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Canon EOS Rebel T5i
I read my stadiums camera policy and it didn't say it was banned, just no telephoto lenses, so I took the chance of bringing it. I was so nervous that one of the stadium employees would say it wasn't allowed but no one had an issue with it.
I'm looking to get a digital SLR, and am looking at the Canon Rebel T5i. I have so many questions. Should I get a body only, and invest in lenses later?
I would like the camera to be able to take the weather; be it rain, dirt, and a bit of abuse, as I plan to use it mountain biking and for winter sports. The reason I was looking at the t5i is apparently they have a better processor? Or does that even matter? I'm looking to spend around $400-$600. the link is what I am tempted to buy. And what should I know about warranties if I buy stuff online regarding photography gear, is it still all based on a manufacturers warranty?
Definitely would want to get the Canon EOS Rebel T5i EF-S Ranked as the best low budget camera at your suggested price. It has excellent customer reviews with a 4.7 out of 5 star rating.
The Canon EOS Rebel T5i EF-S 18-55 IS STM Kit will do it for $600.
Someone that knows DSLR setups might better be able to suggest a product, but I found that from a quick search on amazon.
I do plan on shooting outdoors as much if not more than I shoot indoors. You've set my heart on experimenting with the shotgun mic now.
I like the Canon. I was looking at the t3i and now looking at the t5i. This one was the first that popped up. What do you think about it?
It seems lighting is far more important than I expected so that's going to have to be considered now. I'm going barebones in this department for now.
You've sold me on the white balance card too.
And yeah I didn't even think about the bag but I'll need one as well.
I'm not dead set on the fun focus effect yet, I think getting wrapped up in fancy stuff before I've gone out shooting a single thing yet will be a mistake.
Thank you so very much for being so helpful and comprehensive.
You can get the Rebel T5i with the 18-55mm kit lens for $650 on Amazon. My T2i is still going strong. I splurged on the 17-55mm as my walk-around lens, but the kit lens is quite good.
This is a better bundle, IMO (the 18-55 + 55-250). None of those crappy junk filters and converters (which you will never use, because you neither need them nor do they make your images look good) and it costs $50 less. I have the Amazon Basics tripod and it's pretty good for a $20 tripod around the yard. I'm not doing anything too difficult with it, but it can handle a decent amount of weight.
Only things you may want to add in the future are:
I fell in love with photography the exact same way! Started with my first iPhone which was a 5s and I was in love hah! Eventually decided to buy a canon rebel T3i. A few photographer friends of mine all suggested this camera and it was a GOOD buy! I had it for at least a year before I upgraded to a canon 7D. To this day I still use the T3i alongside my 7D.
Though the T3i is a discontinued camera you can sill buy it on amazon or eBay for pretty cheap along with a kit lens that will be enough to get you started.
I STRONGLY recommend buying something used! Especially for your first camera. Cameras and lenses hold their value and quality for YEARS so there is usually no worry when buying a body used in good quality. Both my T3i and 7D, along with almost all my lenses including my L series lens I got all used! No problems whatsoever.
This is a Canon Rebel T5i it’s an upgraded version from the T3i, which is discontinued and pretty old at this point. The T5i will be a GREAT starter camera! It’s a little out of your budget brand new but scroll down and click USED to see many other used options all within your budget. Select one that’s “very good” or “like new” and you’ll have no problem! Along with the 18-55mm kit lens that comes with you’ll want to purchase one more lens.. the Canon 50mm f1.8 aka ‘nifty fifty’. This is the suggested first lens purchase by thousands. Literally ask a thousand photographers what’s the first lens you should buy and that’s what they’ll tell you the nifty fifty! And it’s only $125 brand new! (The only lens I’ve bought new), though you can get it cheaper for used.
This is a phenomenal professional grade starter DSLR that will last you years! And I promise oh won’t be disappointed with it.
Finally you’ll want to invest in an Adobe Lightroom subscription. For $10/Mo you can get both Lightroom and Photoshop. Lightroom will be your hub for organizing photos as well as editing them. The program is super powerful and can be a bit tedious to learn, but follow some YouTube videos and tutorials like some from Anthony Morganti and you will learn quick! I’ve watched almost all of his videos (there’s hundreds) and every video I learn something new!
Best of luck to you and I’m excited for you to get started in such a great hobby!
edit: oh BTW! Once you get a DSLR you will have total control over all settings in your camera, which you probably didn’t have before on your phone. So the first step with a DSLR is learning how Aperture, Shutter Speed, and ISO interact with each other. This is how you can get those awesome short depth of field shots you mentioned with the background blurry and bokeh’d. this is a great video to help understand the “focus triangle” and learn how those 3 settings interact with each other! That’s also another great tutorial YouTube channel so I suggest subscribing to them and watching some other of their videos as well.
another edit: btw the 750D you mentioned is a newer version of the T5i. 750D is called the T6i in America, also another great option! I didn’t suggest it because it’s a bit out of tour budget but again I’m sure you can find it used in your budget! If the T6i fits your budget then definitely opt for that option as it’s newer and has a few more features upgraded features, but the T5i is great as well!
> I am looking at the t5i because I want to do some more creative serious film and vlog
/u/otterscanfly - welcome to the world of digital filmmaking!
I started with a Canon T2i and, although Canon Rebels are great starter cameras for photography, you can do a lot better for video in 2017.
In this price class, Canon DSLRs lack:
video resolution higher than 1920 x 1080p (here is why you want to shoot 4K, here is why material originated at 4K looks better on a 1080p monitor than material originated at 1080p, and here is how to handle editing 4K material on older computers by using proxies)
a usable viewfinder when you switch to "Live View" (video) mode (the optical viewfinder is blocked by the reflex mirror)
compatibility with silent, video optimized lenses (here is the problem with noisy Canon STM autofocus motors)
compatibility with affordable power zoom lenses
frame rates higher than 30 frames per second at 1080p (modern cameras record at 60 fps in full HD [at least])
built-in intervalometer for timelapse (yes, you can fix this with Magic Lantern, but you shouldn't have to)
Canon DSLRs in this price class also suffer from a phenomenon known as "moire" as the result of poor downscaling. Mirrorless Panasonic G and GH cameras, on the other hand, have a better downscaling algorithm. Here are a couple of side-by-sides between the Canon 60D and a moire-resistant Panasonic GH camera:
60D vs GH2 Moire Test
Canon 60D vs Panasonic GH2 evil moiré test
Newer Canon cameras are not much better. Here is a side-by-side between the Canon 60D and 70D:
For the same price as a $599.95 Canon T5i with the 18-55mm STM kit lens, you can get a brand new, open box Panasonic G7 with the 14-42mm kit lens [Referral Links].
This camera has 3840x2160p Ultra High Definition "4K" resolution (4 times the resolution of the T5i or any Canon DSLR below $3000), a built-in intervalometer for timelapse and a maximum frame rate of 60 fps at 1080p for smooth slow motion.
In addition, mirrorless cameras use electronic viewfinders (EVFs) that are usable while you record video - EVFs also display important audio information and histograms that you don't get from a DSLR optical viewfinder.
The G7 is also resistant to moire (especially at 4K).
Uniquely in this category, it can also record for hours continuously at 1080p (DSLRs in this price class shut down after 30 minutes of continuous recording and have to be restarted).
Here is the video image quality the G7 can produce:
Ride: Horror Short Film by House By The Video Store (1080p)
COUPLES: Sara & Adam (Movie Night) by Chris Sturgeon (1080p)
Your Own Size - (Short Film) Panasonic G7 with Kit Lens by Spectrum The Originator (2160p)
Unfigured (2016) short movie - filmed with Panasonic G7 by AgnosLibertine (2160p)
LUMIX DMC-G7 Sample Video in 4K by Colin Witherill (2160p)
Stars by Tarik Dobbs (1080p)
SUMMER JACK // Making of by Luís Martino
CEZOН by Boroda Cinema
Zuzana (2016) by Antoan Pepelanov
AC x PD | The 964 by Project-Definition
AC x PD | The Hakotora by Project-Definition (shot with the kit lens)
Ferrari 360 modena F131 by sumizooN (4K)
Weekend by Albert Fast (4K)
Away From The City ~ Panasonic G7 [4K] 42.5mm F1.7
Panasonic Lumix G7 / G70 Launch - 4K - 4KPhoto Modes (shot in photo/video mode - each frame is an 8MP still photo) (2160p)
Fotograf Anna Ejemo (2160p)
Indianapolis 500 in 4K (2160p)
Voigtlander Nokton 10.5mm F0.95 Lens - Examples on a Panasonic G7 [4K]
Timelapse and Slow Motion
It's a pretty good still camera too: [link]
In my view, this is a much better camera for filmmaking than the T5i and the best still/video camera you can buy in your price range.
If you buy the G7, you might also want to subscribe over at /r/PanasonicG7 - lots of knowledgeable folks there who can help you get the most out of your new camera.
Hope this is helpful, good luck getting started and Happy New Year to you and yours!
It's the Cannon Rebel T5i EF-S here.
Thanks for the response. I was looking at a t5i on Amazon. [link]
i was also looking at this Nikon package, [link]
They were on black friday sales for $600 and $800 and I'm hoping they do a comparable sale for Boxing day. I've heard the quality of kit lenses aren't that great though, so maybe it's not the best way to go.
I'll keep reading reviews and try to hit Don's photo in the next couple weeks and see what they can do for me.
> Are there any similar alternatives?
Sadly, Twixtor and other frame interpolation methods are susceptible to motion blurring and artifacts - and 720/60p slow motion is clearly not HD. This will be apparent if you use it throughout a 6 minute video, as in your example.
If you want to shoot slow motion, you might want to look at an alternative to the T5i.
For 1080/60p slow motion that looks like this:
...you might want to consider a 1080/60p camera such as the $515 Panasonic G6 with the 14-42 kit lens instead of the 1080/30p $600 Canon T5i with the 18-55 [Referral Links].
In addition to a frame rate that is 2x higher, the G6 has a viewfinder that actually works while you are shooting video, a built-in intervalometer for timelapse, and the ability to record continuously for hours (instead of the T5i's 30 minutes).
Hope this is helpful and good luck with creating your slow motion effect!
It all depends on your budget. I'd really encourage getting a camera with interchangeable lenses such as the T3i or the T5i (you can get them used).
What type of mic are you after? Lav, camera mounted shotgun, boom?
A good budget lav is the Giant Squid lav. Budget camera mounted shotgun mic? Go for the Rode VideoMic Pro. XLR shotgun mics with boom mounts tend to cost a bit more.
Both of these mics will be able to be put directly into a cameras 3.5mm input, but the lav isn't designed for this, it's better to get an external recorder and sync it in post.
Basically it all comes down to your needs and budget. But I'd strongly recommend an interchangeable lens DSLR, as you will quickly outgrow a bridge camera.
If you want a decent sized pocket camera and you're going be using it for vlogging than that's the perfect camera for you. Looking at the camera is about 800 USD and for that price you can get a Canon T5 or T5i and decent lens for about the same price and you'll be able to take decent pictures.
Canon T5i w/ 18-5mm
Sony RX100 M3
Sony A6000 w/ 16-50mm