlike canned air!
Otherwise I blow out all our computers usually every month.
My favorite tool is this electric air blaster. It cleans my PC along with my keyboard pretty well!
I always suggest this guy. Easy to use, powerful and won't run out of steam. Sadly it's also expensive and very loud but it's much better than compressed air.
Maintenance wise I have a Metro DataVac for dusting my computer and peripherals. Safest way by far and For the price and not having to buy compressed air cans anymore it is definitely worth every penny.
Just an FYI: I got one of these DataVacs while yes its a lot (I got it for Christmas so that's a plus) But with removable filters I just take them out every few weeks and give them a blast before I do my usual vacuuming of my room and it saves a ton of time, and makes doing a full cleaning so much easier. I blast my desk every once in a while, and it is great for keyboards as well. In reality if you buy canned air, this thing will pay off in a year anyways. It has tons of uses for general cleaning, plus inflates air mattresses in like half the time of a regular pump.
Canned air is such a piece of shit that's expensive once you get to experience the handheld tornado.
Just make sure you tape the fans down so the blades don't spin while you blow into the case.
Get one of these guys and forget about canned air forever. You don't need to replace your Thermal Paste so quickly. Even not great stuff easily lasts 2-3 years, and the good stuff is rated for like 5+.
You're right, they can be. What happens is the little particles of dust that get pulled in can create a static charge, if that's discharged it could in theory damage your components. In practice I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you're keen on getting a blower/vacuum look for an antistatic version like this one [link]
They are more expensive but offer some protection.
If you're going to be cleaning once a month you shouldn't be building up a ton of dust. A can of air duster should get you through a few months cleaning. That's what I use.
If you notice dust around the side panels or around the openings here or there take a look at your fan configuration. this is a result of negative pressure in your case, you're exhausting more air than you're pulling in. This can be eliminated pretty much entirely by maintaining positive air pressure, adding an additional intake fan will usually get you there. If you have a more limited case a fan controller can be used to slow down your exhaust fans or speed up your intakes until you get the desired effect.
Filter your intakes. Search for magnetic fan filters. With any luck you should be able to just slap them on the outside of the intake fans, and still be able to get the case panels back on. This cuts out a huge amount of dust and take a few seconds to clean.
If your case needs to be on or near the floor vacuum regularly. At least a couple times a week. Keeping the environment dust free is the best first step to keeping your pc clean.
If you take the time once a month to give your machine a quick dusting with a can of duster it's gonna stay very clean and it won't be more than a 10 minute job for the life of your pc.
As a computer tech and stoner, this makes me weep all around. Try getting one of these guys, take 'em outside monthly to blow out. You don't want to breathe that shit in.
Oh well. Time to smoke again.
Best thing I have bought recently right here. better than the stupid hurricane air canister. I mean this thing is 3/4 hp in a small package it moves air!
I use this myself.
My only guess would people tend to shy away from them as they can blow a lot harder / not have the remove condensation feature / a lot harder to just point at and say get a can of air both cost and spec wise.
if you need to use a leaf blower every 6 months due to dust build up.... you seriously need to get some better case fan dust filters. XD
i live in the desert with 2 dogs and a cat, all shedding monsters. and after 6 months, there was barely any noticeable amount of dust in my case. the filters had a lot on it, but inside the case only had a very light layer.
i do use a vacuum like once a week or so through out the house, so that may contribute to cleanliness of case by limiting dust from the surroundings.
i just use [link] its far cheaper.
I use this DataVac duster for freaking everything. I blow the dust off my keyboard and desk and shelves, I dry components with it after ultrasonic cleaning them, I blow the dust out of electronics and pinball machines I'm taking apart (outside!). It's awesome.
I also swear by the Data Vac. It's actually a blower but you'll never have to buy canned "air" again. It's awesome. To clean, your console, just place a clean dry straw down the vent to keep the fan from spinning then dust away until your hearts content.
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