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ABUS 37/80 Granit Alloy Steel Rekeyable Padlock, Keyed Different?
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Thank you. Supposedly the German made Abus Grant is ‘cut proof’ and some Storage facilities require it.
>You're basically just requesting that every padlock review have a disclaimer that they can be defeated with bolt cutters.
No , there are different padlocks with different attack vectors. some can be picked easily , others cannot , some can be cut easily , others cannot. Here is an example of a similarly priced lock that is much more durable and cannot be cut with bolt cutters - https://www.amazon.com/ABUS-Granit-Padlock-Different-Rekeyable/dp/B004GE9H8W/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=abus+lock&qid=1561672463&s=gateway&sr=8-5
>File a petition to get the bolt cutter disclaimer amendment passed.
no need for regulation ... just stating the obvious that he neglects so other consumers can make well informed decisions.
This is a much better lock, when combined with a chain that's also hardened steel.
Don't lock your bike up outside over night.
If you absolutely have to make sure to use what's called an "insurance lock" in the EU. A lock from Medeco or ABUS that's meant for this sort of application will work, such as this or this lock. They can't easily be cut, can not be shimmed at all, and the people who are capable of picking a disc detainer or dual-axis cylinder aren't the type of people who are stealing bikes.
A lock is only as good as the chain it's binding. You want at a minimum what's called "Grade 70" chain, or the "Transport chain" in trucking. You'll want a couple feet of it at a 5/8" square link thickness, the one I linked is round and just an example of the grade you want. It's the alloy used to tie down loads to trucks. It's a high carbon alloy with a yellow zinc coating to make it easily recognizable to state troopers on the highway. When thiefs see that coating they move on to the next bike because they know their small manual bolt cutters are useless unless they're The Hulk... or cool with potentially bleeding out on the pavement. With that said, there are some crazy and crazy strong people out there who can get through even harder alloys than that with big enough bolt cutters. That's why you want to keep your chain short, tight and high. This way it's harder to rest the cutters on the ground and balance/leverage it under your foot. Don't buy your chain from a sporting goods store; more than likely those generic chains are not rated. Never use a cable chain to secure your bike, the ones with the plastic coating. With carbide hacksaw blade I can rip through one of those in seconds.
A chain is only as good as how you have it secured to your bike. Make sure you're wrapping it around the down-tube of your bike. Never the head tube, top tube, seat stays or chain stays. Also wrap it through the front wheel as well. Anyone can easily take your front wheel by undoing the front hub's quick release by hand. If it's held on with a threaded pin anyone can take it off with a simple wrench too. As I said before, short, tight & high.
How you secure your chain is only as good as what you're securing it to. If the post has an open top, like a parking reg sign, the bike can just be lifted over. Make sure what you're tying it to is securely lagged in to the ground and has a closed loop. If it's under a street light that's even better - but not to a street light. Never underestimate a thief's gangster in this town.
Not trying to kick OP while he's down but I thought this is a good opportunity to post a comment I found on youtube by THE Lock Picking Lawyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhzvHFphUtA&list=PLpIvUbO_777x9OAokuHY2XAdh_AWxb0MS
> As for a lock on an irreplaceable bike... don't trust it to any lock. With the right tools, there is no commercial bike locking apparatus I know of that can't be defeated destructively in a couple minutes with the correct tools (which bike thieves have). I have a cheap bike that I will leave at the metro station locked up with a 14mm chain, and an Abus 37/80 (ironically, the lock and chain are more valuable than the bike), but I would NEVER leave my high-end road bike locked up anywhere with any lock.
I did a search and an Abus 37/80 lock is just around $100 (Amazon), the chain I assume not much more. So it's quite a low threshold for price of bike you can leave out.
The Abus Granit is common in the US or buy on Amazon
The UK has a different approach to security. Their locks have to be rated to a certain level for insurance claims, and locks in the U.K are almost always significantly harder to pick than western locks. You can't really compare the UK to the U.S in this case.
https://www.padlocks.co.uk/advice/cen-insurance/
They even have a lock in the UK called "The Insurance Lock" specifically for these reasons: https://www.amazon.com/ABUS-Granit-Padlock-Different-Rekeyable/dp/B004GE9H8W
ABUS 37/80 Granit Alloy Steel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004GE9H8W?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
And
ABUS Hardened Steel 14KS 6 Foot x... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UMCCZO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
No one is getting through them. I use them in LA. Both are highly recommended from the lock picking lawyer on YouTube.
And get a apple air tag and put it some where on your bike that is not easily noticeable.
Maybe something like this. German made, strong as hell.
Why not just buy a $100 padlock? Sincerely curious, it's going to be way more secure than anything with a fingerprint for that price.
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