{"product":{"product_id":"0892813113","title":"Combatting Cult Mind Control: The #1 Best-selling Guide to Protection, Rescue, and Recovery from Destructive Cults","price":"76.32","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/510WGUE4q+L._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0892813113"},"comments":[{"body":"Law 52 (in my list) : Create your own kingdom\r\n\r\n(Because no matter how hard you try, you will never have all your power playing someone else's game in some else's place).\r\n\r\nThis would have been rather obvious once upon a time, and civilization was built on this law, but the very fact it needs to be stated to a man is concerning.\r\n\r\nOk, no one's asking for a total disruption of modern civilization (it's kind of fucked up as it is), no one's telling you to be a poor team player either (cause no one can do everything in isolation), but a man must have an aspect of his life that he owns, in which he's king, and he pulls his load.\r\n\r\nModern society in that regard behaves like a cult - one defining feature of any destructive cult as per Steven Hassan (https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113/) - is that cults tend to reverse age fully functioning adults back into a childish state of dependency and validation (he calls it reverse aging, we know it as betaization) where they're enslaved to authority and can't think for themselves.\r\n\r\nA man is meant to come full circle from a boy.","subreddit_name":"TheRedPill","author":"SKRedPill"},{"body":"Start reading [Combatting Cult Mind Control](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0892813113) to learn more about how groups like the JWs manipulate their followers. It's a devastating organization and treacherous for the soul. Add in extra prayers and personal sacrifices for her. It's probably going to be a rough road. ","subreddit_name":"Catholicism","author":"Elvis_von_Fonz"},{"body":"I would recommend that you check out the concept of \"Love Bombing\" and how cults utilize this concept to manipulate and control their members.\r\n\r\nI would also recommend you read [Battling Mind Control](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113) by Steven Hassan to have a better understanding of the psychology of indoctrination and coercion.","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"Nah, people in evangelical cults are fun to mess with. Give this a read, might help\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=BSUALDJYJRE4\u0026amp;keywords=combatting+cult+mind+control%2C+steven+hassan\u0026amp;qid=1658980415\u0026amp;sprefix=combatting+%2Caps%2C161\u0026amp;sr=8-1","subreddit_name":"thedavidpakmanshow","author":"adwilix"},{"body":"As some one who despises Nazis I’m surprised to feel the need to do a book burning after seeing that picture.\r\n\r\nBurn down the pathetic little collection and replace it with [this](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113).","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"Illustrious_Ad8149"},{"body":"Yup!  Read the book called \"[Combatting Cult Mind Control](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113)\" by steve Hassan.  Its a fascinating read and although written about his experience in the Moonie cult it gives you insight into how cults work whether religious, secular, political or any other, the methods the leaders use to control, the logic they employ and how they manipulate people are all the same.  It is SPOT ON how trump speaks to his base and the methods he uses to distort the truth","subreddit_name":"politics","author":"YoureSparePartsBud"},{"body":"1.  What Popoff is doing is completely legal under our current laws and is not a crime.  Give up on that part of it - you won't be able to hurt Popoff and you'll be wasting your energy.\r\n\r\n2.  Focus on your Dad instead.  You have a tough situation because it is ultimately HIS money and he can do what he wants with it (just don't ever give him monetary assistance and such while he's wasting it like this).  Even though he's not really in a cult (or at least it's debatable), I'd suggest picking up the book 'Combatting Cult Mind Control', because there's some great advice in there about how you deal with someone who is in a cult and work towards getting them out.  So far you've been confrontational and that is just going to drive him farther away from you and reinforce his idea that Popoff is helping him.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113/ref=sr_1_2?s=books\u0026amp;ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1441985198\u0026amp;sr=1-2\u0026amp;keywords=combatting+cult+mind+control\r\n\r\nGood luck.","subreddit_name":"Christianity","author":"Comassion"},{"body":"\u0026gt; I don't want to seek a \"doctor\" for help because quite frankly they may think i am crazy.\r\n\r\nWhether or not you seek professional help is up to you, but they WILL NOT think you're crazy.\r\n\r\nFirst of all, much of what you describe is common to all victims of abuse. The fact that the abuse we suffer is because of a religious cult doesn't make us more crazy than other abuse victims.\r\n\r\nI know a thing or two about true \"crazy\". You're young, inexperienced, and have no idea, but you are not \"crazy\". You are trying to cope with the hand you've been dealt, but there's no reason you have to deal with this alone and thinking \"it's only you\". \r\n\r\nYou can have help. You are entitled to help. It's not a personal failure to seek counseling. It doesn't mean you are crazy. It doesn't mean you need medication (nothing wrong with that if you do). It just means your lousy family and upbringing didn't prepare you for life with the proper emotional groundwork. The failure is *theirs*. \r\n\r\nThink about it like this - your parents sold you a defective car. You aren't crazy if you take it to a professional for repair. And trust me, mechanics have seen *all kinds* of fucked up shit that you wouldn't even *believe*. \r\n\r\nBut even if you don't seek counseling, please continue to share your feelings and rants here. Determine to learn how to help yourself. I can't point you exactly in the right section, but read up on subjects that you think might help you. Maybe [Combatting Cult Mind Control](http://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113) as many have suggested. But whatever you do, learn, get perspective, and don't be afraid to grow and address your problems.","subreddit_name":"exjw","author":"ballookey"},{"body":"Absolutely.\r\n\r\n\u0026amp;#x200B;\r\n\r\nSo in order to understand from a psychological point of view of what happened at SCJ, I would strongly recommend you read:  \r\n[https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113)  \r\n\r\n\r\nThe same author, Steven Hassan, escaped the Moonies cult in the 70's, and dedicated his life to the psychology behind mind control, and came up with his \"BITE\" control model:\r\n\r\n[https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/](https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/)\r\n\r\nBelow is a post that I made about how the BITE control model maps onto even their introductory center class.\r\n\r\nSCJ is a high control group that uses high amounts of deception and systematic spiritual abuse to propagate its teachings.\r  \r\n\r  \r\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_Pvpd6wCeM4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pvpd6wCeM4)\r\n\r\nAbove is a good URL that explains the BITE control model.\r  \r\n\r  \r\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCKoTlGe-c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCKoTlGe-c)\r\n\r\n\r  \r\n\rAbove is a good video that describes \"spiritual abuse\".\r  \r\n\r  \r\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqpHI93SHk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqpHI93SHk)\r\n\r\n\r  \r\n\rLastly, above is Steven Hassan and SCJ.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nThe thing with SCJ, is that its actually pretty easy to map the BITE control model and the Asch Conformity test with the introductory center classes alone.\r\n\r\nYou can read more about it here:\r\n\r\n[https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html](https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html)\r\n\r\n\r  \r\n\rFor example:\r  \r\n\r  \r\nIsolating the \"fruit\" with leaves who then report on the \"progress\" of the fruits, including private conversations, etc. essentially making them spies.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nSystematically lying to the leaves about the identity and who are new to the class\r  \r\n\r  \r\nSystematically controlling information (ie: Don't google or do research on us! etc.)\r  \r\n\r  \r\nUsing heavy amounts of deception for recruitment (from the first interaction of only doing a survey, to then only doing an innocent bible study once a week, to a class a few days week, to a \"church\" that gradually elevates to multiple days a week).\r  \r\n\r  \r\nGradually keeping the fruit more and more busy that one doesn't have time to think critically about the Bible study. This idea is also reinforced since secrecy is heavily used, and the students are strongly encouraged to not share with parents or friends about the details of the Bible study, and in some cases are encouraged to lie.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou can tell a lot about an organization by their actions alone.\r\n\r\nSCJ also does a lot of \"phobia\" implanting, always making the claim that the end is just around the corner, and that if you leave then you will essentially burn in hell and you have no chance of atonement.","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"Your post was removed by Reddit probably because it was a URL shortner website for Amazon with a referral code. The actual link without a code is https://www.amazon.com/dp/0892813113/","subreddit_name":"Gangstalking","author":"triscuitzop"},{"body":"\u0026gt;I am just asking for advice on whether I should leave right now or bear a little more just for the sake of completing the courses before leaving.\r\n\r\nI suggest leaving, as the longer you stay, the more and more time will be consumed, and the harder it will be to leave.\r\n\r\nYou have to remember, that this group is another high control group and that they have their hooks in you, whether it's the emotional / time investment (known as a sunken cost fallacy), or the soon-to-be love bombing that will happen once you \"pass over\".\r\n\r\nThis group is also well known for simply being good at manipulation, especially with their \"leaf\" and \"fruit\" pairing that exemplifies the [Asch Conformity Test](https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html).\r\n\r\nThere's a more detailed analysis of how these groups operate and manipulate their members through the [BITE model](https://freedomofmind.com/shincheonji-cult/), [long history of lying and deception](https://truthaboutshincheonji.com/2021/12/10/a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/), and other forms of basic indoctrination that you can learn about through the book:  \r\n\"Combatting Mind Control\"  \r\n[https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113)","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"I would recommend that you read the following:  \r\n\r\n\r\n* [https://freedomofmind.com/shincheonji-cult/](https://freedomofmind.com/shincheonji-cult/)\r\n* [https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113)\r\n\r\nYou can make the argument that every religion is a cult, sure, then it begs the question of when does any religion or belief system becomes more about control, and less about individuality.\r\n\r\nAny religion has its extremes.","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0WxOE3bUh8) does a good job at explaining some of the issues with SCJ from a more secular point of view.\r\n\r\nUnfortantely, SCJ has a long history of using deception and coercion to effectively manipulate and control their members, and you can see more examples of SCJ using such tactics to recruit [here](https://truthaboutshincheonji.com/2021/12/10/a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/).\r\n\r\nAnother thing to keep in mind, when the subject matter expert on cults calls SCJ a [high control group](https://freedomofmind.com/shincheonji-cult/), then you definitely have something to be concerned about.\r\n\r\nOne can make the argument that all religions are cults, so, when evaluating a group, one needs to look at a spectrum of just how much manipulation and undue influence a group exerts on a person when making a decision on whether or not a belief set is healthy or unhealthy, and you can read more about this spectrum [here](https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/).\r\n\r\nThe biggest differentiator a healthy religion and an unhealthy religion would be its emphasis on deception. SCJ still heavily uses deception to propagate, and some examples include:\r\n\r\n* How they still own and mantain the ex-members [website](https://exshincheonji.com)\r\n* How they offer free bible studies using front groups that are still [active today](https://www.ziontheologicalseminary.org/).\r\n\r\nThere are plenty of testimonies on YouTube with former members who go into detail about what they have experienced, and I would recommend [SCJ Skeptic's YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/c/ShincheonjiSkeptic), as he goes into detail about problems with SCJ's doctrines and falsehoods.\r\n\r\nNow, as for your friend, I would recommend before confronting him about this, read up on what and how \"mind control\" works \"[Combatting Cult Mind Control](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113)\"  just so that you can have an idea of what he or she went through.\r\n\r\nThen afterwards, the best thing for you to do is to be there for your friend. SCJ will continue consuming more and more time of your friend's life, so being there for them to remind him / her what life was like before the cult is crucial to eventually help them wake up.\r\n\r\nAs for the source material that counters SCJ and has helped many, there's a pinned post that uses Man Hee Lee's own words against him that disproves SCJ.","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"As for the psychology behind cults and how they eventually manipulate and control their members, I would suggest that you look into the [BITE model.](https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/)\r\n\r\nEssentially, the more boxes that a \"faith\" checks off, the higher the probability of the faith being a cult, or a \"high control group\".\r\n\r\nI would also recommend that you read or listen to the book [\"Battling Mind Control\"](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113) to also have an understanding of what your ex-boyfriend is going through.\r\n\r\nTo compare how Shincheonji ranks against the BITE model, I would ask the man himself as he has also made a post about the sect [here](https://freedomofmind.com/shincheonji-cult/).","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"},{"body":"Hello, as you already have pointed out, the verse in Romans 3:7-8 clearly condemns the action of lying.\r\n\r\nI've posted it before, and I'll post it again, [here are more examples of SCJ using deception to recruit.](https://truthaboutshincheonji.com/2021/12/10/a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/)\r\n\r\nAsk yourself this question: if this \"church\" was willing to lie and use deception during the initial stages of recruitment, how do you know for sure that they aren't lying about other factors and doctrines?\r\n\r\nOn other topics in this sub-reddit, it is clear that the doctrines and fulfillment of prophecy can change at any moment, and there are many testimonies that clearly indicate that the doctrines of SCJ have been changed, verified against MHL's own physical fulfillment book ([here are the recent Revelation 7 changes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNUJA3o5Co\u0026amp;t=1400s))\r\n\r\nThe choice is yours, but I would look into [Steven Hassan's mind control book](https://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2JD5TL9B53B6K\u0026amp;keywords=steven+hassan+mind+control\u0026amp;qid=1640196652\u0026amp;sprefix=steven+hassan+mind+control%2Caps%2C154\u0026amp;sr=8-2) to be aware of the psychology high control groups use against their members.","subreddit_name":"Shincheonji","author":"QuestionsAboutSCJ"}]}