LOL, no it was this one: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB280HK-bprz-28-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530330845&sr=1-3&keywords=Acer%2B4K%2BGsync%2BMOnitor&th=1
It's a good monitor, but I've had it for a few years and the gsync actually conflicts with many of the other things that I do on the computer. So I switched over to an Asus model that is also 27". Not really missing it :)
What the heck, this message didn't show up in my inbox until today...
Personally I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
That said, the cost is pretty high on the one I use because a) G-SYNC monitors are expensive, and b) 144hz IPS panels are rare. If you're willing to sacrifice crisper colors for price, then there are a lot of cheaper G-SYNC monitors available.
> I guess it still looks better that 1440 @60 though correct?
"Looks better" may not be the right way to put it, but I will say that once you get used to playing fast games (e.g. shooters, racing games, etc.) at 144hz, it's really hard to go back to 60hz and not feel it.
GPU
If you can afford it, the GTX 1080 is worth it. 1070 is a great GPU though for 1080p/144hz or 1440p/60hz.
Monitor
That is a freesync monitor which is a waste if you're buying an Nvidia GPU. You would need a g-sync monitor to take advantage of the frame matching. It's also pretty large, I wouldn't go bigger than 27" but its up to your preference I guess. This paired with a 1070 would be amazing. It's an IPS panel with g-sync and 4ms response time.
Mobo
There's no need to get a full size motherboard unless you need the room for extra video cards or something. MicroATX is pretty normal.
> meant to write do any ips lcds you have seen do blacklight strobing... no idea why I wrote your plasma tv... except I had a long and tiring day...my apologies...
There are plenty of them. anything advertised with ULMB can backlight strobe. Here's one for example
>he point of mentioning the backlight strobing at all is about comparing apples and apples and not apples and oranges. I have never experienced a backlight strobing lcd so I can't say how good or bad it would be. And as long as I don't see anythign for myself or see the relevant numbers
backlight strobing reduces light output, but it has 0 effect on contrast ratio (it reduces peak output and MLL equally). comparing the MLL of a display is apples to apples, regardless of how the display produces it. The reason they haven't bothered releasing contrast numbers, is because its not terribly important, as they are clearly light-years better than any other display tech even with the black-smear fix. An LCD isn't even comparable.
I have the XB270HU, not Predator, version. and I absolutely love it. I've had it for about a year now and the higher resolution and high frame rates is beautiful. G-Sync is fantastic. I have no backlight bleed.
If you're looking to spend a little less I do recommend checking out the Qnix 1440p monitors. They're all at 60 hz but can be overclocked and come at less than half the price. I beleive there's a 1080p one that can get up to 210 hz in overclocking. I had the QX2710 and was able to OC it to 90 hz.
Hard to say since it's not my money. I'm perfectly happy with my 1440p 60hz IPS display, but I kind of wish I could go over 60fps..
What about a 27" 1440p 144hz IPS G-SYNC panel that isn't ultrawide? You wouldn't have to compromise as much with something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Honestly, you should get a 1440p+ monitor if you are going with the rest of such a rig. I would highly recommend the Acer XB270HU brpz or similar. I personally have a few of these on various rigs and couldn't be happier.
Secondly, you can adjust what is called "Render Scale." This is basically oversampling where it makes it higher resolution, and then shrinks it down. I run my 1440p @ 150% which is basically 4k. No, its not the same, but I wanted to keep 120-150fps.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
1440p doesn't look much better than 1080p while gaming unfortunately. But Windows does look significantly better scaled at that resolution. It's worth it for that imo.
Anyway, I have the XF freesync model (same monitor just with freesync) and it's amazing. 0 complaints.
Kind of similar situation for me.
With my new build I wanted to get a 1440p monitor so I got a one on a craigslist for about 300$. Its a ASUS XB270HU, at the time I hasd no idea about G-Sync.
Now realizing I'll probably be stuck with nvidia cards for the foreseeable future. But oh well I enjoy their cards.
Hey solomon34, thanks already for your recommendations :). If you don't mind I have a few follow up questions regarding your tips:
1) can you go into detail with the founder edition? Meaning, is the difference only the price tag, and is there a fixed release date for the non-founder editions yet? Because I have the following “problem”: I have now around 6 weeks to game, and afterwards I am quite busy again :( . So, the question is if in my case it would be smarter to go for the founder edition to get rid of the wait time.
2) monitor – what do you think of http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=pcgedit-20 ?
Best wishes, L0drik-
For a number of years my main monitor was a 23" 1080p IPS from Gateway. This is a fine monitor. When I got my newer monitor (one of these) I thought it was a decent incremental improvement. The other day I hooked up my old monitor (in the middle of a move, some stuff here other stuff there, gotta do what you've gotta do) and it feels awful. How did I ever use this thing? Everything is so choppy and this input lag is the woooorst.
It wasn't an incremental improvement. It was massive. The most important upgrade I've ever made. Go for it.
Okay I was looking for an ips panel thought because I've heard good things. But now I'm stuck between the rig swift. And this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UPVXDA8/ref=as_li_tl?tag=amazon0251-20&ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00UPVXDA8&linkCode=as2&linkId=DQNPKUTDHRSBL2IY. So I was wondering what the difference is between the swift and predator
Ok - I think I might like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
It's a 28" IPS, 4K (for only 50 bucks more than the 1440p model you suggested) The only thing I don't see here is the 144Hz refresh rate, but it has GSync. Wouldn't that solve the problem a different way? Seems like the 27 and 28 both have the light bleed problem.
don't go with the rog swift go with this instead
it is perfect in every way and cheaper
the panal in that moniter is the same as the new rog swift
ninja edit there are cases of black light bleed but it's not a problem for me ever
I've had a Acer XB270HU for quite some time and have been eye balling Ultrawides. I was only going to get the Acer/Dell one.. And well the decision was clear after this. That said, I don't know what I am going to do with my XB270.
Or possibly an Acer XB270H Abprz 27-inch if I really feel brave with my wallet...
This. Even with overclocked TitanX's you will have FPS dips in PoE, it is just not able to utilize it well. That said, G-Sync excels in mid to low range fps dips.
They aren't cheap, but the 27" Acer XB270HU bprz with G-SYNC would be my strong suggestion. I run these personally, and love them.
edit: Just pre-ordered my rift a few minutes ago, will let you know in March. I have seen no notes about GGG making PoE rift compatible though (please correct me if I am wrong), and it does require custom coding. I would not put a lot of hope into this for PoE. It is not the type of game that benefits.
Oh yea and the monitor I do want most is this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UPVXDA8?tag=theladybibleb-20&pldnSite=1 as its a 1440p 144Hz G-Sync Monitor with ISP However it would be a big hit to the bank If I was to get this monitor my system would take longer to get the money for the parts
However I do play on keeping my monitor for many years 7+ As I had my last one for 7 years and I think a high quality one should do just as good if not better.
However my other option was to get money for the Pc build it and then start working for a monitor because I was hoping by then there would be more models and stuff and prices would drop. What do you think.
One thing that worries me most is all the malfunctioning reviews everywhere on these good expensive monitors.
It really depends... Personally, I don't think it is worth that much money, so if you have the money and are willing to spend it then it's a good buy. It still makes a difference in gaming just not super noticeable. The BenQ vs the PG278Q is noticeably more different. The BenQ will just have the 144hz and some other features while the PG278Q will have fully adjustable stand 1440p and has g-sync.
The thing with both of these monitors is that they will still be a TN panel. So, the color will not be as vivid in some games and may be even dulled. Now, if you were to spend a little bit more and purchase the Acer XB270hu it would be a really good purchase as it is a 1440p IPS panel with g sync. They only difference is that it isn't as thin bezeled as the newer version XB271hu or the PG279Q from Asus.
Looking again it seems that not only is the XB270hu better than all previous monitors listed but it will also arrive before Christmas.
That is a decent monitor but it has Freesync which is for AMD cards. You will want one like this which has G-Sync as that is for Nvidia.
You'll be able to max out almost everything and depending on the game will leverage the full 144hz. (FPS)
> Acer XB270HU bprz
Yeah, i was looking at this as well, Amazon seems to have clumped this models reviews with the 4k model so it is hard to tell which one really has the issues.
I'm looking to get a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor like this but ACER don't appear to have a booth at the show this year. Anyone have any news on where I could get something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=pcpapi-20
The 28" (XB280HUK) is the one I'm talking about not the 27" (XB270HU)
Thoughts on this 4K monitor? I've heard good things about the 1440p version, but its $100 more. Or is this a weird resolution to have?
I'm upgrading my computer to a 980Ti and I'm really on the fence about 1440 @ 144Hz vs 4K @ 60Hz. I currently have a 60Hz 1080p monitor. I've seen how gorgeous 4K is but I have never seen what 144Hz can do and I'm really stumped on what monitor to get :-/
GPU. No point in your game looking crappy on a nice monitor and trust me, 900p and 1080p both look crappy on a 1440p monitor.
Also a 1440p 144Hz IPS is going to cost you more than $700
Assuming you have nVidia GPU, I'd go for Acer XB270HU
It's 80$ extra and you will lose 3ms response time, but it's a small trade-off for that glorious IPS panel.
I have the Acer XB270HU http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
I got lucky and mine came with no cosmetic errors or dead/stuck pixels or any massive backlight bleed. I don't even notice the bleed, even if I turn off my room lights and play on a relatively dark game - it's only when it's like an actual completely black screen that I even notice it.
And no DSR success at all. From my understanding - it's an issue with SLI+DSR+Gsync displays in that you can only have 2 of the 3. From what I've been told, the gsync aspect of this equation is monitor based as well instead of if you actually enable or disable gsync, so I don't even have an option of enabling DSR. Though I haven't tried turning off gsync and trying it. I'll try that later tonight or tomorrow when I play something and let you know if you would like.
The Gsync is very nice, but I understand that many people like their ultrawide as well. I suppose it just depends on what games you play and what kind of fps you're hitting in those games. If you're always capping out at 60 or 120/144 all the time and it doesn't sink, then yeah, just keep your ultrawide for now imo. But if you're playing a game where the frames may dip down to maybe 45 or so, then gsync may be something to look into. I just love this monitor regardless though. I would buy a second one, but I still use my PS3 for fighting games at the moment, and the monitor only has displayport input, and my desk isn't large enough for two of these Acers and my HDMI monitor x.x I believe there are some ultrawide gsync monitors out or coming out regardless though, so this may not even be an issue in the relatively near future.
If you have any other questions my inbox is always available :)
Almost! I was going to get it but then I discovered the Acer XB270HU.
I get an IPS display and the only sacrifice I make is with a 4ms response time instead of a 1. Everything else is essentially the same.
And since I'm not professionally competing, I'm not sure those few miliseconds really needed.
Or, quite frankly, if I could tell the difference.
There's room for improvement in the CPU/mobo/RAM department. You could upgrade to an X99 motherboard and a Broadwell CPU such as the 5820K. However, I would just wait until Skylake (i7-6700K) launches instead.
This GPU setup is virtually the best thing available at the moment. It should allow you to play most modern games at 4K, but certainly not for 5 years from now.
If I were to upgrade anything at this point, it would be either the CPU/mobo (wait for Skylake) or the monitor. A G-sync monitor will allow you to game smoothly even if your framerate isn't optimal at 4K.
I actually went with this monitor (I too have a 980). The reason I went with this is because the next card I'll buy (high end Pascal) will be able to easily hit >1080p resolutions at high framerate. So in a way, I'm "future proofing" a bit. Investing for the next few years.
Edit: This is a 1440p 144 Hz IPS Gsync monitor. Pretty much the best on the market for this resolution and refresh rate. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UPVXDA8/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
I know your budget currently doesn't include it, but I would say it is worth it to save up and have both
Since your budget is 2k, you might consider upgrading your CPU to Skylake. The i5-6600k is getting great reviews and is only $10 more in the US. You might need to upgrade your motherboard if you do that, I don't think the 1150 is compatible with Skylake.
Edit: also, a 980ti might be overkill if you're not planning on gaming in 1440p. If you want to really leverage your GPU, consider the Acer XB270HU.
Personal suggestion for Twitch, don't broadcast at anything beyond 720 in order to keep bandwidth down and reduce buffering for the viewers.
Also, consider saving for a bit and getting the Acer Predator monitor, that is a glorious piece of kit.
Expensive, but oh so GLORIOUS.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Everything looks great. Not sure how much the board is worth it price wise/features. But if you don't mind spending that amount no real reason to change. As for monitors if you want IPS the top of the line is this Acer. It may be expensive but pretty much this would be the last monitor you'd need for 10 years unless you went to 4k.
If you don't mind RMAing the monitor until you get one, I'd say go for it. Amazon has a good policy on returns, but like I said they currently aren't selling it because of all the returns, this is the first time I've ever seen this message on a product.
I haven't had any issues with FPS since the patch. I have a Titan X and averaged with just about everything on Ultra (except for Texture Quality that I lowered to the middle setting due to shimmering on certain objects..not FPS) between 40-55. Maybe because I have an Acer 144hz IPS 1440P Gsync monitor and when there is fluctuation the monitor takes care of it. I have vertical sync off and I hear that helps too. I recommend this monitor to anyone that is looking to upgrade...its amazing :-) http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
The 4k one is TN, the Acer XB270HU bprz is IPS. (Jesus Acer needs better model numbers).
Not talking about the 24 inch...
The XB270HU, which is what he linked in the comments.
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And provided with a link
Amazon unfortunately is not selling it at the moment due to a product alert. You can still buy it form 3rd party vendors on their site but I am skeptical.
Trust me, the color of any 120/144hz TN display you choose will pale in comparison with OP's monitor. His has an IPS panel display, which has better color accuracy than that of other displays. It's a fairly new technology.
Most other monitors have what is called a TN panel. I'm not very knowledgeable on the technical side of the panels, I just know IPS > TN for color. There is only one 144hz IPS monitor right now -- the Acer Predator, but it's $800. Unless you shell out for that, you have to choose between 120/144hz TN or 60hz IPS. It's personal preference, but if you opt for a 60hz monitor you will need to enable v-sync if you reach over 60 fps to avoid screen tearing.
Is a 144hz IPS panel too good to be true (as in are there any problems with these new type of monitors)? I'm new to this whole PC building and have heard that it wasn't possible to have an IPS panel with 120-144hz, until just recently.
If you had $600-$800 to spend, would you go for a monitor like that?
I believe this is a good example. Anybody who has had experience with these type of monitors, I'd love to hear what you think about it.
If you haven't experienced 144hz and aren't doing any hardcore competitive gaming, then IPS hands down. Another very important thing you shouldn't overlook is the screen coating. Glossy, Matte, or Semi-Glossy. Either go with glossy if it's going to be in an area with no sunlight, or semi-gloss to have the best of both worlds. Matte is just a bad idea.
Or, if you increased your budget, why not have the best of both worlds?! :) http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
For a little bit more, you could make this build a lot better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Two 1TB SSDs? There are only so many programs you can download. Putting all of your media, and documents files on your SSD will have no benefit, so they're better off on a hard drive. A single 500GB SSD with a 3TB hard drive has much more space and is a lot cheaper.
More RAM
Cheaper motherboard
A third GTX 980
A larger case, so that the 980s don't choke.
A larger power supply, so that the 980s receive enough power.
OP, make sure you invest in a really nice monitor setup. I would highly advise getting one of these monitors. It's 1440p, it's 144 Hz, it's got G Sync, it's IPS... seriously, it's got it all.
The Acer Predator XB270HU will literally give you the best in the current standard. 144hz IPS panel, 4ms GTG response time, 2560 x 1440 and G-Sync. Amazon link
Dude, I just realized you were asking me about monitors. I thought you were someone from another thread. Sorry...
I am unsure about which monitors I will be getting. I currently have Acer ZB270HU. I can't believe the price is $529 for these. They are 8-9 years old.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
I will be rocking these for a while until I find a great deal on some 4K HDR fast ms 32"s.
So I'm currently making a build for a RTX 3080 and am debating what monitor to get. Baseline I'm looking for 1440p 144hz. I want something thats going to look great running an FPS as well as large open world fames.
This is the cheapest G-sync ($550) IPS 1440p 144hz i've found: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ttnG3C/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz
I'm also looking at this G-sync ($400) TN 1440p 144hz: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YygQzy/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27bq-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-vg27bq
I'm also looking at this G-sync compatible ($380) IPS 1440p 144hz: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_tNeWFbRFJ20Y6
$550 is about as expensive as I would want to go so I would like to avoid that if possible. How noticeable is there a difference between G-sync and G-sync compatible? Based on the three above, which is the best value for the price? Is there any combination that you would recommend for an economical monitor that would look great with the 3080?
Any response is appreciated!
It's the Acer xb270hu bprz. It's a 27' 2560x1440 IPS panel with g-sync at 144hz. Along with the 1080, it is the absolute sweet spot for gaming.
Here ya go! https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Seems to have been discontinued... Here's the link anyways
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8#
Got 2 of them.
Nevermind I found the right link of the appropriate model ty for clearing that up for me. Updated the post to reflect it as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
1440p at 144FPS will feel butter smooth. The question is, do you have a monitor that can support it?
The cheapest one I can think of off the top of my head is an Acer, which is 27" and 700 bucks. That's not bad, all things considered. I'm pretty confident the first build I posted could do 1440p at 144 FPS. Honestly, even the second build could probably stay up in the 100-120 range
If you want buttery smooth gameplay, get a 144Hz monitor and the first build, and you're not going to wanna upgrade any time soon. Depending on how far you're going to sit from the monitor, you might want to get a bigger one than the one I linked.
Now, 4k is great and all, but you're not going to be getting much above 60 FPS on a 4K monitor, mainly because they're expensive as hell. TO give you an idea, this monitor is over a thousand bucks and isn't even technically 4k (though the Amazon page claims it is. It isn't).
Personally, though, I prefer ultrawides. They give you a wider field of view, as someone showed in a gif a couple weeks ago on this very sub. That second monitor right there, paired with the second build I listed, would put you under budget (meaning you could upgrade a bit), has the same pixel width as a 4K monitor, though not as much height, and should run at a pretty decent clip. I'm fairly confident that you could get 120 consistently out of it without overclock.
144Hz is beastly, and you can see the difference, but, trust me, moving up from a PS4, 120Hz is going to look amazing. Source: Have PS4, have 120hz monitor, computer looks better.
EDIT: I gotta hit the sack now, but I'll answer any more questionsin the morning. :D
Here is an amazon link https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
XB270HU BPRZ is not a freesync monitor or TN.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=amazon0606-20
Also, I mean future-proofing whatever comes next.
With a titan u should get a 144hz 1440p monitor with g-sync. Can recomend this one https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=amazon0606-20
What? Looks the same as this but just the European version: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Why's the cost of your monitor $400...?
The cheapest I find is actually $850* and it's on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
A better, newer, nicer looking(in my opinion) monitor also by acer, is only $800. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0173PEX20/?tag=pcpapi-20
Edit: Price*
Sadly that monitor is above $700 on Amazon. :/ Link: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8?th=1
My monitor needs are similar. I want one for gaming, but also that's good as I work in photoshop a lot.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8?th=1
Leaning towards this Acer, waiting for Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales in November.
Hoping this one becomes available in the US soon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-AG271QG-Monitor-Display-Speakers/dp/B01GTODWPU/ref=sr_1_1?tag=amazon0c83-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1472225043&sr=8-1&keywords=aoc+ag271qg
If I could get a better price on that than the Acer, I'd go with it.
I've been using the Dell S2716DG for some time now, and I haven't noticed much difference between it and the Acer XB270HU even in photo editing work after a doing color adjustment with a Spyder. Is it IPS? Nah. Response time is glorious as hell though, and it's a good chunk less expensive.
Added bonus of having G-Sync to go with your 1070.
Canada.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66K32N2778
https://www.amazon.ca/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
and plus a 13% sales tax
You're not going off the Amazon page here for the Acer are you?
If that's the case then perhaps convince him to rethink the two monitors. With $700 you could get a larger 1440p G-Sync monitor like this one from Acer: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
This is the model I bought. Which one do you have?
http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.HB0AA.001 is the monitor itself.
I just bought mine at MicroCenter for $551 total. It looks like it's more expensive on https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8 as well as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742
I checked Amazon for the Acer Predator (I'm looking into upgrading monitors myself in the near future) and am I missing something or is the 4k an inch bigger and cheaper?
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Ya, I was thinking something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
yeah, it's either than monitor or this one undecided between the two.
I think by FPS you're referring to how may it can show (Hz), which in that case possible to somewhat overclock monitors. If you're into FPS, I would recommend sticking with a higher Hz.
Third-Party 1080s are already coming out (IIRC) so you can probably find them in 1-2 weeks. The new AMD GPUS are being announced on the 1st, and will launch mid-summer (or earlier).
G-Sync and FreeSync do something different. Instead of limiting FPS, they actually adjust the Hz of the monitor. V-Sync is the original - what this did to reduce or eliminate tearing (when the monitor is receiving a new image before it can render the previous one, causing a de-sync image across the monitor) is simply make it so that your computer wouldn't output more than 60/120/144 FPS (depending on monitor Hz). G-Sync and FreeSync both actually move the Hz of the monitor around - if you're at 120 FPS, the monitor will display at 120Hz. 78 FPS? 78Hz. FreeSync works through mostly software, while G-Sync requires an expensive chip (sold by NVIDIA) to be implanted in the monitor (hence the price jump). This is a 27'', 1440p, G-Sync monitor...$$$ This doesn't have g-sync or a super-fast response time, but fits the size build otherwise. G-Sync is outrageously expensive (team red FTW, cfx, freesync).
Eh - You could go for that audio, and it would work. However, I really do think that people benefit from nicer audio. Gaming headsets are okay, but for the most part offer sub-par audio and a shitty mic for their price point, in exchange for "gamery" aesthetics. Something like the Audio-Technica M40X are around $70 and will give you very, very good sound. If you need audio to go along with it, you can either pick up a new audio cable with a built in mic (m40x have detachable cables) or something like the antlion mod-mic.
I believe the only monitor that fits these specs is the XB270HU
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8 I wanted 144Hz for future builds and since I do photo and video editing I wanted IPS so I went all out with this one.
>But I always need more screen real estate for twitter, YouTube, reddit, twitch etc.
Fair enough, I just needed to hear that you were intent on 144hz internet browsing for the time being.
If you're serious about making some huge upgrades to your GPU, and just don't want your monitors to be a bottleneck, there could be some really great options out there.
I have to ask, is a matching set of 3 really that important? You could have the two 144hz monoprice be your real estate monitors on each side while using that $600 for a much better quality, higher tier 144hz monitor as your center screen. NV surround still supports that setup.
Consider a G-sync 144hz 1440p and the more affordable Freesync 144hz 1440p.
The difference between normal v-sync or none at all is night and day with an adaptive sync monitor. Almost like the difference between 60hz and 144hz. And it helps with any GPU setup really, it smooths out how the display shows up especially if you aren't constantly getting the full 144 fps.
depends on your price range really, the best of the best currently is the ACER xb270hu
(from what i've heard has better QA than the ASUS PG279Q - of which has the same specs.)
Really depends on what you want to play.
Know you don't mention trades but worth a shot.
Have an ACER XB270HU and an ASUS MX299Q I am thinking of selling/trading, as well as Gigabyte G1 Windforce 970 once I get it back with Displayport replacements.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
This is yours? Or is it the H?
If it's the 1440p I might be interested since your price seems solid.
Before I PM, know you don't mention trades, just wondering if you are even looking towards a trade at all?
Have an ACER XB270HU and an ASUS MX299Q I am thinking of selling/trading,
Couple days late, but you looking for any trades at all?
Have an ACER XB270HU and an ASUS MX299Q I am thinking of selling/trading to get a 980ti.
This is rog swift specs and a IPS which means 4ms response time, not the 1ms shown in the ad.
Also these tend to not be very reliable if you look at the reviews
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8 Based on this that monitor is 144hz which would mean you could see 144fps
Thanks for the detailed response. I'm thinking of picking up the Acer Predator XB270HU soon.
This monitor? A few hundred out of my price range, unfortunately, but if I hold off on a new monitor I'll definitely consider it, thanks.
If you have the cash, get Gsync 1440p monitor like XB270HU bprz, great for gaming. It's an IPS monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
anyone on here or on /r/pcmasterrace or /r/buildapc would give you the same advice im gonna give you now which is: build a pc.. buy different PC parts by choosing them from different places where they are either given a discount or are most accessible..
if what you're talking about is a pre-built (a whole PC built by a brand which they sells as a whole) it usually comes with a premium price.. and you can usually get better PC with that price if u build instead..
if you want to ONLY play CSGO on your PC then i suggest the following:
CPU: Intel i5 4590 or i5 4690K (if you wanna overclock)
GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 960 (Asus Strix) or AMD Radeon R9 380 (sapphire nitro). Get the 4GB version if you're getting nvidia.
Motherboard: since you're not a power user, I'd recommend a cheap intel B85 chipset.. but if you're overclocking msi's z97 motherboards are pretty nice.
RAM: Gskill/corsair 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Mouse: logitech G502 is one of the best mice around for FPS... if you want you can also get the budget G502 which is logitech G402.
Monitor: now if you're playing CSGO and u want smooth experience, heres where you're gonna have to spend hard.. get a 144 Hz monitor and trust me, you wont ever look back. look at this monitor by Acer... i linked acer since you said you can get a deal from acer...
however, look at this list of 144Hz monitors and see which one suits you better.. couple of things to remember though:
this is just a very abridged suggestion about what you should buy.. you definitely will get wayy better suggestions in /r/pcmasterrace and/or in /r/buildapc
good luck!
edit: Other peripherals such as power supply, hard drive/ssd, keyboard, casing are not gonna be that important for CSGO so im gonna leave them out of my list for you. you can get advice on them in the subs mentioned above.
Thanks for the feedback!
Are you referring to the XB270HU?
I think the Acer XB270HU bprz might be the best bang for the buck right now.
$566.99 for 1440p, 144hz, G-SYNC, IPS.
I'd get a Gsync monitor. Asus recently launched this beast. Damn thing will go up to 165Hz on GSync. There's also the Acer Predator that competes with that Asus or its baby brother (144Hz).
Not sure what the conversion is from USD
Acer XB270HU is a GREAT option. I own one myself
Just found out http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-XB270HUbprz-27-Inch-Monitor-16/dp/B00U2FE3HY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451167184&sr=8-1&keywords=acer+xb270hu its a bit over your price range but I would still say its a great option
There's also this one from Acer that's pretty sweet.
Got a new PC with an i7, gtx 980ti, and this guy. GTA V looks absolutely gorgeous.
get this instead it's an IPS monitor and that asus monitor has terrible quality assurance
I would find a little more money if I was looking to spend it all and get Acer XB270HU bprz.
1440p 144hz 27" 4ms IPS with GSync
I currently have the ASUS VG248QE.
I use the ACER XB270HU 1440p 144hz IPS G-SYNC
EDIT: Just saw your budget, I would go for a 1080p 144hz IPS Panel.
Amazon has it for $50 less, if that helps any
How about this one? http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=amazon0606-20
1440p, Ips, G-Sync, 144hz
Unfortunately not. The Acer XB270HU 27-inch 1440p G-Sync panel is IPS not TN and costs $750-800. There is an Acer XB270H 27-inch G-Sync panel for $500, but it's 1080p, not 1440p.
Something like this no good?
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
How's the input lag on this monitor?
if you want 144fps, you will need 1080p. A 970 doesn't do 144fps on 1440p. I have a 1440p monitor and a overclocked 970 and I pull 60fps on high settings. Not even on ultra in the newest most demanding games.
In terms of 1440p 144hz or 1080p 144hz, Acer's predator monitors are pretty much king atm. The BenQ is also very good. But that is still a TN panel last time I checked.
One of those 2, pricey, monitor is your best choice 1440p144hz That 1440p 144hz panel is without a doubt the best one on the market right now.
It also comes in a 1080p variant in 27 inch and a variant in 24inch
Also here is a link to the BenQ 24inch and BenQ 27 inch
As you might have noticed, the Acers are more expensive. This is due to them having G-Sync while the BenQ's do not have that. More on G-Sync here
Now you will not be pushing ultra setting 144fps on any of these monitors or new games with a single 970. However that doesn't mean it's not worth investing in a good monitor. Your monitor will most likely outlast your gpu anyway.
If anybody has any corrections feel free. I am not a monitor expert, I have had hands on with the 1440p144hz Acer and it's absolutely amazing. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I had the money haha.
hmmm, true that. I forgot about the g-sync pushing up prices.
you've probably seen this monitor in your research, it's on the high end at $780. most likely too expensive.....
you could go for the r9 fury for $500?
edit: How could I forget the ROG swift??!! it's only the most popular g-sync 1440p 144hz monitor out there and at $650 its only $70 more than the asus mg179q.
but this would push your budget to around $1300 with the most common 980 ti at $650 and the monitor at $650 as well. This will give you everything you ask for, but at 300 over what you want to spend
The Acer XB270HU does support G-Sync.
Also considering
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
At the 1440p point. and + for IPS.
I know this build is way overkill for gaming anyway but i feel if you have such great hardware you could put more than 60 fps in any game. So it's kind of a waste to not have 120/144hz.
From your answer from the comments on the site
>The Dell 5K panel is beautiful and the highest resolution display you can reasonably find right now. Find us a 144Hz panel with at least 4K and we'd be happy to check it out. They don't exist, of course, as 4Kp60 is nearly maxing out DP 1.2 and 5Kp60 is maxed out. Right now, you either have 4K at 60Hz or 5K at 60Hz, but if you want 144Hz you're limited to 2560x1440 -- and generally a TN panel to add insult to injury. Or there's the Acer XB270HU, which is IPS 1440p144, but while possibly the best gaming display overall, we'd rather have the 5K Dell IPS. Maybe 3-way 1440p144 displays next time?
There is no word about gaming in the article so this build is not supposed to be for gaming but you could have someting like this or even this if ultrawide is not good. You know a lot more than me and this build was never supposed to be for gaming but nowdays i feel that going below 100hz is kind of waste of hardware. 144hz feels way more useful than 4k/5k.
I do play CS:GO occasionally (gun game ftw) but I never really noticed, i have a 980 and a 144hz TN monitor (XL2411z) with ULMB turned on. okay well that explains the cooler, living on the dangerous side with OC I see, be careful! yeah man I cannot recommend that monitor enough it is almost perfect. G-Sync, 1440p, 144hz, 27", only flaw is that it is TN and not IPS! there is another monitor by asus that is all the above except its Free-sync (AMD compatible only) BUT it is IPS panel, and it has 4ms response time as opposed to the ASUS ROG SWIFT i mentioned that has 1ms response time
This their latest with G-Sync + IPS, but at the cost of 4ms response time, although honestly I would say it doesnt make a huge difference but for the hardcore CS:GO player it might. All these monitors cost an arm and a leg though lol
Wrong
Freesync Widescreen http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-29UM67-P-ultrawide-led-monitor
G-Sync http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/
27", 1440p, 144hz, IPS
FYI Amazon dropped their price on this to $719
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UPVXDA8
edit: $719 looks to be prime price
Are you referring to getting a 144hz monitor, or do you actually want to get 144fps with all settings maxed out?
If the first option, then there is a 144hz 1440p IPS 27" 4ms G-sync monitor right here. LinusTechTips video on it here. However you're last question ruins it; if you expect to spend $200 think again. So no.
For getting 144fps, many new releases can't get that high at max settings even at 1080p; it really depends on what games you are referring to.
Sure, but I must warn you...^It's^really^really^expensive...
While those could be true, I think you should just read the experiences of actual monitor owners instead of taking my word on the subject. Check out the owner's club on Overclock.net and the discussion thread on Hardforum.com. Just start from the last pages and work backwards... it is basically just page after page of dead pixels, backlight bleed, dust, etc, etc. Also look at the Amazon and Newegg reviews. Many people are praising the features, but a lot of reviewers are also talking about quality control issues.
Let's start you with one of these http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/ref=psdc_1292115011_t2_B00VRCLHYS And leave 150$ for your pc
>I was looking for something like a 1440p monitor with 144hz refresh rate.
The Acer Predator. Enough said.
I think the only one that exists is the Acer Predator. Although Asus is coming out with PG279Q in the fall probably.
The Acer Predator
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
980 Classified. I keep coming back to this as a good all around option.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=pcpapi-20
$800 for a 1440p 144Hz IPS panel monitor. Quite a bit more. A TN panel is $450, but it has Freesync, not Gsync.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009769&Tpk=N82E16824009769
For a single GTX 970, I still think the 1080p 144Hz Qnix is the way to go. Either that or the 1440p Qnix QX2710. If you get the QX2710, do not get the True10, off-grade or SE models. Get the single DVI input PLS model. Matte or Glossy is your preference, but apparently the Matte ones overclock a tad better. That's probably just a rumor though. Link for easy searching
$450? Where are you getting that from?
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Thanks for the response.
In a couple months I want to get http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8 I want to be able to take advantage of all those features.
If my wife permits.
Woops, forgot to mention what monitor I'm looking into. It's the Acer XB270HU. http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=26MUQ15E9KQYN&coliid=IH6LP2R19QOK7
I would do 1440p/144hz unless you have a budget.
Example: Acer XB270HU
Is it this one? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8
There are few other things you have to consider... do you want G-Sync? Do you want a IPS or TN Panel monitor?
Few personal remarks – In my opinion, IPS panels look heaps better due to it's more accurate colour representation, which results in a much more beautiful and vivid visual experience. Not to mention, there's a 144 Hz + IPS + G-Sync monitor out right now! Only thing is that it is 1440p, but that's an advantage right? ;)
Now to recommendations, IMO...
Here are the top three 1080p + 144 Hz monitors out right now:
^ The above two are essentially the same thing, 24 inches, 1080p, 144 Hz, 1ms response time, same LED (TN Panel) technology. ALTHOUGH! Some reviews online have said the BenQ looks much better than ASUS even with the ASUS running in game mode... which might explain the price difference!
However, this special one right here comes with the above things, AND G-SYNC. Which is a blessing to the eyes... But seriously your wallet makes the final decision ;)
If you expand your budget, you can get a 1440p 144hz IPS G-SYNC panel
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
Otherwise, you can get a 1440p 144hz TN panel
Theres only one 144hz IPS and its 27", 1440p, Gsync and $800. Acer XB270HU
Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8
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The Predator is only 50$ more and has an IPS panel Besides aesthetics, the Predator wins in every category
The price isn't that steep when you account for the included games and controller being nearly $200 worth of stuff at retail. But I suspect they came in high and needed to bundle some extras to make the price/value workout. We are effectively paying $400 for the headset and $80 for the controller (what Amazon sells it for) + 2x$60 for launch games. But also remember that the real competition is a really a good gaming monitor like this.
But yea, GearVR gets to have a pretty cool and clear niche now. Which is sweet.
It's selling them for $719 right now. I bought one yesterday.
Edit: Link http://smile.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8?sa-no-redirect=1
Double Edit: 3 left in stock!
Triple Edit: Annnnd they're gone. You can still order them for $719.99, though, in the "Other Sellers" section (from Amazon).
The stand is not matte but the rest is spot on. This monitor is listed since january of this year so it is not new.
If you're keen on the ROG Swift, also look at the acer predator: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435130359&sr=8-1&keywords=acer+xb270hu&pebp=1435130361622&perid=1S7NTGTEK88DAR48Z2C7
Alos 1440p 144hz Gsync, but with IPS instead of TN. Better colors and viewing angles.
Need gaming AND color accuracy? Easy, only one answer. 144hz and IPS: