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I am a big fan of the simple rare earth magnet ones.
Simply finds the nails in the drywall quickly and usually there are enough to understand the pattern too.
Never fails me.
CH Hanson 03040 Magnetic Stud Finder [link]
I even got sick of my Zircon studfinder's flakiness so I sprung for a $8 magnetic one and I dig it. It does take a lil longer because you need to hit on a screw/metal, but I still grab it before my electric one.
EDIT: This is the one on Amazon, which is not where I purchased it (local HD for me), but same product and price.
I threw my normal stud finder out after I bought this magnetic stud finder.
Cheap and reliable.
That isn't true at all. I can get away with a simple magnet and just use it to find a sheetrock screw.
Look at this stud finder on amazon -
CH Hanson 03040 Magnetic Stud Finder
4.5 out of 5 stars with over 7,000 reviews and only costs $9.99. Thing doesn't even require batteries.
I would tell people the exact opposite of what you said. Don't waste $30-40 on a stud finder when a $9 one will work just as well.
Get one of these.
It's cheap and will stick slightly to the drywall screws. From there you can figure out your stud spacing and measure where necessary. Not sure how strongly it will stick for you as I use it on lathe and plaster, if you're not feel anything just running it across with your hand tie a string to it and watch where it lags slightly.
If you're intent on not purchasing a stud finder even a $10 magnetic one off amazon, then take your brightest lights & shine them at the ceiling. Look for anything uneven like raised circular spots from screws or seams--really any type of imperfect finishing work will help put you in the neighborhood you need to be to start closing in on finding the beams.
i wouldn't worry about drywall coming off the studs.. not even sure how this would happen.
game plan is sound. go for it. the only possible issue (and it's minor) is you could screw into an existing drywall screw, but the odds of this are almost 0. worst case is you screw 1/2" away.
but if you want to be absolutely sure, amazon sells these "stud-finders" that are just rare-earth magnets with a small level bubble. it finds studs by locating the drywall screws... nice little tool.
Here is what you need. Its $7.99 on Amazon and you just move it in a figure 8 motion on the wall until you feel it grab a nail. It’s so strong it will hang on the wall once you find one.
CH Hanson 03040 Magnetic Stud Finder
Adding to the commenters who have already suggested a magnet, I use this hanging from a string on my half-plaster-over-half-sheetrock 1940s walls, and would work similarly well on what you've got. It's just strong enough to catch the nail heads that are buried under 1/2" of plaster as I gently swing it and move it around.
Even the best of stud finders can give you false positives and inaccurate readings. Sometimes it could be due to the duct work, plumbing, wiring, etc. Use them as a guide, but confirm by using a strong magnet to find existing screws/nails that ensure that you're indeed dealing with the stud. This is the best $8 you'll ever spend: [link]
After trying many stupid bad electronic stud finders, I bought this one back in 2013 and it’s been the absolute best. Just a VERY strong magnet, with a little level. I love this thing for finding studs under drywall. If you have other metal in your walls like lath, your mileage may vary. I can’t test it because the only lath I have is behind tile, and this doesn’t stick there at all.
CH Hanson magnetic stud finder
I have this one. Nails are metal, and studs have nails. It works.
I was turned in to a the CH Hanson Magnetic Stud Finder from a buddy of mine and never looked back. It’s just a fancy magnet with a bubble level but it’s like $8 and hasn’t failed me yet. Highly, HIGHLY recommend.
Edit: here’s the link and as another guy said, just put a piece of painters tape on the bottom side so you don’t mark your walls.
Make sure you come at the stud from both left and right sides to try and find the center of it. Then use a small thin drill bit to drill a test hole to make sure you hit the stud.
Stud finders are weird sometimes. I use a magnetic stud finder that will find the screws used to fasten the drywall to the studs. I've had good luck with that one. Amazon link
Electronic stud finders are snake oil. Try a magnet instead [link]
Also, you can drill a hole towards the ceiling or floor with the smallest drill bit available to confirm a stud exists before drilling a big hole at eye level.
A Stud-4-Sure magnetic stud finder. In addition to an electronic stud finder this can be invaluable, esp. with thicker wall materials that the electronic one can't penetrate. Also, some short pieces of piano wire for probing. And a headlamp. And a compact cordless electric screwdriver for wall plates, recessed speakers, etc. I could go on...
I’m a huge fan of the magnet stud finders... not fancy by any means but it never fails me and the price point can’t be beat.
Why digital? I use this magnet made for finding studs. I feel like I can tell exactly what it's doing, and that I'm working with the raw information, not trying to decide lights and bars. It sticks... It's a nail, find a couple more to corroborate. Am I missing some benefit of digital?
I bought a magnetic stud finder. $7 on amazon! I hang the stud finder from a string and guide it along the wall and it will stick to the nails used to fasten the lathe to the studs.
What sort of stud finder are you using? I've found the electronic ones to be worse than useless. A magnetic stud finder takes a little getting used to, but is reliable.
Testing for a stud requires some experience. Don't be discouraged if you mess it up a few times. I've found drilling very small holes to be the easiest way to check for a stud. Drywall dust is white on the drill bit. If you hit a stud you'll see some wood sawdust on the drill bit.
As for anchors, just consider that no matter what the weight rating says, you're anchoring into drywall and drywall is weak. Keeping one side in a stud seems like a good plan here.
Edit: nevermind, I see the stud finder in your picture. Throw that POS away. It's more of a random noise generator than a stud finder. Get one of these: [link]
Think of it less as a stud finder and more of a device that allows you to find metal on the other side of your drywall. A long, solid magnetic pull is a pipe. A vertical line of magnetic dots is a stud.
Assuming you don't have any readily available, I keep this stuck to my fridge just in case a surprise hanging project pops up.
Might I suggest getting a magnetic stud finder. I have to locate studs quite often for work and I stopped using an electronic device years ago.
Basically you slide the magnet along the wall until you feel it grab onto a drywall screw. I always then move vertically and find at least 3-4 screws so I can figure the average of the stud. Granted this relies on the drywall installers to have been accurate with their screw placements, but so far I haven't had any misses using the 3-4 screw average method.
I purchased this guy .. but it wasn’t of much use to me.
I’m so terrified of not cutting in between the two studs and having a huge chunk missing. Do you have any specific videos to recommend?
Thank you so much for your help!
It looks like it.
I have one of these, it has been a life saver in a house with plaster and lath.
A mobile app will almost certainly be worse than any multiscanner tool you buy, but a strong magnet studfinder is pretty useful. This one is super strong and durable.
But I doubt any scanner is going to pick up wires. Worse case, you could make a big hole in your wall and stick a camera in to find out where the nearest studs are (I don't recommend this solution).
> I have heard Zircon
They make a ton, from cheap $10 models up to $100+ models. My cheap one is terrible. I borrowed a buddy's nice one and it's nice.
>never had good luck with electronic stud finders
Yeah, I agree. They're generally a waste of money. Not sure why OP is so anti-magnet. This is far-and-away the best stud finder I've ever used.
Wall stud detectors, at least the one I have, are Neodymium magnets in plastic frame. Great at finding nails in the wall and since I already have this one, no need to purchase one. Very useful.
How strong of a magnet are you using? If the plaster is thick, it needs to be very strong, and you need to watch very carefully (and hold it very loosely, or dangle it from a string.) I use one of these, and it just barely does it for my plaster walls, and it was a pain in the ass.
Also, are you finding multiple nails, and then connecting them vertically to find the stud? I found there was all kinds of random metal shit in my wall apparently, but the only clear vertical lines were studs. FWIW, there was not a stud by my outlet box either (I don't even wanna know how crazy the electric is in my apartment.)
The magnet ended up working for me, but next option was to remove the baseboard and see if that helped, and if not, drill little holes underneath till I found the stud. As long as you put the baseboard back on, there's no harm in it.
Thanks for the diagram, that's interesting.
This studfinder uses super strong magnets to detect the screws/nails, and actually sticks to them through the drywall. It's this thing. Seems to work great.. and that's the only spot it picks up any metal.
I've bought this magnet for myself and 5 family members. works amazing. use accordingly
source: i've remodeled an entire house using this simple magnet as a guide
If you want something real basic, I use one of these cheap magnetic ones: [link]
Obviously it only tells you where the screws are, but it has never let me down. You're not going to be able to tell where the exact stud center is (if they screwed off-center), but I've never ran into a problem. I usually find a few on a stud (generally in my house there is a screw about every 12-15") and use that line as my stud center.
> better luck with a magnet to find studs
This little guy is my go-to stud finder. The only electronic studfinder I've used that wasn't garbage was a $90 model. It was still only ok.
Assuming you had an inspection done you really don't have any tests to do as they all should already have been done. (Toxins in paint and such)
Locate your main water valve, main gas valve and meter, and breaker panel. Just so you know where they are. Open breaker panel, identify which breaker controls what. Hopefully they are marked.
Get a pair of bolt cutters. I've used mine many times for random jobs around the house. Speaking of tools, a basic $100 toolset comes in handy all the time and you'll never regret investing in a quality battery powered drill.
Change the code to the garage door opener.
Change locks on doors.
Take a lot of "before" pics. It's fun to look back and see how much your home has changed.
Look into rebates that are offered by your local utility companies ( electricity and gas). They'll usually give you free LED light bulbs, or great deals on random things like that. And where I live they'll even come out and do different audits for free to make sure things are running smoothly in your home.
Look into Sonic Internet in your area. I've heard good things about them lately.
Home improvement can quickly become overwhelming. Expect to get overwhelmed. Then expect to get inspired again.
Back to tools, get a quality stud finder. Not a hyped up beeping led one. Just a solid magnet one. Like this one. [link]
Before you attempt to fix something, always just check out a video or two on YouTube. They will point out things like why you should not over tighten the bolts on your toilet. (I learned that one the hard way). Since then I always try to watch a video before fixing something. They will usually point out safety things and other "gotchas" that you should be aware of.
Can't think of much else right now. Good luck and congrats!
If you need an idea for one of the cheaper things, might want to look at this: CH Hanson 03040 Magnetic Stud Finder [link]
It's a real basic but handy magnetic stud finder. Good stocking stuffer too.
I recommend using 3 1/2" 1/4" lag bolts and washers to bolt the 2x4's to the wall. Make sure to recess the bolt heads in the 2x4's slightly with a spade bit. To find the studs, use a stud finder; this is the best i have ever used [link]
Since 2x4's are 1.5" deep, I would get some 1/4" x 1 1/4" lag screws to bolt the safe to the 2x4's.
I have a magnetic stud finder. It has neodymium magnets, which are pretty strong. I am sure regular refrigerator type magnets will work, but maybe just not as well
I honestly didn't know about the iPhone app...that's pretty neat. However, I highly recommend buying one of these. I use it constantly and it works better than any electronic finder you'll find at the store.
>Two: Tried to hang a chain from my bookshelf to the ceiling because I already messed up trying to hang another support underneath the bookshelf and was trying to find an alternate solution. I ended up not having a screw large enough to secure the chain.
Shit if I considered every project where I needed to make a (or three or four) trips to the hardware store in the process a failure I'd never complete a damn thing.
>Three: I tried to mount a Monitor wall mount, but couldn't find the stud and gave up. Even with a stud finder.
Not sure if you have plaster/lathe or drywall, but I can attest to how well this unit works with drywall, I will never buy another: [link]
You need a studfinder. Fun to use, easy to store, and you will use it again and again. Plus, rare earth magnets. Worth the eight bucks.
I have this one: [link]
I like it a lot better than most electronic versions. Also, you could just buy the magnets and make one yourself.
Patience, padawan; I'm on my flight back as I type this!
You're going to want a second pair of hands regardless to hold stuff in place while you drill and tighten. I'm not sure what they mean by "two drywalls"; it sounds as though they layered it, but to my totally unprofessional self, that sounds silly.
16" apart ("on center" is the terminology used in construction) is standard for non-load-bearing studs, but you really can't trust it. Mine ended up ranging from 14" to 28" apart. Get a studfinder and mark them out; this one is super cheap, and works very well for metal studs.
Could you link me to or post an image of your mounting bracket? The primary reason I used plywood is that the bracket I got stupidly wasn't wide-enough to span even two studs. If you can hit at least two with yours, I'd say it's safe to forgo the plywood. That's true that the plywood is only visible from the side; unfortunately, my TV location causes that to be exposed (thanks, picky roommate >_>). If that's not a concern, I see no reason not to go ham and use the plywood.
The only potential issue with using 12 toggle bolts is that you'll have twice as many holes in the drywall to patch up when you eventually move out, but that's negligible.
I'm going to non-definitively say that there's no way your studs are 1" wide. That'd break compatibility with anything intended to use the standard size for wooden studs. But hey - finding the middle of a stud is what the studfinder's for!
Yeah, I was going to buy this stud finder: [link].
Hopefully it will get the job done. I tried knocking along the wall, but I couldn't hear any difference.
The weird part is that it definitely sticks (the magnetic stud finder) to the corners. Both concave corners (ie-the regular corners of a 4 sided room) and the convex corners (ie- like a hallway corner)....don't know if convex and concave are the proper terms.
So, it can find SOME nails through whatever material is on there. Just not ANYWHERE on the wall itself.
It's a magnet. Foolproof. Which I need because I've never had much luck with the electronic ones.
i second a magnet stud finder. no need for a $17 one though, there are quite a few that are $5-10 that work just as well...
even cheaper would be a neodymium magnet if you have any laying around from other projects. just glue something to it and make sure its brightly colored.
i have the one in the first link above, and i keep it magnet'd to my tool belt hammer loop. its great for holding screws and such for easy access.
I've never had an issue with the cheap rare earth magnet ones. Sticks to the wall when it finds a nail. [link]
You can pick one up on Amazon for $8. Or just walk into the Ace Hardware or True Value.
I would guarantee that there are studs. You are probably just not locating them properly. Get yourself a rare-earth magnet stud finder and find where the drywall is screwed in.
How do they attach the sheetrock to the old drywall? They still have to find stud and screw to that right? So if you use a magnet stud finder you should be able to find those screws and locate the stud that way. This is the one I use
I found this one. I think it’s what it’s talking about. It has a scan depth of 1 inch which I hope is enough.
Try this bad boy out: [link]
$8, no batteries and works every single time. Based on the simple principle that you can reliably wave that magnet on a wall to find the nails in studs.
Deal link: Amazon
Someone asked this last week. I keep one of these in my toolbox and it takes care of business 99% of the time..
I’ve had really good luck with a ch Hanson on a string, have old house with ~100 years of handyman fixes in it, lots of lathe & plaster, feel your pain.
99% of the time this is all I need.
The CH Hanson magnetic stud finder has been my go-to. Rare earth magnets should yield similar results.
Buy this and never have this problem again.
100%. I use this one.
The downside is that they only find nails (not electrical lines, etc), but that stuff doesn't work very well anyway IMO.
I second the rare earth magnet. [link]
This is the one I’ve used for years: [link] I’ve never had luck with the electronic ones.
Magnetic stud finders work by finding the screws used to attach the wall material (sheet rock or whatever) to the studs. They are inexpensive and work great!
These are better, IMO.
Use a magnet to find the screws. Smash that area with a hammer to expose the screw.
Any neodymium magnet will do if you have any laying around.
Here is a link to one that I have used for a few years. [link]
Magnet stud finder will never let you down.
I also have found this kind to be very reliable (mine is a different brand from Costco but looks the same).
https://www.amazon.com/CH-Hanson-03040-Magnetic-Finder/dp/B000IKK0OI/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BV7DM60SWBJ0&dchild=1&keywords=magnetic+stud+finder&qid=1597863401&sprefix=magnetic+stud%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-2 Get one of these stud finders. Its a magnet that will find screws or nails in studs.
Hello! I am a first year-teacher who will be teaching English! Though school will be starting off virtually, students with special needs may still come in-person for instruction. When I was student teaching, the teacher who supervised me had a hammock in her classroom which was awesome and students who had sensory sensitivities really enjoyed reading on the hammock!
I only have about five students with special needs throughout all my class periods and not all of them will be coming to class, but if they would like to read on the hammock, I want to give them that option! My brother is an avid outdoorsman so he shipped me some of his old hammocks and I now have about seven cloth and synthetic hammocks.
TLDR: I've never hammocked or touched a drill before so I'm lost. I've done some research and wanted to confirm some things and ask y'all questions
This is the video I watched
Materials I need according to the video
-Drill, courtesy of my dad
-Sharpie, I have many
-2 Heavy Duty Steel Eye-bolts Option 1, Option 2, Option 3
-Drill Bit, courtesy of dad
-2 Stainless Steel Carabiners
1) Someone in the comments said that you can only drill into wood studs and there are buildings with steel studs that shouldn't be drilled into. My classroom is in Texas. Are classrooms typically built with steel studs? I don't have the typical cement block classroom walls. They're firm but definitely not cement.
2) What size drill bit should I use? One of the commentators said that they use a 1/4" drill bit
3) A commentator said they use 3/8 eye bolts with a minimum of 2" threads. The guy in the video said the drill bit should be smaller than the eye bolt thread. What is an eye bolt tread?
4) Which eye bolt should I purchase? I linked some I found on Amazon in the materials section. Is there one you think would be better than the others? If you favor other stores, could you post a link? I'm trying to limit how much I go outside!
5) Should I go to Lowes, Harbor Freight, or Ace Hardware instead of shopping for these tools on Amazon?
6) Will this setup be able to withstand 300 pounds? I want to accommodate bigger students too!
Best one I've used.
Try a magnet. Itll hit on the nails or screws. Should give you a general indication of the studs.
Hmmmm, what about a magnetic stud finder? It would find the screws so you would be able to determine where to drill for the new Sheetrock.
I realize you are not in the USA but hopefully these links will help.
CH Hanson 03040 Magnetic Stud Finder
Learn more: [link]
>You would need a longer screw than what came with the curtain rod, 1.5" screws would be good. Then just screw directly onto the wood
To clarify, don't use the plastic anchor (or the screw for it; use wood screws). When you drill the stud, you want to use a smaller drill bit than the screw. This is called a "pilot hole", and makes it easier for the screw to go in, prevents it from seizing partway in, and prevents the stud from cracking (especially if you're hitting it on the edge).
Anywhere that you don't hit a stud, use the plastic anchors.
>The hole is about 1.5-2cm deep, which I think is kind of short...
Most common widths of drywall are 3/8th inch and 1/2 inch, so I'd guess it's 1.27 cm, but comes in a variety of widths including 5/8ths (1.59cm).
>Also, should I buy a stud finder just to make sure this is a stud and not something else?
You should buy a stud finder, but not for this project. Cheap ones are cheap, and you will need one sooner or later. If nothing else, the linked one will just stick to the wall, and every time you see it, gives you a sense of accomplishment in finding a stud to hang it on.
It's very unlikely you could hit anything other than stud or header near a window. No one in their right mind would put an electric line there, and even more crazy for a plumbing pipe.
Also - no offense if I over shoot your novice status - use a level.
I got this one and it's pretty great. Just swing it over a section of wall, you'll find any embedded screws in seconds.
Best one I've found. Don't think of it as a stud finder, think of it as a drywall screw / nail finder. You can tell from the feel of it whether it's a screw, and not a nail plate etc. It's got loops on the ends if you want to hang a plumb bob, and then having a magnet on a string is also useful to grab that whatever you dropped behind whatever.
I have a cheap Stanley electronic stud finder also, I think it's an older version of this one, but I use the magnet 10 to one over it. This one's got the screen that shows if the stud is to the left or right, helps you zero in on the center. I don't think I'd use one that just beeps.
I love my magnetic one.
I've used every fancy stud finder on the market, but they all pale in comparison to this lil' guy. Portable. Light. Accurate. Batteries not required.
This one, it's just magnetic and does not have adjustable electronic sensors.
Or a strong magnet would be less expensive. I have a "stud finder" that would work for less than $10
Same idea, but I bought this one.
Buy a stud finder that uses magnets rather than fancy electronics. I located all my joists with one of these. [link]
Edit: It's what I use.
Order one of these, they are very handy to have
Get one of these [link]
If you have plaster and lath then you will have the best luck with this. It will stick to the nail heads in the studs.
You will need to do some drywall repairing and painting.. if you want to fix it yourself.
Find the block with stud finder or something more like this that works 200% better...
Drill a hole on top of the fireblock... Fish the wire out.. then fish it back in on the other side of the fireblock.
Just use a magnet.
Which one is close? the no leg workbench or the 2 leg workbench?
These heavy duty shelf brackets hold up to 1200lb per pair. They're 21" deep, which should be enough. If the bench is particularly large or expected to hold a lot of weight, you can buy one for each stud. Sometimes I like overkill. If you need a stud finder, I recommend this one.
Confirmed - verified purchaser:
yep agreed, pick up one of these guys, too: [link]
I'm surprised no one linked to it already, or perhaps I just haven't seen it in the comments. But yeah, this is a thing
That's basically all my "stud finder" is.
[link] I've used this for years and will never use anything else again... yea it's just a magnet
This is what I use and it would definitely be strong enough to get through 2" of drywall.