What is Reddit's opinion of
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro?
From 3.5 billion Reddit comments
By popularity on Reddit, this product is:
142 reviews of this product found across Reddit:
You need an adaptor. People have had success with this specific one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY
Forewarning though. It can vary on a laptop by laptop basis and id not a guaranteed solution. There's a reason Valve stipulates it needs an actual displayport.
Also do not try a HDMI to displayport adaptor (as some people try that as an alternative). That wont work at all.
Hi, thank you for the response! I looked online and I'm 99% sure that my laptop (Zephyrus G14) has DP 1.4.
If high refresh rates are not well supported via docks, would it be better to have just a direct DP to usb-c converter and use that? Something like this? I have another USB-C port I could use for mouse/kb/ethernet if it comes down to it. However, that is inconvenient just because of how my workspace is arranged.
Thank you for that link, it definitely seems helpful. I'll look through the options. One question there: If my port supports DP 1.4, will it support HDMI 2.0? (through the dock)
I'm in the same boat but with a ASUS ROG Strix with a USB-C 3.2 DP. From what I've read, this will work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B07F17ZHJY&linkCode=as2&tag=cmi0d-20. I've just ordered mine to try out and I'll let you know how it goes
Get this. I've had a few adapters, but its the only one I could get that worked with both my Oculus Rift S and my high refresh rate monitors.
Look for thunderbolt/usb c to DisplayPort 1.3 or 1.4. Sometimes they call out 8k 60hz, but the adapters aren’t frequency restricted it’s just an example of what they can support.
For example I get full performance out of this dongle: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_GVHDMT2AV8ANRQ0CXEZ2_0 maybe this Cable Matters dongle can do it? Otherwise, just get a USB Type-C/Thunderbolt 4 to HDMI cable that supports 144hz. I bought a cheap dongle and all I'm getting is 4K at 30hz and it's painful. Waiting for a new dongle now that supports at least 60hz
Been seeing a fair amount of posts lately about whether or not the Index will work with gaming laptops. The answer is YES, they will, BUT you need to have a USB-C DisplayPort, aka DP Alt-Mode. Check the specs of your laptop's ports to see if you have this. If your laptop supports it, chances are there will be a "D" DisplayPort symbol next to the USB-C port. If it doesn't, no harm in looking up specs anyway.
If you have verifying you have a USB-C DP Alt-Mode, then buy yourself a high-bandwidth USB-C to DisplayPort adapter and you should be good to go! I can personally verify that this adapter works, as it's the one pictured above: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o00\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
so you think this will do what I need it to do? Ill pair it with the display port cable that came with the monitor.
Sure, it's an ROG STRIX G from 2 years ago. It's got an RTX2060 and I use an adapter off of amazon for displayport. The experience isn't that smooth on higher settings and leaves a bit to be desired, but still worth it imo.
Does your laptop USB-C is thunderbolt or it is only USB ? First be sure your USB-C ports support DisplayPort Alt Mode, then you can use this adapter :
Yes I picked up a USB-C to Displayport adapter off Amazon. I got this one: Cable Matters USB-C to Displayport adapter
I've had the same issue with both external USB-C monitors and when trying to connect to an external display via a dock but primarily with the left USB-C port. I submitted a ticket with Asus and they finally got back to me on 7/5 and indicated that a 313 BIOS should be available to resolve the issue I've been having next week.
I'm not sure if you're using the Asus provided graphics drivers or not, but if you are I'd suggest grabbing the latest drivers from AMD to see if that resolves the issue with the external display on the right USB-C port.
Alternatively, if it's an option for you, I've had the most success with external displays when using USB-C to DisplayPort adapters such as this one: Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter
I have a TUF15 FX506LH and use a USB-C to Displayport adapter to connect to a Gigabyte Ultrawide monitor. Cable Matters USB-C to Displayport
If it doesn't work with the dock, is it a dealbreaker needing to just quickly plug in a USB-C adapter and the other USB from the Index when you want to start a session?
I just can't honestly say I fully understand how bandwidth is used over the lines USB-C provides, i.e. if a dock with additional ports beyond the DisplayPort would cut into the display bandwidth and cause issues. Also, the adapter needs to specifically support the DisplayPort 1.4 standard, and this dock doesn't mention what standard it supports beyond "DisplayPort".
If you don't mind just swapping out to a dedicated DisplayPort adapter after, I can say with certainty that this one works just fine, having used it with my own laptop with no issues.
I bought this one about a year ago for use with the G2 and a Dell XPS 15. While I did discover I needed to elevate the laptop to get enough airflow into the chassis to keep it stable while rendering some of games... :) It worked very well for being a GTX 1650 Ti. I don't specifically remember but I believe I dropped the rendering to 70% and it was still fine. We played some Beat Saber, Half-Life: Alyx, and a few other games, all kind of an experiment.
I used this with a rift s and my old laptop back in the day and it worked. Three reviews says it works with the reverb as well - Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_PXTCWCWYKD5QS5R10ZHM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Though the official description says it doesn't work with the reverb, so your ymmv.
Don't listen to the other people, laptops are good and yoyr model specifically I have heard great things about. I ran VR (though not the reverb as I got thay recently after selling my laptop) on an alienware with a 2070 super (similar to high watt 3060) and it was great!
On my laptop with an i7-1165G7 processor / integrated graphics I can do 5120x1440 @ 240hz. Did you enable the setting in the monitor to go over 60hz? I think 60, 120 and 240 are selectable.
This is the USB-C to DP adapter I'm using, connected to a TB4 port on the laptop.
That's a tricky one. Of course the first thing to check is if it works after a reboot without anything else plugged in to the machine. Watching the Oculus software, Device Manager, Nvidia Control Panel, and even the Windows sound settings might give some clues as to whether drivers are crashing or devices are disappearing. Try the other port if you haven't already, and a different adapter if you can.
I run my Index off the USB-only port with a Cable Matters adapter. I've had an occasional connection or performance issue but when anything seems funny a reboot clears it up.
From past experience, Oculus support seems genuinely eager to help diagnose issues if you humour their troubleshooting process. At the end of the day they might tell you YoUR cOMPutEr Isn'T CErTifIEd, but they do have some agents who are willing to read your logs and offer advice.
Might have some mild frame time increases, but it should work fine.
However, if your PC supports external GPUs over USB, then your PC has ThunderBolt 4 (could be 3), meaning that USB c port natively supports displayport 1.4 and you can just get an adapter like this one.
Yeah, get this one in particular, which is known to work well.
That said, that might not be enough. Your laptop might not directly connectly that USB C to the GPU correctly. You can check in the Nvidia Control Panel. But it probably works, since there's that Displayport logo right there.
It will work, even though that port doesn't have thunderbolt, it specifically states in the laptop specs that that port supports Displayport over USB. That Displayport you see in nVidia control panel, that's connected to your 2070, is that port.
You will just need an adapter like this one but you probably knew that already
It is possible. I was using one on my index with my laptop before I ended up building a sffpc for dedicated VR.
It may just be that adapter, not all adapters are fully compatible. It actually sounds like the adapter is overheating and failing. It might be that that one is faulty, or you might have to get another brand.
This is the one I had luck with. Ymmv
I also have both headsets and use quest 2 for everything that requires hand tracking or standing. G2 is my sim headset.
Both are about the same performance-wise, since quest 2 requires some gpu overhead to compress video signals to either send them over usb or wifi to your headset.
I’m also on wifi 5 and I can tell you that wifi 6 is not worth it just for vr at this point. I play wireless frequently and it is more about finding either a dedicated vr router or a dedicated band on that router (5ghz).
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YWC9C50BP4VCJN6Z5H4D?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This usb-c to DisplayPort works with the g2 on my legion, but I also have the Intel version. I think I’ve seen people use that with the AMD CPU’s too, but if you go that route, just keep the packaging in case you need to return it to Amazon.
Got it,
Dumb question but when I read this on Asus site specs, does it mean a HDMI connection over 2.0 with high speed cable can reach up to 144Hz only and that DP can reach up to 170Hz?
>Signal Frequency Digital Signal Frequency :
>DisplayPort: 249~249 KHz(H) / 48~170 Hz (V)
>HDMI: 30~223 KHz (H) / 48~144 Hz (V) "
If I read this correctly then I might get away with HDMI, don't think my GPU will run above 144Hz over 1440p unless I lower graphics a lot on games)
For the Thunderbold to DisplayPort adaptor itself, would something like this do the trick or I should look at something more you think?: Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort Adapter (USB C to DP Adapter) Support up to 8K (7680 x 4320) DisplayPort 1.4 - Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible
Not mini DP. That's my Vive Pro 2 link box that uses that, and that already comes with adapters. No, for any VR thing with a laptop, you need something that has USB C on one side and some form of DP on the other. You need female big DP. I'd need male mini-DP.
I like Cable Matters for example. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ will work. It needs the ports that look like that -- female DP and a USB C, and it needs to say DP 1.4 as the version.
But instead of that, I highly encourage a Thunderbolt 4 dock. That's one special USB C into your computer, and that endures your computer is powered, and that covers both the DP and USB aspects of the Index connection, while also being easy to unplug and leave with your laptop. Also lets you plug more monitors into your computer, and other USB devices. Like full body tracker dongles, for example. (Actually your laptop probably doesn't support extended range USB PD, so you still need that power cable. But the thunderbolt is still useful to have tons of USB plugged in, whereas you only have 3 type A outside of that USB C thunderbolt port.)
That said, I haven't done research on Thunderbolt docks recently, so I don't have one to rec off the top of my head.
Again, with the first option, you need to have the two extra things plugged in, leaving only two other USB ports -- one version 2 and one version 3. That laptop does not have that much IO. But it is what it is.
This is your answer, OP.
You would need a USBC to DP adapter. (And the USBC port needs to be able to do Video out.)
This is the adapter I use:
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MMK2CZ07561YG96K3H63?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
HDMI = no, (mind you, not tried the new HMDI protocol… will need to ask.) but a USBC to DP adapter = yes.
I use this one:
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MMK2CZ07561YG96K3H63?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The thunderbolt usb c port is connected to the gpu via display port 1.4. I have a zephyrus gx701 and it has the same USB c port with display port1.4 Index ran fine though it. Just gotta get a usb c to display port adaptor. This is the adapter I use.
This worked for me
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1TBV5T0XVZHTDQW3ZYS8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
After looking up the laptop that you have it looks like you should have a type c port on there that supports DisplayPort 1.4 so I would try to find a type c to DisplayPort adapter something like this
I have a Mech with AMD and a Rift S. I can confirm that this works great with this adaptor. Every other adaptor I tested didn't work.
Ah, sorry about that. I have a Vive Pro 2, and I forget that most other headsets use male connectors instead of having a link box with female connectors.
This looks like it should work for you, even though it says adapter. A lot of people in the reviews say so. Same trusted company, too. In this case, it only adapts the port, not the signal, which is why it works fine, but yeah, it's definitely a pain how the language is imprecise.
USB-C to DP adapters are basically just straight electrical connections. So really, as far as adapters are concerned, they just need to have the proper sized conductors and be shielded to reject enough noise to provide the bandwidth needed.
When you buy a DP1.4 adapter (or cable), the manufacturer basically just means they tested the device to be able to pass a certain amount of bandwidth.
If you need a recommendation for an actual adapter, I use a bunch of these:
The type C ports are connected to the GPU so you should definitely get video out of the type c ports. Is your monitor 1080p 165hz? I don't have much confidence that your proposed solution would work. Using type A will introduce a bottleneck to your max video signal. I would get a usb C to displayport adapter and skip the dock.
You cannot use a hub, it is not thunderbolt. It is USBC + DP alt mode. That means it is EITHER ad usb-c or displayport, not both.
This is what you need.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
Yes, this allows g-sync and bypasses optimuis as the usbc/altmode dpis directly on the GPU.
I know it's different items but I do exactly this with my G2, Thinkpad X1 Extreme (gen1 1050Ti) and this adapter (similar to yours).
What Nvidia driver are you running? I run 457.30 on my laptop and also my 2070-Super desktop. In both cases I have no problems, so I'm nervous to touch it.
Also -- try plugging in the adapter into your TB3 port, THEN plug the RG2 into the adapter, and THEN plug the power-supply into the mid-line-box in the RG2 cable. It might only take doing it that way once. I never tough the cables now. I just unplug the ps cable from that mid-line-box (when I'm not using VR).
I use that same adapter (linked above) with the RG2 to the USBc-port of my 2070-Super and at other times to the TB3 port of my X1e. I do remember that the exact order of events on plugging things in might have been important.... and the NVidia driver.
GOOD LUCK!!
Yep, have done this on my laptop. Works fine with this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY
Worth noting: my first attempt was via displayport on a thunderbolt dock and that did not work, despite it allegedly having the right specs. Probably just my particular dock, but definitely go with a simple adapter like the one I linked first.
If he's right about the monitor, he's right about the rest. Here's the adapter I use:
Amazon.com: Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort Adapter with 8K HDR DisplayPort 1.4 - USB Type C and Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro and More: Home Audio & Theater
I already tried adapters (Type-C to DisplayPort) I bought on streets and none works. nyankas pointed out that Valve Index is quite picky when it comes to adapter and he recommended this. I ordered one online, should be here next week. Will keep you updated!
Mine doesn't either so I use this and it works perfectly fine.
The Index is very picky when it comes to USB-C to DisplayPort adapters. You might want to try this one, as the comments explicitly mention the Index as working.
Your USB-C port also has to be wired up properly to your GPU. I guess it should be on your laptop but I‘m not sure about that.
Believe it or not I was on Mojave when I first got it working (I since upgraded to Catalina and it thankfully still works).
This is the one I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used the DP cables that came in the box to connect to that.
I meant the USB type C ports, which seem to be Thunderbolt 3 ports according to spec' I found.
A TB3 port is supposed to be able to carry DisplayPort video signal directly without need of an external video card. Like this : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_btf_t1_P82KFb5HMMQCY (dunno if this one is any good, it's just an example)
You can plug in a USB-C dock and get proper native ethernet, video...
But new stuff like this seems rare to work perfectly with Linux. Hence my question :)
So glad you did. It looks like this laptop will work after all!
From the Asus site:
> Alongside the USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C™ with DisplayPort™ 1.4 and Power Delivery, there’s a Type-A port for ultra-fast data transfers...
You should be able to use this adapter on Amazon US. People claim it works both with the Rift S and the Asus GX502, which us similar to the GU502 and Asus describes its USB port exactly the same as the GU502. It's only $18, and in stock.
Others would probably work too, maybe you can drop a few extra dollars and get one directly from a local electronics shop (doesn't seem like Best Buy has them on the shelf).
Apologies, a correction first... My Rift into my Legion 5 is a direct hdmi connection. But it works fantastic.
I have tried a Rift S (DisplayPort) through USB-C on another machine that worked great with the following adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
On the Legion 5 I know that the USB-C (with DisplayPort) is connected directly to the gpu. As long as yours is the same, then you should be fine, but I haven't tried that specific setup to be able to tell you 100%.
I use a zephyrus gaming laptop with my index which has DP over USB C and the adapter I use is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
I can't say for sure it will fix your problem, but this one works for me. I've been using it since the launch of the index.
I use a USBC to DP connector on mt Reverbs G1 and G2. They work just fine so long as the laptop allows the video output and has the right GPU, et al... :)
Sounds like an issue with your adapter or your USB-C port. Make sure the port supports DisplayPort 1.3 or above. Also, male sure the DisplayPort mode is wired to your GPU and not your integrated GPU. If that's all good, maybe try a different adapter. Here's the one I use with my ROG Zephyrus GU-502:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Blade 15 base (2020) and rift s owner here. https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rift+s+usb+c&qid=1597274567&sr=8-1 Using this adapter I'm able to use my rift s on my blade
Can you link the adapter? In any case, I would say it's almost certainly to blame, whether the seller misrepresented the adapter's compatibility with the Index or it's just defective. Slight rainbow static over an otherwise good picture is usually just an issue of "not enough bandwidth". I believe I've seen this particular adapter recommended for it.
Try stepping down the framerate to 90 first, though, or playing with the custom resolution. One thing that always worries me about "VR Ready" laptops is that a lot of them were designated that back during the reign of the Vive and Oculus CV1 when the norm was 2160x1200@90Hz instead of . It's hard to say what they can handle exactly.
Hey! Welcome to the oculus community! First of all I also have a rift s and I have my main pc hooked up that has 3 display ports but I also use a razer blade laptop that doesnt have a display port when I travel or bring it to parties.
Here is an amazon link to an adapter that you should be able to use as long as your laptop has a thunderbolt 3 port if you have any more questions feel free to reply and I will do my best to help!
Maybe try this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=emc_b_5_i
About the same price, but says 8K@60Hz or . They just need to pass the signal through properly, so it's not about the adapter actually being able to process anything, but maybe the "8K" carries an additional pin or something.
I don't think 144Hz is an official thing, but 120Hz is the official Index supported rate and they may just overdrive it a bit. I'm not sure why you'd want a female-to-female DP-DP adapter, as you have a female USB-C port and a male displayport cable, so you want a male USB-C plug and female displayport socket, like in the products I linked. I'd try to avoid chaining adapters as it makes it more likely to run into signal quality issues due to the multiple connections. Basically yes, you're just trying to link the two physical ports and ensure the proper pins are carried through.
Ultimately someone has to get one and report how it works for us to know. :) Good luck.
I haven't had any luck with a USB to DP dongle.. that being said, I've been told, internally, that this dongle may work.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have one on order for testing, but I won't be back into the office until mid June.
One issue worth noting though: I DO have to unplug the Rift before booting Windows; for some reason the OS crashes during boot if it’s plugged in. Not sure if it’s a cable/adapter issue (I use this to connect to the Thunderbolt 3 port), or something else, but it seems it’s a known issue. In any case, only a minor annoyance!
My laptop only has HDMI and Thunderbolt 3 no display port but I have this adapter and it is rated at 120Hz for 2 monitor at 4k. Most are only rated 60Hz and we will need minimum of 80Hz and i know it works with a 75Hz monitor. I'm hoping when best buy start demoing it here i can take my laptop in and see if it works before i buy it.
For people with laptops that have mini displayport, there have been lots of adapters that dont work too well but this one is perfect:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/?coliid=I1NRADOQ99NKB8
Also for people who doesnt want to make holes on the walls, this base station supporters were recommended by some people:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZBW232C/?coliid=IMR4A9FGELP3J
This 6ft / 2m extension seems to work pretty well:
I run HL:A on my laptop. Similar specs, except for the RTX, it's a 2060, the biggest issue is making sure you can get the DP connection to work
Here's the one I use;
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY
That will never work.
You have to use display port over type-C for G-Sync.
Here is what I use on mine:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/
The display also has to support G-Sync for it work.
This adapter works for me. Reverb G2 to Thinkpad X1E1, TB3 port. Both TB3 ports work.
Good luck!
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05927047 - laptop supports only DisplayPort 1.2 over TB3 or USB-C with DP ports:
> 1 HDMI; 1 Thunderbolt™ 3 (Data up to 40 Gb/s, Power Delivery, DP1.2, HP Sleep and Charge); 1 headphone/microphone combo; 1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (HP Sleep and Charge); 1 USB 3.1 Type-C™ Gen 1 (Data up to 5 Gb/s, Power Delivery, DP1.2, HP Sleep and Charge)
HP USB-C Dock G5 doesn't support Thunderbolt 3, but only USB-C with DP and will provide 50% of DP1.2 bandwidth + USB3 (as most USB-C-only docks) on this machine on both ports (laptop's TB3 is backward compatible with USB-C with DP). Half of the DP1.2 bandwidth is only enough for 2 1920x1200 60Hz 8bpc, but not three: https://linustechtips.com/topic/729232-guide-to-display-cables-adapters-v2/?section=calc&H=1920&V=1200&F=180&calculations=show&formulas=show ~11.31 Gbit/s is more than 0.5 * 17.28Gbit/s. (not enough bandwidth to drive USB3 + three 1920x1200 60Hz via USB-C with DP1.2 - the impact of USB3 via the same port is explained in https://www.bigmessowires.com/2019/05/19/explaining-4k-60hz-video-through-usb-c-hub/).
HP Thunderbolt Dock G2 connected in TB3 port would be a better match and allow to have USB3 and all three monitors at the same time (when connected to TB3 port on the laptop). You can try to see if the option to use USB*2* + 100% bandwidth for DP1.2 is available in your laptop's BIOS when connected to HP USB-C Dock G5, but it is supported on a limited number of HP laptops for this dock - https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06575423. Or you can try to move one monitor to a separate USB-C port on the laptop via ~20$ adapter like https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY.
Really? The official site states Duo 15 VR ready? Never seen it before could it be the retailer store’s statement?
All duo15’s hardwares are compatible to VRs though, especially it’s Thunderbolt 3 port. I bought the adapter from the first store I found on street. It might be the reason why it’s not working as VRs are quite picky on adapters.
A guy explained and suggested an adapter. You can find his answer here
So the reason my hand is up in a weird position in all of these is because I had FPSVR running and thought I was capturing it to show my FPS. But I guess it doesn't capture the overlay. My bad.
I used this adapter: Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort Adapter with 8K HDR DisplayPort 1.4 - USB Type C and Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro and More
I actually usually play VR on my desktop (7700k/980Ti) but one reason I bought the G14 was the possibility of playing VR on it. It's a lot easier to just bring the laptop to places (when it's safe again) than my desktop. There wasn't a whole lot of information on if it was possible (that is, is the USB-C DP connected to the AMD CPU or the Nvidia GPU?) so I asked around and got a semi-solid answer that it was connected to the GPU. However, no one could tell me "Yes, I have a Valve Index and yes, I can play it on my G14." So that's what I'm doing here in case anyone searches this up in the future.
Half Life Alyx: The game initially set it to medium settings, but I got a lot of jitters and high reprojecting ratio (13%). I set it to low and those jitters virtually all vanished (but not entirely). As I continued to play, the reprojecting ratio dropped to 9% over the next 30m of play.
I noticed that the game removes defeated enemies quickly, much quicker than when I played on desktop. I wonder if that's due to the 2060 having less VRAM than my 980Ti. Not that big of a deal. While the game looks amazing (Valve did a real good job to make sure this game runs well on a variety of setups), I did see some awkward shimmering in far away items (i.e. Russell's desktop) when I move far enough back.
Honestly, I'm pretty impressed at how well it handled the game. I don't get motion sick, so I can't really comment on that aspect. But I can see myself playing the entire game without issue. I did notice that when the Vortigaunt was doing his show (the last few of my screenshots), the fps absolutely tanked. Down to 50fps from an otherwise solid 90fps. Since it's not a gameplay moment, it's not a big deal. But it makes me wonder about some of the scenes in the last quarter of the game when there's a lot more happening.
Beat Saber: Only tried one song. But it was 90fps the entire way though. Not too surprising considering it's a very simple game, graphicswise. Shouldn't be a problem at all to run in the future.
Yes, my fans were loud. It's virtually impossible to hear when you're playing VR. But when I stopped a game, I could definitely hear it running.
You practically can't find a post about VR on the G14 that doesn't say you either must or really should use USB-C to DP, and that the Nvidia card is tied to the left USB port. Some also make it clear that the HDMI port is iGPU only.
Time is how long to find from typing "VR" in the search bar to finding the comment. First thread is the second result (after this post).
10 seconds: https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/hnlwo3/zephryus_g14_the_portable_vr_flagship/ (I needed USB c to DP)
25 seconds, same thread: I use my vive with my g14, I tried it first with the HDMI port, which was a huge mistake because the HDMI output is fucking gross in VR due to the latency. I switched to a USB-C hub though, and now its perfect!
******Note that as this states, HDMI does work, but sucks, so I am not sure that the HDMI port doesn't work as you say.******
45 seconds, same thread:
Make sure you buy the monoprice adapter or the cable matters adapter with the cable attached and not the little cable matters adapter with no cable. That one does not work with g14. Heres some links to working cables: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13234
Personally i think the monoprice one is better but i use the other one and can confirm it works perfectly fine. Also your dGpu is tied to the left usbc port so plug it into that one.
1 minute, 30 seconds: https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/hjpgah/do_any_of_you_who_own_the_laptop_play_vr_with_it/
Here is the cable. It's one of the few USB C's that is compatible with the Quest. Just make sure you use the USB C port on the left hand side of the laptop as that is tied with the Nvidia GPU.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076CV7MPB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
1 minute, 50 seconds, same thread:
Should work wonders. The hdmi is tied to the iGPU while the usbc is tied to the 2060gtx so use that for gaming.
2 minutes, 15 seconds, same thread:
I use the Oculus Rift S, and it works great! You do need a usb-c to displayport adapter, which you can get for fairly cheap on amazon. The performance is pretty good, but it does tend to slow down a little bit when a lot is going on.
Overall I'm pretty happy with it, some games I play include boneworks, HL: Alyx, H3VR, beat saber, COMPOUND, and Pavlov
Other threads found in the next 3 minutes with lots of stuff about this making it pretty clear:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/g3fkny/g14_with_oculus_rift_s_vr_headset/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/g6fkal/just_tested_the_g14_with_oculus_rift_s_and_it/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/hievmp/g14_vr_troubles_with_oculus_rift_cv1/
Ones that include people with issues with the iGPU. These may actually help with your issue:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/g3d942/any_luck_with_vrwmr/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/gzumsu/how_do_i_switch_my_gpu_to_rtx_2060_from_radeon/
Honestly, I screwed up in my first post and acknowledged it, but I still wanted to point out that relevant information is readily available if you search effectively. However, I still keep getting downvoted, so I figured I may as well keep going for it. If nothing else this will act as another place people who find this thread based on your title can go to and learn more, so hopefully it will be helpful.
I have had success with this one on a Lenovo Legion 5 with a 3060 in it:
id reccomend getting this adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
its specifically compatible with a vr headset so should work.
BUT
I belive you can disable the Igpu compleatly in ROGs controll software. if its not on your PC then you can probably download it off the support page for your laptop, i saw it in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/o49y67/asus_rog_strix_g15_g513_igpu_and_dgpu/
This is the one exception to adapters that the Index will work with.
USB-C to DisplayPort adapters WILL work with the Index, HOWEVER, that USB-C port must be a DP Alt-Mode port, which is what your laptop has.
Source: I run this very setup on my own laptop: https://i.imgur.com/BWh8Qjg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yDhKEYE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/weyDAV6.jpg
Just something to note; it will work, however it can be finnicky at times. Be prepared to restart your laptop a lot if you unplug your Index from your laptop to... ya' know, use it as a laptop and move it around. For me, SteamVR tends to throw a display error and the HMD's screen flashes. Restarting my laptop with the HMD still connected fixes this.
This is the adapter I am using: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This cable works for the Legion 5 and Reverb G2:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
​
With no success, I’ve been trying to connect another video input (My Steam Deck *specifically*) to my new Apple studio display(2022). I tried several dongles from Amazon. I know the display can take a DisplayPort 1.4 signal, but I still got no signal on the (ASDP). I tried with two of those adapters but still got no luck. I tried on my steam deck and another phone with USB-c (video-HDMI/DisplayPort output) I got a USB-c to DisplayPort adapter, and it didn't work. I tried on the Mac with these two adapters (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083YWGPW1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) I tried the Displayport bidirectional to see if that would give me any video signal from the USB-C to DisplayPort and got the same results. I also tried to do it on my Macbook Pro to see if it was an incompatibility issue and still got the same results…..
​
Here are all the dongles that I've used already: 1- https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-USB-C-Supporting/dp/B01J6DT070?pldnSite=1&th=1
2} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083YWGPW1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
​
3} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083YWGPW1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
5} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JW7GT7H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
6} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081VBSNRZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
7} https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LM2T7GC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
still no success....
Yes, TB4 has DisplayPort included in its spec. You don’t need a specific TB4 adapter; just get a USB C to DisplayPort adapter like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY This one had good reviews
To use the USB-C connectors, you need this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY. I don't know what max resolutions you'll get hooking up that way. I'm too lazy to read your computer's manual.
Refering to this, I found this: USB 3.2 Type-C™ with DisplayPort™ 1.4
I've used this adapter with good results.
Good luck.
DP 1.4 is perfect. Haven't needed to use it myself but it seems like this adapter was popular here
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
This is the specific one I used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY
I suppose anything that supports Displayport 1.2 or above would work? That's what the Index requires
I would highly recommend not getting the first one (Maxonar). I bought it since they claimed that it was VESA certified, but it's not, and I had a terrible display flicker issue every time G-Sync is turned on (on my ROG XG279Q monitor).
I went ahead and bought thisthis adapter from Cable Matters. Even though it's not VESA certified adapter, everything works flawlessly now, and Cable Matters is a listed manufacturer for many VESA certified cables, so I would highly recommend it.
Yes, I'm using a Display Port 1.4 cable and connecting it to my Mac Mini using this adapter
^This
I used this USBC -> DP adapter and it worked great with my Index:
The sweet spot for new hardware is probably an RTX 3070 for VR. Small Pre-Builts that are cheap are pretty rare. Here are a couple of recommendations:
HP OMEN (5800x, RTX 3070)
This is a full tower, but It may work your your space.
This think is expensive however, its a compact full, desktop that will fit great next to a TV
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA503 (R9 5900S, RTX 3080 mobile)
This one is a bit of an off hand recommendation, but you could get a gaming laptop with Thunderbolt or mini displayport (you MUST have display port to use with an index). Obviously a laptop will fit just about anywhere, and this one has usb 3.2 ports that natively support a full Display port 1.4 connection. You will need one of these adapters for this laptop.
I used a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter and it worked fine with my laptop.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
Hello, thank you for responding to my post. Yeah I kinda gave up on it, could not make it to work. Just like your set-up, my laptop's USB-C is connected to the GPU(RTX3060) but for some reason it does not detect the headset during set up. I installed/uninstalled the Vive software multiple times, followed set up guide multiple times but no luck. I even bought 2 types of USB C adapter just to be sure but still did not get it to detect the headset. Headset light is red all the time, which means it's not connected.
The following USB-C adapters I used:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082LNGMHJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
My question, how were you able to make it work/detect it? I set-up the GPU on Physix settings processor to nvidia RTX3060.
I'm so tempted to uninstall the nvidia drivers and re-install new one. And totally remove armoury crate, such a piece of crap sw. Please advise if you can, sorry for delayed response...waited few days after my 1st post but no help came.
Cable Matters USB C to... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
This is what I'm using with no issues.
Thanks!
I think I've got it as best as I can now. I'm using the Plugable HDMI->DP adapter into the Cable Matters DP->USB-C adapter.
Doing this I'm able to get 5120x1440@51Hz with HDR on my 15 inch 2017 MacBook Pro with Radeon Pro 560 using SwitchResX. Anything over 51Hz and it the picture on the screen has all kinds of bars and is mostly green.
But I'm satisfied with this solution. Much cheaper than buying a high end DisplayPort switch.
This is the one I use. Cable Matters USB C to... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY
| Item | Current | Lowest | Reviews |
|---|---|---|---|
| Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter wi… | $17.98 | $17.98 | 4.4/5.0 |
^Item Info | Bot Info | Trigger
how did you get it to work? Mine is having some trouble. Using the same setup GS66 valve index. with this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o07\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I’ve got 5120x1440@120hz with Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_31QWKCPMVTQPGRWPD4GW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Oh shit. Man I didn't set a reminder and totally forgot about it. He's full of shit. Just tested it out. Hooked it up to my Legion 7i with a 3080 via TB4 to DP adapter. Here are some pictures and link to a video I made.
Nvidia ? If so you can check the ports in control panel and if you have a displayport passthrough this cables worked for me
OK, so 4K@60Hz isn't enough. I found a Cable Matters 8K@60Hz (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it seems to work perfectly. Nice that it explicitly states it works with Rift S as well.
No. Gsync only works over HDMI 2.1 and the HDMI port on the laptop is HDMI 2.0b. You'll need a USB-C to DisplayPort cable and plug the monitor into your laptop's USB-C port.
Just tried it. Both delivered 4k 60hz.
I suspect it's because the Displayport from my dock may not be capable. I'm ordering a USB-C to Displayport 1.4 adapter to go straight from the laptop and keeping the Displayport 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 cable I just received to run from the adapter to the TV. That'd remove my dock from the equation and provide a definitive answer. This is getting pretty messy though 😕
What I'm testing next: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
I'm returning the adapter I got but am keeping this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B094XR43M5/
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter with 8K@60hz, 4K@144hz and HDR Support - Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 / Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible with Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY
An update, I have been trying to get wide fov on a Razer blade 14, using this adaptor to connect the device: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJYSomeone else recommended that cable for the vive and razor blade 14.
Plugging the pimax directly into another system/directly into a gpu gets me the large fov settings I expected under games. I now suspect that adaptor might be part of the problem, but I will try to reinstall pitools on the laptop and see if I can get the same behavior as below on it.
​
Here you go:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
you're welcome.
| Item | Current | Lowest | Reviews |
|---|---|---|---|
| Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Adapter wi… | - | - | 4.4/5.0 |
^Item Info | Bot Info | Trigger
I have the MSI GS66 as well and I use a thunderbolt (USBC) to display port. It gets the fastest refresh rate and works without any issues.
Cable Matters USB C to... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY this works with Index and Rift S confirmed by many of the reviews on Amazon.
Hey!
So a couple of things you need to know after I got my Rift S working today after working on the blade 14 and Rift for about one week now.
For adapters. Your USB connection already on the Rift will plug into one of the 2 USB ports on the blade with no problem. For the Displayport, you need a Displayport -> USB C adapter. There are some that don't work and some that do. After a few not working this one from amazon did work.
Your blade 14 WILL NOT WORK out of the box for OCULUS. The NVIDIA driver for whichever card you chose will not work. After researching for way too many hours I'm going to save you a lot of time. The only solution that has so far worked is linked below. Follow the instructions to the letter, you really can't skip any. Otherwise, you will just get a black screen on your rift.
​
Hope this helps you out fam!
>https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
So the WD19TB will be a safe bet for me then? And at most I will need the adaptor as an extra on top of it?
I have this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 from cable matters also.
Works PERFECT at 3440x1440 144hz. If that cable behave just like this adapter, then I would recommend.
If specs contain "USB-C with DisplayPort 1.4" or something similar - the laptop supports native video signal over USB-C and dongles like https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY or https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Aluminum-Pixelbook-Compatible-Thunderbolt/dp/B07THJGZ9Z or even docks like HP USB-C Dock G5 should work.
Choice of the dock would be safer to do based on what exact monitor resolution and refresh rate (for each monitor) you have + the exact laptop model number: e.g., for 15-ep0061nf we can see full specs - https://support.hp.com/my-en/document/c06722678 shows 2 Thunderbolt™ 3 (40Gbps signaling rate) with SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 10Gbps signaling rate (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge) and while it still means USB-C with DisplayPort works, Thunderbolt 3 enables more powerful options (e.g., HP Thunderbolt Dock G2).
I did get my 2020 Razer Blade 15 RTX2060 working with my G2 using this adapter. I was actually quite surprised it worked.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It’s the adapter your using. Use this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/BB. . I’ve read for the index you’ll need an adapter capable of 8k60hz. I’ve been using it on my zephyrus S gx531gxr with no issues whatsoever. Others in the amazon reviews have used on zephyrus as well.
I haven't used this one specifically, but I've used a ton of Cable Matters adapters throughout the last decade. If I were in your boat, I'd bet this one would be a good bet: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
>I'm trying to determine if they can add a 4K/60hz monitor to make this a dual external screen setup
The dongle will work because it allocates all 4 lanes for the video to support 4K 60Hz, but Lenovo 40AS is 2 lanes for video + USB3 (it will provide only 50% of DP1.2 total bandwidth on DP1.2 Systems like T490s). https://www.bigmessowires.com/2019/05/19/explaining-4k-60hz-video-through-usb-c-hub/ explains why for USB-C-only docks it's either USB3 + 2 lanes for video or USB2 + 4 lanes for video. Therefore your options:
20$ dongle in 2nd USB-C port to support 4K 60Hz and leave 40AS to handle USB3 + 1080p 60Hz (HDMI is 1.4 only and cannot handle 4K 60Hz anyway).
Using USB*2* + 4 lanes for video dock like https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Multiport-DisplayPort-Ethernet/dp/B0746NKVBN instead of 40AS to support both monitors via single port (but you will sacrifice USB3).
TB3 dock on T490s can support one DP1.2 stream + USB3, so something like 4K + 1080p + USB3 works with Lenovo 40AN0135** via single cable to the TB3 port.
I use this adapter
You need TB3 for dual 4K 60Hz via a single cable (e.g., Lenovo 40AN or 40AC) or use both USB-C ports simultaneously. If your USB-C only hub supports a single 4K 60Hz, then adding https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY USB-C to DP adapter into the 2nd port should be enough (USB-C to HDMI2.0 active adapter would work - like https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Aluminum-Pixelbook-Compatible-Thunderbolt/dp/B07THJGZ9Z; passive adapter won't work for 4K 60Hz)
I don't think 40AJ ("ultra docking station") supports dual 4K 60Hz. It should be at best 4K 60Hz + 4K 30Hz + USB3 (dual USB-C connections).
If you need only external displays and no extra GPU performance needed - plenty of docks over USB-C and TB3 https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/wiki/newdocks (20$ USB-C to DP1.4 being one cost-effective option https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY). But it sounds like you wanted newer games, so a better GPU is desirable.
You can spend ~300$ on an eGPU case like Razer Core X (not counting buying a new GPU itself), which is not much cheaper vs. upgrading CPU+motherboard+RAM (I would guess ~600$ total would be possible and better than what P1 Gen2 CPU can do with some 8-core Ryzen 3000 at least)
For people who don't have space for a desktop PC or strongly prefer to stick with one machine to not synchronize between several machines, eGPU kind of works. You can still get ~80% of GPU performance (at least on the external screen) but will be CPU limited on some loads, and laptop thermal issues may show up. Check out r/egpu and egpu.io
As the other poster noted, you have USB-C with DisplayPort (and Thunderbolt 3 too) on your laptop.
I would connect via DP with https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY or https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-USB-C-Supporting/dp/B01J6DT070 to make daisy-chaining possible if you add 2nd 2560x1440 60Hz later. (daisy-chaining won't work via HDMI).
Fancier options with docks possible, but not necessary to just connect the monitor. https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/wiki/newdocks
Omg the adapter works on Valve Index!! Should be a green light for RiftS too!!
It works with this adapter here!!!!
>When I connect HDMI to the laptop port should it be shown as connected to the MX130? Maybe there's a problem?
This is definitely not what I expected, but the reality is the only right thing anyway. So when the manual "suggested" the discrete version of the laptop has an HDMI2.0 port, I expected it was wired to NVIDIA GPU directly (instead of Intel GPU). Maybe that obscure note in the manual is completely incorrect, and you have only HDMI1.4 as most laptops of that year, or maybe they added an extra chip to convert DP1.2 signal to HDMI2.0 on the dGPU version of motherboards. So far, I couldn't find schematics or block diagram for your variation of the Latitude 5591, only the "basic" one (non-TBT with iGPU only like this) which makes it hard to figure out some details like what did they do with Thunderbolt controller (does iGPU or dGPU provide the video signal for it, can it support dual DP1.2 bandwidth or not).
So under the assumption that the TB3 controller can drive dual DisplayPort 1.2 (via iGPU or dGPU), TB3 dock like Dell WD19TB (Lenovo 40AN, Lenovo 40AC, etc.) for driving the smaller screen via HDMI2.0 and the bigger one via TB3 downstream port + USB-C to DP converter may work. I cannot verify 100% that the laptop supports dual DP1.2 via TB3, but at least I know that the TB3 controller they use is capable of doing it (similar config's probe at https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?probe=a6dcba707c shows Alpine Ridge JHL6340 - single port, but not LP variation, that can do it). Can you try a USB-C to DP dongle like https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY to connect to the USB-C input of the laptop and try to drive the smaller and the bigger parts of the screen at 120Hz? What Advanced Display Settings will show in that case - NVIDIA GPU or Intel GPU? This is useful to validate that at least one DisplayPort 1.2 stream from your laptop (without TB3 for now) can drive "half" of the monitor. If this succeeds - finding TB3 dock with dual DP stream support would be interesting to try, though not guaranteed to work, again :(
With D6000, it's hard to say what will work. It should have worked from the beginning - it's capable of driving dual 4K 60Hz, after all. But DisplayLink is a "USB video card", with its own drivers and issues, generally plenty of complaints with those even on simple setups.
One more thing - it appears the monitor should have a DisplayPort version menu item somewhere. Does switching it to DP1.2 change anything (if USB-C to DP dongle failed by default)?
I something like this may work? Reviews say it works with the 2080 max q -- https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
The manual suggests that the laptop has miniDP and USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports in addition to HDMI. You could add a 20$ USB-C to DP adapter or miniDP to DP cable. I don't know if HDMI and miniDP on this laptop share the same DP signal path and cannot be used at the same time, but you could start from one adapter and try or verify with r/Alienware (also some ports might be connected to iGPU instead of dGPU, so if you have NVIDIA dGPU G-SYNC may work only on some outputs).
This adapter works for my laptop (Aero) and index.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
One macOS TB3 laptop + one USB-C only laptop is one of the more painful combinations. macOS requires TB3 to support multiple displays via one cable (because DisplayPort MST is not supported in macOS, e.g. USB-C only MacBook 12" can support only 1 display per connector), at the same time USB-C only laptop has no TB3 and requires DisplayPort MST to do it.
One solution is to use universal docks like Pluggable TBT3-UDZ - I didn't test it personally, but based on the description it can directly support up to dual WQHD 60Hz on DisplayPort 1.4 USB-C only systems and Thunderbolt 3 Apple systems. There was an older Caldigit dock that probably supports only DisplayPort 1.2, but at least a similar claim on dual 1080p 60Hz in TB3 and USB-C only mode. Not every TB3 dock that can degrade into USB-C mode will support multiple monitors on macOS as is: Lenovo 40AS (and its older DP1.2 only sibling 40AC) will require adding 20$ USB-C -> DisplayPort dongle to their front Thunderbolt port for the second monitor on macOS (so dock works, but you have to re-plug one DisplayPort cable when you switch between Ryzen 4000 Windows machine to macOS MBP). Similar things with Dell WD19TB (it also has "downstream" TB port and it's required for dual-monitor macOS configs).
An easier solution is just to buy a 20$ USB-C -> DisplayPort dongle and re-plug your second monitor to 2nd TB3 port of MBP. Since you already have 40AS purchased, at least you won't have to spend more money on new expensive universal TB3 dock.
It seems to work on DP only. So you need a USB-C to DP adapter :)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
WD19 only support half of the DisplayPort bandwidth - see manual, note only 2 lanes (HBR2 or HBR3 depending on standard) is available out of 4.
1440p 144Hz would require slightly more than half DisplayPort 1.4 - see calculator, therefore WD19 won't give you the full 144Hz refresh rate, but 120Hz should work. Simple USB-C -> DisplayPort 1.4 dongles would though (example dongle)
It might just be the adapter. This is the one I use.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But some laptops just don't work with displayport to USB for Rift S because of the way they are configured. But might be worth trying a different adapter, it's really your only chance. HDMI adapters don't work at all.
I was able to get 144hz 1080 output from the usb-c port to a pixio gaming monitor (PXC273) over displayport using the following adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z9PGGH8SP0TP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+c+displayport+1.4&qid=1600842253&s=electronics&sprefix=usb+c+display%2Celectronics%2C172&... I was also able to output 4k usb-c to HDMI to a TCL tv using the following adapter: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-type-c-to-4k-hdmi-adapter-white/4480802.p?skuId=4480802 GL folks
I was able to get 144hz 1080 output from the usb-c port to a pixio (PXC273) over displayport using the following adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z9PGGH8SP0TP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+c+displayport+1.4&qid=1600842253&s=electronics&sprefix=usb+c+display%2Celectronics%2C172&... I was also able to output 4k usb-c to HDMI to a TCL tv using the following adapter: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-type-c-to-4k-hdmi-adapter-white/4480802.p?skuId=4480802 GL folks
I was able to get 144hz 1080 output from the usb-c port to a pixio (PXC273) over displayport using the following adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z9PGGH8SP0TP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+c+displayport+1.4&qid=1600842253&s=electronics&sprefix=usb+c+display%2Celectronics%2C172&... I was also able to output 4k usb-c to HDMI to a TCL tv using the following adapter: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-type-c-to-4k-hdmi-adapter-white/4480802.p?skuId=4480802 GL folks
I haven't had any issues using a Rift S on the internal gpu. But I've only tried it a few times, mostly use the Quest as well. Could be the connector, I found that it was important for another computer to work to have the right connector. Here's the one I use:
https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Adapter-Resolution/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
Personally I think I’d prefer 38” for the extra vertical room. I used to do everything on 16:10 monitors and it would probably make my brain happier tbh.
As for 50hz it’s really hard to say conclusively without trying it for a day or so. It does seem a bit less smooth compared to 120hz when I move a window around or drag my cursor, but it’s not very frequent I do this and it really is going depend on the individual.
One last note. I’m not sure which X1 you have but if it has a USB C or thunderbolt 3 with video out you could simply pick up a USB C to DisplayPort adapter and switch between PC and laptop by swapping to cable.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY
https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-QGeeM-Thunderbolt-Displayport-Compatible/dp/B07YDNSGY2
Try amazon smile to donate to charity automatically at no cost to you!
https://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z9PGGH8SP0TP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+c+displayport+1.4&qid=1600842253&s=electronics&sprefix=usb+c+display%2Celectronics%2C172&sr=1-3
^^^I'm ^^^a ^^^bot ^^^and ^^^this ^^^action ^^^was ^^^preformed ^^^automatically.
I had to go through a few Amazon USB-C to DP adapters to find one that was actually DP1.4 compatible for high refresh rate (I have a 5k, 5120x1400 @ 120hz panel). Despite amazon listings saying they were DP1.4 compatible the first two I bought were not. They would work for a minute then go black, then come back, then go black.
Got this Cable Matters one and it works flawlessly at 5120x1440 @ 120hz so you should have no problem on a 1080/1440p monitor at 144hz.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_.3kXEbH9VTHB8
>With the index being one USB port and one display port I have no doubt it would've worked on that laptop as well with less issues.
Thanks for the tip. I looked into the alienware models and found them to be a bit overpriced for what one is getting. In short my local department store has the model I've given up there with windows 10 already installed for less than 2 grand and this model was only released end of last year so more or less, if I can get the index working on it, I should be good to go.
I fished around a bit more and found this: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY?th=1
It's the amazon page for that adapter and there are at least two recent reviews that confirm they hooked up their valve index to a USB C port using it. This seems like a good enough indication to try it out this way.
Yup, that’s the laptop I’ve got. I went with the usb C display port adapter off of amazon below. Have fun! :)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_Qp8dEb34PJET3
Side note: I've done some searching and found some Amazon reviews for the Rift S on used the same exact model laptop I have (GS75 Stealth 8SF) with the same brand and model adapter I'm using, they claim it's working perfectly for them. (Link to adapter below)
Maybe an updated driver of some sort is causing problem? I'm considering doing a fresh windows install without the MSI bloatware
The adapter I'm using: Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort Adapter with 8K HDR DisplayPort 1.4 - USB Type C and Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible for Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Book 2 and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hTP8DbDDQH4YJ
Laptop Specs: https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS75-Stealth-8SX/Specification
This is the magic adapter that should work, *IF AND ONLY IF* your USB-C port supports DisplayPort alternate mode (aka "video out") *AND* it connects to your fast video card (not the Intel HD one, for example):
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/
I have the Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED and the Index works fine with the usbc on left side of the laptop that supports display port 1.4.
Here is the adapter I am using: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5BYADbZSK6K04
Should it be possible with this adapter ? https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=sr_1_9?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3CWLOWQDTACRV&keywords=usb+c+to+displayport&qid=1563383308&s=gateway&sprefix=usb+c+to+di%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-9
NOTE: that I have not tested this yet, but a co-worker got Reverb working with the new dual-screen Omen using this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
​
I'm out on business travel for the next month, and I have one waiting of me at the office, but I won't be able to do any testing for a couple of weeks.
What about using the USB-C Port? https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Aluminum-Compatible/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ Or does the card not go through that?
Fairly sure you can't do that on HDMI 2.0, it is limited to 4:2:0 on 10bit or 30Hz, which would be fine for video.
​
First make sure your screen actually supports this and has DP1.4. There are 4K screens out there that don't have DP1.4, it's actually only the very recent ones that do. Even then I think it needs to support DSC feature to work, not 100 percent clear on that. Overall to take advantage of newer limits of DP1.4 the display needs to have DSC.
​
As to which cable to get, they might not state DP version but if they support 8K60 they are 1.4. Like this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=emc_b_5_t
​
Overall I believe consumer grade hardware is limited to 4:2:0 when dealing with 10bit, I don't think it will work.
​
​
​
This is what I use on my laptop. You need to have a thunderbolt port though.
Cable Matters USB C to DisplayPort Adapter (USB C to DP Adapter) Support up to 8K (7680 x 4320) DisplayPort 1.4 - Thunderbolt 3 Port Compatible for Oculus Rift S, MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Book 2 and More https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07F17ZHJY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_APZP4P9P44QXGF0DHXTW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I think using a Thunderbolt to DP would be worth a try. HDMI was buggy for me, but I'm currently using this adapter to run 3440x1440 at 120 Hz and it works very well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F17ZHJY
Popular alternatives to Cable Matters USB C to Disp...
StarTech.com SATA to USB Cable - USB 3.0 to 2.5” SATA III Hard Drive Adapter - External Converter for SSD/HDD Data Transfer (USB3S2SAT3CB)
Anker USB C Cable, Powerline USB 3.0 to USB C Charger Cable (10ft) with 56k Ohm Pull-up Resistor for Samsung Galaxy Note 8, S8, S8+, S9, Oculus Quest, Sony XZ, LG V20 G5 G6, HTC 10 and More
