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Check for pre-wired coax drops. If you have a drop near your workstation, then perhaps this could help.
I have beed using for years to wire Workstations and WiFi pucks in the back of the house - very stable - very fast.
These adapters have 2.5gbe ports..i should get these if i wanted to get fibe 1.5...
And pick up a CAT 6a, 7, or 8 cable. I would grab an 8 cause I hate slow internet so I over engineer.
ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ML1TSXC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I’ve got a couple of these throughout the house because I haven’t had time or inclination to run cat6 everywhere yet. Haven’t had any issues yet. Only complaint is that I of course can’t use the PoE from my fancy switch :/
Definitely need MoCA adapters for that. I have these and they work great: https://www.amazon.ca/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=moca+adapter&qid=1661445821&s=electronics&sprefix=moca%2Celectronics%2C103&sr=1-4
thats... that coax .. you dont know what cable looks like? im old.
you can buy some Ethernet-over-coax things if you dont want to run new cables, but you might add some latency.
ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5 Network Adapter for Highest Speed Internet, Ethernet Over Coax - Starter Kit (Model: ECB7250K02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B1VZ21R4CJJ4WD1BPMG1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Verizon misunderstood the question. They thought you were asking about coax/MOCA from the ONT to the router.
It depends on how you do it, which router you have, and whether you use the routers built in MOCA or not.
But if you buy a pair of ScreenBeam MOCA 2.5 Bonded adapters they will do gigabit over clean coax.
Limited-time deal: ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5 Network Adapter True 2.5 Gbps Ethernet Port for Ethernet Over Coax (2 Pack) – Fast Streaming, Gaming, Work/Learn from Home (Model: ECB7250K02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dl_S6JWQJBY08ZJM5T6V24F?psc=1
Okay thank you, I’ll review this and reference that post again. I’m looking at this listing on Amazon right now. Would this product work for my purposes? 2 pack moca adapters
Ethernet over Coax. Up to 1 gigabit/sec — real speeds not BS. I use it myself for each of my multimedia centers/gaming PC’s/wireless access points where running Ethernet is not practical.
Actiontec by ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5 Network Adapter True 2.5 Gbps Ethernet Port for Ethernet Over Coax (2 Pack) – Extremely Fast Streaming, Gaming, Work/Learn from Home (Model: ECB7250K02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FWJ2RA1VK9GQFX8HT6CF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I also have a townhome with a similar set up as you are describing.
I have 1 AP on the base level and 1 AP on the top floor.
Works great. I didn't do mesh because I didn't want the performance performance hit.
I use the following:
https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/
Yeah, I've just ordered these yesterday actually but it will be a few days before they get here so I figured I would try to troubleshoot this more in case these didn't solve my problem.
I think with these I should also upgrade all of my splitters to ones that support MoCA 2.5 as well right?
That said, if you require both MoCA WAN and MoCA LAN, and can't isolate the MoCA WAN connection to its own, separate coax, the MoCA 2.0/2.5 specs allow for operating 2 MoCA networks on the same coax, at D-Low & D-High frequency ranges ... though at a cost to maximum throughput:
- D-Low (1125-1225 MHz): 400 Mbps (1 channel)
- D-High (1350-1675 MHz):
-- 400 Mbps for standard MoCA 2.0 (1 channel);
-- 800 Mbps for bonded MoCA 2.0 (2 channels);
-- 1200 Mbps for MoCA 2.5 (3 channels max)
... so not really useful for a true Gigabit setup.
You'll need to get familiar with your coax plant hierarchy to determine if the MoCA networks could be isolated from each other, to avoid the throughput cost.
This is where people usually resign themselves to the router being located at the ONT.
p.s. A more adventurous solution combining MoCA WAN & LAN over a single coax line might be using VLAN-capable switches on either side of a coax line linking a pair of MoCA 2.5 adapters -- bonus points if able to use the new Actiontec ECB7250 adapters w/ 2.5 GigE NIC. (just brainstorming, here)
Just an option - If your wiring coax is rg6, then consider using MOCA. This is what I have been using and its going great.
If your house has coax TV outlets, have a look at using MoCA > MoCA provides an in-home network backbone for WiFi, or dedicated Gigabit Ethernet connections using the existing coax wiring in your home to deliver fast, consistent speeds of up to 2.5 Gbps
That's up to the ISP. You can get coax to Ethernet adapters if all you have is a coax run, like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-MoCA-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/
Yup! It can be a bit of a pain to set up because you may need various filters, etc. But once you have it set up, you'll be able to have fast Ethernet connectivity in any room which has a cable outlet. Really useful if you have devices in other rooms that could benefit from having low-latency for gaming, video conferencing, etc.
Here's the starter kit that I have: https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/
I have one plugged into my office closet, attached to a cheap switch that's plugged into my router: https://i.imgur.com/VctPYvq.jpg
And here's another one, in my TV stand, which is plugged into another cheap switch: https://i.imgur.com/kzLdsuw.jpg
Thank you very much for the help!
so right now what I have is
- A coax cable connects the wall and a coax splitter
- A coax cable connects the coax splitter to the screenbeam moca adapter
- Another coax cable connects the coax splitter to the netgear modem
- An ethernet cable connects the netgear modem to the google wifi router
- An ethernet cable connects the wifi router to the moca adapter
4 and 5 sound like what you described above, but do 1-3 sound right?
There is a coax light that is not lit up on the screenbeam moca adapter - so pretty sure that means something isn't right in the above setup.
I think this setup is what the scenario A instructions here are showing - but the instructions just show a single device for the modem/router while mine are separate so not sure
Hey mate, read through your comments. is your moca network still running well? i plan to buy action tech 2.5 and was wondering if it would run over my coaxial cables from an unused pay TV connection. https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sw_img_1?smid=A4XRJ8S0WXSO0&th=1
Is there anything else that i should look out for?
I'm not tech savvy, which POE filter would you recommend? my house is connected to nbn but also has two tv cables running into each room. (house built in 2009).
Thanks
I use Bonded 2.5 MOCA throughout my house where Ethernet is not practical. It supports full Gigabit wireline speeds with at most 1 to 2 ms of additional latency. They're great!
Both links, ScreenBeam and Frontier, link to the same page (ScreenBeam): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ML1TSXC/
If the Frontier adapter is either an FCA251 or FCA252, you’d want to make sure that their configuration toggle switch was set to whichever setting maps to use of the full Extended Band D frequency range: “Full” for the FCA251 and “LAN” for the FCA252. (see here)
If the Frontier adapter is still causing issues with the setup with the toggle switch set correctly, and after a full power reset of the adapters (all powered down for a minute), then an incompatibility would be on the table.
Brilliant, yes, that is how my network is currently laid out. Can MOCA adapters interfere with each other if they are not the same brand?
I have a set of these: ScreenBeam
and one of these in the living room: Frontier
Is there another eero near that gateway one? You mention trying to force it to connect to a certain device. Eeros (and most mesh devices) have issues if they are too close. Try moving the other eero that your device is incorrectly connecting to, or remove it completely and see if you still have adequate coverage around your house. It took me a few attempts and restarts but once I got my placements correct it made a huge difference. Also placing some further away and using a "wired" connection of https://smile.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3DG6XQ9IR388O&keywords=moca+2.5&qid=1656797434&sprefix=moca%2Caps%2C119&sr=8-4 into a switch near my gateway also made a huge difference as I was able to move my other errors further away from each other.
These are what I use:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ML1TSXC?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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Full 2.5gbe throughput, no issues. Made sure to drop a filter at the cable modem to avoid any headaches (sometimes if I rebooted the adapters, it would conflict on a frequency with the cable modem).
Ok, actually you can get up to 2.5 gig, here is a 'starter' kit from Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=Moca%2BCable%2BModem&qid=1654467455&sr=8-11&th=1. More if you just google "moca routers". you would have to patch the two cable runs together in your comm closet (where all you coax terminates). Unless the cables runs are over 500', there won't be measurable jitter or latency.
Hey /u/Junk-Account69420
Tagging onto what /u/GraySquirrels has said, you would be best off bringing the router/access point (AP) close to your headset, while your PC can be anywhere in the house but hard wired.
To accomplish that, you could run a cable from the router/AP to your PC, or if you have a coaxial jack near your PC and play area, you could use a pair of Moca Adapters like these: ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5 Network Adapter.
Our play area is downstairs in our living room, which has a separate AP just for VR that is connected to our router and PCs upstairs through Moca Adapters at each end. Works great!
If you do, just make sure you install a MoCA Point of Entry Filter where your cable enters your place, so your signal isn't leaked outside your house.
The amp: https://i.imgur.com/sYodG93.jpg
They basically said the MoCA signal would not be able to make it past that device, that it would be contained within the home.
I think this is the official info for it and similar models: https://www.commscope.com/globalassets/digizuite/61573-bda-drop-amplifier-ds.pdf
These are the MoCA adapters we got: https://www.amazon.ca/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/
One is being used at the modem, the other at the computer that needed the connection, separate rooms. I know you can sometimes get away with only 1 adapter but that your speeds then depend on whether the device acting as a MoCA adapter supports MoCA 2.0 or 2.5 and such.
I'm not sure if the XB7 supports MoCA 2.5 speeds when acting as part of a MoCA connection, but we're only upgrading to 1 Gbit (though I believe that's faster than MoCA 2.0 supported). When you said XB7 is MoCA-capable, were you trying to say that the frequency range overlap should not be an issue and therefore I wouldn't need a filter at the modem?
I believe the instructions specifically said the filter is supposed to connect between the splitter and the modem, so I'd assume if I'm understanding they're referring to if the modem is one of the "initial rollout" ones that are problematic, and not later DOCSIS 3.1 modems?
If a PoE filter is required for that new modem and it's not installed, what kind of problems should I expect? Lag, low speeds, buffering, instability, or perhaps it wouldn't work at all?
So, Ethernet is best, if possible. But I use MOCA extensively throughout my house. It's pre-manufactured, multilevel, and very difficult to run new wiring. I have MOCA installed at each of my TV/Media centers, for my son's gaming rig, and a few of wireless access points.
You need at least 2 total MOCA bridges. Place one by your router/switch to inject the ethernet signal on the Coax. Then place the second (or additional units) at point of use. At point of use you can also connect a small ethernet switch (I use netgear) if you have multiple devices.
Buy these (I have the 2.5 - 1 Gbit Ones; didn't realize they came out with newer 2.5 Gbit ones).
You may / will likely have to replace your COAX splitters as well. You need high quality Gigahertz range ones like these.
As long as your Coax is in fairly good shape / high quality cable co variety (not Radio shack / Walmart variety) and you don't have crazy 8 way splits you should be fine.
DECA is a DirectTV Branded version of MOCA. It uses the MOCA standard, and is sold to link the ethernet ports of DirectTV receivers to an existing MOCA network.
I don't have DirectTV to test with, but Actiontec MOCA 2.5 Bonded is what you want for true Gigabit over Coax needs.
Not inexpensive, but worth every penny in my opinion. Reliable, fast, very low latency. 2nd only to real Ethernet.
MOCA (and DECA which is MOCA) does not interfere with Cable TV, usually. The MOCA adapters perform a handshaking to check which frequencies above 1GHz are available. Some can also be set to use specific frequencies on their admin web pages. You will need high quality Coax splitters which can carry up to 2.5GHz.
Check out moca adapters they work a little better than powerlines imo.
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