Hey, I can understand how that frugality mentality can be tough to shake. I struggle with it sometimes too.
What I came here to say, though, was you can get a custom made mouthguard for like $150 on Amazon. It’s made by the same type of lab that your dentist would send it off to to get it made.
How do I know? My dentist wanted to charge me like $650 cause insurance wouldn’t cover a replacement after my first one was old and nasty. Frugal me said heck no and found one that was just as good for a fraction of the cost. FSA covered it too so it was more like $75 :).
Not sure if I can link to a specific product, but PM me if you want the name of it.
EDIT: I’ve gotten tons of PMs for the mouth guard I got from Amazon so I’m gonna say it’s the one by J&S Labs and hope that’s not against forum rules. Who knew mouth guards were so popular ����♂️?
There’s a lower and an upper guard you can buy. I got the upper.
Now we’re all a little closer to FI with perfect teeth to go with it ��.
Exact same thing your dentist will make.
Wife has TMJ. We spent the money on one from the dentist for it to get lost after 6 months. Tried the above from Amazon. My wife has said it is the exact same thing she had.
You make a mold just like the dentist does. You send your mold back and they make a custom mouth guard thats the same quality that you'd get if you went to the dentist. I have a feeling dentists send molds off to these same companies to make mouth guards for them.
FYI: There are labs that cut out the dentist as the middle man and can make you custom night guards for half the price. I did one through Amazon for $130 and have been very happy with it.
I grind through mine pretty hard and it helped save me some $.
Let me make your life!
I used to (and occasionally still do) get really bad canker sores. We're talking inch wide, scar the inside of your mouth pain engines that lasted for weeks.
Nothing worked. Kanka? Yeah, it'd make me feel better for a half hour, then the pain is back. Oralgel goes right in the trash. I worked in a pharmacy, and I tried literally everything.
Then about three years ago during my annual "Oh god this hurts is there anything new on the market that might help" I found a reference to Oralmedic.
The short version, it is uses a chemical desiccant (its basically an acid) at the end of a q-tip to burn the ever loving shit out of whatever it is that is causing your canker sore, and leaves a film over it that prevents further damage. It stings a bit more than the sore itself for about 2-5 seconds, and then that's it. Your sore will start to feel better almost immediately, won't start stinging again and will heal faster. The first time I used one I went from not being able to talk due to pain to feeling mildly inconvenienced by it over the course of a two hour drive.
It has randomized control trials backing it up as effective, and I can sing its praises with the caveat that you must use it as instructed. Double tapping an already burned sore can and will cause damage, so do not fuck around or you may find out. They're like ~$20-30 for a box of three and I cannot recommend them enough to anyone.
Then about three years ago during my annual "Oh god this hurts is there anything new on the market that might help" I found a reference to Oralmedic.
Wife has TMJ and she was told to get one. We got one from the dentist and spent to much. Wife lost it after a few months. Second one we ordered from Amazon. It was the exact same quality as what the dentist made. I swear the dentist just sends it to these same companies to make.
Along with the suggestions below to shop around the price, there is great company on Amazon that will send you a mold kit and then after you send it back they send you a mouthguard and your mold back for future use.
It isn't available in the US market without an Rx, you have two options. You can spend $$$ and buy the Irish/EU one on amazon like I did, you'll get in 3 or 4 days in the US.
Or you can spend $ and buy the one distributed out of of Hong Kong from an ebay seller.
The ironic thing is they're both made in the US!
The only issue I had with the hong kong version is the shipping would have taken up to 2 weeks, bu I have some on order now to keep on hand for next time.
$20 a dose is stupid expensive.
The other option is to find a GOOD local compounding pharmacy. Chain stores, even the one that offer compounding, have been awful in my experience.
Just wanted to throw this product out there for anyone who deals with canker sores (as I get them a lot (like 5+ a month)). These are a life saver; one time use on each sore in your mouth and the pain is gone in literally seconds. Promise! I’ve tried everything — magic mouthwash, peroxide mouthwash, alum powder, numbing agents. It costs a bit, but it’s pennies compared to the pain canker sores creates without it.
Oralmedic Mouth Ulcer and Canker Sore Treatment, Instant Pain Relief - Pack of 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_15DQJN679ZG4CNB1HF9Y?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I'm on board with that amount! If you're close to losing your sanity get yourself some debacterol or oralmedic. Chemically cauterize those hell spawn. Good luck!
UGH that one looks sooooo painful!!!! 🥺
Debactoral or oralmedic !!!!!!!
Oralmedic Mouth Ulcer and Canker Sore Treatment, Instant Pain Relief - Pack of 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_TRPA2A69G19CEGBTX9AB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Link to basically what I have, not sure why my dentist called it a chewy but he did say to use it like what you have. I like it, it seats the trays and is kind of soothing lol.
Damn. That looks painful.
I have not tried it myself, but you can try Oralmedic.
Keep in mind, this chemically cauterizes the sore, so it will hurt like hell, but the good folks on this sub recommend it--I'm paraphrasing, but the word is that once you get past the initial burn, the pain stops and the sore is gone almost the next day.
Have you tried Oralmedic? It’s literally the only thing that’s ever stopped my canker sores in it’s tracks. Definitely a game changer. Hurts like hell for 10-30 seconds. Swells up for a few hours. Pain-free within like 15 mins give or take.
You’re so welcome. I hope it works for you in the short term anyway. I’ve had to use this type in a pinch when I’ve gone on trips and forgot to pack my guard: https://www.amazon.com/Plackers-Grind-Dental-Night-Grinding/dp/B004TD23W2 they work ok but not nearly as good or comfortable as The Doctors one. Just have to really follow the instructions AND give yourself time to get used to wearing it.
They make “one size” mouth guards that might work? I haven’t tried them with braces, so I can’t speak to how well all the extra gear fits in ones mouth though. I once bought like a 30 pack at CVS, but here’s an example. Night Guards
A dentist said the same thing to me.. except he was trying to sell me an expensive surgery instead.
I found a different solution. These are dirt cheap and each one lasts me months https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TD23W2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I wanted to share the following here just in case anyone needed the information. We couldn't afford a mouth guard because out of pocket was going to be $500. But the lab that I linked sends you the mould kit to do yourself and then you send it back to them. They make the bite guard (we went with 3mm thick for each of us) and send it back to you and they are really good about fixing issues if there is an issue with the mould or something. This is $130 for one bite guard. (We bought one for each of us.) For my partner, this was a must have because she grinds at night while she's sleeping and was waking up with head pain.
And we do use CBD too. That does help in a lot of ways with the chronic illness and mental health stuff that we deal with.
I've said this elsewhere in this thread. Amazon sells the exact same mouth guard your dentist makes. The dentist my wife went to told us they have to send off the molds to get them made. I swear its the same company below.
I got this mouthguard several years ago and it’s been great.
It was also suggested to me from a dentist to use one hot and one cold ice pack on my jaw for 4 minutes, switching them every 30 seconds. I did this for a bit but I can’t say if it helped.
This is the mouthguard I use. I tried a few styles before settling on this one. I've been using them for years. I used to wear threw them within a couple months but now after a few months I don't see more than a couple bite marks.
I learned how to relax all my muscles before sleeping, particularly in my mouth and face. I used sleep meditations with a body scan, which is basically someone using a calming voice, telling me how to relax each muscle/muscle group.
Everyone else has mentioned a lot of good stuff but I will add that bruxism can be a symptom of iron deficiency.
I bought one at my local pharmacy OTC... You put it in hot water and mold it to your teeth. I think mine was about $40 CAD ... My dentist recommended I try to sleep with one in for a while before paying for a custom one to make sure I can sleep with something in my mouth. I found it bulky, but haven't gotten the custom yet as it is about 10x the price.
Something like this: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0036WTV2C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_zPAUFbPXV6NY0
Yeah I think it is pretty different. I got this one: JS Dental Lab Custom Dental Night Guard, Sleep Mouth Guard for Teeth Grinding, Bruxism & TMJ Relief - Upper Bite Guard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0769YSBNX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TKKhFbM4A3D1D
It meant to be used exclusively for sleeping, so it’s pretty comfortable. Takes a few nights to get used to though.
I've been suffering with about 15 on my tongue, complete inability to eat or sleep for 4 days, reached wits end, found this subreddit. The top 10 tips recommend a product called "Debactorl" which you can only get with a prescription. However if you are able to order from outside the US, you can use a product called "OralMedic." I used it for the first time yesterday, it is just an off brand Debactrol
The pain was immense, like one of the worst things I've ever felt, but I was desperate.
The result? I slept 12 hours last night. I ate food. I can drink today. I have 5 left to deal with, and I have ordered 2 more batches of it.
I very very very strongly recommend it for desperate situations:
I do that too! I think its more related to my anxiety than ADHD, and it tends to get a lot worse the more stressed I am. Didn't realize how bad it was until my boyfriend recorded what it sounded like LOL.
It's actually really bad for your teeth and jaw though, so I would recommend investing in disposable mouth guards like these. They're not as good as the mouth guard you mold yourself but I am a) to lazy to do that and b) lose them anyway so this is a much better alternative.
Not much... I can't find any research that says anything about TMJ directly causes fatigue (through poor sleep). Anecdotally I've talked with lots of people who claim they sleep much better with their mouth guard...and a dentist I recently saw suggest that even a regular mouth guard could help with apnea (not sure if this is true).
If you have TMJ and are willing to try out a cheap mouthguard you can find out pretty quickly if it has any effect I'd say:
That's the one my dentist recommended.
I love these “night guards” because I can wear them during the day when I am stressed, studying, or writing, and once you get used to it people don’t even notice it’s there. Also, their relatively cheap, individually packaged, and disposable, so you can keep one in your backpack/purse/glove compartment for when you need it.
Anxiety doesn't just cause your jaw clenching - it robs you of quality sleep as well. I tell you this because even if you address your jaw clenching, the anxiety can still rob you of Deep, Rem, and total hours slept every night.
In short, you need to get help with your anxiety.
In the meantime, if you want to quickly address the jaw clenching, give these a try (you can get them at Walmart). But, know you are addressing the symptoms, not the problem.
You can also try a low profile bite guard, like these: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B004TD23W2
Or full-size mouth guard. Or a prescription mouth guard.
Teeth grinding or jaw clenching is called bruxism and there’s many causes for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruxism
From all the soft ones I've tried, this one is the most comfortable one for me https://www.amazon.com/Plackers-Grind-Dental-Night-Grinding/dp/B004TD23W2/ref=sr\_1\_14?crid=1PLODZ6J0K5XI&keywords=stop+grinding&qid=1654059870&rdc=1&sprefix=stop+grindin%2Caps%2C286&sr=8-14
Headaches before treatment, definitely - a lack of oxygen does that and I'd say one of the best things about treatment was not waking up with a splitting headache.
With treatment? No headaches. I do have neck pain on occasion, but that's related to sleeping funny not sleep apnea. Do you clench your jaw and grind your teeth? If so, that's the culprit. Try these.
Get yourself some of these.
Also, if you have an overbight, be careful not to clench so hard that you pop off one of your lower brackets with your front teeth. Ask me how I know this is possible.
I was initially given bite blocks which are blue things on my teeth to stop me from biting my brackets but I ended up grinding them off. I asked if I could have more added so I didn’t grind (they were big enough to where I couldn’t bite my back molars when I close my mouth) and they were so hesitant to put more on it was so annoying. I ended buying these things at Walmart and I only used them at night, I’ll go back to wearing them at night once I grind off my bite blocks again. You don’t have to mold them which is what I wanted since I don’t wanna do all that tbh lol DenTek , Comfort-Fit Dental Guard For Nighttime Teeth Grinding, 2 count (Packaging May Vary) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002WTCK4Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_CGCQ5B4SF695E3WT6J67?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Adjustable night guard that doesn’t harm back teeth DenTek , Comfort-Fit Dental Guard For Nighttime Teeth Grinding, 2 count (Packaging May Vary) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002WTCK4Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_MNNA5ZHDPJHG3YZQ3CF0
In the meantime, a quick fix could be these:
Plackers Grind No More Dental Night Guard for Teeth Grinding, Blue 10 Count https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B004TD23W2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_M55ESQBXX7B1X73MC2BP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
They are soft. Not perfect, but they do reduce the pressure of grinding. I would only recommend that you try to wait to put them on until you are really about to fall asleep. Otherwise, they may trigger grinding while you lie awake because they activate your chewing reflex.
Bite guards are like mouth guards but just for the biting part. You can get them for pretty cheap, and some are intended to be used for only a few nights, and others until they break. I use these intermittently at night:
I'm sorry Debacterol isn't available for you!
What about Oralmedic? Would that be available in Norway?
Oralmedic stopped the pain from my canker sore immediately! If it is available to ship to Norway, then I highly recommend it!
This one worked really well for me. It's still $129, but cheaper than 500. It's a kit that you mold to your teeth, then mail in the mold and they send you back the guard.
Fits SO much better than the ones your heat up at home and mold yourself. Much thinner, and more durable so they won't warp over time and shift your teeth like the really cheap ones do.
I use these, they are basically just a bit of plastic between your upper and lower molars, so not a full guard. That should work with braces, too:
Plackers Grind No More Dental Night Guard for Teeth Grinding, 16 Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM8FXMX/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_3JK0M3JX2PD83TYG3N8W
Sounds like you’re juggling a lot! Migraines suck ass, pardon my French & frankness. I’m glad you’ve had some luck with the pillow.
I have TMJ issues and they absolutely tie into my migraines. I purchased an ice wrap from Amazon (yeah Bezos is the devil, but it sounds like we both have store accessibility issues with migraines + the baby for you, so I think it’s worth it!) that’s marketed for post-wisdom teeth surgery & I put it on as soon as I feel any jaw or ear pain. It’s got 4 ice packs, you use two at a time. It’s helped a ton with my migraine frequency, but I really have to get it on there asap before the pain spreads much.
As for mouth guards, my dentist recommended The Doctor’s Nightguard as a non-prescription option. It’s the most comfortable and stays put the best I’ve found out of all the over the counter night guards I’ve tried.
I put a little piece of breathable medical tape over my lips to keep things in because I’m a mouth breather at night.
I use these right now but other brands make them too. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM8FXMX/
You can use them on the top or the bottom and they loop around the front teeth so no risk of choking on them.
I find they are really helpful for clenching too, which I find I do more now that I have the aligners.
This is a bit costly but check out: Oralmedic Mouth Ulcer and Canker Sore Treatment, Instant Pain Relief (2 treatments swabs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_1N860463K5EBQ5V0C3W4
It could help make those heal quicker.
Also if youre interested in a prevantative method, chexk out: https://www.cankershield.com/
You also mentioned that you get them often so I also recommend taking vitamins everyday or every other day. I take l-lysine, b12, omega 3, zinc, and vitamin D. There are other vitamins typically mentioned in this sub too. Do some reading on which vitamins may be useful to you.
The combination of these 3 plus using a sls free toothpaste has significantly reduce the frequency and severity of my ulcers.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you have a speedy recovery.
(I too was pleasantly shocked that I could use the nasal only. Allergies were always so bad, I assumed that was not a possibility.)
I tried the chin-strap and couldn't use it. (Lips still blew out.)
I went to a Night Guard (for Bruxism, "Night Teeth Grinding", which I do NOT have.)
But, just having that to bite on, (and keep the tongue back inside) seems to seal it all up well.
If the chin strap doesn't work for you, give one a try.
I've tried a few, this is the one I keep coming back to: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002WTCK4Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is a bit costly for two applications but it's suppose to help seal canker sores: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_ZNW03EH71GB1X27DZ01V
You could try this too if you wanted more options.
I get cankers fairly often and the only medicine that works is this:
Oralmedic Mouth Ulcer and Canker Sore Treatment, Instant Pain Relief (2 treatments swabs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KPAMX4ZTFCZKRP3M184X
Literally stings for 3 seconds and then it covers and you’re completely cured
Also it might just be a coincidence but i used it for the first time like 5 months ago and haven’t gotten another one since
Not on adderall, but I have a serious problem with clenching/grinding my teeth. I use a mouthguard/retainer, there are clear fairly soft ones for daytime use. This is the brand I use:
enCore Guards - Custom Dental Night Guard/Mouth Guard for Protection Against Teeth Grinding/Clenching/Bruxism and TMJ Relief - One (1) Guard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074TXB5V5/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_CTACXZKPSEART9HRNH4Z
Since you’re at this point, can I recommend something that worked for me? I posted about this way back in January when I first got it.
I found that these mouth guards (actually meant to prevent clenching) are available in very thin materials, so they’re not intrusive, and you can speak clearly while wearing them. The one I’m linking to is expensive, but IMO totally worth it. You can wear these in public and talk to people and no one will notice it!
I started using these in January 2021, and have been able to kill my nail-biting 100%!
You can use any type of sport mouth guard, I don’t think a small one would hurt their teeth too much vs the grinding.
I’ve had ADHD my entire life and always grinded, I sleep with just a normal small size sport mouth piece.
They do have these though which might fit a kids mouth better
I grind my teeth all night. My ortho OK’d my use of these, they help a ton.
Plackers Grind No More Dental Night Guard for Teeth Grinding, Blue 10 Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TD23W2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_W8FGHPTVZPSY6DPRT9AX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
These are my absolute go to in order to quickly heal a sore:
In terms of long term prevention:
Avoid spicy, acidic, and any food that you realize provokes you. For me, that includes alcohol. Keep a jouranl of food sensitivities.
Vitamins to try taking:
2000mg of l-lysine
2000mg omega 3
1000 mcg b12
100 mg zinc
I used to get them consecutively for months at a time. Im down to 1 or 2 a month.
Hope any of this helps. Good luck stranger. Stay strong.
I purchased a guard off of Amazon. A dental lab sends me a kit, I take my own impression, once it's approved I send it back to them, and they'll send me back a custom guard. I ended up buying another one as a backup when they e-mailed me a discount code, and a thin daytime guard just in case I need to wear something at work.
If anyone else is like me and gave in the full coverage models, these work pretty well, and you can sometimes find them at the dollar store.
This is the one I have that was recommended to me by someone on Reddit. Expensive but it lasts for years
I feel so deeply sorry for you. I have this issue a couple times a year. I recently healed from an episode. My most immediate advice is seek a medical professional that can prescribe methylpredisone or predisone. Most doctors will hiss and fuss before they provide it. Demand it. Or find a doctor who will actually listen to your needs.
The follow advice for immediate relief is: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EQ76D3BZCG57S402W8JE
It's basically debacterol. Get 2 of these. It's unfortunately a tad bit pricey, but the pain is more costly imo.
Before I used the oralmedic, I would use:
Again, a cost that adds up, but again, I was so fed up and desperately tried anything otc. And it helped.
Canker Shield dries your mouth while supposedly providing necessary healing nutrients. The dried out mouth allowed me to use oralmedic more efficiently.
If you need something even more immediate, buy Alum Powder from a grocery store. Place it on then ulcers and it dehydrates them. This allows a scab-like layer and a quicker healing process.
And finally, antiseptic mouthwash that does not contain sls.
All of these feel awful during initial usage, but after the pain subsides and you rinse your mouth with water, the deep stings and aches are dulled.
This is all the things I've found useful for myself. Do note that it fucks up the ph balance in your mouth and oral thrush becomes a thing.
I feel so awful for you. I really hope you find a moment of peace soon.
All of these hurt
Heads up, if you want to try a nice custom mouth guard without spending $500-700 at the dentist, I found this great one on Amazon:
JS Dental Lab Custom Dental Night... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0769YSBNX?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Just a lie. You can find some you mold yourself in hot water but they also have some that are less invasive that just protect your molars. My fiance uses them
IMOH, salting a wound only dries it. And drying it out is a temporary measure.
You want to cauterize it, as doing so will create a "scab" that will seal it off.
Use alum powder, available from the store.
Alternatively, try CankerShield, which contains alum and many other ingredients that are vital for the healing part.
An expensive but OTC option is OralMedic
The same thing as OralMedic is Debacterol, but it's only available through prescription.
Lastly, if you're getting frequent canker sores then it's possible you are deficient in certain amino acids and vitamins, namely Vitamin B-12 and Lysine.
I could go on a long rant about why this is, but the TLDR is canker sores is an out-of-control immune system response, which is suppressed by sufficient Lysine and B-12. You can do a google search for those research papers.
You might be deficient in certain vitamins and minerals. There are several posts / comments about taking Vitamin B-12 (found in multivitamin gummies) and lysine supplements (pill form) that prevent canker sores from breaking out. This would have to be a change in your daily life where you are taking these supplements daily.
I'd also suggest avoiding spicy and acidic foods (like berries).
This change for me has come to a point where biting my lip results in no canker sore 9 out of 10 times.
In the meantime, you can try OralMedic, Kanka, or even CankerShield to help with your current sore.
If the chin stap doesn't work for you, try one of the mouth guards for bruxism (night teeth grinding). Something about having that to bite down on keeps my mouth closed enough to overcome at least up to 14 pressure. Like this one: AmazonSmile : DenTek, Comfort-Fit Dental Guard For Nighttime Teeth Grinding, 2 count (Packaging May Vary) : Anti Grinding Teeth Protectors : Beauty
Try this miracle product. It's over the counter debacterol. Relieves pain almost instantly, permanently. Chemically cauterizes the hell spawn. Good luck
I’m not a dentist, but I’m in a similar situation to yours (probably worse, actually, because I also need braces and possibly jaw surgery). My teeth were in such bad condition that a dentist referred me to a dental school for a full mouth rehabilitation. I was on a waiting list for a year before they called me in for a consultation. My dental insurance will only pay out $1k a year, so the dental school was the only way to make the rehabilitation affordable for me. It’s still a lot of money, but it’s MUCH less expensive than the alternative options. So far, I’ve been receiving very good treatment at the school. The students receive lots of training before they are allowed to do clinical work and they’re very careful because their work is constantly being checked by a teacher.
You’re taking good care of your teeth now and that’s wonderful! You can also protect them from further wear by using a night guard. This is a custom night guard by J&S Dental which I purchased a couple of times. They fit me perfectly and did a good job protecting my teeth, the customer service was good, and they are relatively inexpensive. $130. (My dentist quoted me $700 and the insurance company I had at the time wouldn’t cover a dime of it.)
Don’t give up! Your situation is not hopeless! You were dealt a lousy hand and unfortunately you can’t change the past, but you can take steps to prevent things from getting worse while you research your options and save up for repair work. Always remember, you are so much more than your teeth. You’re a bright and valuable person who’s worthy of love and care, so you must treat yourself that way even if no one else does.
Dentists can make these but they will charge you $700!
I found this mail-in service on Amazon that does the exact same thing but for $130. They'll send you a kit with everything you need to make the mold of your upper jaw (bottom is an option, too). Once made, just send it in (pre-paid mail envelope is included). Got mine in about a week.
I bought a night guard from J and S dental lab on Amazon link I got the heaviest duty option and it has lasted almost two years and I’m a pretty intense clenched.
So two of them were custom made by my dentist. I have a full hard guard for my bottom teeth and an Invisalign/vivera retainer guard for the top teeth. The third is a full hard guard for my top teeth that I ordered from J&S Dental Lab. Basically they send you a kit to make an impression of your teeth, then you send it back to them and they use it to make a custom guard. It’s much cheaper than the ones from the dentist, and the quality is pretty similar.
Unfortunately, I’ve never had much luck with the generic guards available at the pharmacy, and I’ve tried a bunch of them.
These things have served me well for the last couple of years. I should just buy a proper one, but....
I don't understand why everyone on this sub tells people to get a prescription for debacterol. This is debacterol: https://www.amazon.com/Oralmedic-Mouth-Ulcer-Treatment-Healthcenter/dp/B0015X5ZW4/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-rsf-lq2a1_0?cv_ct_cx=oralmedic&dchild=1&keywords=oralmedic&pd_rd_i=B0015X5ZW4&pd_rd_r=11dcb3db-f078-4ab1-aa57-81ae027d468c&pd_rd_w=qpP0t&pd_rd_wg=lakwr&pf_rd_p=52f9c563-bb87-44f4-9d9d-e1c03402d90f&pf_rd_r=FK9WWBEM3SZ52KDC7AAX&psc=1&qid=1608915787&sr=1-1-d3e58e83-6458-471c-a87e-175495b96a10
The thing that's made the biggest difference for me has been improving my sleep quality. Here are some tips:
If this is a problem for you, can you maybe try a guard that doesn't conform to your teeth? I use Placker's Grind No More (I clench, not grind). It helps a lot and fits easily in my mouth. The downside is that the two spots where your back teeth meet with the guard are definitely more sore than the others in the morning because they are receiving the totality of the pressure.
I recommend getting a mouthguard. It sucks but the benefits of Zoloft outweigh the inconvenience of wearing one, at least for me. Here’s the one I recommend! Mouthguard
If you just grind your teeth, dentists hate this and I'm gonna be down voted, but you can go on amazon and get it done.
Just make sure if you start to have jaw aches or other aches, to stop wearing it and get it checked by a dentist.
Use the thin ones. Don't boil the water in the microwave though, do it over the stove. You'll be happier with the results. Use the thinnest ones.
Be really careful with this. If you can at all wiggle your teeth, don't do it. I got one of those guards that you boil (which is the type you should get if you do go for one, btw) but I had very early gum disease without realizing it at the time. It majorly changed my bite and made my TMJ way worse.
If you are doing over the counter because of money, perhaps consider a direct from manufacturer guard? You send them the mold and they make you the quality of guard that you would usually get at the dentist. They're the same people your dentist buys them from (virtually no one makes them on premises) and you're just eliminating the charge from the middle man. You could get this one for $130 from a well rated source.
Our bites do tend to be a bit off, so they do recommend that you get the 3D mouth guard. That is $219. A LOT more money, I know! But what they're doing is instead of just taking a mold of your upper teeth, they take an additional mold of the bottom and utilize the combination to design the guard to compensate for any uneven bite pressure.
I know this is a lot, but most dentists will ask bare minimum $500 for a mouth guard if you're lucky, so you're shaving a lot off. And WOW a legit mouth guard has made SO much difference for me!
Yea while writing my comment it did really feel like I was selling this product lmao. I thought about making a video showing my canker sores as proof. But I'm just so happy ANYTHING is working at this point and I wanted to share my enthousiasm and amazement.
This is Amazon's page for the product, and lots of reviews will tell you the same thing I did.
That is genius! I use packers, which are low profile, but even that made him gag because it was back in his mouth. This could actually work for him.
I got the semi-hard version but you can pick the different types and upper or lower teeth
Thank you for your suggestion. How about this guard that doesn't do molding?
I'm just gonna throw that option out there, but before getting a dentist night guard I bought one on Amazon, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Advanced-NightGuard-Protector-Nighttime/dp/B0036WTV2C. You heat it initially and then bite in it to fit your teeth. It was pretty alright, a bit bulkier than the dentist night guard and more chewable which is not as great for bruxism. Per my dentist, the professional night guard is harder, and doesn't encourage chewing do may tried mess your teeth/jaws and I kinda agree. It's pretty cheap though so could be an option. Otherwise I can't remember how much my dentist night guard was, but I've had the same for 6 years so far. The dentist checks the fit every visit (once or twice a year) and so far not change so it can last a while.
So I have occasional issues with grinding my teeth or clenching my jaw while sleeping and these are the guards I use. They’re super low profile and don’t feel like normal bite guards at all. Idk where you’re at but Amazon has them for me. They’re called the Grind No More, Disposables by Plackers and I love them. They might help.
Check out 'The Doctors night guard" $29 on Amazon. I get mine from Walmart.
I get these guys: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003GDKH9C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_jpLnCbV9CW9YA
At first I was really worried about swallowing them but they worked great. I spit one out by accident about once a week but I have definitely noticed a reduction in headaches and neck tightness which were my major grinding issues.
I bought this one and I like it more than the last one I had made in a dentist's office. The cheaper ones are definitely way better than nothing (I wear mine religiously), but this one has lasted a long time and is super comfortable.
Anyone who can't afford a mouth guard, try these. I originally found them at the dollar store.
Didn't have much luck with the straps. Get one of the mouth guard things for bruxism (teeth grinding). I don't grind mine, but somehow, having that to bite on, kept my tongue in my mouth and allows me to keep it shut/sealed (at pressure 14). Like this one https://smile.amazon.com/DenTek-Comfort-Fit-Dental-Guard/dp/B002WTCK4Q/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1498043913&sr=8-3&keywords=dentek%2Bmouth%2Bguard&th=1
My orthodontist said she can't help with that, so that I ended up using this: https://www.amazon.com/DenTek-Comfort-Fit-Dental-Guard/dp/B002WTCK4Q
I feel very nervous about using it, but well... One of my canine teeth is already flat, and I'm tired of jaw pain caused by grinding.
I haven't been diagnosed with TMJ or anything but I definitely grind my teeth at night, have awful headaches all the time, and often wake up with tightness in my jaw and neck. I've used mouthguards at night for years. The only ones I'd reccommend are these since they're really small and you wouldn't notice you were wearing it after a little while: https://www.amazon.com/DenTek-Comfort-Fit-Dental-Guard/dp/B002WTCK4Q/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1487231612&sr=8-2&keywords=dentek+mouth+guard
Don't know if you already got one from the dentist, but for anyone else try Placker's Grind No Mores. They look like they couldn't possibly work like a full mouth guard, but they do and they're completely comfortable because of how small they are.
I had the same issue where I couldn't stand the full mouth guards and they would immediately alter my bite for hours after I woke up. Was very skeptical of the Plackers, but they do prevent you from grinding your teeth together and they're so inconspicuous that you could even keep them in during the day and still talk, drink, etc.
You can buy it at Amazon.ca:
It seems expensive but I'm not sure what's the normal retail price.
Also if your situation is really bad you can go to the dentist and they will spray the affected area for you (not sure if all dentists do this).
Make sure you keep your lips hydrated and exfoliated so that they don't get dry, that way there's nothing to peel off. A lip scrub might be a good investment, OR, you could diy your own by melting a half-used lip balm in a bowl in the microwave, adding white sugar, then smooshing it into a tube or container. Rub it on your lips, and they will be smooth, hydrated, and you can't peel them.
You might want to try those disposable thin mouth guards to chew on throughout the day, they're pretty innocuous and will restrict your jaw slightly so that you can't chew on other parts of your mouth. You could put them in when you're idle and you know you won't be talking to anyone. You'll be able to chew the guard though, and since they come in a big pack, it's no big deal.
Plackers Grind No More Dental Night Protector, 14 Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003GDKH9C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jzPbyb5GZ4N1Q
This is worse...
Heya, my previous dentist (Sparkle Dental at Novena) charges around there or slightly cheaper depending on the material used so I was thinking of going back to him, just that his waiting list is a few months long :(
anyway glad to hear you got yours sorted! I still find $500 pretty steep for something I'm going to end up chewing away. A friend of mine helped me find this which I'll try in the meantime: http://www.amazon.com/Doctors-NightGuard-Advanced-Protector-Grinding/dp/B0036WTV2C
Not sure if it's any good, but I plan to try it while I'm on the waitlist for my dentist :)
I have bruxism issues (nighttime tooth grinding.) And have really messed up my teeth because of it (along with TMJ issues). I wear these at night and feel like they help a ton. http://www.amazon.com/Plackers-Mouth-Guard-Dental-Protector/dp/B003GDKH9C