If the Moccamaster is a bit too rich price wise, this is also an absolute excellent coffeemaker that produces equally good coffee but with less style.
Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup One-Touch Coffee Maker Featuring Thermal Carafe, Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gc1LFbBM67BYQ
Bonavita fits the price point and I’ve seen many people rave about theirs here. Might be worth a look.
Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup One-Touch Coffee Maker Featuring Thermal Carafe, Stainless Steel https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_QPVVG0TY0TPKD9CDR9ZK
Get a used Bonavita through Amazon Warehouse. Great deal, great coffee. https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-BV1900TS-Carafe-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=sr_1_1?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1499318371&sr=8-1&keywords=bonavita+coffee+maker
Bonavita is one of the better drip machines cheaper than the moccamaster. It can arguably brew a great cup of coffee to match the Moccamaster at half the price. There’s usually sales where you can get it at around $100 but haven’t seen that great of a price recently. The standard is the SS carafe versión but they do now have a glass with hot plate version as well as other sizes and with additional features like timer.
There are some quality control complaints that have crept up but I haven’t had any issues with one for 5 years now. I consider it a great buy for the price and quality. If you get the Stainless steel carafe version, you can use the 6-cup Chemex under the shower head to brew a chemex coffee with the Bonavita. Very interesting brew!
Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup One-Touch Coffee Maker Featuring Thermal Carafe, Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pq8dFbSFG2SBS
The 1900ts is one of the ones I have been recommended before but the reviews on Amazon aren't so great. Any idea why?
Just FYI - that link/site recommends the OXO 12 cup coffee brewer. I purchased that brewer about a year ago and it was AWFUL! It was an awesome design, and made great coffee; but the electronics within the machine sucked. After about a half dozen brews it wouldn't brew properly. And this didn't just happen with one machine. OXO replaced this brewer THREE TIMES - and each machine ended up doing the same thing. DO NOT BUY THIS MACHINE!. I have a Bonavita coffee maker now (also recommended by the SCAA) and it works great.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9FO1HK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
For an office setting I would do something more automated with an insulated carafe like the Bonavita. It’s SCA certified so with fresh ground beans you’ll be getting great cups.
Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup Carafe Coffee Brewer, Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Uql5zbTTWF6P2
may i know the exact reason you need a timer? is it to get consistent brew everytime? if so you can get just that wth many coffee makers if your consistent with your grind size and amount..
you can use Bonavita brewer for consistent brew now at $130 https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-BV1900TS-Carafe-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00O9FO1HK
So something like the Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup might be our best bet?
What I meant by "outdated" is that they don't do testing especially quickly and a lot of the models that came out in the last six months to a year haven't been tested yet.
If you want ease of use, consistency, and great tasting coffee with little room for error, the bonavita brewer is a pretty good start. A little on the expensive side but its fully automatic, and can make more coffee at a time than a french press, or other brewing system.
I'd honestly go for this instead of a French press after a grinder upgrade. Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup Carafe Coffee Brewer, Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2yHlyb5ENRWVV
It's a suped up me coffee and honestly probably just as good as a pour over set up.
I don't know anything about that grinder, but it is a burr grinder, so it's should be half-decent.
I'd say upgrade his brewing machine and buy him some really good beans. A $50 Mr. Coffee very likely doesn't even get the water up to a proper brewing temperature. This Bonavita would be a great step up.
Then there's tons of great coffee you could buy, whether a few single bags or a subscription. Blue Bottle is extremely well known and respected, but a little searching on this board will get you many other good recommendations also.
I'm not familiar with that machine but it looks like just a regular drip coffee maker?
If you are making multiple cups of coffee I would recommend one of the popular drip machines. I like the Bonavita models, e.g. the Bonavita BV1900TS. (They also make a smaller model but I don't have any experience with it.)
Nothing of great quality does, keeping water at a constant high temperature makes the coffee taste far worse. If you want to try it yourself, let water boil for awhile, say a couple hours, let it cool down and try it.
Furthermore, why do you love how fast it brews, for the novelty of it or for some reason do you need that twelve cups in three minutes? What about five minutes? Sorry, this is something that has genuinely confused me for awhile, is there that much of a rush?
If you're fine not having your coffee in three minutes, but rather, say, six or seven, I'd look at this: https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-BV1900TS-Carafe-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466631363&sr=8-1&keywords=bonavita+1900 . While I haven't personally tried it, I've done extensive research and ended up getting the more expensive Technivorm Moccamaster, but that's beside the point.
I've already got a Zojirushi on the way! The one with a lid that doubles as a cup because I've heard the normal one keeps the coffee too warm to drink directly from the spout! That way I can pour it out, wait to cool for a bit and sip on it. Also better to pace my coffee drinking for the day.
I'm pretty resigned to ordering this coffee maker for now as I'm no expert. I've read that it's got the proper certifications to make a good cup and I honestly don't want to spend the time each day to make a cup of coffee by hand, especially if I want a big thermos full!
I use an aeropress at work, but there's really only two fresh coffee drinkers at my office and the other gent uses a french press.
When I make coffee for friends or family in larger quantities at home, I have a Bonavita 1900ts It's extremely consistent and has a bloom feature as well. If the 5 of you are cool splitting the cost, that's a great option.
The 1800ts is a little less expensive, doesn't have a bloom feature or a thermal carafe. Still a great option.
Just my .2c.
I have the bonavita 8-cup machine and it produces really great coffee, I would recommend the thermal carafe version because having the hot plate can burn your coffee. Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup Carafe Coffee Brewer, Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_2iqVwbT54W0R7
This http://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-BV1900TS-Carafe-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00O9FO1HK machine is in the same price range and is well known/trusted in many coffee communities. Big issue in coffee machines is that the don't reach the proper temp for extraction. The bonavita definitely does while I'm not sure about the one you linked.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9FO1HK?redirect=true&ref_=s9_im_co_g79_i4
Bonavita BV1900TS 8 Cup Coffee Maker With Thermal Carafe (Black & Stainless)
Not sure that it's a cyber monday deal or not but it's currently listed at $144.69 which is a pretty good price for this.
I posted before I read the body of your post. I have been considering getting a drip machine for a while, bit most drip machines do not get hot enough to brew light roasts. These three are among the most affordable SCAA-approved drip machines. What that means, essentially, is that they get the water hot enough and they also bloom the coffee for 30 seconds.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf&th=1
I just did a ton of googling last week about this. I like these because they get the water hot enough consistently. Most coffee pots don't get water hot enough, which leads to under-extracted coffee (sour). But cheap coffee is typically made for those types of pots so people don't know.
I decided to continue using my french press and spend the money on quality coffee instead of buying one of these. I hope this research helps you!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf&th=1
I looked on the SCA website. Here are some standouts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf&th=1
Well, the Bonavita is about the cheapest SCAA certified drip machine. Amazon Warehouse Deals currently has a "very good" one for $73.62.
Yeah I am not sure about the one you linked to, but this is the one I have (that doesn’t work with a WiFi plug).
You only need a craft coffee machine if you buy fresh-roasted light roasts. They need to be bloomed and brewed at higher temperatures. If you're into craft coffee like that, Google sca and buy one of their approved pots. Otherwise, just get a cheap coffee machines.
Here are some of the cheaper SCA-approved machines. I compiled these a few months ago, but decided to get a cheaper pourover instead:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf&th=1
It it worth buying a good coffee maker when all I ever make is pre-ground coffee grinds?
I've seen that the Bonavita 8-Cup gets very good reviews and many recommend it but it is worth buying a good coffee maker if all I ever use is the pre-ground stuff that's sold at Walmart? I've also thought about just buying a Keurig 2 in 1 since my wife likes the convenience of brewing one cup at a time.
No, I got the 1900. I checked my Amazon history to make sure. Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup One-Touch Coffee Maker Featuring Thermal Carafe Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JA6ICbWMXS35Y
https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-One-Touch-Featuring-Thermal-BV1900TS/dp/B00O9FO1HK
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I've had this for about 3 years now and it makes one hell of a pot of coffee. It has a mode that mimics a pour over (pre-infusion mode - hold power button for 5 seconds and it'll change the mode) helps degass the grounds and makes fantastic coffee
I would recommend a Bonavita but they don't have a timer. I suppose you could connect it to a smart outlet .
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_5weyCb44H1FGP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007F183LK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_NyeyCbQS70SYS
Edit: looks like the brewer is shipped from the US with that link. I did also find it at https://www.shopcoffee.co.uk/product/machines/home-domestic-coffee-machines/bonavita-coffee-machines/bonavita-8-cup-coffee-brewer-stainless-steel-thermal-carafe/
That price range is very tight, but you still have some options - all of which cannot make espresso or any other fancy drinks.
Here is the list of brewers certified by the Speciality Coffee Association, all of which would be good choices, however none have the option of grinding for you. From that list the Bonavita 1900 (~$130) is a pretty standard choice. As for the grinder situation you have the: Capresso Infinity ($~90), Bodum Bistro (~$80), and Baratza Encore (~$140 new ~$100 factory refurbished).
As far as I see it here are your options:
1.) Buy a ‘good’ grinder and a ‘good’ coffee pot
2.) Buy a ‘good’ grinder and a cheaper coffee pot or a more manual coffee maker
3.) Buy a ‘good’ coffee pot and a cheap grinder or use preground coffee
4.) cheap coffee pot and preground coffee/ cheap coffee grinder
Out of those I’d definitely go with the good grinder as that can carry on with your coffee journey no matter where it may take you, and will help improve your coffee the most along the way.
Edit: spelling
Just get a bodum burr grinder for <$100 and a bonavita 5 or 8 cup maker: Amazon Link The 5-cup should be fine with your budget, the 8 cup might be pushing it.
My fiance went from keurig to a bonavita and is INCREDIBLY happy. She got the 5-cup and it's a tad small for two people, but it's a great little machine. She buys coffee pre-ground, but I use my "fancy" grinder when i make the coffee. It's super easy, low hassle, quick clean up, fast brew, and in my opinion, a genuinely great cup of coffee for the effort. The 5-cup is a bit small, but if you ever have even a second couple over and want post dinner coffee, it's great to be able to make a "pot" of coffee quick and easy without explaining the nuances of grind size to people you want to like you.
If you can spring an extra $35, I'd consider the Bonavita 1900ts or if you're ok with a smaller batch, the 1500ts is only $67.
o ok.. my bad..
you looking for superautomatic or brew machine?
gaggia brera is a good option in superauto for espressos, cappicinos, americanos etc but the recommended is Max coffee 10 cups per day
https://www.wholelattelove.com/gaggia-brera-espresso-machine-in-black $414 after discount coupon laborday25
if you wana give them something of a drip coffee setup than checkout bonavita BV1900TS 8 cup coffee brewer, (mocamaster is also wellknown for its work but doesnt have preinfusion and almost same thing as bonavita but double the price so i wont recommend it) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK $119
You could probably get both if you get the BV1900TS . I just ordered that and the Baratza Encore for about $300 total, shipped!
After extensive research and posting, it came down to the Behmor Brazen Plus or the BV. The BV, seems to have a slight edge. Its probably the best home auto-drip coffee maker out there, right now, and its on the cheaper side of the SCA Certified Home Brewers
Take a look at this review listed under the Brazen, but its a comparison of both
On a side-note, this is probably the best review of anything I have ever seen, hands-down, ever. Also, if you live up in the moutains where boiling water is an issue, the Brazen is probably better.
Think i was thinking 139, not 169
https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-BV1900TS-Carafe-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00O9FO1HK
But sure, you can wait for a sale
if you don't mind it being "8-cup" this is probably the machine most folks around here would recommend as a drip brewer.
that works; however, please edit that Amazon link above. It can be simplified to https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/
The tank says each cup is 5 oz. This is the brewer here.
At $600 and wanting the least work possible, I'd say get the Bonavita others have mentioned paired with a Baratza grinder. In that price range I recommend a Virtuoso and the Esatto attachment. The Esatto makes it into a grind-by-weight machine so you can load up the hopper and just hit start to grind out exactly how much you need instead of having a separate scale and dosing out of the bag each time. Not worth the extra $150 to me since it just takes a few seconds, but it may be to you.
You could also get a Bonavita BV1900TS 8-Cup One-Touch Coffee Maker Featuring Thermal Carafe, Stainless Steel. This way hotwater burns are very unlikely because once you the close the filterdrawer and put the thermos carafe under it you can not reach the water. It has a an optional pre-infusion mode which wets freshly roasted ground coffee to allow degassing before brewing. It also has a flat-bottomed filter basket and larger showerhead allow for even better saturation and uniform extraction. If you want a coffeemaker that is a little bit safer and pre-infuses like when you make coffee manually, then this device could be nice. I do not own one, but if it was available in Europe for a reasonable price, then I would certainly buy one (eventhough the origami filters are more expensive then the old fashioned filters).
https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-One-Touch-Featuring-Thermal-BV1900TS/dp/B00O9FO1HK