Sounds good, pick up a couple of PWM splitters like these so you can hook up groups of fans together to a single header and control them for noise with a solution like FanControl. Put your 3 intakes on one header, and the 3 exhausts on another. A tower cooler on your CPU is going to be great for it too.
390X is an old boi, and could possibly use a repaste after it's been in service for 6 years. Might helps a bit with temps.
Did they send you a different board back? How did you have it configured before?
Does your liquid cooler have more than 1 connector? Most AIOs only have a single connector that controls the pump & its fans. The pump should be connected to 'CPU_Fan' and set to full speed in your BIOS (usually DC over PWM if it gives you the option). The 3-pin is by design as it's meant to run at full throttle; the 4th pin is for PWM (pulse-width modulation) which allows you to set custom fan/temp curves, but this isn't useful for a pump.
I have limited fan headers on my MOBO as well; I had to get a splitter to connect the fans together so I could include them all on a single header: something like this. Check the packaging that your case came with as the vendors tend to include these extension cables.
You've got a few options. You can get more fans with molex connectors to plug into the psu, either daisy chained or into other molex connectors (the fans will always run full speed so make sure the details/reviews say they aren't loud). Those are called 4 pin molex connectors so don't get that confused with 4 pin PWM connectors.
Another simple option is a 3 way splitter that'd connect 3 fans to your mobo header. This works with 3 or 4 pin pwm fans. You can typically support 3 fans on 1 mobo header, but you can check the Amp rating of the fans vs the mobo header to be sure.
Another option would be to buy a fan hub to manage all the fans but that's probably more complex than you need here.
If you don't have enough headers on your motherboard, you can either get a powered fan hub, or just some PWM fan splitter cables. Each header will support 1A (2A on many gigabyte boards), so you can generally run 3-4 fans per header depending on the power rating of the exact fan.
Well, the hub will connect to the aRGB header on your motherboard, then split that signal out to the fans. So it's not exactly controlling them, just giving the signal a boost, so to speak.
You should be fine on fans. The two AIO fans will be driven by the CPU fan header. That leaves you six others to connect to the motherboard's SYS_FAN headers. Split them up however, headers can easily handle 3-4 fans each. Get some splitters - these would be perfect, and you're good to go.
Can always get a fan splitter cable. The length of which you'll have to measure the distances within you case to make sure it's sufficient
3 fans will work on a single header, with a PWM splitter cable. Possibly more if they're low power fans, but you'd have to check the ratings on the labels and add up the current values to make sure it doesn't exceed 1A. But 3 case fans is always safe.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
Are there cable sleeves that aren't just extensions? I was under the assumption that you could plug cablemod / asiahorse sleeved cables directly into the power supply but apparently they don't, do people just cram all the excess where the power supply is?
I'm also looking to daisy chains my 2 front fans to cut on cables a bit and wondering what cable would be right? I'm reading stuff about 3 pins and 4 pins and i'm not sure which one is right for front fans. Would those work?
> I haven't been able to find a board yet that has seven fan headers.
I think that's the wrong way around again. Its much, much, much easier and more practical to buy a couple of fan splitters and use the headers that come on whichever board is best suited to your cpu/gpu/RAM/storage needs, than to pick a motherboard so you can hook up case fans...You can buy 3 position splitters for about $7., or 2 position ones for about $2. Like these: https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-Pack-Computer-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
The fan headers is an easy fix. You just need to use a splitter: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
You can easily power three fans of a splitter without any power draw issues.
RGB is a more annoying issue. This is already old used budget hardware. Buying RGB controllers for this stuff seems like such a waste (no offense). That's money that should have/could have been spent on a better motherboard.
I've used these 1-to-3 PWM splitters from Amazon in a few builds. They work great.
Also, if you're buying Arctic fans, you can get the PWM PST versions instead. Arctic PST fans have daisy-chain fan connectors so you can link multiple fans to one header without a splitter.
Any PWM fan should work with the commander pro. as for splitting, there are 3 way splitters which should get to your total of 18 fans on 6 headers. I’ve only ran 9 off the commander core so I don’t know if there’s enough power output to adequately power them all.
Also, you will only get reports off one of the fans, but as long as they are the same model on the splitters, they will control to the same rpm (within margin of error)
I still suspect the splitter is the most likely culprit and the board is more than likely fine.
So either clip off the tach pin on all but one output, buy a PWM splitter cable (yes it will work—the 4th pin is just for pwm and wouldn't be used with 3 pin fans, but it works for both 3 and 4 pin, and note the 2nd to last pic in the product page, which shows the missing pin for the tach signal on the 2nd and 3rd outputs), or upgrade the fans to the Arctic fans as you wanted originally.
I had no idea about the Sabrent rocket q, thanks for telling me. Honestly though 260 tbw lasts about 15 years anyways, and at that point there will probably be a pcie 6.0 standard. There shouldn’t be a much of a difference. And thanks for letting me know about the motherboard’s headers, I’ll definitely start recommending fan splitters whenever I recommend this motherboard. OP if you’re reading this this should be good https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2NVKB7GENM665&keywords=fan+splitter+4+pin&qid=1642816088&sprefix=fan+splitt%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-4
That looks like a standard 4-pin fan cable?
Maybe even a splitter to control them all, like this: Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_i_W8F03K3B824T5QC8A0PG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You can fill out the top with exhaust fans if you want, ignore the side intake IMO.
The key for creating positive pressure in a case is to have more intakes than exhaust. If you have the same # of fans for each, consider running the exhaust fans slower to keep the effect. Almost all motherboard have several channels for fan control, so you can put your 3 intakes on one header (using a daisy chain cable like this) and put the two top/single rear exhaust on another channel.
I agree with the other poster who said don't use the fan hub, just buy a couple of splitters like this and run your bottom fans and front fans from 2 different motherboard headers. And your CPU cooler directly into the motherboard as well. The front fans need to be operated at way lower % than everything else so you will want independent control of that.
Yeah, I'll just wait for other parts to drop prices on Boxing day. I might just get the CPU from Bestbuy and price match if it drops lower.
For the fans I'm assuming I should get something like this on Amazon and chain them together and connect it to the Chasis header and it should work for all 4 right? I believe my mobo header supports up to 1A so running these on the same header should be fine?
I wouldn't recommend using Molex if you don't have to; the form factor is a pain in the ass.
I would either get a fan splitter like this to plug into the CPU_OPT fan header on your board. See your manual for the location. Hope that helps!
DO NOT plug it into anything but a fan header. You can leave it unplugged for now, but that fan won't be spinning.
In the long run, I'd suggest getting a splitter cable, so you can run all the intake fans from a single header.
https://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
I recently built in this case a few weeks ago. If it wasn't for the fan/rgb hub of the EK Elite AIO I would have needed more fan splitters and extension cables. I ended up just needing one fan extension cable and one of splitters. I'd recommend a splitter for the front fans as they have difficulty reaching headers and it makes it simple to just hook all three intake fans to one header.
How many HDD's in total are you going to have? In my Evolv X I have some on the bottom and some in the case. The bottom can get pretty cramped with larger power supplies and their cables. I have three noctua 140's as the intake and they do a good job even with the obstruction of the hard drives.
Is there any reason you're putting so many fans in your P500A? I think gamer's nexus went over the layout of the case fans and found that additional fans in the rear or up top had no appreciable benefit.
Huh... now that you mention it... yeah, I have those settings. I can't say "Make fan 4 run at 500 RPM" but I can set the profiles to individual fans.
I would guess if you wanted to run everything through iCue for overall management (but didn't need control over each individual fan) you could probably use the hub that came with the case for your intake fans and put the header cable into one of your three AIO sockets, and use 1:3 adapters to put rad push on one, and rad pull (or something else) on the remaining channel.
Yeah.. it will make more sense after you get the parts.. read that comment again when you start wiring RGB connections..
Here.. you will need this..
Any 3 way pwm splitter will workPWM
That will work, but you won't be able to control the fans with the commander pro. I'd probably just get some PWM splitters and combine some fans into groups. If you get a 3 pack of fans for the side panel from corsair, it should come with a second RGB hub, you can plug it into the commander pro as well to get full control of all fans off of it.
Hi, I have the p500a and I would definitely recommend you get an exhaust fan and a 3 way splitter. You can put all your intakes on the splitter and the exhaust on it's own cha pins. It makes it much easier to set up your fan speeds to what you want. I ended up with 3 intakes, a 2 fan CPU cooler radiator and 1 exhaust, and boy is it cool.
The N200 already comes with 2x120mm fans and the B450 Bazooka Max Wifi only has 2x fan headers. If you want to add another one without having to go through molex, you have to buy a splitter like this one: https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-Pack-Computer-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=fan+splitter&qid=1609047000&sr=8-5
No real point in doing so, just set them up to max RPM since they won't make a lot of noise. In my case, I connected fans with this cable to CPU cooler header on Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming Mini ITX board. This way, I had a "smart" fan that I could control and its 2 slaves, but just ended up setting them to max RPM.
I bought a PMW splitter where one is a PMW female slot (Mobo) and then there's a PMW male and 2 slots with 3 pins male. This way you can control the RPM and the other fans will be under that same RPM.
This is the one I bought in case it helps: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o.0dFbMHKACNE
The fans are actually 4 pin do you think these will work fine
Something like this?
(Not sure about that particular vendor, but there's a number of them selling similar products)
You can buy a splitter, something like this: https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-Pack-Computer-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=fan+splitter&qid=1620852641&sr=8-3
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/A520M-PRO-VH/support#manual
You only have 2 fan slots on that motherboard. Or you need a external fan controller.
https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/M7C96v2.0.pdf
Page 7 / 164 Sys_Fan1 and CPU_fan1
Assuming thats all the fans you plan on using here's some 3 way spliiters.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
https://www.amazon.com/JBtek-Black-Sleeved-Splitter-Converter/dp/B01EF9OI0O/ 2 way splitters.
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Sleeved-Adapter-Computer-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07JZCP1NJ/ or 5 way splitters.
Read the details on the fans. You don't want to overload your motherboard or the splitters on the fan power draw.
I bought this same motherboard and a 5600G for my dad's office pc. I can tell you the stock wraith cooler hit 89C in cinebench. A thermalright assassin cooler is like 25 normal price, 20 on sale. It only has 1 CPU, and 2 other fan headers. You'll need a PWM splitter cable like this https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
The components will draw whatever wattage they need. The power supply number is the rated max. 650 is more than adequate for your parts and you have room to upgrade.
Whatever case you have read the specs and make sure your video card clears it and whatever cpu cooler you decide on fits. Also check the power supply dimensions to what fits in the case.
Yes, but you need to use a splitter cable. Something like this, to connect all of your fans.
No.
Better to leave it connected to the motherboard. Just get some fan splitters like these - you can connect 3-4 fans to one header easy.
You can use 3x splitters to run 3 fans off a single header. Do that for the case fans but leave the AIO fan/Pump on their own dedicated headers. https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
You don't need to buy a Commander separately. You just need a couple of fan splitters.
Yup. I use these. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
You need a 2 (or 3 way, if you have 3 fans) 4 pin pwm splitter like this https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
I think you are looking for something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
Correct, also i tagged you on another comment but im writing this again just in case
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Price difference isn't that much but this allows you to get more case fans, the 4000D only has 2 stock.
Remove the stock ones, put 3 at the front as intake, 1 at the back and the last on the top close to the back one as exaust
OP will be gaming at 1440p, those 1080p averages are irrelevant
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Price difference isn't that much but this allows him to get more case fans, the 4000D only has 2 stock
u/probablyJMC look at this OP
Get a pwm fan splitter
Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_JRA332Q91EZ38T1C96AC
Thanks, will this fan splitter work just fine with them? Cable Matters 2 Pack 4 Pin PWM 3 Computer Case Fan Splitter Cable – 12 Inches https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_P78412C4J4CXK9Q0AWY1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_D8T0XT2V86BE3MFMK1T1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
So splitters are typically the simplest and "dumb" in the sense they have no additional features. This is one example. The splitter just plugs into your mobos fan header, you fans plug into the breakout side.
Unpowered fan hubs are essentially the exact same thing, but in a PCB form which can be convenient in some scenarios. Like this.
Both of the above will work perfectly fine quite easily for both 4-Pin PWM speed regulation and 3-Pin DC speed regulation, because all they do is duplicate the signal your mobo generates. However, both of these have that 1 Amp limit in mind that I talked about earlier. Most fans you can still comfortable put 3-4 on a single header, but some high speed fans you can't. For example, Noctua's NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 RPM fans can pull 0.55A each, so even just 2 would exceed the limit at 1.1A.
After that you get to powered hubs like this SilverStone one. These get past that 1A limit because they plug into the PSU directly via SATA (or sometimes molex) for additional power. They still plug into a fan header on your mobo though, and your mobo does the speed control. The caveat on these is they typically only support speed control on 4 pin PWM fans. Since they pull a flat 12V from the PSU for their power, it adds a lot of complexity for them to be able to handle 3 Pin DC speed control. So 3 pin fans will generally spin at 100% no matter what. There are some that support 3 Pin DC control, but it's rare.
Then after that, you get to full blown stand-alone Fan Controllers like the AquaComputer Quadro or the Corsair Command Pro. These typically plug into your mobo via a USB header instead of a fan header, as well as your power supply for additional power. These do not need a fan header on the motherboard at all. They generate all their own control signals and will typically have software you can interface to do things like set your fan curves, and your mobo is no longer responsible for it. These will generally always support 4 Pin PWM control, but 3 Pin is somewhat hit or miss. IIRC the Commander Pro support 3 Pin speed control but the Quadro does not.
Additionally in the past, you'd often see physical fan controls with dials/knobs, sliders, etc that did the speed control by you physically changing those knobs (these were typically 3 Pin DC control), but those have almost entirely fell out of favor and you almost never see them these days.
• Okay. After a long time of trying to get the best parts for you, I got a list. I'm not sure what you're trying to spend, but I did try to keep it on the cheaper side. Ofcourse taking high quality components. I also wanted to note that the ultimate place would be on your desk itself.
• Do you already have a monitor, keyboard (maybe a custom keyboard is something for you?), mouse etc. ?
• The full list ($2170): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7JH9qp
I7 12700kf (12 core, 20 thread processor) cooled by a 240mm aio from EK. Sadly, the case doesn't support 360mm nor 280mm at the top. It really is annoying, but it will be fine since the airflow in the case is great.
Rtx 3060 ti. It's very overpriced, but it is what it is. It may (probably) get better in 2023. Yes, 2023. Still a great graphics card and performs amazing. If you have a higher budget, it can be upgraded to a better one aswell.
2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 ddr4 memory
1tb of fast nvme m.2 ssd storage (can be upgraded aswell)
A very good quality 850 watt powersupply. 750 watt will still be fine, but I added this one if you wanted to change powersupply.
Ofcourse the Lian Li o11 air mini. It comes with 3 preinstalled fans, 2x 140mm at the front and 1x 120mm at the back. I added 2 packs of these great performing Corsair ml120 fans for bottom intake and 2 to replace these ek fans on the aio. You could get 3 more to replace the preinstalled case fans, but I don't think it will be worth your money.
• Links + notes:
Lian Li Air Mini on Newegg, black version is like $20 more expensive than the white version: https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-00080
The aio is $97, but you get a $20 coupon code for Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/p/2SA-000U-00006
You will need the LGA1700 brackets for the cpu cooler: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-lga1700-upgrade-kit
Aio comes with a splitter to plug the 2 aio fans into the cpu fan header. The motherboard has 3x sys headers, while we need to plug in 5 fans. Pwm splitter will be needed: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=185TOLRT5YZWE&keywords=fan+splitter+4+pin&qid=1639989883&sprefix=fan+spli%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-4
• Potential gpu upgrades:
Rtx 3080 ($1580): https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-rtx3080-o10g-v2-gaming/p/N82E16814126525
Rtx A4000 ($1690): https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-rtx-a4000-vcnrtxa4000-pb/p/N82E16814132091
• I hope I helped you with this.
it's a very good mobo, and you can just buy some fan splitters https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
So would some like this work? Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J2VD5RVXJXJV8ZAK91BY
This is what you want. https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
FYI, 4-pin = PWM
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>1) Fan header splitters would allow you to run more fans than physical motherboard headers.
Awesome! I'll be looking into that then. I assume that the motherboard's headers do have a voltage limit, so I'll go do some reading about that.
>2) Maybe a top-rear 120mm exhaust to go with the 120mm at the rear would be useful, but that's about it. Note that the case in question only comes with the three front fans, as indicated by its product sheet.
Oops. I don't know why I was so convinced it had a exhaust fan already... Thanks for checking. I'll be purchasing 2x 120mm then for it, should I go with this case.
>3) You could give the 5700G's iGPU a go at overclocking with that Freezer 34 Duo, as it's a pretty capable cooler.
That's great to hear. Thank you for your help!
1) Fan header splitters would allow you to run more fans than physical motherboard headers.
2) Maybe a top-rear 120mm exhaust would be useful, but that's about it. Note that the case in question only comes with the three front fans, as indicated by its product sheet.
3) You could give the 5700G's iGPU a go at overclocking with that Freezer 34 Duo, as it's a pretty capable cooler.
I'd use a couple fan splitters. For the RGB, I'd do a couple splitters off the RGB headers on the board.
some fan splitters or a fan hub might do the trick just make sure not to run more then 4 on one of the ports on the motherboard
splitter link below
you can get a simple splitter https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=pwm+fan+splitter&qid=1627610125&sr=8-8 if theyre pwm fans. idk
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6
3 pin fans will be fine in here, just switch to dc control in bios.
Oh I didn't know about that, thank you. Is this what you're talking about?https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-Way-Splitter/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=asc_df_B07PXLHNZ6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459410835726&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14286618619319447887&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032048&hvtargid=pla-812720891439&psc=1
You can buy fan splitters such as these to plug more than one fan into a header.
Amazon has one.
Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_P5DC834A2HKE5KA07NR7
It's not just a shortage of GPU's...it's a complete lack of a reliable method of purchasing one. Yes, you could join a waitlist but even that's not guaranteed; look at the cancelled MSI Gaming X that they cancelled because MSI pulled the product in favour of the Gaming Z with a metal backplate. All the people on the waitlist had their money refunded but all that time wasted in the buying queue is gone.
With that said, you'll have to reuse your GTX 970 for now. Once stock and prices stabilize, however long that will take, you can upgrade your GPU then.
In the meantime, here's the rest of the system:
Let me know what you think :)
You can use a splitter like this to connect more than one case fan to each header on your motherboard. Note that most headers can run about 3 fans without issue, so don't daisy chain these splitters! This is the cheapest solution, but if you want more individual control of the fans, then you can instead get a fan hub like this one.
Use fan splitters, case fans usually run the same speed together and don't need their own mobo header.
This one is a little more transparent in how it works and how it is wired. Again I wouldn't use it for CPU fan, but probably fine as case fans. RPM will only be sensed for one of the fans, but speed control affects all three. It's possible this is how the other one is wired as well and they just failed to describe it clearly.
You can also use splitter cables to connect three case fans to each connection on the motherboard. I think it's three maximum (power limit) but I haven't tested beyond that.
You can use just 1 cable. This is the one I used Cable Matters 2-Pack 3 Way 4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable
I have 7 fans in my p500a so needed a splitter as well, went with this one seems to be working great 30 days later no issues!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_btf_t1_-faqFbEKKY6BV
3 way fan splitters:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-ventilador-unidades-12-0/dp/B07PXLHNZ6/
The 3 pack comes with a Node Pro and a Rgb led hub, you only need the led hubs , you need 2 way or 3 way splitter depending how you want to group your fans . Here is a wirering diagram
https://forum.corsair.com/v3/attachment.php?attachmentid=36544&stc=1&d=1568313652