what do you consider cheap?
Water cooling definitely isn't required, it doesn't actually do a better job of cooling unless you're doing crazy overclocking. I think a lot of people do liquid cooling because they like the way it looks and they hate noise. You can do it if you want, just be aware that it adds complexity and doesn't actually help performance for most people.
But to answer your question, the stock Wraith cooler that comes with a Ryzen 5 3600 works fine if you're not doing hardcore workloads or overclocking. I would just go with the stock cooler and pay attention to your temperatures. Then upgrade to something like a Hyper 212 or similar if you think it's necessary.
Read my post and what I say about Aio coolers. Typically I wouldn't recommend building a custom loop if you're new to pc's. Even aio coolers aren't needed for the average gamer. This is one of the most commonly used aftermarket air coolers, with almost 8k amazon reviews, you know there's something right about it. Something like this would be ideal for a new pc builder.
That is rather hot, and it's likely your CPU is throttling itself in order to prevent overheating. You only really have 2 choices if you want to decrease your temperatures.
Well, a great budget CPU cooler is the Cooler master hyper 212 Evo, it does a great job for its price but its a couple of bucks out of your budget. I think that its worth the extra money (It's around 47 - 53 CAD depending on which one you get, they're all the same but it's just for aesthetics).
Replace your fan. I never heard of PCS, but what I am seeing from a quick search is that the consensus is they are trash. Even a relatively cheap cooler master should be an upgrade.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=vhtrev-20&th=1
If you are ripping hard a water cooling setup may even be worth it.
Even if it only has 80-90% performance of a NH-D15, $43 is stupid cheap.
Meanwhile Cooler Master is selling their Hyper 212 Evo for $44, which is slightly less than half the weight of a FS140: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
Yeah just grab any average Aftermarket CPU Cooler, it'll come with a better fan and do a much better job at temps then the stock fan and cooler.
Even something as simple and cheap as this will be 10x better then what you've got
Are you still around???
Should I cancel that for this one instead??
Honestly if its a real concern I'd pick up a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo (Price is in Canadian, sure you can still find it local anyway)
yeah i adjusted it not long ago and helped keep it going. Ordered another one tho hoping that helps it just incase it dies on me lol plus had a weird issue happen after putting everything back together after i cleaned it. Its resolved but something weird happened so my motherboard has built in Bluetooth and came with a wi-fi signal booster. SO like i connected my ethernet cord to the motherboard and forgot to connect the wi-fi booster. Okay back to the weird issue so my xbox one controller was working fine before the fan issue. I try playing a game and like the controller keeps disconnecting. Weirdly enough after reattaching the wi-fi booster to my motherboard it also fixed my controllers Bluetooth connection. Any way's so here's the cooler i got. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This Cooler Master CPU fan, seems like I'm missing the mounting bracket. I'm going to purchase a new one, as per Q&A of the product on the Amazon web page, it should come with the mounting bracket.
I got a Hyper 212 for my 5600 CPU and it dropped the temps by ~20 °C from low to mid 80's under load (which is within factory specs) to low to mid 60's under load.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/
This supports your LGA1151 CPU socket. Heat will definitely slow a pc down fast. A SSD is highly recommended as well though. Even if your HDD is 7200 rpms and not 5400 rpms, a standard SSD is 5 times faster. Don't let other people shit on what you have, my buddy recently tasked me with reviving a laptop that was built in 2009. He didn't want a new one. I upgraded the ram from 2GB to 4GB and replaced the dead 250GB 7200 HDD with a 500GB SSD and let me tell you that laptop is the fastest Vista pc I've ever seen. It loads windows in 20-30 seconds.
I use this and it works fantastic with my 9900k.
this is more than enough, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler
Nope nevermind, it is not. It has compatability with Intel: LGA 2011, 1366, 1151, 1150, 1155, 1156, AMD: FM2+, FM2, FM1, AM3+, AM3, AM2+, AM2, AM1, AM4 from Amazon
1 - mid tower atx 2 - overclocking is not important 3 - i was just going to get something like this https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1607008390&sr=8-4 unless thats not good enough? 4 - budget is 300 max for the motherboard because the most expensive one i saw was about 280 5 - im not sure if i even understand the question here enought to answer (sorry for being stupid)
Are you just mainly going to be using it for gaming? If so I would stick to the ryzen 5 rather than the 7. You can use the same fan but if your new cpu comes with a fan I would swap to the new one. Honestly I would buy a decent aftermarket fan rather than use the stock one. They're cheap so there's no reason not to really. This one works great https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_u4.XFbX6ZY6R7
That's probably why it's crashing then, it'll be that the cpu is getting too hot and then it'll do a thermal shutdown to prevent it from damaging the cpu. I would recommend looking online and buying a cooler that is compatible with your socket which should be socket 1151 according to google. Something like this would do the job just fine.
Assuming you're not going to overclock it, the only tangible benefits to a different cooler is lower temps and therefore a quieter fan. That could also improve performance as well by a few games at least! And honestly even something as simple as this will give you drastically better temps and noise levels. Some people have seen their temps drop by 20 degrees with that little thing at CPU idle.
TLDR? The stock cooler is just fine. Upgrade if you want lower temps and lower fan noise levels, or if you plan to overclock.
It is, thank you! My confusion is that I'm not sure if AM3 refers to the configuration of the holes in the actual MOBO or the actual plastic socket in the MOBO's holes. For example this other fan says AM3 compatible https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1F93VZNVSGL29&psc=1, and I'm sure it would fit if I could remove the plastic socket from my MOBO, but since it has plastic rivets instead of screws I don't have a way to remove it.
Noctua makes amazing coolers, look at the rest of their lineup. As long as it's not a slim cooler (really tiny Pcs) you should be fine with anything compatible with your processor. Cooler master has the hyper 212 evo which is one of the 10 best air coolers out there, and only like $35
Try this. I have a similar cooler with an APU of the same wattage. I tend to run 10c higher than ambient at idle and only 20ish higher than ambient at full load. I use Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler w/ 4 Continuous Direct Contact Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7a4lFbY7W4HR2
This is the old reliable as far as cpu coolers go and it's easy to buy another hyper 212 led red led fan for cheap to get dual fans i still run the evo with my i5 9600k over clocked and does me well never goes above 65 degrees even when playing cpu demanding games with 80 percent cpu usage and above like far cry 5 or red dead redemption 2 or assassins creed odyssey. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=hyper+212+evo&qid=1596902384&sprefix=hyper+212+&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQk5IWEtCNjJFR...
That's definitely a bit better. Take your time though. Make sure you look into all this stuff because that first build was a little off. This is the cooler he was talking about - Hyper 212 Evo. Also, look into an m.2 NVMe SSD. They're overall better than standard 2.5" SATA drives and are roughly the same price if maybe a little more.
I just had a similar issue with my Ryzen 2600x and the stock cooler. I bought a coolermaster hyper 212 evo and my temps went down ~20°. The cooler itself is only $35 on amazon.
Sorry to hear that. I don’t do liquid cooling in personal builds for that exact reason. I’m glad it’s just the pump, and not a leak. The coolermaster 212 is an inexpensive, quality air cooler. If budget is really tight, I saw Amazon renewed of the 212 for $27.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler w/ 4 Continuous Direct Contact Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_l3eGEbMXBF1GG
Your build looks pretty good to me! Dont have to worry about bottlenecks and that 3600 mhz is gonna be utilized well by your 3rd gen ryzen. For overclocking, with the stock cooler from AMD, you can do a lil' bit of overclocking, not sure by how much tho. but let us say you want it set on 4.2 ghz max boost, with that extra 40-50 bucks, you can have a decent air cooler like the hyper 212 evo from cooler master.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
This one. Will it still work?
Edit: I’m seeing now I don’t think the version I have has AM4 compatibility out of the box. Though the Ryzen comes with a cooler, no?
yeah sorry bro, that is a nice cooler, should be doing the job. the only place you could go from there is an AIO but those cost. i hv a Hyper 212 Evo https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI. check if you are Current Limit Throttling in windows. you may have just reached a roof:(
Hi guys, I'm looking to upgrade my stock CPU cooler to an aftermarket air cooler and wanted some advice on which ones I should consider. It's on a 1155 socket, cooling a 3570k i5 (it's an older cpu). I helped a buddy build a pc and he grabbed a coolermaster evo 212, I didn't like the design of the mount when we put it on and wanted something a bit more sturdy.
TL:DR what's a good aftermarket air cooler?
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Edit 1: after looking it up my buddy had a Gammaxx 400 (which doesn't use a backplate to mount). The Evo 212 looks WAY better than my initial thoughts were towards it.
I haven't done it before so I might be too scared to. But for $35, I could get the CM 212 EVO and over clock?
Those temps are just fine for the most part. The stock cooler for that CPU can struggle to keep up under prolonged load. I might suggest a cheap aftermarket cooler like this one. I try to keep my temps below 50c under load. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?adgrpid=64509648188&hvadid=274710499424&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9010844&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10975849261223063634&am...
Awesome! Yeah its not a terrible system, and works well for my modeling. Prob 2-3 years old now for Mobo/CPU. I made sure to get Cool Master when i upgraded last time, and seem to be working great. Ill find someone to check my temps when rendering. Yeah like i said, I wasnt too sure if its common or not so good to know.
Personally this is what I use for my i5 6600K.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (RR-212E-20PK-R2) CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TO-GCb9TZ3V05
I have it overclocked to 4.2 GhZ and have never had an issue with overheating. It's pretty easy to install but make sure you buy thermal paste and thermal paste remover to clean the CPU before installing the new cooler.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo gets lots of love for $32.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
I only listed the ones I've used myself.
The all in one coolers require no service and run in a closed loop.
No problem. :-)
Yeah I'm gonna agree with u/ZacXme on this. Go to a 2000 series ryzen(2600 is an excellent cpu) with a b450 mother board. Drop one of the ram kits as 32 gb is overkill for a gaming/media pc. And unless you're goingbto be overclocking your system stick with an air cooler, something like the old reliable Hyper 212 Evo or something similar will be perfectly reasonable.
I use the <strong>Cooler</strong> Master Hyper 212 EVO. Idles around 35C-45C and monster hunter world brings it up to around 60C-70C.
Also I use windows balanced and lowered the minimum processor state to 5% (for whatever reason the AMD power plan has a really high minimum processor state that raises idle temps to the 50s)
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Ah, you can buy one from a third party such as Amazon or Newegg. It does beat the stock cooler. I can't argue that. It's not as much as you might think. Especially with an 8 core chip. But it is better.
I have an AIO cooler with a pump that's on its way out, so I'm looking for a temporary replacement until I upgrade my PC. The top suggestion on PCPP is the Hyper 212 EVO and has a reasonable price. Any reason this wouldn't be a good choice?
Relevant specs:
Your described issue is not lag, that is FPS.
Your specs seems pretty good, I think the only thing I would do is get a good CPU cooler (CM 212 for exemple) and overclock your i7 to at least 4 GHz.
Use a TV instead of a monitor changes very little for GW2, most TVs reach 60 Hz and no matter how good your PC is, you won't maintain a stable 60 FPS.
Those temps are way too high, regardless of your apartment temp.
Have you cleaned your computer lately? Get one of those compressed air cans and open it up. Spray all the dust out of the fans.
Make sure the fan on the cpu actually runs, if it does, check that the heatsink is actually set properly.the heatsink is the metal thing on top of the cpu.
Is it a desktop? Laptop? If it is a desktop i would suggest a new heatsink if all else fails, something like this.
NOTE: if you decide to buy a new heatsink make sure it will fit. (ie. Look up your CPU's Socket and make sure its compatible, then see how much vertical space you have in the case). The one listed below Barely fits in the mid tower case i have
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_maClBb821782W
In my opinion you should save up for an AIO or custom loop, if you really want it you can buy a 212 EVO, but if you're not thermal throttling and it is not too noisy, you shouldn't buy it.
I have no clue what to look for in a good cooler (ie how I would know if it will be better than the one the cpu came with). I assume I look at the RPM of the fan and the decibel levels?
This one is highly rated and is compatible with my build on pcpicker. What think?
That was my next go to as well. Unfortunately I don't have a spare and moved to a place where I know nobody, but there is good old amazon I suppose.
Is the Cooler Master 212 Evo still a good bang for your buck heatsink?
I've got this cooler currently https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=pe_385040_215884960_pd_te_s_bx_im/151-1189445-5297744
I've not seen temps go over about 80 - 85 degrees so I don't think it's throttling at this point.
I may just give a Windows reinstall a shot but it doesn't seem like that would fix anything.
How would I tell if it's the newer 212 evo? I'm looking at the one on Amazon since I have a gift card.
This one:
I would just stick with this guy, I would verify if it is compatible with Coffee Lake Intel chips.
Currently I'm using a pair of older Sony monitors, but will be upgrading to a pair of 1080p in the near future, just need to find a good deal. I don't really do much on my computer besides gaming. My laptop is what I use for school work.
Also, you mention a cooler, but I have an Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO from my last build that should work with the upgrades.
Why not? It's the K-series chip which means it's unlocked for overclocking.
If it's because of thermal issues, then the a new cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo ($30 on Amazon) would be sufficient for some overclocking.
If it's because of the motherboard not supporting it, then I'm sorry for you for buying (or otherwise acquiring) the k-series chip (which is usually a not-insignificant amount more than the locked chip) and a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking.
However, a motherboard upgrade is not too expensive, you can get a LGA1150 (the number of pins in the socket for your processor) Z97 chipset (the type of model of motherboard that allows overclocking) for between $30 and $50 on ebay.
These older Haswell (i3/i5/i7 4XXX) processors hold up pretty well today, and overclocking them shows a decent gain in performance.
I wouldn't change the CPU, its possibly fine. CPUs can handle a fair bit of abuse. And trying to buy another 4790k is imho a waste of money.
What I would do is run some sort of stress test (AIDA64 or OCCT are my preferences) and check the CPU temps while it runs. First you need to confirm that the cpu is the problem. It does sound like maybe your cpu fan is defective.
So after testing youll possibly see your cpu temps getting super hot (90+ degrees C). I'd buy a quality cooler like this: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511671384&sr=8-2&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+x
Now best case scenario your temps drop a tonne and your cpu runs perfectly.
Worst case scenario your cpu is still running hot because its been permanently damaged. But at least the cpu fan is still usable in your next build. So no $ wasted.
Is there anything I should look for in particular when replacing the CPU cooling fan (also, I'm pretty sure this has an actual name but it's not coming to me)? I have an i5 that I purchased like 7-8 years ago and just used the stock fan which has now cracked.
If I just purchase something like the most popular on Amazon, is it likely to be an adequate replacement? I don't do anything particularly CPU intensive with just the occasional gaming or photo/video editing.
Alright I am just going to buy a new heatsink since I will be pulling everything off anyways. I am pretty sure the Corsair cooling unit is not working because when I touch the tubes they are warm.
Would this heatsink be enough and would it fit my CPU? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Both CPUs have the same TDP, I would expect the same temp from both. I have the 7700k, and am using the Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212, it stays well within optimal operating range. It's also cheaper than the one you picked out.
This is my go to for a full size chassis: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1494563000&sr=1-1&keywords=coolermaster+212
It's one of the cheaper large coolers you can find, but its very quiet. Even with the fan at only a few hundred RPM the CPU stays nice and cool. It's noisier than some when the fan really spools up but that doesn't happen often. Really only if I'm encoding video or some other particularly strenuous task.
Thanks for your awnser! Is a cooler master a good idea? I would rather having a good one so I'm sure I'm not having heating problems. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 I'm not planning on overclocking :).
Definitely go aftermarket on the CPU cooler. Most stock CPU coolers perform poorly and are generally pretty loud. Highly recommend the Hyper 212 Evo (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493347861&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212+evo) Only $25 on amazon and it works great for the price. Only downside is that installation is a bit tricky, and the manual included is no help. Just watch a Youtube tutorial or two and you'll be fine.
From what store do you intend to buy? Be 'careful' with Cooler Master Hyper 212 because the most version in Europe are EU version that have a weaker fan. The model similar from US is RR-212E-20PK-R2 you can find it on amazon.co.uk but the most EU version are RR-212E-16PK-R1 which have a lower rpm (1800rpm max) and the airflow around 20CFM lower. I am also making a build for myself and I think I will get the EU version because I don't have the other option.
Also 16GB of RAM will suffice, you don't need 32GB.
No, the 4690k is fine... for now. As another poster below said, an OC wouldn't hurt, but do so at your own risk. My 3570k clocked to 4.5ghz with NO changes to voltage, and YMMV. I also have a Hyper 212 Evo cooler, which costs around $30 on Amazon.
A few ideas that come to mind:
Yep, my bad I meant the i5-7600k; that's good for me though, I can save a few pennies by sticking to the i5 vs the i7. Also good to hear I can use my copy of Windows, I always heard for a new CPU you needed a new license, so I'll have to look into how that process works.
When I do make this upgrade and I may look into overclocking a bit, would a cooler like this work or do I need to look into something more high end?
Unless you're dead set on a liquid CPU cooler, a standard fan cooler will do just fine for your i5. The Hyper 212 Evo is half the price and a very dependable cooler. It'll definitely fit in that full size ATX case. That'll cut $30 off your price.
Is there a reason you're going micro-atx when you're building in a full size case?
Motherboard reports 30C almost constantly, CPU idles around 30-40C.
Also, I found a CPU cooler that is similar to what I'm using: link.
I ran my 2500k at 4.2, but the temp gets up to 85-89C which is a little higher than I'm comfortable with, so that is why I am currently running it at 4.1. At 4.4 my system becomes unstable. I'm also just using the stock heat sink so I'm sure that is holding back my OC efforts. What heat sink are you using with your 2500k, and how much of a difference did it make going from 4.2 to 4.5? Thinking about upgrading to this heat sink https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_11?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER, but I'm also think I might just upgrade my CPU, mobo, and ram in the next 6-12 months so it might not worth it to bother buying and install a new heat sink on my 2500k if a boost of 0.3 or 0.4 GHz isn't going to make much of a difference.
Probably your CPU. Have you considered replacing the cooler? The CPU cooler for the AMD FX series CPUs is not very good. It generates a lot of noise and doesn't cool the CPU very well. I suggest something like the this:https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486646840&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+212+evo
Also make sure you have proper airflow through your case. You said you have one fan, but you may want to put a few more in. Make sure the case is pulling air in through the front and pushing it out the top and back.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Probably the worst thing to install without access to a youtube instructional video.... It took me about 35 minutes to get the stand square and fastened properly, but totally worth it. I forget if there thermal paste came from the cooler or the processor itself, but somehow made a mess with that too in the beginning....
nope, as long as you have decent airflow in your case you'll be good to moderately oc your stuff. your gpu shoud have no problems. cpu on the other hand if you have a stock cooler may need a cooler upgrade to do well but those can be got cheap. https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Just use HWMonitor (dl and install it) to monitor your temps and you'll be fine. For cpu overclocking if you aren't comfortable using the bios you can download intel XTU and do it from inside windows.
If you want to get the max oc on your cpu you might want some kind of cooler like the H100i but that's not necessary.
I would suggest liquid, however if you'd rather not use liquid, I would reccomend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. It is a very good and reliable heatsink that is decently priced. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.e7AybAD6FX9C
ooo... Are you oc'ing? I wouldn't suggest spending the extra on a liquid cooler especially with that cpu... unless you plan on oc'ing. My cpu runs at low temps on a 30 dollar coller master (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484883390&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master) and it only costs ~$34
Forgot to mention my cooler is a 212 evo, will it be sufficient for the new cpu? Also, what cpu/mobo am I aiming for? (apologies if this leans too much towards spoonfeeding)
stock cpu cooler might be able to handle a modest overclock but if you had the extra cash and wanted to be positive the cpu would stay cool then id say scoop a 212 evo as well
I have a 2500k @ 4.4ghz going for years now with an older version of this: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
I'm not one to give advice on overclocking, but I just increased the multiplier in my bios. You could check to see what motherboard you have and do a google search of that + 2600k. You'll probably find youtube videos showing you exactly what to do.
You should check the prices at launch though, some of the better coolers are quite inexpensive.
I don't OC, but my wife's FX 6300 would overheat playing some games (stock settings), so I bought a new cooler for ~$35 that significantly cut core temps and also had a quieter fan (much larger than stock) and moved so much air I actually took another fan out of the case.
If the spread between OEM and retail versions of the same chip is fairly close to a quality aftermarket cooler, I recommend getting the aftermarket cooler even if you're not planning to OC. My computer is still on a stock cooler (Phenom II x4) and it's fairly loud, but I haven't had a crash so I haven't bothered upgrading. I'll likely buy the OEM chip with a better aftermarket cooler OOTB this time around though.
Buying a decent cooler it's WAY more cheaper, but buying a new processor would give you a bigger boost in performance ;) You can get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO , it's 30$ and it's one of the best coolers out there ;)
A bit of a noob here.. my cooling requirements are based off how much I OC? How do I know if the cooling will be sufficient for my CPU?
Something like this Cooler Master would be sufficient?
a heatsink and fan. the unlocked intels(K) do not come with one. so you will need to buy your own or else your CPU will fry example
Well, you didn't give us a price. And I don't know..that MSI or the ASUS Z170 are pretty nicely priced. Like I said with the MSI Gaming series motherboards, you just press the OC genie and it'll do everything for you. An aftermarket shouldn't cost you more than 20-30 dollars.
Depending on what you do, you could even just opt for a i5 versus the i7 and that should shave about $100 off the CPU price.
The ever so popular Hyper 212 EVO: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
Yeah. Maybe I'm not understanding the difference between the two, but it looks like this is the same cpu cooler for much cheaper.
EDIT: Even if it is different, it'll still get the job done and be much quieter than stock. It looks like it is smaller, I think.
It should be able to cool about the same or more than the stock cooler, but the main reason of noise is because the fan is so small so you won't see much of an improvement with that one.
The most popular aftermarket cooler is the Hyper 212 Evo which you can get for about 32 EUR, or if you can't afford that there are some smaller versions that you can see on the amazon page: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
I don't know why your pc is bugging out but here is a good and often recommended air cooler that is only 30 usd.
You can get it brand new on amazon for $27. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476576715&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212+evo
may want to save it for future use or mark it down
Lol I figured it was an issue with th heatsink. This is an excellent cooler that will fit that occasionally goes on sale for 20$ https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477497150&sr=8-1&keywords=cpu+cooler+lga+1150
If you can spend 50-75 you can usually get a deal on a 240mm aio water cooler. Just needs to fit an lga 1150 socket. Watch /r/buildapcsales for awesome deals. But the 212 will do fine if your not overclocking
I wouldnt think this is software related. I agree with the other poster, without opening up the loop its imposible to tell what is going on. You could try replacing the thermal paste and making sure that the cooler is secured properly, beyond that theres not much you can do. Your best bet would be replace the cooler. The Hyper 212 Evo gets great reviews and its inexpensive.
The only thing really is the stock intel cooler can get noisy under load. If this isn't an issue for you, then you should be fine.
I got myself a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for my Core i7 4790k. It's fairly cheap, and works pretty well. At idle my CPU can be between 25-30C. However during this past summer I tend to idle around 32-35C because the ambient temps have been higher. Under load the highest i've seen it go is 68-70C.
Wowee, he downloaded realtemp, and when he started The Witcher his cpu temp spiked near 100°C , which as far as i know isn't really an acceptable temp. Right now he's just using the cpu cooler that came with the i5, would you recommend that he goes ahead and nabs one like this one?
Things can't go wrong since your CPU is unlocked. But you need an aftermarket cooler first. This would fit your CPU just fine, https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Also, I think the heatsink that came with your processor should be fine, but i'd personally go for an aftermarket to OC.
500 watts would be my bare minimum for a 1070, you'd have a lot better system longevity with an EVGA 650 watt.
You can shave some money on that CPU cooler though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
$70 on a CPU cooler is a bit much for an i5 in my opinion.
If you want an after market cooler this one is great it will do a much better job and be a lot quieter. You don't need to get it, what you have is likely fine, but it is an option.
Unless you are overclocking just leave the fan curve alone. Also for $30 you can get a Hyper 212 Evo which will be astoundingly better and quieter than the stock heatsink.
True he would be fine, however, something like the hyper 212 for $30 is much better and about 3x quieter. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471633584&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212+evo
You should really invest in one of these heatsinks. It will take care of that heat issue no problem. You really dont want your CPU much over 70 for long periods.
Unless you are wanting to do some extreme overclocking air cooling is better. It will be cheaper and will have no risk of leaking or anything like that. The Hyper 212 Evo for example is $30 and will cool your CPU well enough for a mild overclock.
The stock cooler isnt great but you should deffintly be getting better temps than 98 degrees. That is a pretty unsafe temp to leave your CPU at. You can always just upgrade to something like the Hyper 212 evo for $30. It will be MUCH better than the stock cooler.
I used to have problems with my CPU temperatures reaching 85 - 90C while gaming. I invested a good $30 into buying a CPU cooler (212 EVO) and never seemed to have issues as they were ~35 - 40 idle while gaming. It is also $30 on amazon at the moment. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470632882&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212+evo
The aftermarket heatsink you purchased with that CPU should have thermal paste pre-applied. If you didn't get a separate cooler you'll need something like this because the K chips don't include a cooler.
Are you using the stock Intel cooler? If so, 4GHz is probably fine. You probably won't even have to touch the core voltage to do that.
Anything higher you will want a decent cooler such as this https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471805866&sr=8-1&keywords=Hyper+212+evo
Is your CPU running at 103C? If so you need an aftermarket CPU cooler ASAP. 80C is the rule of thumb temp to not go past.
That is what I have and my Sandy Bridge ran cool at 4.5 GHz.
Might be time to upgrade the heatsync.
My CPU hit 85-90C while running ARK prior. Now runs between 30-35C. An obvious, but important note, make sure all your fans are pushing air the same direction.
Edit: Pretty inexpensive upgrade ($30). Cooler Master. Large unit, almost did not fit in my case. Not a difficult installation either, I just watched a couple YouTube videos.
I'm not sure that heatsink will support LGA 2011, and I also don't know much about that particular one. I know one you can never go wrong with is the 212 Evo which is both inexpensive and a great performer. Also supports like every socket available.
Edit: Also would be happy to look over the components when youre ready
Definitely get a cheap 3rd party cooler for that CPU my dude. An H7 would do just fine.
Edit: On second thought, Cryorig must be going out of business because the cooler I paid under around $30 is now well over $100. Another great option would be the budget king H212 Evo and step-ups include Noctua's offering or the Scythe Mugen, BeQuiet's, all are great budget coolers.
80 is pushing comfortable levels for me. I would fix it for $35 with this bad boy
I bought a coolermaster metal cpu cooler and this solved my temps issue cooler master
Bad timing, they're $24.99 new from Amazon for prime day. link
Something like a hyper 212 is all you need to cool it well, there’s also the hyper 212 rgb edition or this knockoff 212 is pretty my good and has rgb. You could go more expensive, but it isn’t necessary for your Cpu
You're not always going to find stuff on PC Part Picker. They're good, but there are things that aren't in their catalog.
For the cooling, I was looking for a cheap air cooler and right after I got a 212 Evo I got a bunch of ads for the Vetroo V5 that looks to be a hair better.
You can get good cooling for a lot cheaper than the AIOs that are more than sufficient if you don't plan on overclocking.
Hyper 212 is 35$ right now on Amazon and will be whisper quiet: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is a classic.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Y0m4Fb5E55M50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
25-30ish bucks on Amazon/Newegg/Ebay wherever you choose to buy.
You could, but your bottleneck is without a doubt your CPU. Fortunately, you can upgrade to another LGA 775 compatible chip for a modest cost. Here is a modified QX9650, which seems like a great upgrade over what you've got. Or you can pick up a Q6600 for a slightly lower cost. ~~Actually, I think the Core 2 Extreme processors may not be compatible with your motherboard, I'll leave that in there until I know otherwise (Core 2 Quad Q6600 would definitely work).~~ It should work, the ASUS P5QL manual states that it does (page 28).
I would highly recommend the QX9650 over the Q6600 at that price (far better performance, don't even consider the Q6600 if you can get the QX9650).
You'll probably also want either a new cooler, or at the very least new thermal paste for your upgraded LGA 775 processor (the old stuff on it will be rock hard and unusable). For example, the CM Hyper 212 EVO ($38 Amazon, also available w/ $10 Mail-in rebate on Newegg but +$6 shipping) is compatible with the LGA 775 chipset, but will also be compatible with all modern motherboards (LGA2011 & AM4 with an extra bracket) for when you do your full upgrade in the future. Or if you think you might get a CPU with a fan already included (such as the non-k variant Intel processors, or the non-x AMD AM4 Ryzen processors), you can simply buy new thermal paste and re-apply it when you install your upgraded LGA 775 processor.
~~If you want more RAM, you'll have to find out if you're currently using DDR2 or DDR3 RAM, documentation on P43 boards is really weak I'm having a tough time figuring out what your board supports (conflicting information all over the place). Then you can add more.~~ Your board supports up to 1066MHz DDR2.
Also, ~~while you're finding out whether you have ddr2 or 3~~ try and find out which dual core CPU you have, and your current graphics card. Thanks.
tl;dr: Buy a refurbished/pre-owned QX9650, get new thermal paste or a new cpu fan, find out what the speed and timings are of your current ram and then try and match that when you add more (or just buy a new/pre-owned set of 2x4gb DDR2 1066MHz ram).
or Amazon with Prime https://www.smile.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI
I'd like the opinion of my peers here:
I'm upgrading the CPU cooler from the stock cooler so I can take advantage of my i5-7500K (I can't find the K anywhere, but I'm 99% sure it is) and actually overclock the thing so I can actually get 60fps on Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I only get about 45-60fps in that game. I've never overclocked before, so that will be a journey in it of itself.
It's between the Hyper 212 Evo and the be quiet! Dark Rock 4. I have them both up in tabs and am trying to decide. I imagine they run comparably, but the Dark Rock 4 matches my mostly black with some white build better. The Dark Rock 4 is also the recommended cooler by Tom's Hardware, which I like to use as a resource.
I also looked at the Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M but that might be too much RGB for me. Only RGB thing in my build is on my motherboard and it's just like a pulsating red light.
A true first world problem deciding if an all-black cooler is worth an extra $50. But what do you think?
Also, here's the build otherwise: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
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CPU | Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $229.89 @ B&H |
Motherboard | ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $63.99 @ Newegg |
Memory | G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $149.89 @ OutletPC |
Storage | Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $128.90 @ OutletPC |
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card | - |
Case | NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | - |
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $149.89 @ OutletPC |
Edit: I'm second guessing if I can even overclock this CPU. I swear the GeForce Experience thing told me my CPU was an i5-7500K, but those don't seem to exist and the amazon page doesn't tell me if I can overclock. I need to go home and get in front of it and double check.
A Hyper 212 can be had from Amazon for $35. I'd save the additional $10, if that's even an issue. Don't buy anything below that. That's the cheapest reputable cooler I've ever seen.
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Do you mean Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo , i've seen that THIS cooler is bang for the buck.
I have the 5800X aswelll with PBO settinmgs -23 on allcore, and using a Thermalright ARO-M14o with 140mm Noctua Redux fan on it, i've getting in the low 60C on full load
212 RGB black is $60, 212 regular is $43 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI?th=1
Its not worth getting it fixed. You can just replace the part with something like this.
https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
My cooler should be alright for it I'm using Cooler Master
I bought this and installed. Works like a charm!
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If you want to change the cooler, I really recommend the Hyper212 CPU cooler.
https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
I've used it in a couple of builds and it's great. 40$ on amazon. There are RGB variants as well if you need the bling bling.
Hyper 212 (159mm) or a PURE ROCK 2 (155mm) is fine
here are some other options that are plenty and are shorter:
as long as it has 4 heat pipes and it fits it should be fine
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-air-coolers/hyper-212-black-edition/
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
there are several versions of this cooler, but it is a great air cooler and ive been using one of these for years, i recently went to the black edition for aesthetic reasons in my current case.
That's good to know! It's my first custom build, so I don't want to risk too much. My CPU is a Ryzen 9 3900x and the cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005O65JXI
Appologies on missing the specs. My CPU is a Ryzen 9 3900x and the cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005O65JXI
I was just playing a bit tonight, and my temp is sitting around 82C
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_C497V9MHS5B9WGS0KYWD
You can get the 212 new on Amazon for less
Yeah if you want a more cleaner look, go for the black version. And like the other guy said, there's an RGB version too. But the one I was referring to was this one - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_755EYQ17DW6NXER4HX48
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You can buy a cheapo tower heatsink like the Hyper 212 or Pure Rock Slim that does the job for an i3
Am I going crazy? I can find this on amazon, sold by amazon for 31.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
Is CM Hyper 212 under your radar? https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
a hyper 212 is fine
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those temps are certainly on the higher side. You can likely just pickup a hyper 212 for 30-40$ and it should work fine. Its worthwhile to install a couple exhaust fans too. You can pickup the arctic p12 for cheap and they perform near noctua levels for a fraction of the price. You may even want to swap the cooler fan with one of the arctic.
This or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 for $5 more?
I don't care about RGB and lights. I want the best performance, no one looks at my computer anyways.
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Something like this? https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_9Z76Fb1R97X86
I overclocked my CPU from 4.6ghz (all cores) to 4.8ghz (all cores). This got me ALMOST to 60fps in Cyberpunk 2077. For most sections of the game, I am at 60fps. During the big-city areas, I am constantly dropping as low as 48 but usually mid-50s. And my CPU usage shoots up to 99%
My cooler is: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
During full-load, it can get a bit hot because of my overclock (about 75c under FULL load. About 35c idle)
For ram, I'm using 32gb of dual channel memory (it's definitely running in dual channel)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
or this if you dont want the blue LED light
this is the rgb version if you're into that kind of stuff
oh well if you’re still looking for a CPU cooler the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is really good and is on sale on amazon for $25 dollars
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_otEVFbY9V9S61?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I've got a fan making noise on my cpu cooler. the cooler looks like one of these https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI, but mine has a fan on the front and the back. they have extra plastic to clip around the metal of the cooler.
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for me to replace one, are they all about the same? how do I even find out what kind? I"m not sure about the model of the cpu cooler, but that photo looks as close as I can tell, aside from mine having two fans
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Yeah it could help and probably be the cheapest solution. The next cheapest solution is to replace your cpu fan. This is a pretty great fan that's also very cheap https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI?th=1
This one https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=lga+1151+cpu+cooler&qid=1603515539&sr=8-3 it says lga1151 but why didn’t it fit then?
It's available on Amazon with prime too https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
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I ordered this cooler off Amazon. Is it a good one for my CPU? Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JGJ2Db1EXCQBA
Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 at around $20 is very reasonable to use with a R5 3600
Currently Amazon has CM Hyper 212 Evo for $19.75 after $10 MIR which is much more reasonable than the normal price of $40 it is a bad buy because 3600X is better binned chip (comes with a better stock cooler).
Scythe Mugen 5, Scythe Fuma 2, Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power are only $10 more than the 212 EVO everyday price and better than 120mm CLC as they don't wear down or fail while providing same or better cooling.
CM Hyper 212 Evo for $19.75 after $10 MIR
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
I've been out of the loop for a few years on PC parts, and I'm not sure what component(s) in my build I should look into upgrade, and what suggestions you might have? I built this back in 2015:
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700k 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151
GPU: Sapphire Nitro Radeon R9 390
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 80+ GOLD 750W
Monitor: ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms
Some context:
I mostly want to play games comfortably on high/ultra settings, do some 2D art, 3D modeling, and some music production in Ableton. Beefy enough to handle VR would be cool.
Noticed my computer getting somewhat laggy in general even after fresh startup with hardly any background programs running. Recently I've been playing Monster Hunter World and saw a huge drop in performance on max settings after their post-Iceborne updates.
I saw some nice sales in /r/buildapcsales such as the i9-9900k for $300 and the i7-10700k for $350 but wondered if it would be good to get those, and if I did whether I also needed to upgrade my mobo and/or GPU as well.
My budget -- I would like to stay under ~$1000.
Would this one be good for the i7-7700k?
or would this be better
Yes the in the box cooler is good enough, I don't have one, but I hear some people say it can get loud when it gets under heavy loads. If you wanted to get a more silent cooler, the Hyper 212 or it's variants would be a good budget option. If you want more premium silence for a few more degrees of coolness, the be quiet dark rock slim or the little bit better Noctua U12 (also comes in black for more $).
IMO, you don't need any extra case fans. There have been tests that show adding 1 or 2 case fans only cools down temps by a few degrees. So if you're not overclocking you won't need it. But it doesn't hurt either, so what ever you feel like. The Meshify will do you nicely.
Never hurts to have more storage, but that can come anytime.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
This is good value, but i dislike the mount for it.
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U12S-SE-AM4-Premium-Grade-Cooler/dp/B01N9X2YYN
This i prefer much more, but is double the cost.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler w/ 4 Continuous Direct Contact Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_KZhmFbP6ATP78
What do you thinkk about this one? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI?tag=br-best-cheap-cpu-coolers-20
I just upgraded to a ryzen 5 3600 and I have the stock cooler on it right now, would it be worth it to change out the stock cooler for something like either of the two links below? I also have a MSI B450 tomahawk max so if either of these fans are incompatible please let me know! Thanks!
If you want the fastest and cheapest way to know if you've got a bad pump, pick up the Hyper 212 Evo (a decent cooler for the price) and test with that before you cook your CPU. As a few others have said, it sounds like your pump is bad, or you may have possibly put a micro perforation in your radiator when screwing it in which allowed the cooling fluid to evaporate over a long period of time.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
The cpu cooler is $35 on Amazon Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WcBvFbFVTPDB5
Great, used one is all I have left. I purchased it from Amazon a few months back, here is the link that says its AM3+ compatible.
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Interesting. For some reason I thought they were pretty good.
Either way, you don't need to spend that much. A Hyper 212 Evo should be more than enough: https://youtu.be/M6z6BCovVkQ
Edit: $30 on Amazon
This or do i have to go for a liquid cooled one?
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yup, looks like a hyper 212 evo
source: been using this beast of a cooler since '11. dirt cheap, fits most boards, comes with a backplate. the only downside is that its fan isnt very durable. mine failed after just 4 years. i do live in a very dusty area with large seasonal variations. my cooler has quite a bit of rust/corrosion on it. i used to clean it out atleast once a year but gave up a couple of years back.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. It's screws have some fucking springs or something on it a son of a bitch to get on there evenly.
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HxQeDb319P6WE
Is this one any good?
My best recommendation is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, according to the manufacturer of your case and the manufacturer of the cooler it will fit just fine inside your case. It has better cooling capabilities than the Noctua and it's also cheaper. Hope this helps you out and good luck! Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2A2GA6J7P609D&keywords=hyper+212+evo&qid=1554571326&s=gateway&sprefix=hyper+&sr=8-1 Newegg: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16835103099
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI should do it. Just check out amazon or newegg for cpu coolers.
I'm using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.
Totally worth the money, it is a little bit older of hardware, but with a more modern graphics card you could play all modern games at high settings at 1080P. I'd buy it, take the whole thing apart, blow out any dust, clean it up, apply more thermal paste on the CPU and put on a new CPU cooler. AMD is known for heat issues so I'd probably get a better aftermarket cooler, the coolermaster hyper 212 is one of the highest rated ones and it's only $30 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_22_sspa?keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1550607885&s=gateway&sr=8-22-spons&psc=1.
Whoops, didn't realize I was missing parts on the site there. I did get the corsair 3.0 GHz ram. I got this cpu cooler https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and also these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6S0XJO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Scrolled through all the posts and here's what I've been able to gather:
I'm guessing OP has the OEM Intel cooler installed and his girlfriend removed the plastic shroud that holds the fan to the heatsink itself and, as a result, the heatsink no longer makes good contact to the CPU any more.
If that's the case, it's possible that the fan itself was damaged in the removal as the plastic frame that houses it is pretty flimsy. The whirring noise OP hears is probably the motor in the fan spinning, but the blades are not moving any more because the bearing is damaged.
If you have a few bucks, you can pick up something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo on Amazon for under $27. I have one and it keeps my i5-3570k plenty cool.
i corrected r/twiggums with the cheapest cooler. i guess it would be this.
Great liquid cooler: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Radiator-Advanced-Lighting-Software/dp/B019954Y2Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1543389030&sr=8-4&keywords=corsair+liquid+cooling
Great Air cooler: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-heatpipe-NF-A15-140mm/dp/B00L7UZMAK/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543388981&sr=1-4&keywords=noctua+nh-d15
It's between the Hyper 212 Evo and the be quiet! Dark Rock 4. I have them both up in tabs and am trying to decide. I imagine they run comparably, but the Dark Rock 4 matches my mostly black with some white build better. The Dark Rock 4 is also the recommended cooler by Tom's Hardware, which I like to use as a resource.
I also looked at the Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M but that might be too much RGB for me. Only RGB thing in my build is on my motherboard and it's just like a pulsating red light.
A true first world problem deciding if an all-black cooler is worth an extra $50.
I've compiled all the parts I recommend in a PCPartPicker list below for your convenience. Now, allow me to go into a bit more detail. I didn't include a cooler because the Ryzen 5 2600 comes with a rather good cooler in the box for stock operation and modest overclocking. If you want something with a bit more power, you can't go wrong with the Hyper 212 EVO. You mentioned you were planning on purchasing a GTX 1070 as well, so I included that in the list as well.
As for Ryzen and emulation, Intel does tend to be slightly better with emulation due to having faster single thread performance, but the advantage is slim. Emulators are beginning to to take advantage of more threads as of late, and that's where Ryzen excels. Take CEMU and RPCS3 as examples. While Intel is a bit faster in Cemu, Ryzen actually outperforms their chips in RPCS3. With every said, Ryzen is just fine for emulation. Price/performance wise, AMD reigns surpeme.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $165.99 @ Amazon |
Motherboard | Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | $84.99 @ Amazon |
Storage | Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $28.99 @ Amazon |
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $44.00 @ Amazon |
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card | $409.99 @ Amazon |
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case | - |
Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $89.99 @ Amazon |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total | $823.95 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-07 18:46 EDT-0400 |
Andd i forgot to ask if this: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534703729&sr=8-1&keywords=Hyper+212 is good to overclock a core i 5 2500k(not alot mind you)
Just installed this guy
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
now it's reading 84 degrees Fahrenheit :-)
CPU fan Cooler Master Hyper RR-212E-20PK-R2 LED CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4GFPAbNBY2B0T
Something like this is really good.
I concur with other, a beefier cpu would be great, and it doesn't really have to be the latest series. Also whatever cpu you decide I would throw in a cooler master hyper 212. It's way better than a stock cooler and you get a lot of bang for your buck. Also use good paste, like arctic silver https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
Here's the one I use from Amazon.
If you have Prime you should get it by Wednesday.
The stock 965 cooler looks like this - http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink/227923-1-eng-US/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink.jpg
The cooler master 212 EVO is pretty good. I used that on my 965. Allows you to overclock slightly - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI
sounds like it may be anemic so it would be advisable if your case can clear it for the price you cant go wrong with https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/
Cool, I researched a bit and this (https://www.amazon.com/Hyper-212-EVO-bracket-available/dp/B005O65JXI) seems pretty suited for my needs. Thanks for the help!
This is the Evo 212 btw:
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI
It's a fairly affordable cooler, it's air cooled, so no liquid, and it's quite popular for being efficient and affordable.
EDITED:
Save $110 by getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead of the Liquid Cooler. I saw a few youtube benchmarks (comparing the 212 Evo to the h100i) that the 212 Evo only lags behind the liquid cooler by 1*C. If you don't want to use the stock CM fan on the 212 Evo, just buy one Corsair SP120 for $13 on Amazon, and you'll still save $97. Liquid cooling is great until it leaks all over your $3000 setup Google-> h100i leaks (and other models).
.... You also wouldn't need the Thermal Compound if you buy the 212 Evo siince Cooler Master ships you some (Saves $6)
.... Also save $420 and get the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti instead of the Titan Xp. EVGA is the best brand for NVidia cards.
.... You would save a total of ~$536 and have extremely similar performance (basically unnoticeable).
I use this, and it is silent and keeps temperatures perfect https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought one of those amazon cooler things hopefully that is enough. Is It? Sounds good I want to run a stable temp.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is my CPU cooler. Will it do? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A Hyper 212 Evo should do the trick.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thats the cooler i have, you think i should get a better one? Thanks a lot for your response!
I have this cooler on there right now
https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
will that work to overclock it safely?
Looking for an all-together price as well as the individual piece out prices:
I'm not sure if I should make this its own submission, but there is another hyper 212 EVO from amazon through mikes computer shop for $34.28 instead. However with that deal you can't get free shipping, unless you have prime, so the original one might be a better deal.
Also available is the red LED version of this except for $31.99 instead
hello,helping my friend to ask a question
Hyper 212 Evo or MasterAir Pro 4?
Hyper 212 Evo
https://www.amazon.com/MasterAir-Cooler-Continuous-Contact-Technology/dp/B005O65JXI?th=1
MasterAir Pro 4
https://www.amazon.com/MasterAir-Cooler-Continuous-Contact-Technology/dp/B01M5K6DKW?th=1
CM 212 Evo - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item
Should I also buy the same ram that I currently have to be safe, or would any ober 2x4GB work as long as the mobo supports it?
It's a stock Intel cooler but I have this on the way. Is 83 C dangerous? That is the highest it has ever gotten, it usually runs about 78-80.
I personally use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
The Noctua NH-D15 is also a very good choice.
Here is a spreadsheet
So with Ryzen coming out shortly and then Vega this summer I'm looking to sell off my system in its entirety and do a complete rebuild. My current build was pre-built from Cyberpower and while it's been fantastic I'd like to start anew building it myself.
I'm going to be pricing out my current build tonight but wanted to see if any of you had suggestions on how I should price it and if I should sell it off piece by piece or in its entirety. Below are the specs with rough current prices for what they can be found:
I believe that is everything I'd include as I would remove my HDD, SDD.
Thanks!
I wouldn't trust a "Refurbished" AIO
There was probably a reason why it got returned...
Is $65 worth risking your CPU/GPU when/if it does leak?
Get the almighty champ, the Hyper 212 Evo
Or another one that people recommend is the Noctua But its hella expensive..
Go with whatever you feel safer with, There's no shame in not having a liquid cooler... If anything, get the 212 Evo, its cheap and it gets the job done. Plus its pretty much silent, much quieter than that loud ass stock fan.
I made the switch from a 212 Evo to an H100i
Hyper 212 Evo -- most recommended
CRYORIG H7 -- 2nd recommended
Noctua NH-D15 -- Expensive/Huge...
Depends. From what I can see here I'd say that a Hyper 212 Evo would be much better than the stock, although it doesn't necessarily look the prettiest. From what I know about the Fractal R4 you could also put in a Corsair H100i V2 for only about $110 more than stock.
Fantastic -- Here were the two I was talking about:
I think ill wait until I get my heatsink before I start overclocking -- What temp ranges are ok? Does uping or lowering voltage contribute to increase/decrease in temp? When I oc, can I just leave it overclocked or do I have to turn it on and off. I assume it depends on how much your temps fluctuate over a period of time. Any way to monitor this?
Is the goal of of successful OCing to have the highest GHz with the lowest voltage? Is 1.325 considered high or low (what are the general ranges)
Sorry for the oral diareha, im just super curious. Thanks for the help =D
4 year old CPU fan won't start. It would kind of budge and I could give it a shove to get it going, but now it sits still for a few minutes before slightly wiggling and I can't manually start it any more. Smart Fan is disabled, I don't have any other fan headers to test it out on. I checked if anything was blocking the fan, but I could easily rotate it without hitting anything. Cleaned with air just in case.
What's my next step? I'm not sure if the motherboard or the fan is at fault, but would this be a time to order a new fan?
I don't think you'll need any extra cooling, but if you're really concerned about it you could always spring for a 212 Evo (~$30).
And to get the formatting right, in the top bar of PCPartPicker there is a Reddit Snoo icon, you click on that and a new window will pop up and you just copy and paste it into the comment window!
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $194.88 @ OutletPC |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $41.98 @ Newegg |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $91.99 @ Newegg |
Storage | Samsung 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $51.99 @ SuperBiiz |
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.49 @ OutletPC |
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card | $408.99 @ SuperBiiz |
Case | NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.69 @ SuperBiiz |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $83.54 @ Amazon |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total (before mail-in rebates) | $999.55 | |
Mail-in rebates | -$10.00 | |
Total | $989.55 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-29 04:03 EDT-0400 |
**edit: really like your case choice, my first build was in the S340 and it's so easy to work with and there's plenty of space in there!
I'm planning to try overclocking my CPU for the first time soon. I assume it's a good idea to buy an aftermarket cooler (currently using stock cooler)? Would this be a good choice?
Here is my build for reference:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
EDIT: BTW am I going to need to buy thermal paste, too?
Depends on your budget, but a Hyper 212 Evo would be a good place to start.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XvW2xbCBE3XBV
Also, I can't see the rest of your case, but make sure you have a few intake and exhaust fans to keep the air flow going. I just purchased these:
Arctic F12 - Value pack 120mm Standard Low Noise Case Fan Cooling, 5 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTUJRHK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_xzW2xbB9CGDNF
Yeah I was thinking of getting this fan instead. I was thinking about 16GB RAM because it seems cheap right now.
Thanks, but that is actually the exact fan I bought (should have included that in the description). Specifically, from here: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Thanks man! For CPU cooling I have this heatsink added: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B005O65JXI
Would this work?
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
If you're looking to overclock you're probably way past console performance anyways.
Most people use this It is a great CPU cooler and will work with both AMD and Intel
What about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO? I don't know how many heat pipes to get but this seems like the cooler to get.
Also do you think it's worth getting 3000 MHz RAM over 2400 MHz?
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It just seemed to be the most popular one on Amazon.
LinusTechTips did a video on positive vs negative air pressure and found the difference in temperature settings was negligible at most. Positive air flow, however, should reduce the dust that enters your pc, assuming you have dust filters over your intakes.
Liquid cooling should not be remotely necessary. Yes, it will improve performance over air cooling, but for most users air cooling is plenty good. /u/smgswattted, are you using the stock cooler? if so, get an inexpensive aftermarket (hyper 212 evo probably still best value) instead. Make sure you also have at least one case fan.
As far as airflow, this video shows that the key factor is having an adequately sized heat sink.
Personally, I'd wager your problem stems from bad/old thermal compound (and possibly using a stock heat sink). [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p6Hk4IfqI} video explains what thermal compound is, and this video talks about how to apply it most effectively.
That said, /u/desuemery's list is very comprehensive/covers all the bases, but personally I'd suggest just getting that hyper 212 cooler and some new paste before getting liquid cooling or anything fancy unless you just want to be cool. That and get dust filters.
> Will this https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ESRMAPZGA8BEGMR4GZ9N fit on the https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z97-PRO-Gamer-S1150-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B00OK6Q1D0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469468989&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+z97
First time building a PC, I want to have an RX480 build. I am just concerned about the motherboard compatibility with the RAM and CPU, and if the CPU is good enough for the build (I am very unfamiliar with AMD cpus)
Here is my build breakdown, just the important PC components.
Item | Price | link |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) | $38.98 | link |
Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red) | $86.94 | link |
AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 6-Core Processor Black Edition | $134.99 | link |
MSI ATX DDR3 2133 Motherboard 970 GAMING | $120.91 | link |
EVGA Supernova 1000 G1 80 Plus Gold, 1000W Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready | $184.00 | link |
XFX Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 RX-480M8BBA6 8GB 256-Bit DDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card | $349.99 | link |
Corsair Force Series LE SSD, SATA 6Gbps 480GB | $142.49 | link |
I have a case and I will add a couple more HDDs to the mix. Other than that, am I missing anything?
I think you're being scammed. That's just a stock cooler that usually comes free with non-K Intel CPUs. You won't be able to overclock with it. Buy a third party cpu cooler like this one.
About the other components:
Wayona: this is the first time I hear about this brand so I can't comment.
GTX 960: for a better gaming experience, it's better if you downgrade your motherboard and cpu and use the money to buy a better GPU like an RX 480, R9 390, or GTX 970.
PSU: that depends on your budget. Amazon.in sells good PSUs.
/u/spamsince /u/Cerelius_BT
So I have taken into consideration both of your suggestions, along with reconsidering my choice of case and storage, and used PC Part Picker to build a setup with the price I am happy with.
Part | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | $32.00 |
Motherboard | ASUS ATX DDR3 1800 Motherboards H170-PLUS D3 | $117.91 |
CPU | Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 | $242.99 |
Graphics Card | XFX Radeon RX 480 | $349.99 |
RAM | Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB Kit (2x8GB) | $87.99 |
PSU | FirePower Technology Firepower ZT Series 550W 80Plus Bronze | $77.81 |
HDD | 2 x WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive | $95.50 each |
OS Drive | Corsair Force Series LE SSD, SATA 6Gbps 480GB | $142.49 |
Case | Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Mid Tower | $74.99 |
Optical Drive | LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM | $56.99 |
Just want to run it by you guys to see if the parts are compatible.
Thanks again for all your help.
First time PC Builder, are my parts compatible? Am I missing anything?
Part | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | $32.00 |
Motherboard | ASUS ATX DDR3 1800 Motherboards H170-PLUS D3 | $117.91 |
CPU | Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 | $242.99 |
Graphics Card + PSU Combo | XFX Radeon RX 480 | $389.98 |
RAM | Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB Kit (2x8GB) | $87.99 |
HDD | 2 x WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive | $95.50 each |
OS Drive | Corsair Force Series LE SSD, SATA 6Gbps 480GB | $142.49 |
Sound Card | Sound Blaster Z PCIe Gaming Sound Card | $129.98 |
Case | Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Mid Tower | $74.99 |
Optical Drive | LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM | $56.99 |
PS: a suggestion for a black and red motherboard at the same price or lower would be much appreciated!
Shoutout to /u/spamsince, /u/Cerelius_BT for assistance with this build.
This is what i used, but you should google your specific CPU: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265056-29-2600k-2500k-overclocking-guide Programs I used were CPUID CPU-Z, Real temp and Prime95. You should defintely get a new CPU fan. I purchased this: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469384246&sr=8-1&keywords=cool+master+hyper+212 I have a 2600k, i got it from 3.4 to 4.5. I could push it to 4.7 but the temps were going to high 70's, and i prefered low 70's. Mid 70's should be ok, but you are stressing the CPU the higher you go.
The stock cooler generally does fine, but the best cpu fan on the market IMO is the cooler master hyper 212 evo, which you can get for $20-30.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
First things first: a liquid cooler will in no way reduce the heat in your room. the heat is coming from the CPU and the GPU for the most part. the cooler is just drawing that heat out of the CPU/ GPU, and getting it out of your case. The type of cooler you have is not going to affect the amount of heat generated and expelled into your room. ( A more efficient CPU/ GPU will reduce overall heat production.... think RX480 / gtx1070..these will reduce heat in your room vs the older GPUs)
By "air cooler" I just mean a CPU cooler that is not liquid cooled.
Good non-liquid CPU coolers are very efficient, will be MORE than capable of keeping you CPU cool, and generally make less noise than a liquid cooler. Liquid coolers are very niche, and are really only needed if you are overclocking to the MAX and creating a hell of a lot of extra heat in your CPU. For the most part people choose liquid coolers because they look cool.... or sometimes because they plan on stressing their system to the max.
The go-to cooler for most people is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. This guy just works, and you wont need anything more expensive: 4.5 stars with 5500 reviews on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
If you want to get more creative here is a guide by toms hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ Is a good cooler and its only $29. Very quite
Is it a K model? If it is you should be able to OC it and it would be worth spending 30 bucks on a cheap cooler like the Evo 212 and OCing a little. I googled for like a minute but people are reporting an OC to 4.5ghz with this cooler.
Thats about the same OC I got on my 8320 and I cant help but think youll see a massive performance increase in CSGO.
Forgot to mention but I also have a CD drive. Do I need watercooling? Would it be possible to save on the cooler with http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI and spend the saved money for a better motherboard for better future-proofing? I'm terrible at knowing what things would fit/be compatible.
Thanks! I bought a Coolmaster hyper 212 I'm going to see how it all runs before i decide if I'm keeping it or going with a water cooler.
What he said. The idle temps are pretty high indeed. Also you could consider an aftermarket cooler. Is your ambient temperature high as well? (is it hot in your room?)
High ambient temps, lots of accumulated dust. It could be anything. If it causes your PC to crash though you should really use a temp monitor program and check if you are getting >90 degrees. If that's the case, dusting off your CPU fans is a good first idea. Reapplying thermal paste is a good practice as well every 10+ months. There are also good aftermarket coolers that can help with high temps.
GTA V seems to have a well known problem with FRD even on the lowest settings on a high end pc. HOWEVER, since your CPU is maxing out, I would make sure to change the stock cooler. The one I have linked is the most popular heatsink out there as far as air cooling goes.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Like in the other comment, I don't think you'd need a 50$ cpu cooler. I'd recommend the evo 212. It does have a lower price point, but I can't seem to find it on australian sites. Maybe you can look further into it.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
The asus strix r9 390 is 10$ cheaper than your gtx 970 and packs up to 15% more performance.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-strixr9390dc3oc8gd5gaming
Also: You can go with a cheaper case. But this is ultimately your decision!
Happy gaming and hope that AU$ gets better.
A passive cooler wont be enough to keep it from thermal throttling/hitting the safety shutdown temp. That is the style cooler to look at just with a fan or two on it. Hell even a hyper 212 evo would be a decent choice for stock/moderate overclock but keep in mind it has significantly less surface area than the NH-D15 so the fan will spin at higher RPM thus creating more noise.
Good point, didn't catch that one. Thanks for the quick reply, in your opinion, would something like the 212 EVO be powerful enough to cool my i7 5820k?
Your CPU is running dangerously hot -- I would suggest getting a Hyper 212 EVO or a Corsair H80 if you're willing to spend a bit more.
It does it automatically, as long as you have a modern motherboard. That said, unless you enjoy loud fans, get an aftermarket fan because the one that the Fx6300 ships with is completely useless and unbelievably loud. You might wait until you boot yours up to decide though.
I snagged this and my PC is dead silent: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456938199&sr=8-3&keywords=cpu+fan
Might be a little overkill, I'll admit.
212 EVO is actuially more than enough for most builds and is 30 bucks or less and great performance to price ratio, Noctua you want is little better but not twice the price for 10 celsius cooler
Edit: sorry didn't notice you asked bout water , maybe see some comparisons on self contained water ones like corsair ones, they are bit better then noctua and can be found for the price on sale
All in all, it's a good build. Although I'd recommend an EVGA card instead of MSI, just because of EVGA's superior customer service. That's just my personal opinion though. K version CPUs are unlocked and intended for overclocking. Z branded motherboards are also meant for overclocking, so if you don't want to overclock, you could always save some money with a non K version CPU, and a cheaper motherboard. If you are wanting to overclock, I'd suggest water cooling. An AIO water cooler would do, but if you want air cooling, I'd suggest getting a Hyper 212 EVO or the Cryorig H7 if you can find a Canadian retailer who sells them.
I'd recommend either the Hyper 212 EVO or the Cryorig H7.
Are you using the stock cooler? if so that's normal.
Currently with about 5 reddit tabs open with a 4690k and R9 390 using a Hyper 212 cooler I am at 41 degrees. Hit about 70 under load in games.
Your current temps are more than fine whilst on idle, and to be expected whilst under heavy load. If you want to fix that, pickup a Hyper 212 for $30. You won't regret it.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=logicaincrem-20
212 Evo is the most popular entry cooler.
Alright thanks. I thought I would have to upgrade the PSU and already had that factored into my budget. If I didn't care so much about streaming and I would rather be able to game then stream later, is an AMD A10 processor fast enough for the R9 380x? Is that a dumb question?
I have a couple more quick questions: I already have a 103w power supply in it but I've heard not to cheap out on those. If the 103 w isn't enough, would this fan be sufficient for the R9 380x?: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WF72KZT5VJ362MSV1J5
Also, do I need to worry about whether the case I have will fit the power supply and graphics card?
Sorry for all the probably stupid questions I'm asking but I really appreciate the help.
Thanks for the research. Very interesting.
So the LGA 1155 has a unique top-down screw fitting that won't align with my new mobo.
The user in that forum suggested buying an aftermarket fan. Consdering that I'm not trying to affix anything to that old mobo (it's trashed), can you verify that
will fit
?
Thanks!
Ok. Cool, to be clear this is the CPUC you're talking about?
As for the GPU, that sounds sensible, GPUs hold their value well?
No idea about the bracket compatibility, check google? For $40 you can probably get one that tells you it is like this seems like the product not being updated to tell you it is suitable for your CPU is a sign it's old and the company doesn't care too much.
Yeah, the Hyper 212 is a great cooler and it's only about $25 on Amazon.
I got the same CPU and had pretty high temps (like you) with the stock fan. Spend $30 on this Hyper 212 EVO and $5 on some Arctic Silver 5 paste and you'll be GTG http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
So the fan that I saw recommended is this should I get it just to be safe? I didn't really think I needed it but maybe if I do some more resource intensive gaming and work it might start to warm up?
92's bad, you should consider replacing your CPU heatsink or at least re-applying thermal paste.
Consider the Hyper 212 evo, it's cheap and it works well.
Perhaps look into getting a aftermarket CPU heatsink, that would help with your temps. On second thought, you might not be able to fit one of those monsters in this case though. I'd say look into a bigger case (with more fans) and a new CPU heatsink (like this!)
Yeah something like this.
I've tried logging into my old pcpartpicker account to find the case I have but it's been so long I can't remember my login (and password reset email isn't sending... hmm). I do know I have this CPU fan (or something similar) and this Graphics card. I'm pretty sure the loudest component is just the case fan, and the fact that my case has an open fan grill on the top. I tried placing a towel on the top to dampen it, but it barely helped.
so you think this one will get the job done?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
Overclock that beast, grab a $30 aftermarket cooler and most 920's get to 4.0 Ghz. Mine maxs out at 4.2. Hell even 3.6 Ghz will breathe new life into it. Plus its fun to over clock! Let me know if you need any guides or resources on t!
My first thoughts are:
If you have done these things, either way, I'd recommend trying to reapply the paste and make sure you are using the right amount. If you get the same results again, then I'd recommend getting an aftermarket cooler. There is a very good chance that the cooler is the problem. Many people use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO because of the awesome price/performance you can get with it. This would be the best next step to solving your issues. Just make sure your case has enough room for it first.
Yeah, I meant an aftermarket one. That looks like the stock one. Usually the heatsink is much bigger in an aftermarket solution.
This one is really popular and it's what I used to overclock my Phenom II: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_IfzJwbGZ9YHM3
Hey we have the same cpu! Do yourself a favor and drop $30 for this bad boy :)
You NEED a better cpu cooler, heres a good budget one that will fit your build perfectly and provide you with low temps, also take a look at the cryorig h7 but i dont know if they ship to canada or not.
The pre-applied thermal paste should be more than enough. You might see a couple degrees decrease in temps with the aftermarket stuff but I wouldn't expect much unless something is wrong with the current paste.
If worst comes to worst just buy a nice aftermarket cooler like the <strong>Hyper 212 EVO (air cooler)</strong> or the <strong>Corsair H100i GTX (liquid cooler)</strong> for much better cooling.
If THAT doesn't fix it then you MIGHT have a faulty CPU (very unlikely)
If you can fit it I say the hyper evo 212 cpu cooler, it will save you $50 and is a beast. But it's big.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
When you say 212 are you referring to this? Looks pretty great. It seems to be around the same price but much less bulky which was a bit of a worry for me with the zalman. Thanks for the recommendation.
I've had good results with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. You'd save about $15 and probably get about the same performance.
If you have room in the case, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is a budget favorite.
Another 2500k, but @ 4.4ghz using this cooler: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450660094&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+hyper+212
I have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Edit: hahaha. Didn't notice my cooler was the exact one you recommended until a second ago. Good choice :p
I am going to keep an eye on my temps with afterburner the next time this happens though. Since it's been happening in the middle of the night after I have just fallen asleep I haven't went to the other room to check when it happens besides making sure nothing weird was going on with the PC.
Is the cooler good or should I go with this one?
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_U6NswbF24R745
Mobo is just an easier way to alliterate a motherboard which is what I linked. If you budget can afford a CPU Cooler, it never hurts to include only if your budget allows. This is what I have attached to my CPU. Kinda a bitch to attach, but helps! And you don't need one, but it's a cool spec.
i actually stick to Amazon and newegg (and maybe NCIX, I ordered two things there and while they were ok they double charged me for my GPU putting my account several hundred in the negative) because so many other stores want to charge 10+ dollars on shipping and still take over a week to deliver it, at that point i'd rather just eat the 15-20 dollars im "saving." But always check out /r/buildapcsales before actually buying anything, you'll usually find at least 1 or 2 things you can save money on if you're doing a complete build.
oddly enough check staples for any parts you find on the cheap, they'll price match if you contact them via phone or online chat support, and they offer 2 (or 3 i cant remember) shipping. on my first build I had them price match an i3-4130 that was an in store only deal at microcenter and I got it for ~90 bucks, saving me 30 or 40 bucks.
Besides that your build looks fine, the only issue I see is the CPU cooler, you chose the 212 plus, which is still a good cooler, but the slightly newer (and very slightly better) 212 evo is like 3 bucks cheaper, and qualifies for free prime shipping (and if you don't have a prime account you should really sign up for the free 1 month trial before you order anything, 2 day free shipping is a godsend) not a huge deal but no reason to spend money you don't need to.
Stock cooler is OK if you're not overclocking. I would go ahead as is, and save up about $30 and grab a hyper 212 evo. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Looks good. The Motherboard and Power supply should work fine together. I actually have that motherboard in my rig right now, I think its a great Motherboard. Stick with the I7-4790k. You're also gonna need a heatsink, I recommend This One I use that heatsink with my 4790k, and it keeps it at about ~50c-60c while playing modern games. Also, the GTX 980 should be able to handle new games fine at high settings.
My stock cooler is not cutting it for my I5-4570. Is the cooler master Hyper 212 EVO a decent choice? I like some cpu intensive games like Cities Skylines, and ESO. Stock cooler has been letting me get into the high 80's frequently. Also what is most suggested for thermal liquid/paste these days?
It would be a worthwhile investment.
Something cheap like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO will work wonders.
i'm not sure how much the evo 212 is in the US, but that's considered one of the best for the price point. might even be cheaper than $30 i have no idea
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
This would be better. Little more expensive, but temps will be better.
I recently fixed a very similar problem with my own machine. It was making all my games slower than they used to be but the difference was far more apparent on 7dtd than any other I tried. Most everything else I own still played just seemed like it wasn't up to the level it used to be. Turned out to be my cpu overheating and this computer being my first with a modern enough processor that it underclocks itself to avoid overheating I didn't think of that until someone asked to see a system spec report and I noticed I was idling around 70c. Once I found out this was the problem I tried cleaning the cpu heatsink/fan and it barely made a difference. Since I also happened to be out of thermal compound at the moment I just ordered a better cpu cooler at the same time. Now it's back to being butter smooth all the time and my temps even under full load never go over 40c.
The cooler I got and highly recommend if you're on a budget and not trying some super high overclock is this one. It will come with it's own tube of thermal compound in the box so no need to buy a separate tube. This will not only keep your cpu nice and cool no matter how hard you work it, but because of how it's designed the heatsink is placed in a much easier to clean position for later when it will (just like all heatsink/fan combos will) eventually get too dirty to cool and need to be cleaned.
Considering you have a 4690 I don't see the need for liquid cooling as overclocking isn't an option. Instead I would probably invest in an air coolder such as THIS.
You definitely should buy an aftermarket cooler,
I use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO.
Your temperatures aren't horrible, but they aren't good either. Try to clean out your computer and do a bit of wire management if you can to keep it open and let air flow through it more easily.
It's good and cheap
Of course i will. It was only $31 USD. I did a lot of research before I got it and I hope it will make due until I get the water cooling system set up. Any advice for me on that endeavor? E: look here
I had planned on grabbing one of these. It's not high end by any means, but if I'm only planning to do modest overclocking, that should do the trick if I don't feel like going with water cooling and I have good case ventilation and airflow, right?
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Thats a good cooler, it goes on sale often. Check out slick deals for recent deals on coolers.
yes you can, I recommend the Hyper 212 for a cooler. You could do some overclocking with this cooler as well. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
This cooler is quite good for its price
I'm not sure if I misread or skipped over the temperatures originally, but 45 idle and 80 load is just a bit on the high sid of regular, especially if you're using a stock heatsink. You may want to look into an aftermarket heatsink such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. You can also look in your BIOS for something along the lines of "Emergency Shutdown Temperature" or "Safety Shutdown Temperature" and raise it higher (the standard is 100c, your mobo may just be set low).
I'd need to know the case because good CPU coolers are tall and on smaller cases won't fit due to their size.
Otherwise I'd recommend the Hyper Evo 212, which is the best budget cooler for a good price.
For fan options I'd need to know the case as it'll let me determine whether or not you need a new case and what fans of what sizes can be mounted inside.
I am upgrading my CPU fan. I have a fan that a screw clip system. I want to get this fan: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=229SLR3NKJ46Q&coliid=I1ZY074MJ63HUX&psc=1
Which uses just screws. Will it work with the same holes? I use a 680i LT SLI motherboard by Nvidia.
Is liquid cooling overkill for an i5 4590 in the NZXT H440? If not which of the Kraken coolers would I need to get and how should I set up the radiator?
Or should I just get the S340 and the CM Hyper 212 EVO?
I really like the looks of the H440 better but as a beginner just starting to order parts I'm concerned about airflow and temperatures.
personally i'd go with a power source in the 750-850w range if you are going to go with high end stuff like the 6600k and gtx 980ti. I'm not familiar with that Ram type, i'm assuming it's DDR4? Go with DDR4. The i5 you listed is very good, no need to worry about that. For a cooler, this one should fit your case, http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_text_y
Alright. In the meantime, I've decided to invest in some quality cooling. The Cooler Master 212 is almost universally acclaimed as being awesome, and some GC Extreme thermal paste to put it on with seems like a good idea. Case fans on the other hand, I'm not sure about. I've been going off this list, as I do not care whatsoever about noise, and I would stick a jet engine in there if I could. Are there any fans you would recommend, with noise being at the bottom of the priority list and shipping speed at the top? (I need to finish this build before the 22nd.)
Its really not hard,when i didnt know how to overclock, i searched on forums and i read through it. after just 30Minutes i knew how to overclock, at the first moment i was scared to overclock my CPU, because i thought i'd break the CPU or damage it,which is surely not the case. If you plan to Overclock, get a K edition, paired with [this],(http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1438663674&sr=1-3&keywords=evo) Now if you are going over the budget, consider getting the i5 K edition, for rendering and such a i7 ideal. its pretty much up to you. i7 won't make any difference in gaming in such, pretty minimal.
If your using stock Cooler get this.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_DHGZvb3CW6FB5
And some thermal paste should be pretty cheap overall.
Almost every build benefits from a cooling fan, and a pretty popular choice is the Hyper 212 EVO.
It might have some effect, but even then the difference between them would be pretty minimal.
The Hyper 212 evo is a popular choice (and one I use for my FX-8350); it's pretty reliable, quiet and efficient.
If you really want good cooling then you could go for an all in one water cooler like the Corsair H60 or it's bigger brother the H100i.
Maybe quit denying the evidence and look at the full site: http://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/
No where does it say MSRP
I would like to add that if reapplying the thermal paste or heatsink doesn't work the CM Hyper 212 EVO is one of the best heatsinks available for only about $30. I run my 4770 at 45C and below while gaming and under 55C while rendering (most of the time).
Exactly! I keep the temperature in my apartment at about 74F and I recently upgraded to the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo from the stock cooler. It is supposed to be the best air cooler you can get and for only about $30 it is a steal. It also helps I have 2 of these Noctua case fans as my top pull fans.
Probably this one:
I just installed this one in my rig yesterday. I've never bothered overclocking, but my stock cooler was getting incredibly loud even after cleaning. I installed this and now my machine is whisper quiet. I would recommend it. CoolerMaster has some cheaper ones too, but this model is a pretty well regarded air cooler.
Edit: Since you said you are looking for a low profile cooler, you should know that this cooler is pretty big. You'll need to make sure it can fit in your case.
Let me start off by asking what case you have. Or what the model number of your computer is so I can find pictures of it and see where you can put fans.
The easiest route is to add more case fans. Adding them wherever you can physically put them to increase airflow in your case.
Another option as other users have said is put a new heatsink on it. I recommend the Hyper 212+ as it is the cooler I use on my CPU and it stays below 40C even while playing GTA V on ultra.
If you do end up buying another heatsink, please do yourself a favor and pick up thermal paste, I use Arctic Silver with the Hyper 212+, and my temps are very low.
The only issue is it is a LARGE heatsink so you might not have the room for it, but I would definitely consider it.
To put the new heatsink on, you'll have to remove the old one very carefully, then clean off the surface of the processor so there is nothing there. Then add a dollop of fresh thermal paste, slowly put the new heatsink on, and attach it to the motherboard.
My brother has bought some Arctic Thermal Paste, so I shall try applying that. I just read that AMD Stock Coolers are loud and hot as hell. Should I purchase something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Any reason you changed over to the fx lineup instead of i5 4460 & h97 plus?
You're buying a cpu on a dead socket which has significantly lower single core performance compared to the i5 4460.
(click the part names for store page) PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type | Item | Price |
---|---|---|
CPU | Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor | $2,934.80 |
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $495.33 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte H81M-DS2 | $870.00 |
Memory | Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory | $487.20 |
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $875.80 |
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card | $2,695.29 |
Case | Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case | $870.00 |
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $792.62 |
Case Fan | Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | $123.67 |
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
Total (before mail-in rebates) | $618.89 | |
Mail-in rebates | -$55.00 | |
Total | $563.89/$10244,71 | |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-01 04:52 EDT-0400 |
Check the links, see if you can find cheaper prices with other merchants. My build is missing SSD.
Your processor is okay for gaming, but it is designed for overclocking and that chip will have large gains (from what I've heard) when overclocked. Something to think about... You'd need an aftermarket cooler to do that. CM 212 Evo would do the trick. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
You don't have to, but as a rule I like to get at least a Hyper 212 EVO to keep the CPU cool. It's not too expensive and it's a very well-regarded aftermarket air cooler. Those stock coolers can get really loud and don't do a very good job of cooling.
You'd need the Z97 mobo which runs about $30 more, and you'd need some kind of cooler. You can get a good air cooler for $30 - http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435912063&sr=8-1&keywords=cpu+cooler or a closed-loop water cooler for $60 or $100, like http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-Liquid-Cooler-CW-9060010-WW/dp/B009VV56TY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435912063&sr=8-7&keywords=cpu+cooler
So you could get away with about $60 more :) Or a little more for a little bit nicer parts, whatever you want.
Edit: re: overclocking - there are good tutorials, if you prepare well, risk is minimal!
Wow, that cooler is a real blast from the past. It was a groundbreaking design back in 2006 and is still probably pretty decent.
However, if you have the room for it, I would go with the similarly priced Hyper 212 EVO:
Do you think that is sufficient?
CPU temps a bit high, I suggest a Hyper 212 EVO as a CPU cooler.
Other than that, a GPU upgrade maybe? That can get expensive though, and I'm running 660ti fine on mine so xD
I think it might be a cooling issue. I took my small personal fan from my desk and had it on full blast pointing into the open side of the PC case. I was able to play two missions with no problems whatsoever. This is confusing for me as I'm not sure what could be overheating. The CPU temps seem fine according to CPUID, never going above 40C with or without the desk fan (plus the CPU has the massive 212 Evo attached to it). The GPU temps never go above 70C. Could the mobo be overheating? To answer your questions I'm not really looking to OC anything as my hardware should be able to handle games fine (BF4 was running 60+ FPS on ultra just now), I just want my system to not BSOD. The GPU was just bought the other day so unless it's factory OCed (if that's even a thing) it should be fine (exact gpu I have link. I'm running 64 bit Windows 7, and I bought the PC from a kid off craigslist who wanted a PS4 instead.
Thanks.
Wouldn't worry about it, but I would recommend investing in a cheap air cooler such as the Hyper 212 evo. Recently purchased one for my fx8350 and doesn't go over 45C while stress testing. I didn't overclock it however.
Can I fit the Cooler Master 212 Hyper Evo in a Corsair 200r with the Asus M5A99X and AMD FX-8350?
Also which cooler would be best the one above or the Corsair Hydro Series?
I do mostly high end gaming, streaming, video recording/processing, online work.
Second question:
I am looking to make a PC just to stream and the PC above for the gaming, has anyone built just a streaming PC that records from another PC? I need just a mobo/processor since I have power supply, ram, case, HDD. What capture card? And would a KVM switch be better than separate monitor?
Overclocking (imo) isn't worth it, as you lose your warranty on whatever you're doing it on, shorten it's lifespan, and increase temperatures, all for a usually mild 2-5% FPS boost. If you wish to overclock anyways, definitely purchase a third-party CPU cooler, such as a Hyper 212 EVO.
Would also recommend the hyper 212 evo. You can get one for about $30 here. These are some of the most popular air coolers. You can also swap out the fans to make them whisper quiet.
I have a PNY GTX 980 and had a PNY GTX 680, they have been very reliable cards for me. (Total of 3 PNY cards, can't remember the last one.) Your case sounds fine, what size are the fans? How much CFM are they pushing? Only way to bring down your CPU temperature is to get a better fan. If you're using the stock one I would recommend something like a http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430866877&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+evo I have a cooler master very similar to this one. It's been wonderful.
Have you been using a stock cooler? I personally don't know anything about water cooling but this http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI is a pretty darned good air cooler.
If you feel fine about spending 1300 dollars, I guess its fine, but I just feel like you could save yourself a lot more money without missing major performance. 16 gb seems like a lot to start out, your mobo has 4 slots so I would start with two paired 4gb and if its really necessary get another pair of 4gb. I doubt you'll ever need the 32gb it fully supports, just my opinion, I like paring my sticks vs buying them individually, and I don't mind having many. I have the same power supply, its great, good deal. If you keep your eyes open on newegg and amazon you can get a dvd drive dirt cheap, I got mine for 9 dollars and free shipping. Same with case, 100 bucks isn't too expensive, but if you really wanna trim fat thats a place, with a mail in rebate I got mine for 30 dollars and it has more than everything I need. That's a crazy CPU cooler, 90 bucks, idk, if you have a 200 dollar CPU I can kinda justify the cost. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1431308897&sr=1-1&keywords=CPU+cooler This one is less than half that. Also, 60 dollars for a mouse seems pretty ridiculous in my book, but if its the quality you want and you have the cash, by all means go ahead. My mouse was 30 and it has LEDs and thumb buttons and preset sensitivity buttons and all that. Everything looks good though, cheers!
Yes it's okay to overclock but the stock cooler doesn't have enough cooling power to handle the extra heat that the overclocked processor will produce. Something like a Hyper 212 EVO is a great low cost solution for overclocking if you have the physical space.
No, this is after an intense benchmark of Sniper Elite 3.
The cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It runs a bit lower, as this was also after the benchmark
If you're willing to spend ~$3 more you can get a brand new one for free with free shipping http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The hyper 212 just went on sale. I'll edit in a link in a second
~28$
Its possible you aren't properly cleaning off the old paste, improper paste technique, or your heatsink/fan is not working properly.
What was the procedure you followed to change the paste? have you thought about buying an aftermarket heatsink?
I highly doubt a BIOS update will change anything until you get your hardware in order first.
I forgot, this is the build information if anyone needs it:
CPU: AMD FX-9370 Vishera 8-Core 4.4GHz Socket AM3+
Sink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX600)
MOBO: BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+
Graphics: EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti
hard drive: WD Re WD5003ABYZ 500GB
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO has been the king of CPU Coolers for some time now. It's cool, quiet and cheap for what you get.
This is my heatsink. Yes, when I replaced my heatsink I cleaned off old thermal paste.
Fractal Design r5 for case? This cooler is well regarded. And yeah, consider a 4690k
Try PcPartsPicker to start your build. With this, you're able to select the components you want, compare prices, see reviews, and see builds that others have done as well.
You should be pretty damn close to your budget mark anyway. $700 is pretty good.
I always remind people to not cheap out on heatsinks for their processor. stock sinks are crap and noisy as hell. My old sink fan sometimes ran up to 4200 rpm and it sounded like a jet fan. I will always recommed liquid cooling and it's generally pretty easy to set up. If you want a traditional heatsink, I highly reccomend the CoolerMaster 212 EVO. Make sure you get a mid-size tower or the heatsink will not fit. this sink uses 120 fans and is as silent as the other fans. my pc temp dropped about 8 degree celcius. no lie. good luck.
I like this thread! Soo is this beauty: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI the best bang-for-buck cpu cooler there is? I'm currently on cooler that came with my CPU (AMD FX-4130) and it's loud as hell.
Will the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo fit on my Gigabyte Motherboard with an Intel i5-4460 in it?
Something like this, or no? I am very noobish when it comes to cooling since I read the stock fan would be fine for non-overclocked stuff.
I have a run of the mill Intel CPU stock heatsink/fan. I'm having sound issues with my computer, so I'm considering changing all the fans, including the one on the heatsink.
How feasible is this? Are standard fans compatible with that heatsink or does it use a special fan?
I don't do any overclocking so sound really is the only issue. Do you think it would be legitimate or worth it to just buy a whole new heatsink, like say the Evo 212 and change the fan on it?
I'd like to hear you guys' thoughts on this before I make the plunge.
EDIT: I have the stock cooler that came with the i7 - 4790k
In the future, please use pcpartpicker.com to create a markup that we can read easily.
As for your build, I would go with a more reputable brand of power supply. You should be fine picking from the following brands: Corsair, EVGA, SilverStone, Seasonic.
If you wish to overclock (I assume you will be since you chose a k model processor) you will need an aftermarket heat sink. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO works very well.
I love the ascetics of all these parts and the red should work well together. I recommend looking into the NZXT red h440 as a case.
As for storage I would get a SSD + 1tb HDD.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI I would recommend that heatsink only because i have used it before so i know the quality the one you liked though looks good and has good specs but ive never used also zalmans are nice but idont no how much room you have in your case
If you find your computer making a lot of noise then that might be the stock AMD processor cooler.
Getting something like this would do the trick.
Welcome to the master race.
Yikes, that's pretty high, I'd definitely try replacing the cooler and use some good thermal paste. I recommend http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ and http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/
EWWWWW stock cooler is a no no!
get this http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
^one of the best air coolers on the market for price vs performance. there are better coolers but they are only slightly better and they are wayyyy more expensive. even if you don't plan to overclock get this. immediately
otherwise, nicely done!
If I am overclocking an i5 4690k on an asrock killer board should I get a cm hyper 212 evo or a cm seidon? Would air or water be better here? I am not so worried about price but rather a good aftermarket cooler. I am not willing to pay more than $50 for cooling. My case would be able to fit the 212. Also, if I put in high profile RAM in the slots furthest away from the cpu, the outermost set, would I be able to fit the 212 or would i need to get low profile RAM?
The Hyper 212 Evo is a favorite around here, and not too expensive if you haven't heard (which you very well may have).
OP hinted he wants to game on a 144hz monitor so more CPU grunt will be really beneficial in a lot of games. I think his CPU (that's in that linked build) will bottleneck on a good number of games at 144hz, especially newer games with more/better AI. Of course it also really depends on the games OP wants to play.
I have a 780ti for my 120hz monitors and would easily be bottlenecked by my 2500k in a lot of instances if I didn't overclock it. I wouldn't recommend a processor that's bought now for a similar purpose to be weaker than what I have at the moment (which is actually almost 4 years old now, how time flies).
OP for the most part people in this sub will give you ideas on what you should and shouldn't include for a lot of reasons. Your current build is fine I would just change your motherboard (unless you are fine with micro ATX in a mid tower case), CPU and potentially your power supply. Everything else is pretty much good to go.
At a minimum I would (if I were you) bump up to this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KPRWB9G/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1425332349&sr=8-2&keywords=4670k&dpPl=1&dpID=51SuhUev8DL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Sure it'll increase your cost by a little but you would be grateful for it in the long run. /u/lordcrewe that's my recommendation.
Thank you, yeah I do plan on OCing.
This one?
I'd recommend this then
Yeah the Borderlands engine is almost entirely CPU-bound. I get the same FPS with my 560 ti as I do with my 970 in BL2. Basically your CPU is working really hard when playing it. Still, you definitely shouldn't be getting anywhere near those temps. Without seeing your actual computer in-person, all I can really give you are the most likely causes and solutions.
(most likely cause) Check if your cpu cooler is seated properly and making full contact with your cpu. Also just to make sure, check if there's one of those really thin clear plastic stickers on the copper contact of the cooler or the top of the cpu. I've seen it happen before.
(second most likely) Did you apply thermal paste/compound when you installed the cooler? If so, how much did you use? Usually a tiny squirt the size of a grain of rice right in the center is adequate, any more and it can be counter-productive. ---------- If not, did the cooler have thermal paste pre-applied?
How's the airflow in your case? How big is it? You usually want to have more intake fans than exhaust fans. Is your gpu getting really hot, too or is it just the cpu?
^ It could be something other than those 3 causes, but it's almost definitely related to one of those.
Download Realtemp if you haven't already...really good program for measuring accurate cpu temps.
EDIT: I actually looked into this a bit since I was curious and a lot of people online (and also a RL friend of mine) with the same CPU had the same problem. In almost every case, buying a 3rd party cooler fixed the problem. The 4790k is apparently just a naturally hot CPU since its base clock on all 8 cores is 4.0 ghz.
If none of the above stuff fixes your problem, I'd recommend getting something like <strong>this</strong>. It's widely regarded as the best price/performance CPU cooler and it's super affordable...but kind of hard to install. I personally have that cooler with my i5 2500k @ 4.5-4.7 ghz and I never go above 71°C. It's amazing, just a real pain to install.
If you want a slightly better cooler thats way easier to install for $20 more, you could get <strong>this</strong> instead.
Really ambitious for a first build. For next time (or this posts edit) give a little insight into your intended use/workload, so we can tailor advice to your situation. A few points:
The 4690*K* isn't worth the money if you're not planning to overclock. Even if you are planning to, you could do a little more research, save money and just overclock a 4690 (non K part).
Liquid cooling isn't even remotely necessary if you're not planning to overclock in this case. If you're looking to do a modest overclock, you could get away with the 212 Evo everyone here seems to love or any other solid performing air cooler.
Performance in games don't benefit greatly from higher RAM speeds, and as such you could save a little money spending less on RAM running at 1600 or 1866 mHz.
The SSD is insanely expensive for what you get. Straight up. There are similar portable ssds for that money. Calm down. You could get a plethora of drives with similar capacity and performance for almost half the price. I've heard good things about this one
Talk to a few more nerds before going out and buying all the parts, since while you're not buying any low quality parts, you're probably spending a lot more than you need to. Good luck with the build.
The 290X uses a lot more power than the nVidia alternatives, and AMDs software (RaptR) that takes advantage of the built in encoder for streaming (which negates the need for CPU overkill) is more intrusive in design and obtuse in use compared to nVidias offering (Shadowplay). A GTX 970 is the obvious alternative with it's similar price and slightly better performance, but in using the nVidia GPU for streaming, you could save enough money on the CPU and cooler (and PSU if absolutely necessary) to grab a GTX 980, which performs far better than the 290X.
Worth noting also, is that most (if not all) Core i parts from Intel have Quick Sync built in, which uses the onboard graphics, which are barely ever used, to encode video for streaming in OBS (and possibly xsplit but don't quote me).
You don't need an unlocked i7 for streaming or gaming. An i5 4690 would be a better fit for those tasks alone. The i7 is more for heavy video editing and other productivity tasks.
The i5 4690 is still overclockable, but you save an extra 20USD or so compared to the 4690K, which simply makes it easier to OC. It ultimately comes down to how much homework you want to do. If you're not looking to overclock, you don't need the water cooling. If you're only wanting to do a modest OC, you could go for the cheaper (CM 212 Evo)[http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424624026&sr=8-1&keywords=212+evo] or any other highly rated air cooler.
If you go with the GTX 970 (or 980) and the i5 4690, you don't need such a powerful PSU, and could get away comfortably with a 600W unit like this EVGA
You can save money on the optical drive if you probably won't ever use it.
Building the PC shouldn't need anything more than a phillips head screwdriver and a container to hold all the screws to make sure you don't lose them.
Good luck building, gaming and streaming, and enjoy the free 2 day shipping.
If I were to go with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would that just be completely redundant? I just want everything to stay cool at all times, hence the Corsair 500R Case. Thank you for your input!
You should never overclock with stock cpu cooler. For 35 bucks, you can ensure that your CPU is safe.
Fair enough I waited the longest possible time before finally deciding it was nessessary too. Here though you may get it cheaper elsewhere: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
The maximum TDP of the Cooler Master 212 is 180W. That means it can only effectively cool a processor of up-to 180W. The FX-9590 is a 220W processor; your heatsink simply can't keep up with it. I would suggest something like the Corsair H100i.
My i5-2500K has a Hyper 212 EVO on it inside of a HAF X case with a few extra aftermarket fans throughout. My Radeon HD 7970 is the dual dissipation edition with better thermal paste applied.
The Sandy Bridge series is well known for being fantastic for overclocking which is why people were getting them even with the newer chips out. You can just keep pushing them, even on air.
The h80i from corsair is a good choice, runs quite and should keep the CPU nice and cool, however you don't need a liquid cooler for a locked cpu, unless you have the 3770k. If you want a cooler that will keep it cool and quiet with great price/performance look at this hyper 212 evo.
Your choice. I always don't because I'm afraid I'll break something.
If you are not going to over clock get this to save money and get nicer parts. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
What is that led controller?
This is literally always $35 on amazon https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Fmp3FbTDF416B
Do you have any experience with Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and perhaps can compare it to the ID-COOLING SE-224-XT?
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+Evo&qid=1608215291&s=electronics&sr=1-2
I would do a Hyper 212 honestly. Temps will be within 5% of the Noctua, they're just about as quiet, and cost a third of what the Noctuas run.
Ah, right I didn't mention it; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
And I agree - my current A8-5600K went from 3400 to 4300 which turned it from useless to passable. I doubt the difference here will be anywhere near that caliber. I don't overclock for the sake of it - wasting time and electricity + heat for 1fps or 15 seconds off of a render isn't worth it to me.
Having 2 cores meant that I had to gut Windows - often causing bugs I had to fix in the process - and prevented me from running some programs (or required extensive gutting) due to the CPU usage. I'm hoping that going from what seems to be 2 cores to 6 cores with 12 threads and better per core performance will make my every day experiences better in addition to cutting time off of renders and bakes.
And juuuuust maybe I can use the viewport settings that give me a better preview of what's going to be in the final build without turning the area into a furnace while those glorious 15 frames per second are churned out.
NVidia is my go to for this simply because CUDA cores are required for a lot of things + Vega isn't exactly killing it :/
My R9 270 is decent and I'd go to a 1060 if not for the 4K TV, the obvious factor that I'll use / need the extra horse power and VRAM, and my desire to check out VR.. which feels like a societal pressure to have a baby but instead coming from within - I know it's not ready yet and I'll just be disappointed but I'm also kinda tired of waiting, anxious to have experienced it, and could die at any minute because I'm a bike rider xD
Well here is the THING LMAO Shhhhh do not tell anyone.. I ordered one from Amazon Heck I went with a NZXT X42 and MY GOD it was pretty.. Sent my old one back to in my case Coolermaster.. And got it back in under a month.. I then decided to send the NZXT one back because I hated the CAM software.. Pretty sure you can get a ok AIR cooler for under $30 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI
Or something even less.. just as a backup.. Not sure what CPU you have.. But I see them from as low as $12 Your not going to be doing any overclocking on that but it is just to keep you up till you get the Warranty replacement IF that is what they say you need to do.
Do not Get a Cheap Air Cooler until you run through support with Corsair and they tell you to send in for RMA> Then Order something to get you by..
If you can save up for it, I'd do so for the sake of future proofing - you might want higher resolution someday as 1080p is getting old now. If you're sure you have no intention of going above 2550x1600, you can get away with the 1060, save money, and still be prepared enough for the future. Still just get the 6600K, though, if your purpose is gaming. Hyperthreading doesn't get you much for that usage.
On overclocking: No, it's not at all difficult with unlocked chips. Get a half-decent cooler (the 212 evo will do just fine) instead of the stock one, and you should be good to go. You can find plenty of guides online for how to do it, and as long as you don't do anything blatantly stupid you literally cannot break anything.
Yes, however they are also quiet expensive and there are good options for less money. Check out these two for example:
I'd probably go for the good old 212 Evo. They all perform more or less exactly like one another, but the Evo is the cheapest of the bunch.
I was having similar issues. I5 CPU running at 70c when gaming. I replaced the stock CPU fan with this, now running at 50c full load.
Neta, necesitas mas PSU y otro ventilador de cpu. Probably around 700 watts for the psu, you'll want to overclock everything so you will also need much better cooling. Algo como esto
Buena suerte paisa (soy mexicano-americano).
zomg!! this the 4th build in like 12 minutes on this thread with stock cooler. GET AN AFTERMARKET COOLER PLEASE SIR!
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
its 35 bux and its a must, especially with that 4790k.
No worries. Here's a really highly rated fan. It's high quality and well within your budget. Just make sure your case has enough clearance for it, but you won't need to worry with most Mid tower cases and no worries at all if it's a full tower.
All looks pretty good, but there are a few parts where you're definitely paying too much. Liquid cooling isn't necessary unless you're going for the most extreme overclocking, and I mean extreme. The average overclocker will be happy with a Hyper 212 EVO for his FX-8350.
Also, your power supply is way bigger than necessary for a GTX 770, but not enough for SLI if you want to run two of them later. Either tone it down to a PSU like this one or move up to something like this.
Last thing: Don't get the 4GB version of the GTX 770. The memory bus isn't big enough to take advantage of it. You'll be happy with the 2GB version :)
Looks nice! I would recommend getting a cpu cooler like the Hyper 212 EVO.
I have similar idle temps on my PC, and also when I game. Right now I'm just planning on getting a simple Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler here.
PS: Keep on keeping on destiny! As a gold level player, the most valuable lesson I got from your stream was "forget about everything, focus on mechanics". Glhf!
Some suggestions if you are willing to spend a little more:
Don’t know how many times this was posted, but hyper 212 EVO is only 30$
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QhnuAbF8TXGN7
The 9900k is at least 10% better in 99% of games , and u can get a decent air cooler for $30-$40 (like the Hyper 212) not to mention it will be better than AMD’s Wraith cooler. This makes them basically the same price. And depending where you buy it from, the 9900k + cooler is actually cheaper than the 3900x.
The 3900x is the better choice for people who do any type of content creation, multitasking, multiple monitors, etc... but if you’re purely gaming (like me and the majority of gamers) than the 9900k is clearly the better option.
It’s the low/mid range builds that AMD is dominating. The 3600 is incredible for the price. However intel is still king of the high end builds.
I’d also recommend a better CPU cooler than the stock, as they’re usually pretty bad. You can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for $30. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2UFGCELHWCLLW&keywords=212+evo&qid=1554588181&s=gateway&sprefix=212+ev&sr=8-1
Congrats on the new card!
But for the love of god, get a new cpu cooler. I cannot even imagine how loud that fan gets or how hot your cpu gets. You will thank me later
Idk how good are AM4 stock coolers, but if you're going to overclock the CPU, you should get a aftermarket cooler like this https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=cooler+master&qid=1558049360&s=gateway&sr=8-1
I shouldn't be criticizing anyways since my AM3 stock cooler (and my PC in general) are heavy paperweights :)