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I own this one and am very happy with it. The stainless steel version is a bit cheaper. Of course if you're not in the US or Europe then the atomic time feature doesn't do you any good... Also, I just read that apparently getting rid of the radio time broadcast in the states is part of recently proposed budget cuts, so there's that to consider. You can still set the watch manually.
For durability I love this watch my wife gave me. I have since moved it from the metal bracelet to a nylon NATO strap as the clasp is a point of failure but the watch body is made of titanium and has a sapphire crystal face and is waterproof to 200m. Titanium doesn't react to chemicals the way that stainless steel does and is much more impact resistant which makes it resilient to being in salt water or coming into contact with acids. It does have the atomically controlled perpetual calendar as a feature but if the station in colorado goes down it's still a quite accurate quartz movement and is solar powered (I have gotten over 15 years and counting out of my last eco drive so I'm not worried about longevity).
I wear my Timex Expeditions around as beaters all the time. I have a Citizen Eco-Drive that I got as a graduation gift a few years ago, and that thing's been a tank.
My personal favorite quartz watches are the Citizen AT Series. I've been collecting a good amount of automatics lately, but I'll pick one of these up eventually. Just straight bang for your buck - that watch gives you a chronograph / tachymeter, perpetual calendar, alarm, radio-controlled time, sapphire crystal, and the Eco-Drive movement for under $500. What's not to love?
Amazon sells them for about 525.
Looks like here is better deal https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Eco-Drive-Perpetual-Timekeeping-AT4010-50E/dp/B005BS2ENC/ref=lp_19309464011_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1560176590&sr=1-1&nodeID=19309464011&psd=1
Hi All, thanks in advance for any advice.
I'm interested in something like the Citizen Eco Drive atomic clock chronograph watch (AT4010-50E), Amazon link here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BS2ENC/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Things I love:
solar powered, no battery issues. automatic time synchronization, day/date (and auto synchronization so no worries about leap years or February etc), nifty gadgets (like showing battery charge), chronograph/tachymeter. Good night luminosity. analog, something I can wear more casually or dressed up.
Things I like less:
-it seems so silly that to operate the chronograph, rather than pressing the upper function button, you have to move the crown to the chronograph position first and cycle through the different modes. In theory that's quick, but in practice (watching youtube video examples) it seems JUST cumbersome enough that it would make more sense to just pull out the ol' smartphone where I have a quick swipe without even having to unlock my phone and I can start a timer or stopwatch.
-I don't actually need a tachymeter, probably, since I can't remember the last time I was timing something that was exactly one "unit" long. Maybe if I have one, I'll find reasons to use it. To be honest, a "pulsometer" scale would make more sense since I do frequently need to check heart and respiratory rates
-setting the alarm: watching YT videos, again it seems like it takes a fair amount of time to set since the hour/minute hands for some reason move much more slowly to get into this position than when you are just setting the clock
Overall, I'm interested in a "gadgety" watch, but I don't need another device that needs to plug or charge or manually wind or re-set or anything like that and feel my smartphone probably functions better than a smart watch anyway.
My other main concern would be that I've got tiny wrists (between 6.5-7 inches), so I also want to make sure I'm not buying something so large that it looks cartoon-ish when wearing, and a lot of these nifty feature-rich watches can be on the bigger side (I love the idea of having one of those slide-rule watches, but I'm pretty sure wrist-size alone rules them out...). The linked Citizen watch is probably as large as I could go at 42mm (unless you think that's already on the larger side).
Basically, my question for you guys is if you have recommendations for similar types of watches that "improve" upon the things I "like less." Other "feature-rich" watches to compare against, in a similar price range (the above is around $300), with perhaps easier-to-use chronographs, perhaps slightly smaller face sizes, and the only other thing I didn't mention was something overall where it's still easy to tell the time. Thanks again!
Just following up. The AT4010-50E is on sale at Amazon for $244.
Citizen Men's Eco-Drive Titanium Perpetual Chrono Atomic Timekeeping Watch with Date, AT4010-50E
Timex makes some nice watches with some of their more expensive ones, but they're mostly quartz watches. You're likely to be recommended mechanical pieces here, which many enthusiasts prefer. Personally, I'd be looking at one of the Japanese "Big 3" (does anyone else actually call them that?) - Seiko, Citizen, and Orient.
Citizen makes a wide variety of great solar powered quartz watches. Personally I have this one which I bought for about $280 around 2 years ago and have worn nearly every day since. That's on the more expensive side for Citizen. If Timex design appeals to you you might like a Chandler.
Seiko is well known for the Seiko 5 line of automatic watches, many of which will run you < $100. Some of their nicer watches can also be had under or around your $300 price point - SKX, Samurai for divers, Presage for a dressy option. They have some solar and normal quartz options that are very affordable, but I've never paid any attention to them.
Orient may be the best bang for your buck. Just check out their web page here; prices right now for the holidays are close to as good as you can find anywhere else. A cautionary tale: I own a Sun and Moon v3 and it's gorgeous, but I'm on the 2nd one that I've had to either exchange or send in for warranty repair with the same issue. I know Orient has a pretty good reputation so I hope that I just got very unlucky. But, I would say to either buy direct from Orient or from Amazon, who is an authorized dealer, so that you have warranty.
Up for sale today is a Citizen PCAT, or Perpetual Calendar Atomic Titanium w/ Sapphire crystal.
Here is a link to the watch on Amazon for info about specs, sizing, etc.
This is a very cool, sharp looking watch that is packed with features.
The watch definitely has some regular usage wear on the titanium case + bracelet and on the bezel, which I tried to represent well in the photos. The sapphire crystal looks great to me, wasn't really able to find any flaws there.
The watch comes with whole original kit: boxes, manual, extra links for the bracelet, even hang tag and plastic that was originally on the watch (now off of the watch, of course).
$250 shipped USPS Priority Insured to CONUS via PayPal
Choose from any in this list: [link]
While keeping in mind that these watches sell for 50% what the MSRP on Citizen’s website says.
With those watches you will get a watch that will always be accurate, and always be running, and most have sapphire crystal
If I had to pick just one: [link]
GW-B5600BC-1B is not bad. It's more subdued than most other G-Shock watches, including the vintage models. I tend to dislike branding or writing on my clothes, I guess watches are not an exception. The thing that bothers me the most with G-Shock is all the writing. Yeah, I get it, it's shock resistant and resists water up to 200m, this button is start/stop and the other is mode. I don't need it to be written on the face.
Citizen Tough : doesn't really do it for me. I find the hands too chunky.
CASIO MDV106-1A : same as above. I also really dislike the "arrow" style hands.
Seiko SKX007K2 : same as above.
Victorinox INOX : I like this style better.
Orient Defender : not too bad, but the seconds arrow pisses me off. I like simple hands, like the seconds being just a line for instance.
Hamilton khaki field : doesn't really do it for me.
Seiko SNE331 : this is pretty good too. A higher quality verson of this kind of design would be pretty nice.
Citizen BM8180 : arrows :(
Another example of a watch I find pretty attractive is this one that was posted : [link]
The dial is busier, but it's (mostly) useful information. It also has a perpetual calendar and radio time calibration. My favourite colours are blue and grey, so all blue, all grey or a mix of blue and grey are winners in my eyes.
One other thing to keep in mind, I had a cheaper analog watch years and years ago, now lost, and my biggest trigger was the date. It wouldn't do 30 or 28-29 days months, so I had to manually adjust it each time. Common enough to be annoying, uncommon enough to skip your mind until you realize it and get annoyed. That's why I'm looking for something with a bit of tech in it.
I'm not a person who enjoys fiddling with things until they work. Don't want to adjust for DST, don't want to adjust calendar because it thinks February 31 is a thing, don't want to have to hold it with rubber gloves so it doesn't break. Changing the battery is tolerable since I won't have to do it often. I want something utilitarian, that keeps track of time, that does it well and reliably, and that looks good while doing it. As you noted, I want a tool more than a piece of jewelry, but there's no reason for tools not to look nice. Before I got my Leatherman, I used a simple knife to cut things like cable insulation, it was a Ferrum Forge Crux. Great steel, cut like hell, super easy to skin cables, but also looked awesome.
In resume, the points that came up in my exploration of the world of watches would be :
Thank you very much for your answer.
Does it matter if it's a fashion watch or not at that price point? It's up to you really. Some people wouldn't look twice at a $500 watch. Some people own 1 $500 watch and that's their watch for the next 5 years.
Out of those two I would advise against the HB, even if you don't care about fashion watches. You can get a much better quartz watch for that much in a similar style such as: One, two, three, four, and five, to name a few.
I've never owned a Tissot quartz, however I do know that Japanese quartz tends to be superior to Swiss quartz. Straps can be changed out, the particular style on that Tissot is called a Rally strap. Good luck in your decision!
[Citizen] I have a question that basically boils down to "how much is a Citizen warranty worth?" I'm looking to get their AT4010-50E. This can be had on brand new eBay for as low as $300, but they're obviously not an authorized retailer, so I wouldn't get Citizen's warranty. I can get the same watch on Amazon, which is an authorized retailer, for ~$550. So my question is, is a Citizen warranty worth $250? I'm thinking if something does go wrong, I could either get it repaired for <=$250, or just buy another one for $300.
MSRP is not an accurate measure of the value of a watch, and for quartz watches you can find some better watches at better prices - for instance this one is superior in almost any technical way.