{"product":{"product_id":"1634312023","title":"Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody","price":"13.99","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41M+anda69L._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/1634312023"},"comments":[{"body":"Just bought Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay's book the other day!\r\n\r\n[Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023/)\r\n\r\nIt also comes in Kindle and Audible audiobook too.","subreddit_name":"SuperStraight","author":"Random-Rambling"},{"body":"For those that want a fair analysis of CRT and other contemporary frameworks like it, check out the book [Cynical Theories](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3O2O5AZTJO6XK\u0026amp;dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=cynical+theories\u0026amp;qid=1624534665\u0026amp;sprefix=cynical%2Caps%2C177\u0026amp;sr=8-1) by Pluckrose and Lindsay. They do an excellent job of describing the underpinning philosophy behind these movements and take care to point out some of the things CRT and the like actually do get right. \r\n\r\nThose of you who think you have a good grasp on CRT would do well to check it out so you can have a more grounded understanding in the philosophy behind it.\r\n\r\nThose of you who are critical of CRT would do well to check it out so you can actually know what you’re critiquing and not just throw around criticism so casually.","subreddit_name":"msu","author":"HelenWilsonMSU"},{"body":"Oh, real quick, if you ever want to take a dive into the ideology I'm talking about without sitting down to a very boring helping of critical theory textbooks there's finally a digestible book on the topic [here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1634312023/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;psc=1).\r\n\r\nI've got a degree in that sorta crap (god forgive me) and it's nice to finally be able to point people to something singular rather than rant about French assholes and semiotics. It's not a perfect book on the topic, but it's close enough I think.","subreddit_name":"KansasCityChiefs","author":"for_a_girl"},{"body":"Non, sinon la CAQ ne serait jamais au pouvoir. J'ai lu [Cynical Theories](https://www.amazon.ca/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023), je suis moi-même anciennement formé en sciences sociales, et l'extrême gauche à laquelle tu fais référence n'est pas au pouvoir. Il faudrait pour que cela survienne que QS soit élu. Heureusement, c'est loin d'être le cas.   \r\n\r\n\r\nMême le parti libéral ne va pas aussi loin. Et si tu regardes les partis élus dans les provinces canadiennes, très peu adhèrent à ces idées. Il ne faut pas confondre \"les gens qui chialent bruyamment\" et le parti au pouvoir.","subreddit_name":"QuebecLibre","author":"Intrepid_School_5402"},{"body":"\u0026gt;This is a super important topic to me that I feel really strongly about, because it's literally how the world around us actively works and oppresses people all around us in day to day things. I really cannot understand being so willingly ignorant about it.\r\n\r\nIt isn't literally how the world around us actively works, though. The ideas you're talking about are assertions made by a political religion, not a theory of how reality actually works. Descriptions of reality are known as 'scientific theories'. But the ideas you're passionate about come from various [Critical Theories](https://www.amazon.com/dp/1634312023)\r\n\r\nCritical Theories imagine a utopia and then criticize everything that doesn't fit in with that utopic vision, thinking that if they criticize all the bad things, then only the good will remain, leaving humanity liberated from oppression. It's just rebranded Marxism, but instead of class it's about various identity categories within sexuality, gender, and race. \r\n\r\nSince it's just Marxism rebranded, it won't work. But in the process of finding that out, a lot of relationships will be damaged by people who have a need to think of themselves as \"a good person\" (\u0026lt;--this is you).\r\n\r\n\r\n\u0026gt;The thing is, this isn't a reflection of all of his attitudes - he is inclusive of everyone in practice and he would acknowledge and condemn most -ist behaviour that he became aware of happening to his loved ones. He just doesn't believe any of it is systemic and isn't interested in learning more.\r\n\r\nSo he's kind to people in actual practice, but has a different mental model of how the world works? How can you justify giving him a hard time for being kind in reality but without believing in the same exact concepts as you?","subreddit_name":"TwoXChromosomes","author":"SorryDadImGay"},{"body":"Yes, there’s an awesome book called [Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023/ref=nodl_). Get it on audible or read the physical book. They really break down what’s going down from a liberal perspective into this social justice, aka “woke” perspective and how it got to this point. Has plenty of citations from the primary sources from the social justice literature. Please read it and spread the good word on the fundamentals of the social justice philosophy so understand what it’s about. I see a lot of people saying the same tropes about wokism but they don’t really know what the literature on it is saying","subreddit_name":"JoeRogan","author":"Crow6714"},{"body":"Just because you want to play the whole \"My side's shit doesn't stink\" like a true believer doesn't mean there isn't a huge pile of it. Doesn't take much to hit up the activist spaces IRL and see it's all the same jockeying for power and sorting people into sinners and saints based on what they can't change. Or the same \"do as I say and not as I do\" from the powerful of both right and left. \r\n\r\nTotally recommend [Cynical Theories](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023) by a team of academics who successfully demonstrated the extent of groupthink and ideological lockstep in the humanities, a They are NOT right wing and that's clear. However, they exposed some huge issues and people got butthurt.","subreddit_name":"MawInstallation","author":"Allronix1"},{"body":"Ditto.\r\n\r\nIt's not me that has changed my values, it's that \"woke\" culture postmodernist idiots are drinking the Critical Theory Kool-Aid and throwing common sense out the window.\r\n\r\n[Here's a good book on the topic](https://www.amazon.ca/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023).","subreddit_name":"canada","author":"espomar"},{"body":"I can not overstate how eye opening it is to read the book [Cynical Theories](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023) on this subject. You should also follow a lecture on post-modernism by Stephen Hicks.","subreddit_name":"SocialJusticeInAction","author":"winstonsmithwatson"},{"body":"\u0026gt;the idea that anything can be unnatural is a human theoretical construct\r\n\r\nOf course. Just like the whole of reality is a human theoretical construct. Critical Theory is anti-rational, anti-philosophical drivel.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity/dp/1634312023","subreddit_name":"Permaculture","author":"anthropoz"},{"body":"Maybe you should read this...so you can keep up with the conversation.\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OGXC8HFJACWX\u0026amp;dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=cynical+theories\u0026amp;qid=1613508696\u0026amp;sprefix=cynical%2Caps%2C232\u0026amp;sr=8-1","subreddit_name":"AskReddit","author":"pug_grama2"},{"body":"\u0026gt;I can already hear some men shrugging this kind of findings off and saying it’s all bs. Wouldn’t be surprised\r\n\r\nMaybe that is because people like you have spent the last few years making absolutely everything about gender and race, so now nobody takes anything you say seriously any more. It's called \"crying wolf.\"\r\n\r\n[Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender and Identity -- And Why This Harms Everybody](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity/dp/1634312023)\r\n\r\n#","subreddit_name":"climatechange","author":"anthropoz"},{"body":"Not sure what you are saying. We are still waiting for a workers revolution in Europe.\r\n\r\nThe problem with CT isn't its predictive failures, but its basic disengagement with realism. It is intentionally dishonest. [This](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity/dp/1634312023), basically.","subreddit_name":"stupidpol","author":"anthropoz"},{"body":"hey thanks.  i'm currently reading [this book](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023) as a counterpoint to all the critical theory stuff (which, it claims, is based on post-modern thought) i've seen seeping into popular dialogue.  it's obviously biased, but i'm wondering if \"real\" philosophers would take issue with it?  kinda how ayn rand is a joke in philosophical circles.","subreddit_name":"philosophy","author":"generalT"},{"body":"I maybe will. I actually read one about Ethnicity and family therapy from Monica McGoldrick. I suggest you to read [Cynical Theories.](https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023) Just so you can learn where all people (and yes, we exist) that oppose this kind of view are mistaken. \r\n\r\n\u0026amp;#x200B;\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; This frightens me. \r\n\r\nYou shouldn't be frightened by other ways of thinking. After all, you work with people and there are all kind of people and we ain't orcs that have only one opinion on complex matter, nor you are so smart that you solved the World most complex questions so you know the only truth (and I ain't one also lol).","subreddit_name":"psychotherapy","author":"TheGameYouLostIt"}]}