I got myself a little fan like this. AC Infinity AXIAL 1238, Muffin... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OWRMZ6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share . I set it close to where I'm working with it blowing away from me. It helps to pull the smoke away from your face and won't cool down your tip by blowing towards it.
Many thanks! Those fans are too expensive for me. This is what I'm using. Maybe with a plenum it will be more powerful. Otherwise I will have to upgrade.
Yep yep. Every time I bought a new chamber I cleaned it out with bleach, let it air out for a few days, wiped it down with distilled water, then vinegar, and let it air out for another hour.
I also found that this fan was a nice form factor for most curing chambers. It really helped keep the humidity in my chamber even throughout.
The only fan suggestion I have would be what not to buy, and that would be a muffin fan. Something like this.
It's not that it doesn't move the air around well, it did that, the issue is that it produces a lot of heat. It ended up causing my keezer to kick on far more frequently than it did before I installed it. I also put one in my fermentation chamber for kicks at one point and forgot to unplug it. It ended up heating the inside of the chamber up to over 90F before I caught it.
It’s a computer “style” fan but is wired for an AC outlet. Here’s a link to the one I have. If you do buy this, I would recommend also getting a speed controller for it as its default speed is VERY fast.
Yep, it moves 110 cfm believe it or not. I read that you don't want heat because it can damage leather gloves and boot liners. I have the cord plugged into a timer so I set it for 4ish hours and it works great. Here's a link to the fan I used
Thanks! No heating element - I had read that heat can dry out gloves and boot liners so room temp air flow is the way to go. Here's the fan I used. It fits perfectly in a box made from offset 1x6s and it moves some serious air for a little guy
Have you seen this one? AC Infinity AXIAL 1238, Muffin Fan, 120V AC 120mm x 38mm High Speed, UL-Certified for DIY Cooling Ventilation Exhaust Projects https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_7V8ZFbEW5D8M6
Wondering if it’ll work.. fairly cheap but has the AC infinity branding
Not yet but pc fans work pretty well. https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-Cooling-Ventilation-Projects/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=waterproof+pc+fan&qid=1607407026&sr=8-13
This is a great fan but is a bit loud. It packs enough force to ventilate my greenhouse. They also make tiny pc fans if you have a small terrarium
I bought this fan https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_RdADobrMDBnr9 and then just got a 1500w led I cut a hole slightly smaller on double high tote for it to sit. My next one ill use the same fan but line the roof of the second bucket with led bars and wrap led grow strip around the inside walls so the only light coming out would be from the fan and the plants getting light from every angle
Another tip I'll add is don't use a muffin fan for circulating air. Something like this:
It generates a surprising amount of heat. I once unplugged my temp controller but left the fan going and it got the inside of my chest cooler up past 95F. Heck of a diacetyl rest.
I used one in my keezer for a while as well and my compresser kicked on and off far more than it does now with something like /u/Wadofmeat69 suggests.
Do you think this fan would be enough if I am going to only have about a foot and a half of tubing? My printer is right next to the window. If not that one is not much more expensive and does have more than double the CFM rating.
Wat? Even the most popular booth on this sub (from Amazon) doesn't even pull 150 cfm. You can never go wrong with more power but it's like killing an ant with a bazooka. For hobby brushes I would recommend between 100-150cfm. Anything more and your sucking up more paint than is going on the model.
I do agree though that most bathroom fans are inadequate but suggesting you should get 450 cfm fan is insane unless he spraying a 1:1 car.
This is my fan
AC Infinity AXIAL 1238, Muffin Fan,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OWRMZ6?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
It performs more than well enough for model painting and is super quiet. Passes the baby powder test with flying colors and haven't had any issues with overspray getting sucked up.
8.7 sounds low, either way though 225 cfm sounds easy to get from a cheap fan and 225 is way higher than what the engine will put out. I think its a good plan. Maybe use a 120v square cooling fan. Not saying this is the one but:
This is what I'm talking about. I don't think heat would be too big an issue if the the cfm was high enough to pull extra cooling air. Maybe put the fan as far from the engine as possible and maybe use like stove pipe?
People won't be sleeping near this right?
I have the cost breakdown in the descriptions. The fan flows twice as much as a $15 bath vent fan (110CFM vs 50CFM). It was also roughly the same cost: $17 AC Infinity Muffin Fan
As for suction, it works very well now that I have a better filter. I also have a second fan, but I'm still not sure if I want to install it.
What do you think of this? Don't feel like whipping out my arduino and messing with pwm lol
I'll piggyback off the top comment here to address a few concerns people have.
Firstly, sorry for giving everyone a panic attack!
T*his water heater is no longer in use. We had a tankless water heater installed when we bought this home. The previous owner had bought this unit just prior to selling as the old one was very old. Because its owned I'm going to leave it here as a backup if I need it.*
Unfortunately for my lab I have a growing family and the ideal location had to be repurposed. This was the only spot I could salvage in an old home with limited space. My main concern was actually that this is also the laundry room and dust might affect the lifespan of the hardware. I installed a couple quiet 110 Cfm fans to vent heat and any dust into the rec room on the other side of the wall which actually do a really good job.
The only thing I actually bought here is the UDM-Pro and some parts and supplies to fix a few things. Otherwise they would have found themselves in the e-waste bin so I have very little invested (relatively).
There have been a couple questions about what is shown here so here you are from top to bottom:
The receiver and xbox go upstairs to the living room TV and controlled with an IR repeater
So there you have it, hopefully some of you can sleep better tonight! Had some good laughs at some of these comments. To the rest of you DIY labbers on a budget - the internet can be a cruel and misunderstanding place but dont let that stop you! At least I didn't build a deck!
I got it on Amazon.
I actually found one on Amazon that has a normal AC plug on it. Others are USB. I've tried ones that you wire yourself but seems like I can never figure it out.
Something like this.
Here are all the IKEA pieces needed:
These are the pieces for the exhaust system:
I printed a part that connect the hose to the fan, there were similar flanges on Amazon but they didn't fit correctly. I suspect using a more flexible hose would have worked.
Today I added this carbon filter to the intake of the fan, as I was still smelling some fumes. Hopefully it helps!
Just sharing what I cobbled together for an enclosure.
AC Infinity AXIAL 1238, Muffin Fan, 115V 120V AC 120mm x 38mm High Speed, UL-Certified for DIY Cooling Ventilation Exhaust Projects https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_2506SRP11GKYXFBVZM0M
POWERTEC 70153 Angled Dust Port, 4-Inch https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00M3JS7PQ/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_XGR9WC05FTPTASYH48M3
Plenty of doors available if you want glass or not.
It's not the cheapest option but I wanted something I could easily put away for awhile.
The lid can't be removed easily while inside the box and I plan on adding a pull out drawer which hasn't happened yet.
Just sharing for others to help brainstorm.
This is the fan I have do you think it would work well with the controller you have recommended ?
They said it was going to be noisy I just didn't think it would be that loud, it's my fault. I know I need ventilation yes but does it need to be constant?
Here's a fan https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009OWRMZ6
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Exact same size as the 12v fans, just with a 120v plug: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_XYJ7HQBQ8EGSRQ15X0GT
Got one of these AC Infinity on the side with a speed controller on it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_B8JK79TNB1W3Q2SMYYH7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The controller I got only had one input. Still debating on a second 120mm fan on the top or just use the AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_83MQ7YDFDF82W2V209E7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 looking at the specs the carbon fan is quieter than the 120mm fan.
Of course that's why I posted it. I stole it from etsy but I use an actual hepa. The one on etsy used a vacuum filter. Amazon has a 9 inch round filter that works well. I cut the hole just big enough to just slide in in up against the foam seal it comes with. I used this one:
Fan I used this one:
They work great.
That same fan is available in 120v.
Bucket Fan Adaptor and fan shroud - 3D printed from fellow redditor - Patrick https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fform.jotform.ca%2F71487754101254&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4e27e73ba3c1415b3f1c08d83aec6b74%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637324134376908049&sdata=Tqii2WXQgSj6iQWIRZw...
AC Infinity https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5TxlFbYRR7T7B
LED plant growstip https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DRCBV83/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Y7iITfe3ukue5
Thermopro TP-65 digital hygrometer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B076Q6HKLL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Yellow Jacket 2762 GFCI Plug-in https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000MM3Z6C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_SghEq34GjjLPA
Fan bucket adapter
White buckets painted black
Growstar Cree COB https://www.amazon.ca/FSJEE/b/ref=bl_dp_s_mw_20657513011?ie=UTF8&node=20657513011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=FSJEE
LED link connectors https://www.amazon.ca/FSJEE/b/ref=bl_dp_s_mw_20657513011?ie=UTF8&node=20657513011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=FSJEE
Very nice, I have one I picked up about 20 years ago.
Mine came from the original owner who was a marantz tech and took immaculate care of it. The only issue I have had is the fan bearing failed and it had a pretty nasty rattle. If yours has been unused for a while don't be surprised if the fan goes out once you start to use it.
The original 120v fan is long discontinued and NOS units will likely have the same issue from the bearing oil evaporating if you manage to find one. They also go for $50-$120 now.
I checked the data sheets for the original fan and found a ball bearing one that was very close in specs and was the same size.
It is a few Db louder and moves a few more CFM of air than the stock fan but the fan only kicks into high speed if you are pushing enough watts to heat up the Amp which means your speakers are going to drown out the fan noise anyways.
For $20 you may want to order one to have on hand or just preemptively replace it.
I also have the original shipping boxes for mine that I have never opened. I need to dig them out and see if the owners manual is hiding in there, I can't find anything for the 500/510/510m besides the service manual online.
I went ahead an replaced the fan after all. I bought a fan and a power adapter for it. I now have a working booth.
A set of less stupid questions:
I'm planning on using one 120mm fan as exhaust for a 10 gallon trash can plan. Should I add a second fan for intake? Would those fans work with a 120mm vent to 4 inch hose to charcoal filter?
I've got some Happy Frog plant soil, but I'm willing to pick up other mediums. What should I put in my 2.7gal air-pot before I put the germinated seed in? I hear good things about Perlite and shedded Coconut fiber (or something) but I have no idea what proportions to use and how to treat them.
It's an AC infinity muffin fan, more bad ass than a computer fan
Will this fan be a good one to use for a DIY spray booth?
Thanks for the recommendation. Any reason why you didn't go with the 38mm that are recommended for server racks?
Sure thing here's the link this one isn't quiet but isn't noisy, don't notice it unless I try hard enough.
I bought this fan and mounted to the back of the enclosure I built. Moves a lot of air and recirculates well.
You'll want something more like this.
Check these out as cheap (under $20) but much better alternatives:
https://smile.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-AXIAL-Muffin-Cooling/dp/B009OWRMZ6 (120mm, 110cfm)
https://smile.amazon.com/VenTech-VT-DF-6-DF6-Duct/dp/B005KMTYFK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496838497&sr=8-3&keywords=6in+duct+fan (6in duct, 200cfm)
I'm using this fan and then have a 6in to 4in duct reducer.
I am using this fan with a 4" carbon filter and it works great.
Probably not because then you will have stale old air sitting in your bucket when plants need fresh air in order to grow properly. I'd 100% recommend getting a cheap pc fan for intake man, at the very LEAST drill some holes lower down for passive air intake(and I don't mean small homes, 1/2" at the bare minimum, and a lot of them). What do you mean carbon filter? The fan I was talking about is this one:
It is very sturdy, simple, and moves a shit ton of air. There is no real use imo with adding a carbon filter on the intake unless you have really gross smelling air or something outside of your bucket. You COULD add a carbon filter to the exhaust if you wanted to help keep the weed smell down later in your grow, but that isn't until late veg/all of flower.
This is the exhaust fan I got, crazy powerful.
I just finished my first pc grow, 19 grams after a week dry when it went into the jar, so with some LST you can easily make that 3.5 grams a month mark.
Yeah my case had a window too, I scuffed it a bit and painted the inside with black spray paint, and used that same reflective material. I painted the reflective material black as well before gluing it on. Paint didn't do that great on either piece but it turned out acceptable once they were glued together.
Fans, I used these and I mounted a power strip on the inside of the case, it runs those 2 fans 24/7 and a timer for my lights, which are CFLs plugged into a 2nd strip. They are really noisy, though no splicing needed and they move a lot of air. I'm in a humid environment and didn't want mold. I did use a less powerful PC fan spliced into a cell charger hung inside the case to blow on the plant when it was small to help strengthen the stem.
If that case is steel and not aluminum, you may look at using mylar instead of the windshield bubble wrap and mount stuff using magnets. I used the windshield stuff it's too thick, so I split it using a razor blade so it'd be thin enough that I could put magnets on the back of my power strips and stick them to the back panel. If it's aluminum you'll have to mount with zip ties of screws or something.
You're gonna want a light trap. I used this style I got some PVC/vinyl "outside corner molding" or "corner guard" from the local hardware store for mine and left it white instead of black. This was just on the front intake, the rear exhaust had a carbon filter taped over it.
For exhaust filter I used these the smoker ones have actual chunks of carbon in them, there's also lots of cheaper diy versions out there, but I found taping one of these over the exhaust to be easier. I used some regular black AC foam over the front behind the front face plate but in front of the intake fan.
Can't help with that light, may order one myself, just make sure when looking at LEDs that it's not too wide for the case. Also see where the plug comes into the back, you may loose a good bit of vertical room due to cord and mounting. I used CFLs that were plugged into a normal power strip that was stuck to the back wall with magnets and it worked well. I could raise and lower the lights easily, but could only get 3 23watt (100 equiv) bulbs in that one strip.
You'll also want a roll of reflective foil/hvac/duct tape to seal all the corners and whatnot.
That soil has a PH of 6.6 so it'll probably be great.
I put my intakes towards the top of the bucket and my exhaust fan in the lid. It mostly depends on what type of pot you're going to use. If it fills your bucket then you'll want to have them high enough so the air isn't blocked. If there's some space around it then you could go lower but be sure to leave a little space at the bottom if you plan to make a drainage tray. I planned my bucket with a 3 gallon smart pot in mind so i kept the intakes high enough to not be obstructed. There's a link to my first bucket in my profile as Ekropf was kind enough to put it on spacebuckets.com. I haven't taken pics of my 2nd bucket yet, but it's similar. That site has lots of great pictures and info. If you do end up using an intake fan you'll want to mount it somewhere that doesn't blow directly on the top of your pot as it will dry out the top layer of the medium too quickly so the wet/dry cycle will be tough to maintain. I can't stress the passive intake enough. I was very much of the opinion that I was going to have 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan but some very good people here pointed me in the right direction before I started building. You can see the thread and comments in my profile. (Hoping I can pass along the knowledge I gained. The people on this subreddit are awesome and helped me immensely.) I was very pleasantly surprised by the pvc elbows. They're only about 80 cents each and since I had already ordered 2 fans I made a 2nd bucket. Also, if odor control is important to you then you'll want to maintain negative pressure in your bucket. Intake fans can lead to positive pressure and air leak whereas passive will guarantee negative pressure. Just Google it if you haven't read about it yet.
Regarding the fans; here's what I bought. They're plug and play for a regular outlet. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009OWRMZ6/ref=ya_st_dp_summary I also got lamp dimmers for my fans and they work great. Here's a link but I found them for 7 bucks at a local home store similar to Lowes or Home Depot. http://www.amazon.com/Lutron-TT-300NLH-WH-Credenza-Dimmer-White/dp/B0000DI241
I'd recommend getting a temp/humidity weather monitor and try your bucket with 1 fan first. You can always install a 2nd if needed. It's important to check temp/humidity with your pot and medium in the bucket...I found its much different than an empty bucket. Something like this... http://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00611A3-Wireless-Thermometer-Humidity/dp/B001B35APA
I found cheap bricks of coco at Petsmart. It's also used for bedding/substrate in reptile terrariums. Roughly 6 bucks for 8 quarts...add about 30% perlite or vermiculite and you can easily fill a 2-3 gallon pot. http://m.petsmart.com/h5/hub?id=/reptile/substrate-bedding/exo-terra-coco-husk-tropical-reptile-terrarium-substrate-zid36-5133039/cat-36-catid-500013?null
Here's what I did for led side lighting and power supply. It's not an absolute must, but definitely helpful from what I've read.
If you have any more questions, feel free to pm me. I highly suggest looking through spacebuckets.com though...it'll give you lots of different ideas and you'll be able to see how they work before building your bucket.
Hope this helps!