This might be a bit of a long shot... could he be referring to Alexa, the personal assistant voice that comes with the Amazon Echo?
He might have seen a commercial or something for it. Since Alexa's voice is disembodied and comes straight from the device, he could interpret that as a ghost.
The Echo comes in either black or white and has a blue light that rings around it.
Same here, but I imagine users of Amazon Echo might be tempted to; they already paid to bug their own house so why not pay to let the same guys go into the house as well.
Considering they have been collecting all of our electronic communications, our phones track our locations and people are willingly installing open mics in their homes that records everything from family arguments to your TV viewing habits, I'd say we don't have much of the 4th left.
If the 4.3 stars out of 5 on Amazon aren't telling enough, feel free to read the 44,000 reviews of the Amazon Echo. https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Echo-Bluetooth-Speaker-with-WiFi-Alexa/dp/B00X4WHP5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476213978&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+echo#customerReviews
It is probably is easier to write about what it doesn't do, especially since they keep expanding the functions. It can do web lookups, math, todo and shopping lists, integrate with Pandora, Spotify and other music services, integrate with home automation technology, Nest for example but connected light bulbs and other systems as well, and of course it can buy things off of Amazon for you just using the sound of your voice. That is nowhere near the whole list though. This page on Amazon has the info on the Echo.
> but we have every other reason to suspect it’s not a listening device
Really? You wrote that?
Here's a quote from the official page https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E
"Echo has seven microphones and beam forming technology so it can hear you from across the room"
It's one thing not to know the source code. But the company is literally black on white marketing its microphones listening to your voice commands as a sales pitch for you to buy the damn thing. And then you come back to me still persisting you have no reason to suspect it's a listening device? The device has microphones in it. It's purpose is listening. That's the reason people are buying the friggin device in the first place. How in the world did you miss that detail? And then you claim to know how the thing works deep inside its proprietary silicon microprocessor? Dayum. I don't know how you will manage to recover from that one. Maybe with some name calling insults? Now it feels like arguing with a door knob.
It's called the amazon echo
I'm not overly familiar with the capabilities of the Echo/Alexa, but the examples of voice commands given on the product page seem to indicate it is capable of interpreting fairly conversational phrases, not just a limited set of preset commands.
If this is the case, would it not just be a matter of it making a record of the commands it interprets? It wouldn't need to convert them to legible text, that could be done later by Amazon.
It is an Echo without the built-in speaker. In place of the Echo speaker, there is a cell-phone quality speaker. If you look at the tech specs of the Echo, most of physical space of the device is the speaker. The Dot doesn't have that, and stands only 1.5" tall.
The only difference in capabilities between the two devices, as I understand it, is that the Dot has a standard 3.5mm audio output jack and also allows for audio out via Bluetooth.
We do timers for everything. I'm a tech geek so we have an Amazon Echo that we'll use to set timers for bath time, bed time, anything that we need him to do. He loves it. When it goes off he's the one that says "Alexa, stop" and then does whatever task the timer was set for.
When we don't have a digital timer we'll simply say "5 minutes until we leave" or whatever and then we'll count down every minute. That's always worked for us. We found if you just take a kid out of what they're doing with no warning, it doesn't go well, at least for us.
lol k.
If it isn't the Americans, it is every other intelligence agency.
And "knowing" it exists? Shit, that was pretty common knowledge before the wikileaks. Fuck, we pay for a listening device to sell us shit.
If it connects to the internet, then you should always assume it can be hacked externally. My question for you is; why the fuck do you think you are so interesting that intelligence agencies are gonna waste time and resources recording you?
edit Oh, this is why
Sorry, you still aren't interesting to intelligence communities.
Probably worth noting the big brother Echo is currently $99. List price is $180
It's super hard to have a getting started guide at this point since everything is wicked fragmented. It is also really difficult to automate everything in the home because there simply are not applications to automate everything.
One of the main problems that we have today is that there is no one standard to rule them all, so if you pick one standard chances are your garage opener won't connect to it, nor your thermostat for example. There are almost an overwhelming number of options on the market right now. I am going to try and give you a little bit of a overall getting started post.
Firstly, since you are building your house right now, you are in an amazing position. Make sure when you wire your house that you put low voltage wiring everywhere, run cat6 cables to every room and tie it all together from one access point (or even a proper server rack with switches and space to house all your networked devices) which will be your tech mission control. Doing these two things will in a way "Future Proof" your home so that as new tech comes out you will be in a good position to take advantage of them.
Next you have a decision to make, which is more important to you? Which do you use more in your household? Apple? Or Google?
Right now these are the two companies poised to massively take over the home automation market. Now they will not necessarily be producing their own devices, they have massive money hungry developers for that (No offense to the developers, I love you all dearly.) Then why is this an important decision? We want them to be able to talk to our phones that's why. You want to walk up to your front door and have your phone tell your automation system I'm home!! triggering your lights, heat/ac, music, and wo/man cave to all come alive in anticipation. You want your home to not just be smart, but to be intelligent.
Next comes the Hub. Oh yes each competing standard has its own hub. Further evidence of crazy fragmentation goes a step further, some hubs/devices communicate via your wifi network, and others use zigbee or zwave radio frequencies to communicate. This adds another potential issue into your smart home, if you try to connect something too far away from your network (wifi or zigbee) then your devices won't work. Most Zigbee/zwave devices work as a mesh network, meaning each device acts as both a receiver and a repeater. Your device (light bulb, camera, garage door opener, etc) will be taking your zigbee/zwave network it receives from the previous device and passes it along to any others around it. Anyway, I digress, back to the hubs. There are a few main affordable competitors right now, (seeing as how I am writing this while CES is happening, this part will likely be outdated as I type it.) * SmartThings *Philips Hue *Logitech Harmony *Wink Beyond these, you are talking a much more extensive system and a much higher price tag.
Personally as of now I only have experience with the SmartThings and Philips Hue systems. I will therefore go into more detail on those from my own experiences.
SmartThings - Connect to as many things as possible even if it doesn't always work
SmartThings started out as a Kickstarter Link Here and were later purchased by Samsung. The best products that work with the SmartThings system is obviously going to be Samsung products. This is the platform to go for if you want to connect to as many things on one platform, in my opinion. Be aware however, that sometimes there will be issues and things that will not work exactly as you would expect. Since you are making the smart home jump i'm going to guess you are an early adopter like me and will be ok with some glitches. Additionally this system works best with unsanctioned devices and has a large awesome community working to hack everything into it.
Philips Hue - Do one thing, and do it really well
Philips set out to make connected lighting awesome. They have all kinds of color changing bulbs that are programmed to change your room's lighting color to that of your sports team when they score. (Yay!) Personally I find that is a gimmick but that't just me.
The Hue system does do lighting really well. I have it set to automatically turn on and off at different times of day, scenes setup to trigger different types of environments (movie mode, bed time dimmed lights for reading, dinner time full brightness) AND I can even control it with Siri. There's that Homekit decision I was talking about before. I can activate Siri on my Apple watch and say Turn on the lights and all my lights come up! Dude the future is here.
Logitech Harmony - That's some good looking Marketing there
As mentioned above, I personally have no experience with the Harmony system. Their marketing looks amazing and promises all sorts of things. However, I have heard that the dream simply isn't true. I'm not saying don't buy this system, rather do some serious homework beforehand.
Wink Ahh Darling, out of money, in limbo Wink
Wink started out as a project of Quirky and quickly grew into an independently recognizable brand. Their marketing is also quite good, they connect to a vast array of devices, and looks too good to be true, all at a decent price point. There are 2 glaring issues here. One, every time there is a firmware update you have to re-add everything and friends of mine who own it have been very frustrated with having to do this over and over. The second issue is that Quirky has admitted they "Ran out of money weeks ago." Yikes. The Wink system is for sale folks! (Know any investors? We should totally buy it!) This sends the whole platform into limbo and offers a sense of uncertainty instead of security when investing in a new system. Stay away for now folks!
Bonus Round! It Talks to Me!
If you follow tech news you may have noticed a bunch of cylinder shaped devices hitting the market. This is the new cool guys, i'm calling it now. Anyway, The Amazon Echo is this very cool device which sits on your counter and takes commands from you by voice. I walk into my house and say "Alexa (The wake word) play pandora" and she responds "Ok playing your last listened to station on Pandora. All without touching it. This magic is able to control your house as well. The Echo can control your smarthome by connecting to a bunch of hubs. Not every hub has that ability yet but give it time.
Also as mentioned before, anything that is Homekit enabled (Apple) can also theoretically be controlled by Siri, on your phone or watch or iPad etc.
So that's the gist of it, a bit more long winded than I thought it would be, but like I said it's complicated. I hope you've gained a better understanding of the SmartHome world.
What makes you say that it wasn't actually an Amazon Echo?
The Amazon Echo. It can connect to many smart home devices such as my Nest thermostat.
Amazon also makes a similar device. The Amazon Echo. So, if you don't want Google, you could go for Amazon.
Amazon's assistant software, Alexa, is open and you can install it on alternate hardware (like the Raspberry PI) if you wish as well.
So now we have 5 different low-cost (under $1000) robotic home assistants and 2 static ones all competing for a space in our living rooms:
Robotic
Static
Is it just me, or did this market get really crowded really fast?
I'm a big fan of Iron Man. Always wanted to build an exo-suit with some strength-enhancing capabilities. I'm pretty excited for the possibilities (though not hopeful for the market acceptance) of JIBO. Although, with products like the Amazon Echo getting people used to the idea of having AI personalities in their home, maybe I'll be proven wrong.
You can do it! Get some Hue lights and set them up with an Amazon Echo. You can tell Alexa to turn the lights on and off whenever you feel the urge.
> I'd guess 25% of the population would willingly accept a government camera in their house "for their security".
heck, they'll pay for it.
While I agree that the calendar feature is kind of dumb, they do a whole lot more than that.
If you see here it does not really inform you that it will put you under surveillance 24/7:
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Echo-Bluetooth-Speaker-with-WiFi-Alexa/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Selling: Amazon Echo 1st Gen (https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Echo-Bluetooth-Speaker-with-Alexa-Black/dp/B00X4WHP5E). Condition: Terrific. Includes packaging, original power block, and anything else that came in the box aside from the plastic wrap that wrapped up the charger and the unit. Maybe missing a tie for a cable... If That's a deal breaker, I can give you one from a bread bag. Price: $50.00
That would be Amazon Echo a neat little device.
My Echo is a bit older, so maybe that's why. It's a first generation Echo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4WHP5E
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There's a prime music app for your phone too or especially useful if you have and Echo/Dot/Alexa appliance.
Network Security
If you are talking about computer networks in offices and such, I'm not aware of current implementations. However it does seem reasonable that an AI would give you some powerful abilities in network security.
Could figure out when intrusions are happening and then be able to do something about it. Things like create a fake environment and allow the intruder to think it is real. If the government, then anything they try to retrieve could be bugged with malware that would silently give away information about the intruder such as location, other files they have, etc. If not the government then faking an environment may allow them to take fake files thinking they are real all the while alerting security after starting to log details about the intruder.
Could figure out if someone has been stealing files covertly. Admins can track who takes files and when and such but it is easy enough for people to covertly remove files without detection. An AI could provide a much better coverage for this type of file stealing activity.
Could do a better job at protecting against malware and viruses that aren’t currently in the malware/virus protection software that is installed. While not an AI, there is a corporate software that does some pretty fancy stuff similar to what an AI could to. Check them out: Bromium is an interesting anti-malware and anti-virus software that can do it's job without a giant library of what those viruses and malwares are. (video)
An AI could use a lot of heuristics in it’s detections of intrusive software behavior that a normal malware/virus protection wouldn’t notice. Like if certain files are being modified by different software other than is enacted from a user’s actions from a keyboard or mouse for instance. In general I believe that an AI network security agent would be a powerful ally for large computer networks. Hackers and malware is becoming much better.
Also with the advent of more hardware level hacks such as putting in various chips into circuit boards like was talked about in the Edward Snowden movie and social engineering, an AI would be able to notice changes in network behavior and user behavior. Google is already doing some neat things where if I log into my accounts from different devices it notifies me to make sure everything is ok. AI could extend that type of over watch behavior.
IoT (Internet of Things)
We have started to see more things happening in the connectivity of our devices in homes and offices. Things like Nest, Amazon’s Echo, Apple’s Siri, Google Assistant, etc.
These devices use Natural Language Processing BUT have limitations in what they are capable of achieving. Some words work while others will not. The varied command recognition will increase over time.
It does seem likely that soon they will start employing their AI cloud systems to start connecting more and more wifi devices as more wifi devices become available using AI. However with narrow AI, you will always have limitations of what it is capable of doing as the scope is determined by what they have programmed it to understand and do.
It will be a while before you can have full on conversations that do not directly connect with utility type actions such as turning off things, changing the temperature of water, locking down your home, checking your bank account, etc. as that requires an AGI to actually comprehend and respond anywhere near reasonably.
Security (BONUS)
There has been a case that I've seen that uses AI to track people's behaviors in parking garages/office buildings so that it can know if someone is there that shouldn't be. It will only get better and be able to alert people to things like people trying to break into cars, rig explosives, commit crimes, etc. and will be able to use facial recognition to track them and such.
It may even be able to have a predictive behavior component so that it could prevent crimes before they happen in those areas by either putting out a loud sound, turning off all the lights, calling security/police, etc. There are even some robots now that are designed as partial security forces so that may be integrated into such a system for security guard type capabilities.
Brand new - Amazon Echo - in black. New in box. Got one as gift but already have one. This thing is great. It can be yours for $125.
Can I interest you in a home surveillance device?
"Here's why Amazon isn't selling Apple TV and Google Chromecast streaming products"
http://www.recode.net/2016/5/31/11826394/amazon-apple-tv-google-chromecast
"Back in October, Amazon made a bold move. It booted two products — the Apple TV and Google Chromecast streaming devices — that compete with Amazon's streaming device from its online store."
Just did a search on Amazon for a "Google Home" and I got as first link that came back
So it is actually worse. They appear to be purposely confusing customers.
BTW, did search for an Amazon Echo on Google and received actual Amazon Echo links back. It would seem fair for Google to return the Google Home when searching for an Amazon Echo. But it will not happen.
Alexa is kind of like Ok Google. I should have said "Echo" rather than Alexa, as Echo is one name for the hardware it runs on. https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Echo-Bluetooth-Speaker-with-WiFi-Alexa/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Amazon ECHO. I don't really know, how this would really help me. http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E. It uses Alexa. The problem with AMAZON ECHO is that its mostly designed to work at home, not on the road or whatever. Don't get me wrong, AMAZON ECHO is probably amazing, I just haven't tested it, 35k reviewers say its great. Looking at the top reviewer on amazon [12.5k helpful], ECHO is good for kitchen timer based tasks, "remind me to wake up in 15 minutes", screwing around with kids for LOL, TO DO shopping list+use app for notes, AUDIBLE reading nontebook, news and random facts. http://i.imgur.com/EXamZVq.png. Also, its NOT PORTABLE. So its only LEAN based at home. Is it useful? I'd say its a good alternative to googleKeep audio notes since you may not always carry your phone around you at home. It does have more great potential, but its limited by AI and not open SDK yet to my knowledge, according to reviewers. I will mention Amazon ECHO in my book and the most compiled useful information and youtube reviews on it, as well as my ability to put myself in other peoples shoes
SAMSUNG S-Voice. Well, it only applies to samsung phones, so it can fuck off too
GOOGLE NOW. Here we go, this is something a vast majority of people can setup and use at the get go. Because its google right? And, google does a shit fuck ton metric support for android based phones. Ya know, there's a fucking reason the first flagship phone to run 6.0 android was a google phone. Because they have a lot of investments into android https://gigaom.com/2012/04/01/why-google-isnt-worried-about-androids-revenue/. Well basically GOOGLE is heavily involved in android, whereas APPLE is obviously involved in iOS shit, because iOS was created entirely from apple, whereas Android started off open source [still is]. GOOGLE NOW, is fucking great for namely a few things:
GOOGLE NOW CONTINUED: '1: IN YOUR FUCKING CAR, When you need voice activated commands the most. Literally you can get by at home taking notes on your phone whatever the fuck way you want, or amazon ECHO, it doesn't make a difference. On the road? Sorry amazon ECHO needs wifi and isn't portable. Other solutions are meh. Specifically, google now has some great commands, field tested by me on a 5.1 samsung phone. We're going to ignore useless facts that google can spit out for now http://www.greenbot.com/article/2359684/android/a-list-of-all-the-ok-google-voice-commands.html Here's a lisit. I will summarize the ones I find to be extremely useful in a car or at home:
Most of these I wouldn't use like the tip function, its simply faster to do in my head instead of with google. Because what happens is I need to have my phone open in the first place (Finger print scanner) and then say command. Of course if you used something like Nexus 5X this is very fast, but other phones not so much
Honestly, the only ones REALLY needed are the ones for your phone in the car. You shouldn't be texting and driving, but nobody said voice-texting wasn't okay
Note discord/ viber as well
It doesn't make a ton of sense to use a regular calendar but i still use it, (because it never fails). But voice activated calendars are becoming a thing now. I never really use calendars, but I need to know, due to all the events i need to keep track of in the future(There's a few conventions nad events i need to go to this year). Mostly their reminders for when that date is coming up so I can plan ahead
Specifically outlook+calendar can go fuck itself here since gmail and google calendar are free, and not everyone runs outlook. That being said, thunderbird + lightning extension might be okay, but let's stick with things all android users can do (using gmail calendars)
In LEAN, what should you really put on your calendar?. Really don't put shit like "go to work" 9 AM to 5 PM everyday, that's fucking routine you know that already. If you can, keep it ALL EVENT DRIVEN. I highly recommend DO NOT PUT tasks you need to do, it is not LEAN, it is in fact the opposite of AGILE/SCRUM. If you do do that, I suggest you use something like Trello for collaboration / time -based events LEAN for work, but your calendar should really be for events
DO: (don't use body text, try and keep everything on subject line)
DONT'S (don't put Waterfall based tasks, or tasks that don't have a time based deadline to them, or can be done whenever)
How do you do the DONT's THEN?
WHAT ABOUT DO's , like MAYBE DO's
What about hardprint calendars?
According to Amazon, the Echo is $180. You can get an LG G Watch for $90 or an Asus Zenwatch 2 for $130.
I got the Sony Smartwatch 3. It cost me around £110 about 5 months ago and now costs £90.
I'd say try the Amazon Echo to begin with. Maybe a smart thermostat (Nest?) or a collection of smart lights.
This is late coming, but I'm finally looking into ordering stuff, and I like the Smartthings Home monitoring kit..... Plus, I also already have Logitech Harmony.... and while I see that Smartthings lists Harmony as compatible I don't see the Amazon Echo listed there.
So, I have to ask, how does your Echo interface with Harmony/Smartthings?
EDIT: Okay, I see that the Amazon Echo page shows the Smartthings logo so there must be some compatibility, so allow me to modify my question:
How well does your Echo interface with Harmony/Smartthings?
Please resubmit without the referal link. AKA use this URL: http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00X4WHP5E/
Echo, like the Amazon product that does the same thing? Might want to rename this.
> http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Yah, I know, I started Echo before Amazon released that. It is only a project name, I plan to change it ASAP but I can't find any good names.
Pretty cool. You've got some competition for that namespace though. http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E
sure buddy, be sure to drink some more msft cool-aid while you are posting.
if you trust cortana so much, then you'd love one of these;
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Lol amazon has it for $99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X4WHP5E/ref=twister_B01KIOU214?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
> Amazon Echo
In the 9 hours since you posted all it took was google
http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Well, they aren't the same toy as you probably well know by now. Here is a link to each device on Amazon incase you are unfamiliar with them:
Dot - https://www.amazon.com/b/?node=14047587011
And I said that perhaps we can work something out. As in maybe some cash to go along with it. From my quick check it appears the Dot goes on eBay for $150-ish. I think it is probably safe to assume this is due to a supply/demand type thing. You are also aware that there is quite a wait when ordering a Dot?
This was put out there for someone who would like to have the Dot in-hand now and currently has an Echo they value less than the immediacy of having a Dot. Obviously you aren't that person. Someone who is that person would be willing to discuss how to make it happen be it for some extra cash thrown in or something else.
Go to ether site www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-hub
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Echo-Bluetooth-Speaker-with-WiFi-Alexa/dp/B00X4WHP5E
Do your own research we are not getting paid to sell them to you