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Yes Shape and Weight are the most important thing in a mouse, thats why a lot of pro use a Zowie mouse, Safe Shape and Low weight.
The lighter the mouse is the better you are going to aim, try to have a mouse that is under 95g at least. Personally i use the Zowie FK1 https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-FK1-Sports-Ambidextrous-Optical/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1533205405&sr=8-1&keywords=Zowie+Fk1
I use the Zowie FK1 and love it. Been using it for years and got it back when I started playing CSGO. Don't have any complaints.
I'd also highly recommend getting the warranty on it. I bought 4 year warranty for $2. Accidentally broke the middle mouse wheel one day. They took it back and sent me a new one right away. Took like 5 mins on the phone and they had a replacement on the way that day.
Looking for a well-made, no-frills gaming mouse. It can't rely on software to configure because I'm not going to install it, :) I don't need all the extra buttons (although I can ignore them I don't want to pay for them or have them), and it needs to last longer than a year or two. I have found some options online but I've not found one that didn't have at least a smattering of reviews talking about it breaking after a few months - is this just the norm now or can you do better? Thanks in advance!
Edit: I should probably also mention my last mouse was a Razer and it broke after about a year, so I'm a little wary of that brand. Also I don't need anything over 5000 DPI and honestly 2000 DPI is completely fine. And I would appreciate it if it didn't look like a transformer. :)
Edit 2: Amazon seems to like this one; anyone used it?
i just had my Razer DeathAdder Chroma fail on me and i got a new one on warranty, the mouse was pretty good while it worked, but cant recommend because of bad software.
but i got to test 15 mice in the shop, and of all those the BenQ ZOWIE FK1 E-Sports Ambidextrous was the best one. its one of the lighter ones, good grip and easy to lift, no need for any software to change any setting on mouse, so it is my recommendation. based on all my own selection of tests.
Try this or any of the fk variants (only difference is size). It's $10 above your budget, but it's known as a really solid mouse with a top notch sensor.
Why Zowie FK1 and not G502? Try to convince me.
Found it on Amazon and can be delivered tomorrow since i have prime: https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468883043&sr=8-2&keywords=zowie
This is one of the lightest mice out there, it has a flawless sensor and it feels great to palm or claw.
DPI means nothing really. It just means dots per inch, and correlates to sensitivity. A lot of professional CS:GO players play on 400-800 dpi, because a lower dpi means that they can make smaller aim adjustments much easier. However, since all games have a modifiable sensitivity, then DPI is just your overall preference across all games. Having a mouse with 400 DPI isn't going to give you a disadvantage/advantage over a 3200 DPI mouse. The only thing that matters is the build shape for your playstyle(claw grip, palm grip, hybrid), sensor(usually optical vs laser), and weight.
Two mouse recommendations I have are the Zowie FK1, and the mouse I am currently using which is the Logitech G703. If you can, try to go to a computer store where you can try out a few to see if they feel right right to you. There really is no need to fret over DPI.
> I want a mouse that is light, small/medium size, has light left/right buttons, 2 buttons on the left side, preferable large skates under the mouse, flex cable... or wireless and good optical sensor.
A Zowie mouse would probably be your best bet.
> don't care about an accessible dpi button, lightning and not so much the scroll wheel.
Yup. Zowie it is.
Sounds like you were comfortable using the Sensei but the Deathadder Chroma was too big.
I'd recommend the Zowie FK1. It's very similar to the Sensei shape AND fits all the criteria you mentioned (no lights/large skates/side buttons/etc.).
Make sure you pick up the ones that use Omron switches though, since you mentioned that having light left/right buttons are important.
Not trying to come off as spammy, but I've done a review on the FK1 which would be a good fit for you. Check out my review on the Zowie FK series if you'd like.
Note: I receive commission from Amazon if you purchase something after clicking my link
Here's a non-affiliate link to the Zowie FK Series if you're uncomfortable with me getting paid that way.
Let me know if you have any questions about it, I've used the Deathadder Chroma and G302 before so I know where you're coming from.
So i ordered this mouse: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LHRTO5W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i hope it will be good. :)
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Bro it's CA $150 on Amazon
FK1 is available here, not sure which country you stay?
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> Looking for a well-made, no-frills gaming mouse. It can't rely on software to configure because I'm not going to install it, :) I don't need all the extra buttons (although I can ignore them I don't want to pay for them or have them), and it needs to last longer than a year or two. I have found some options online but I've not found one that didn't have at least a smattering of reviews talking about it breaking after a few months - is this just the norm now or can you do better? Thanks in advance!
> Edit: I should probably also mention my last mouse was a Razer and it broke after about a year, so I'm a little wary of that brand. Also I don't need anything over 5000 DPI and honestly 2000 DPI is completely fine. And I would appreciate it if it didn't look like a transformer. :)
> Edit 2: Amazon seems to like this one; anyone used it?
> Wanted to play CS:GO and bf1.
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I recomend these two as they have the best optical censors on the market ZOWIE FK1 and the logitech g502 The zowie is the one i have currently and i love it but its design isnt for everyone its made mostly for optimization of FPS the g502 is a all purpose mouse which is more suited for mobas and rpgs.
The AOC monitor would be the most price efficient, but i couldnt find a ICC profile (to adjust the colours) for it. I own the Asus for 3 years now and im very happy with it, of course, this is not valid point and anecdotal evidence. In the end, both will do the job just fine!
i switched to this mouse, after many years using the mx518 from logitech:
its used by a lot of cs go pros, has one of the best sensor on the market.
a good alternative would be this one:
In the end, its up to the size of your hands and the grip you like to use on it.
For the keyboard, pick the one you like the most. I prefer laptop-like ones, like this one and i have not experienced mechanical models:
i think the keyboard is overkill, the razer mouse is decent, but i prefer this one:
used by the most cs go pros, really loving it.
for the headset, i would go with a real pair of headphones, like these and add a clip mic!
gaming headsets usually have worse sound quality compared to real headphones.
EDIT: The fractal has better airflow. For the best option in terms of airflow, add a 140mm fan at the front. So you end up with 2 intake fans and one in the back.
great choice there, i have the same 144hz monitor, use this for better colours:
razer has overpriced parts IMO, but if you like the style of it and have the money, go for it. One of the best mice out there right now, used by most cs go pros:
Top-level mice are around $60 (the kind of thing that professional players use), mechanical keyboards with cherry mx switches start somewhere near $70 (up to around $160 if you want them full of gimmicks like individual RGB backlight). It's also extremely important to have a decent mousepad, but a big cloth mousepad is $10 on amazon.
If you want examples, of what I'm talking about:
That's a total of ~$150 for pretty much the best thing you can have as far as competitive advantage goes. If you are going to upgrade your $30 combo, I recommend getting something like that, since if you get something "meh" it's likely you'll want to upgrade from that too.
There are great mice under $60, of course, but as far as keyboards go, definitely get mechanical.
Zowie FK1 there are many other brands and price ranges, so choose whatever fits your budget and preference.
Hmm, this is the link to the product. I guess you'd have to look at the ASIN, B00LHRTO5W, to know if this is the new one.
I bought it here https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W
I wasn't sure if a refund would be possible.
i can personally only recommend the ones i have owned.
If you are afraid of driver software or are too lazy to keep updating get yourself a ZOWIE FK1 or 2. I personally use a FK1 and it lets you cycle threw 4 dpi settings and 4 hz styles, all without any software.
The other is the Steelerseries Rival, i loved this mouse, one of the best sensors i have personally encountered, the only thing that bothers me is its oddly shaped once you have played with a more "standard" shaped mouse, as in if you are used to a normal size it can hurt your hand.
Logitech G400 or MX518, boths saddly not produced anymore but these where the best "older" mice i have ever used.
MK Disco with KBT Browns
2x Vivo V100B
/r/MouseReview you dont need to make a new post, there are PLENTY of posts that are asking for buying advice for cs:go.
As for my personal recommendations, if you like the ambidextrous shape, I would recommend the new finalmouse tournament pro. It is very new so you might want to wait a bit before purchasing, since finalmouse did have some quality control issues at some point last year, and so there might still be some potential issues with it.
If you do not feel like waiting, a still very good option would be a Zowie FK1.
Both of these mice have an optical sensor that will have 0 acceleration, no angle snapping, pixel skipping, or correction. Also the manufacturers did not raise the max dpi that the sensors come with stock from the factory like razer or corsair do with their mice, which will compromise the integrity of the sensor.
The zowie fk1 is available in the UK
An alternative to normal mouse choices, I went with a no-nonsense Zowie FK1. Though when I bought it the price was $60.
is this Gen 2?
I really enjoy the Final mouse. (one i currently use)
And the Logitech G303
I disliked the mouse wheel on the Zowie FK1 but the mouse was great other than that.
Proud owner of the Zowie FK1 here. - http://www.zowiegear.dk/shop/zowie-fk1-3461p.html
I'm a claw grip myself and I love this mouse. It is simple, durable, comfortable and affordable. Currently going for $59.46 USD on Amazon. - http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W
I can't sell mine because I'm too attached, but look into the Zowie for sure. http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448559303&sr=8-1&keywords=zowie+fk1
Well I have this mouse http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446402216&sr=8-1&keywords=zowie
For past 3 years on HEAVY use. No complaints really. Other brands to look for Logitech and Steelseries.
This combo looks pretty good deal too. http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1446402376&sr=8-9&keywords=keyboard
For keyboards I'm not really sure. Mechanical keyboards are the "high end". Personally I just have a $40-50 led keyboard from Microsoft, wanted back lighted keys, macro buttons and media buttons.
My recommendation to you is to follow the /r/buildapcsales on reddit, you can even search by mouse.
Otherwise, Zowie is supposed to make a fantastic mouse (very accurate sensor). I use a Logitech G502 right now and love it.
I'll throw my hat in the ring as I've played semi-professional Counter-Strike and used a myriad of products from different manufacturers. I think these are the manufacturers you should seriously consider and I'll go into my personal experience with them:
Zowie(If you don't care for anything else, as a tl;dr, I'm just going to tell you straight up, these guys are who you probably want to go with)
In my personal opinion Razer is not great. Their products typically come with a piece of software called Razer Synapse which I've personally noticed to be obtrusive and somewhat annoying. Kind of like the garbage software that comes with a new PC. Additionally, I've found they use lower quality parts that tend to break quicker. Ideally, you want something that's going to last as competitive gamers definitely put wear on their equipment. I've rolled through a couple Death Adders and a couple Mechanical Keyboard from Razer: Never happy with their products. Also worth mentioning, at EVO 2015 grand finals, a player had their Arcade Stick from Razer die on them MID MATCH forcing him to forfeit a round. PR nightmare for the Razer guys for sure but just really reminded me of how much I hated Razer.
Steelseries: Despite their name, they too use somewhat crummy parts. If I showed you my Steelseries account, you'd see ticket after ticket of me dealing with their tech support because the laser on their mouse has some stupid built-in acceleration(not ideal) or the left click on the mouse has dulled from use or the mouse skates I received came scraped and are cutting my mousepad or the audio on their headsets loopback such that my teammates can hear themselves in the microphone. I think they are much better than Razer but I think anyone that's been around can tell you the difference between something like the Siberias back when it was Icemat versus what they are now with Steelseries.
Logitech: Honestly, never been a fan of their products. I've heard great things as I believe their mouses use very good sensors. Last Logitech product I used was an MX518 and a 510 before that. I wasn't a fan of either but mostly just out of preference.
Zowie: BY FAR, the greatest I've ever used. Their products are out-fucking-standing. I've been using their EC2 since it debuted and purchased an FK1, not because there was anything wrong with my EC2 but because I genuinely wanted to try it. I know this sounds like I'm an ad-man selling a product but I've been playing CS since 1999, and I've never used a mouse as good as the ones Zowie have recently put out. In terms of personal preference, I used to actually always love the Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1 and the 3.0 but they don't stand up today with the advances in technology and the Zowie mouses seem like the logical progression of those mouses if Microsoft had stayed in the business of making quality mouses. To be blunt about the build quality of Zowie mouses, I've slammed these mouses hard on my desk in frustration at losing key rounds in matches and they've NEVER faltered on me. Seriously, if you want to purchase something that's going to last years and is just good quality in terms of sensors and the parts inside the mouse, Zowie is a great way to go. They don't have any of the unnecessary frills of other manufacturers. No blaring LED's, no unnecessary buttons that you'd need to grow a 6th finger to reach and no stupid bullshit software on your machine.
As for mousepads, I would suggest Puretrak. Steelseries mousepads tend to look noticeably worn after a few months of use and the threading I've noticed comes loose quite often but I've had the same Puretrak(Puretrak Stealth mousepad for the past 2 years and it looks as good as
I'd suggest getting products that are built with good, solid parts as from my experience, Steelseries and Razer break somewhat easily after a few months of use and you'll end up spending more in the long run. Though I will say, Steelseries has some great customer service which was able to replace things with little questions asked(provided they don't get a hint that you're trying to scam them, I would imagine). With that said, I would absolutely suggest Zowie for mouses and Puretrak for mousepads.
Specifically, I would suggest a Zowie FK2 and a Puretrak Stealth.
I prefer my Zowie FK1 pro
one of the lightest mouses ever
precision is OP no random flicks like logitech
no extra BS funktions plug in and go play
and a few dpi modes
Didn't know Zowie hardware, it looks pretty nice, I will look into that. ~~But I'd like to correct one thing in your otherwise very helpful comment: Logitech g402 has NO built in mouse accel. Source.~~
Edit2: I'm definitely NOT going for the FK1, even though I read really good things, but 94 EUR in my country is way too much
Edit3: Apparently I'm wrong about g402 accel.
I bought a Zowie FK1 and I love it
This is the one I bought, can adjust poll rate and DPI, good feel to it.