{"product":{"product_id":"1612199054","title":"Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers","price":"15.96","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41a+1QVuNfL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/1612199054"},"comments":[{"body":"From Chapter 8 of [Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"Altmeyer has a new book on Trump and authoritarianism.\r\n\r\nAuthoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;[How did America end up with a leader who acts so crudely and despotically, and counter to our democratic principles? Why do his followers stick with him, even when he acts against their own interests?\r\n\r\nTo fully understand, John Dean, a man with a history of standing up to autocratic presidents, joined with Bob Altemeyer, a professor of psychology with a unique area of expertise: Authoritarianism.](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054)","subreddit_name":"MarchAgainstNazis","author":"mrxulski"},{"body":"From Chapter 8 of [Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"I will wholeheartedly recommend John W. Dean's \"[Authoritarian Nightmare](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27AGB9EA3Q07M\u0026amp;dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=authoritarian+nightmare\u0026amp;qid=1605904032\u0026amp;sprefix=telescope%2Caps%2C166\u0026amp;sr=8-1)\".  It attempts to explain the Trump base.  \r\n\r\nJohn W. Dean served as White House Council for Nixon and the book is co-written by Bob Altemeyer who's a prominent psychologist in the field of studying \"Authoritarians\".  \r\n\r\nIt's FASCINATING.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"King_Everything"},{"body":"\u0026gt;Because these followers submit to those they consider the established, legitimate authorities in society, they are called right-wing authoritarians.The “right” in right-wing authoritarianism does not refer to conservatism as a political philosophy, but to the word’s earlier use in Olde English, where riht (pronounced writ) meant lawful, proper, and correct. The established authorities involved may embrace any politico-economic position, even overwhelmingly “left-wing” views. Thus, when there was a Soviet Union, the people who gladly submitted to the Communist Party would be considered right-wing authoritarians, even though state-controlled socialism is anathema to conservatives in the United States. Right-wing authoritarianism, as used here, is a psychological variable, a trait. It is an aspect of a person’s personality, like the need for achievement or emotional intelligence, not their economic philosophy or political beliefs\r\n\r\n\r\n[Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and his Followers. ](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054)","subreddit_name":"ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM","author":"mrxulski"},{"body":"No worries. And I agree with you! After all, it's been proven over and over again. And last thing: I read [a decent book](https://www.amazon.de/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054) about the underlying mindset of many right wingers a little while ago. And even though it focuses on Trump, the underlying principles remain the same.","subreddit_name":"AskAGerman","author":"sw66sw"},{"body":"There are about 70% of people in the US who consider themselves Christian. Among them, about half of them are Christian fundamentalists (most of them are evangelicals). One research I read has this summary about them:\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;“So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing. \r\n\r\nSource: Chapter 8 of [Authoritarian Nightmare](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054).\r\n\r\nThese fundamentalists are very good at co-opting the term Christian, but in reality their God is pretty much themselves. It is interesting that evangelicals used to call themselves fundamentalists until the term got tarnished. I have seen many real Christians like Hillary, Obama, Biden who are pro-choice. These fundamentalists are fake who attacks women rights co-opting the name of Christian.","subreddit_name":"TwoXChromosomes","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"I came across a research carried out in 2020 which asked: Can most prejudice be explained by support of Trump? The answer is yes, almost totally. The results are:\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;#x200B;\r\n\r\n|Group|Number of people|Average prejudice score (higher is more prejudiced)|\r\n|:-|:-|:-|\r\n|Strongly Disapprove of Trump|370|53|\r\n|Somewhat Disapprove of Trump|33|87|\r\n|No opinion|(too few people)|(not shown)|\r\n|Somewhat Approve of Trump|101|114|\r\n|Strongly Approve of Trump|295|134|\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;**How Prejudiced Are Donald Trump's Supporters? (White Respondents Only, N=808)**  \r\n\u0026gt;  \r\n\u0026gt;NOTE: The items were scored on a 1-9 basis, and there are 24 items. So, the lowest possible score is 24, and the highest is 216. Actual scores ran from 24 to 214. The mean for \"No Opinion\" is now shown because so few people chose that category.\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;#x200B;\r\n\r\nThe researcher said that the correlation is 0.856. \r\n\r\n\u0026gt;To put it another way, suppose you decided to hold a dance for the 100 most prejudiced white people in your community, along with the 100 most authoritarian ones. (Who knows why you would want to? We do not.) Would you need to print 200 invitations? No, about 120 should do it, since most of the people who are one will also be the other. There is about an 80 percent overlap.\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;#x200B;\r\n\r\nSource: Chapter 10 of [Authoritarian Nightmare](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054).","subreddit_name":"TwoXChromosomes","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"Read this book-  https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054\r\n\r\n\r\nStalin and Mao were more rightwing than people think they were. Political discourse in this country has been so tainted that people can't see ambiguity in the objective fact that most people are a complex mixture of left and right wing politics.","subreddit_name":"EnoughLibertarianSpam","author":"mrxulski"},{"body":"Reminding me of this. From [Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers, Chapter 8](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing.","subreddit_name":"LeopardsAteMyFace","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"There are probably 30-40% of Trump supporters who are evangelicals. For evangelicals, it is a mistake for people to predict behaviors of the group in general based on our understanding of the teaching from Jesus. \r\n\r\nFrom Chapter 8 of [Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"Authoritarianism is a very touchy subject. Most people who discuss authoritarian never even mention Totalitarianism.\r\n\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;[How did America end up with a leader who acts so crudely and despotically, and counter to our democratic principles? Why do his followers stick with him, even when he acts against their own interests?\r\n\r\nTo fully understand, John Dean, a man with a history of standing up to autocratic presidents, joined with Bob Altemeyer, a professor of psychology with a unique area of expertise: Authoritarianism.\r\n\r\nRelying on social science findings and psychological diagnostic tools (such as the \"Power Mad Scale\" and the \"Con Man Scale\"), as well as research and analysis from the Monmouth University Polling Institute (one of America's most respected public opinion research foundations), the authors provide us with an eye-opening understanding of the Trump phenomenon — and how we may be able to stop it.](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054)","subreddit_name":"PoliticalScience","author":"mrxulski"},{"body":"From Chapter 8 of [Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"Trump is not a symptom like coughing. A [researcher](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054) found that Trump actually has made people even more prejudiced, more submissive to him and more firmly believe that they are superior. I think what people actually meant is that there are pre-existing conditions which allow Trump to gain power and tear apart the system. I personally think that Trump is more like a virus or a disease causing agent. Saying Trump is a symptom implies that removing Trump is useless, just like drinking cough syrup is useless against COVID. \r\n\r\nThe first order of business when facing Trump or disease causing agent is to remove that. Then we need to deal with the pre-existing conditions.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"},{"body":"I read recently a study of prejudice and political leaning. It divides political leaning into: democrats, lean democratic, independents, lean republican and republicans. It found that lean democratic and lean republican are pretty much democrats and republicans respectively in term of prejudice. Independents are roughly in the middle in term of prejudice.\r\n\r\nPrejudice is a spectrum, so it is natural that there are people in the middle.\r\n\r\n[Authoritarian Nightmare - Trump and His Followers (Chapter 10)](https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers/dp/1612199054):\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;Figure 5 shows the mean prejudice scores among the white respondents broken down by political party preference, including the differentiation among independents. You will notice that Republicans outnumber Democrats; again, that is because Republicans were oversampled. You will also notice that non-leaning independent-registered voters amount to only a small fraction of the sample. Although small in number, true independents can determine who wins a close election, and their presidential choice is probably more moveable than anybody else’s. They likely constitute a sizable chunk of the undecided voters who lead pollsters to an early grave because they make up their minds on election day. And to the extent that the TV ads, et cetera, that we all get sick of during a campaign are intended to persuade voters, they are targeting this small group of straight-up-and-down independents.","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"spa22lurk"}]}