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There's a book on the topic that I've been meaning to read: https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Their-Own-Invented-Hollywood/dp/0385265573/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=empire+of+their+own&qid=1568575461&s=gateway&sr=8-1
The short answer is that the entertainment industry has historically been open to people who are marginalized from other career paths. So disproportionate representation of minorities in the performing arts is something that you often see across cultures and throughout history.
Okay, well I guess this entire book about Jews creating Hollywood is just bullshit, and all the scholarly articles about immigrant Jews creating and maintaining (aka running) Hollywood through the early years through the Golden age are nonsensical, in part because Walt Disney was also there, being not Jewish
You’ve never heard of MGM?
What do you think the initials stood for?
So out of all of the "circumstances" you've considered, the only outcome you can conclude is that Kanye must 100% be bipolar. Good detective work Sherlock, I think you've cracked it. 🤦
Now, seeing as Kanye West is certainly not the only person in the public spotlight to claim that Jews run Hollywood. In your opinion, are all the others who made this claim bipolar too?
Maybe the author of this book from '89 was bipolar too... What do you think? 🤷
Why are you even here in this sub if you don't believe in conspiracy theories? What is your motive?
For your reading pleasure
Jewish people played a large role in the early history of Hollywood, since many of the major studios like MGM were founded by recent Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe or Germany. A large part of the reason for this is that many other industries simply excluded Jews at the time. Hollywood was basically one of the few industries where Jews were able to thrive without dealing with various social barriers.
Naturally, this fed into various pre-existing conspiracy theories about Jews controlling everything. Whether this LA Times article is satire or not, I have no clue, but it is true that historically Jews played a pretty significant role in the development of the movie industry. And outside of New York City, Los Angeles historically has had the largest community of Jews, so it's really not surprising to find Jews over-represented in the movie industry.
That being said, I'm Jewish, and so far I don't control the world, sadly.
So, this book has a very unfortunate title, but it is by far the most scholarly, well-sourced, objective work I’ve ever come across on the topic:
“An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood” by Neal Gabler
An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385265573/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bYdwFbDZ5NHY3
That subtitle may inspire in some readers waves of ethnic pride, and in others waves of ethnic revulsion, but the point of this book is that its claim of origin is quite literally true. And what makes it an interesting read for political types is the way it demonstrates that no matter how much the founding Hollywood moguls and their successors tried to peddle an idealized, escapist form of entertainment, bubbling up under and around their every project was ideology, racism, ethnic prejudice, class friction, domestic and international politics and all the other raw, seething stuff that distinguishes this country from all others. In Gabler's hands, the Industry draws a picture of American political history in spite of itself.
Americans have a strong mythology about WW2. The US was pure and good, the Germans and Japanese dark and evil. By opposing them, the US saved the world. American viewers are warm and welcoming towards this message.
And yes the Jewish factor is strong in Hollywood. No one kind of admits this openly but it's real.
That was frickin EASY!
Written by a proud Jewish man.
The Federal Reserve ''owns'' Wall Street. Who are the big players in that circle?
Great first comment though. Welcome to reddit. You should stick around, as it is educational here.
Preconceived notions are for fools. Growing up can be a painful process, but I promise it will get better.
>First one being why the Jews would specifically target white people out of every race on Earth.
On the top of my head, I have no idea. But, the more I think about it, whites are the only obstacle in Jews' "way".
>Because even if they crash their economy through subversion and replace the demographics, this will still collapse the system a lot of wealthy Jews depend on.
Right, mabe. I believe their entire goal for White Genocide is to intermix and/or die out from low birthrates. The Jews want an atomized, intermixed race population which will live for nothing other than consumerist materialism and degeneracy, thus easy to control and keep making (((them))) money for infinity. Even in the Talmud, it says that the goyim will be their slaves one day.
>Israel loses its main supporter and supplier leaving it vulnerable to foreign attacks. A lot of Jews depend on white countries being stable to continue making money and keeping their ethno-state alive.
Right, the Jew's biggest threat after us will be the Arabs, however they might use an "Ethno-bomb".
The International Jew thrives where there is pluralism, so they can hide amongst the others in their little enclaves, wherever they are.
Jewish bankers, intellectuals, academia, entertainment, medicine, press, etc.
>He also went on to say that a lot of the degeneracy we are seeing today and in general anti-white leadership in white countries isn't caused by Jews directly,
It indeed has ALOT to do with jews. Jews have had a huge hand in porn forever, lots to do with interracial mixing propaganda especially in movies.
Hollywood was created by and for Jews, still is today, there is a documentary of the same title on that link.
Lots of Jews like Freud, the Frankfurt School, etc all are major if not the main causes of the sexual revolution coinciding with the 60's/70's.
Yes, whites helped spread these ideas because they are the subjects, but they were not the major thinkers, unless (((they))) wanted a gentile front-man to help push them.
> Jews have no reason to single out and attack whites directly, its a monetary incentive to keep these countries alive, its illogical to flood it with low skill third worlders who cause chaos and sky rocket crime and make it hard for these countries to continue being profitable.
Jews have curated entire movements to curve Euro-gentile ethnocentricity and cohesiveness, which they saw turned into nationalism, etc. They have this negative reaction to these things from their history of pogroms and violence towards them because of things like usury, pushing degeneracy, and other things.
Sometimes their persecutions were wrong, however more often than not, their own group behavior gets them in trouble, so they get angry at goyim for not allowing them to fuck them over. Regardless of their clueless logic, all they want to do is hurt us via flooding us with 3rd-Worlders and other means.
However, I will say that it isn't just the jews, but international corporations altogether, they want cheap labor and mass surveillance, but that's just another part of the equation.
>he has a point so I'll add it, he went on to say, "fuck us and fuck other whites for letting it happen, any race that allows its own destruction deserves to die, I have ZERO sympathy for them. They are fucking dumb for letting it happen" there was another person in the conversation who pointed out you can't say anything without being branded a fascist and then blacklisted from most if not all high paying jobs and he said, "thats the trade off then, either you want money or you want your race to survive, either way we are letting it happen and in most cases are doing it to ourselves.
Well yeah, fuck traitors. But it seems like your friend is not educated on the JQ himself. Jews have dominated academia, press, and entertainment for decades and have absolutely influenced the core ideology of the public. Why would whites push anti-white rhetoric? It definitely isn't european whites coming up with these ideas.
>The Jews didn't force us to drop our morals, drop our history, hate ourselves and tirelessly chase the all mighty dollar, we did, they at most just suggested it, don't blame the guy who poked a kid and suggested he jump off a bridge, blame the guy who thought that was a good idea and jumped"
lmao I can't even at this point. Your friend sounds clueless, like its not possible to be brainwashed over several decades. Those metaphors are way to simple to try to explain complex things like the JQ.
Make him read The Culture of Critique, if you have to.
If you think nobody talks about Jewish over representation in media or finance, you're just not looking
People don't shut it down everywhere, people talk about it all the time, especially Jews themselves. It's not a verboten topic, and the people that are getting crucified in public aren't the ones who are *just* saying that there's a lot of jews in Hollywood, they're saying there's a Jewish conspiracy to control the media and banks and world governments
Just going to leave this here...
Maybe try giving this book a read for more understanding of what he's actually talking about then.
Maybe because Anti-Semites from a hero hurts.
But anyway read An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood if you actually care how Hollywood started.
If you are not allowed to notice it publicly, then why has this book not been suppressed? https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Their-Own-Invented-Hollywood/dp/0385265573 .
Why has the NYT not taken down its positive review of said book? https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/20/books/books-of-the-times-men-who-colonized-america-s-image-of-itself.html
Why has the Hollywood Reporter not been cancelled for this recent story?
The fact of the matter is that if you write an historical account of Jewish people and Hollywood, you can, in fact, publish said account, and you'll be engaged respectfully, pro or con.
If you peddle a-historical theories that are easily disproven, and that echo the typical ways Jews have been spoken of throughout history before pogroms, then yes, you'll get a ton of harsh criticism. It isn't surprising. If you meet a Jewish person, chances are they had relatives who died or were force relocated during the Holocaust. This is a generational trauma whose wounds are still raw. It doesn't mean you can't criticize, but it does mean you should try to understand the breadth and depth before you opine.
The difference between anti-Semitism and conspiracy theory is that there's a ton of historical record of anti-Semitism, and it's woven so deeply into the fabric of European and Middle Eastern history that it certainly deserves a name of its own. It's only if you believe it's a trans-historical force that it goes into the realm of religion/conspiracy/what-have-you.
A much more straightforward way to look at it is that the Jews experienced the Diaspora, became an embedded minority in many countries, and, as happens to many minorities, especially during times of trauma, they experienced considerable persecution. Said persecution happened so many times that many came to believe that it WAS a trans-historical force, which to me is very much a survival mechanism ("Why are we persecuted so? It is part of God's plan for us."). As a secular person, I do believe there is, in fact, a trans-historical force, though it isn't religion or God's plan, it is that majority populations tend to turn on minority populations when they are under a perceived threat, and that stoking the fires of that perceived threat is a way for people seeking power to gain the power they seek.
The repeated persecution itself is a matter of clear historical record, and the tropes (hoarding of money/power/education) that define it are what lead to there being the term anti-Semitisim, to differentiate from other forms of persecution, which also exist.
Well duh...who owns the mainstream media?
How Jews invented Hollywood...it's not some secret, just not widely publicized / talked about.
Islam is portrayed as fanatical...Hinduism..."nobody in America gets Hinduism" I'm not even sure those in India get it.
Buddhism - I think of Bulletproof Monk or 7 Years in Tibet or The Golden Child...but these movies are getting long in the tooth.
Judaism - always repeating WW2 Holocaust memes...what is the truth? good question.
In the context of Jewish American history, I think it would be good to focus on major events and contributions of Jewish Americans to history. This article could be a good start, but as always with Wikipedia, check the sources. Depending on the city you live in, many American cities have Jewish museums that might be able to provide materials or give you information specific to your city or state.
Areas to discuss could include:
And if you moved to China, replace "white" with Chinese. If you moved to Dubai, replace it with "Arab". If you move to Brazil, replace it with Brazilian.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do...
yes, in other news, you move to America, American "culture" is the norm.
Is it white culture? Perhaps. This country was founded as a British colony. The first few waves of immigration were north Anglos, that is a fact. Nothing wrong with that. Irish followed suit. Then southern Europeans. Then Latinos, followed by Asians, and more Latinos. Bro, whiteness was the norm because whites literally are a supermajority in this country.
If Hollywood is propaganda, what do you think Bollywood is? Indian propaganda?
And as I asked, what culture? Evangelical culture? Secular urbanite Hollywood culture? Hippies? Yuppie techies? Is the culture in Seattle the same as in Bozeman, MT or Tampa, Florida? Do you think the people of Fargo, ND give two shits about the TikTok houses or social media influencers in LA?
If your basis is mainstream Hollywood/entertainment, well that could be Jewish culture, considering they invented it, and their disproportionate representation? https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html
And depending on who you ask, that may or may not be white culture? And if your beef is really only with Hollywood, maybe you're an anti-semite?
tldr: White culture is not homogenous, nor inherently bad, just like Indian culture isn't homogenous, nor inherently bad. There is good and bad. The same applies for any piece of land. That's like going to Dubai and complaining about Arab/Muslim culture, or Singapore, and complaining about Chinese influence.
So you ended up adding a lot to your previous post and I had to get some sleep I’m workin 12 hour shifts at work so my replies might be a little slow, I have limited time. I’ll address a few points.
You do seem to know what you’re talking about and have obviously studied it extensively. Maybe you don’t understand that I don’t have 2 years like it took you to learn. That’s far too much time for me to read up on something I already have a heavy feeling I won’t see the proof I need. I understand it’s not something a single reading or website that will teach me everything, I’m not stupid I understand how research works. Since you have already spent the time why wouldn’t I ask you for a starting point? Usually a decent source has its own sources, so all it really take is one good page that will lead me to other sources rathe than randomly throwing darts at the screen. That not laziness that’s being efficient. It’s like asking your university professor for a book on a topic the know about. I know how to research, I go to university, but I need a good place to start. You should know that for every website there another one that totally contradicts another one, I might as well check out ones that aren’t “misinformation”
I’m hardly a millennial and come on don’t be that guy who just blames it on a generation. I was born close to the cusp, grew up with books, no cell phone til I was 20, dial up internet, all the stuff before the huge techno boom. Hell I’m dating a boomer if that matters to you.
Back to the asking for a website. I’m not asking you for a single website to give me the all encompassing facts of everything you’ve said, just one topic, one site that you trust. How about a topic like the holocaust death tolls being changed. I google it and all I see are people saying it, but no one actually proving it. Doesn’t have to be that topic though, just a site or hell even a book I don’t care that you trust as a source. I don’t think that’s lazy that’s just getting the information faster through better and more efficient methods you don’t need to give me a slew of websites.
I’ve never heard the claim that some evangelical christians thinking that they need a final persecution for the chosen tribe. I also can’t find anything about soviet Jews killing people, the phrase only turns up things regarding to them being killed. I don’t think it’s something I’ve read in a history book so I don’t know which history book to look at if I’ve never seen it, nor did it make any of those claims, so what book should I be reading? Where are these “simple info graphics”? I can’t jut type “Jew facts info graphic” and have them show up. Do you see where my problem lies yet? I simply don’t know what I should be typing, it all with a heavy bias towards the things you refer to as lies. So how do I find it without getting an actual starting point? How did you begin to actually find the information?
I’m not defending anyone right now. You keep saying how I’m defending them but I’m not really doing that, I’m coming from a place of ignorance towards what you’re saying as it does go against anything I did learn. I’m always willing to engage in thoughts that are uncomfortable or against what I believe but I need to see it for myself first, I can go down a rabbit hole but I need to find the hole first.
It should be noted that I am in fact gay. The AIDS epidemic is long over but not gone. Gay people got aids at an alarming rate because at the time people did not use condoms since it was thought that condoms were simply to avoid getting pregnant and a gay couple couldn’t get pregnant. So it doesn’t spread to as many straight couples who have protected sex due to not wanting a child. Also straight people didn’t have to hide their sexuality so the promiscuity issue wasn’t quite the same. There were no rules for being gay, at the time you could have as many partners as you want. These days you still see some of that but less so. I’m in a committed relationship with someone for the last 2 years. And I’ve never actually dated someone before since I grew up in a hardcore Christian church (baptist church). I had sex with three other people before and that’s it, I’m 29 this year. I should also note at this time of writing I consider myself agnostic. Just in a very intangible way. I don’t think God the creator exists like a human being I see it as something that keeps the life force flowing or the things that binds all the atoms together, something along those lines, I have a hard time explaining it but I think that gets the point across.
I looked up the Sampson option which didn’t exactly sound like them keeping the world under the threat of nuclear hellfire, it sounded like they have “nuclear ambiguity” and nuclear options are pretty standard for most nations these days. Another doctrine (such as the states) is mutual assured destruction. It’s the threat that if you attack us we’ll be able to attack you with as much or more force before we get hit so attacking us is essentially suicide.
I looked up the CEOs which doesn’t really tell me much I’m not sure what to do with the information that many are Jewish, or how I’d react if many were something else.
I’m also pretty ok with casual sex, so race mixing, the institutions of marriage and families being changed (but I’m not entirely sure what you mean by it, I have my own idea), and immigration. I don’t see what’s wrong with casual sex, it’s been happening since the dawn of time. How would genetic diversity be made worse by people “mixing races?” I don’t particularly care about marriage to be frank, I don’t care of gay folk get married, I don’t believe in the god of the bible so it doesn’t offend me. And about immigration.... we’ll I’m Canadian and we’ve been doing good with immigration and it not taking us down to the ground, many people don’t seem to be bothered by it but we all grew up with it and have had a pretty diverse group of people for a long time.
Sorry again I had to work a bunch, I don’t think I can reply to every point but I think I’ve got a pretty good crack at it. The issues you’re listing just aren’t popping up, the issues by the end just don’t matter to me, or at least unless you can explain how they are issues (other than genetic diversity... which I actually don’t get that argument, why is “racemixing” a threat to genetic diversity?) than I must ask myself “is it worth spending two years on to study?” I don’t know maybe. But the claims you’re making aren’t exactly popping up. You say our type don’t make any rebuttals but st the same time you’re not providing proof, I’m just supposed to accept what you’re saying as fact. I mean what kind of facts am I supposed to put up for you other than the hundreds upon hundred of accept d historical books that have been saying the same things that you’re going to say are BS that was made up from (((them))). So if it’s that difficult to obtain and if they can get rid of all this info how am I supposed to find it, there’s obviously a heavy bias to rid of your “real info” and replace it with the “fake info”
So I really don’t think there should be any problem asking for a good starting point. Jeff Zucker is the CNN CEO, this is a book all about how Jewish people founded Hollywood. So that’s about all o got for now, I can add more if you want I can get you information if you want, just ask. I’m no longer working 12 hour shifts and have a little more time. Apologies if it’s not in the correct order, didn’t have enough editing time!
There's a book called An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood.
There's a book called An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood
Hard to believe you haven't read or even heard about this article by a Jew in the LA Times or this article in the American Free Press. Hey, go get the book that explains it all quite thoroughly. You are apparently somewhat challenged by reality.
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I hate to say it, but they built it, so why wouldn't it be full of Jews?
Cue: some idiot thinking this book is anti-Jew.
Edit: to add http://www.amazon.com/Entertaining-America-Jews-Movies-Broadcasting/dp/0691113017/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me=
Protocols is allegedly a conspiracy book. Almost everyone in China and Japan, however, believes it to be real. Regardless of whether it is, in fact, Jewish in origin, it is Jewish in practice as it genuinely describes the actions of Jewish people in the Weimar Republic, the United States, and Soviet Russia. This may be the Barnum effect as the Protocols is very generalized descriptions. However, the descriptions of deliberately occupying media positions in order to control the information of the host populace is specific in the Protocols and is fairly accurate in practice.
> member of UKIP, EDL
Neither UKIP nor the EDL is antisemitic. They may have a few antisemitic pleb members, but misrepresentation of their positions is bigoted behavior.
But why don't you actually listen to neo-Nazis and White Nationalists if you want to understand their view rather than asking their enemies about it?
Maybe you should ask Putin why he threw out the Jewish oligarchs that took over Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union - or why Britain and Israel has gone out of their way to shelter these slumlords and wanted criminals.
Do you not see the logic in that? Do you think you'll get an accurate answer as to atheist beliefs if you ask a Christian "why do atheists hate God?"
That's the problem with sloppy research by angry people: They routinely goof by attributing Jewish status to non-Jews. Like seeing the name "Mayer" and assuming it's Jewish. While Jews can have the name, it--and its variants--are seen in Gentile populations. Like Mike Myers, of "Austin Powers" fame. He has the Irish variant. (In Ireland, the name "Maher" was translaitered a dozen different ways.) Mike Myers was born in Liverpool, England of ethnically Irish parents. Actor Breckin Meyer also has the surname [and is not Jewish].
Ireland has a lot of "Jewish-sounding" names, which aren't Jewish. Rose, for instance, is an Irish surname. (While many Jews change Rosen into Rose, Rose by itself is Irish. Like journalist Charlie Rose.) Or the surname Diamond, which in Ireland comes from the Norman name Dumont. Or Silver in Scotland (which comes from the Portuguese name Silva).
So you'll routinely see antisemites lumping Gentiles in with Jews based on a misunderstanding of onomastics [i.e., surname origins]. You'll always find Cary Grant listed as a Jew. In fact, his biographers are adamant: He wasn't one iota Jewish. His dad was of Scottish extraction, and his mom was Irish. (After Grant came out to Hollywood, he tried to ingratiate himself with Jewish studio bosses and toyed with claiming distant Jewish ancestry to suck up. Sometimes attributing it to his dad, other times attributing it to his mom. But his genealogy is clear and un-ambiguous: He had no Jewish ancestry whatsoever. At any point in time.) The antisemites, though, are eager to add him to the list--when in reality, he was merely doing what actors have done since time immemorial: crafting a fake and colorful biography.
Charlie Chaplin, too, is beloved of antisemites, who insist that he must be part-Jewish. Nope. His biographers have weighed in. He's not one ounce Jewish--but that doesn't keep him from these "List of Jews" websites.
The fact is: Hollywood does have massive overrepresentation of Jews. A fact that Jewish journalist Joel Stein concedes. See his article: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
Or Jewish actor/speechwriter Ben Stein, who wrote: "Do Jews Run Hollywood? You Bet They Do--and What Of It?"
Or Neil Gabler's book: "An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood": http://www.amazon.com/An-Empire-Their-Own-Hollywood/dp/0385265573
So only an idiot thinks that Jews aren't running massive swathes of mass media. But it's paranoid and silly when these lists come out, and the authors lump in Gentiles with "evil Jewish media bosses".
would this book and this also be a "confirmation bias?"
>(((they))) want you to be addicted to pornography!
Then again, Jews are overwhelmingly represented in leadership and management positions in both entertainment industries. Also, the easy access and constant dopamine rush of internet pornography has been shown to cause addictive behaviors. So given that, it's not difficult to make that claim.
EDIT: Thought I should provide some history as it's actually kind of fascinating how discrimination in traditional entertainment (at the time) like the stage and radio led to vaudeville stars and many Jewish businessmen to build Hollywood and how they really still run it due to family connections and the strong connections within the Jewish community of Los Angeles.
For many of the same reasons that Jews went into moving pictures, they also gravitated or were forced into the pornography industry. The Jewish community has had a long history within the smut industry of America, for better or worse.