What is Reddit's opinion of Dear Zealots: Letters from a Divided Land?

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>1.i hate israel but not jews

Israelis are, in general, amazing people. And the two things kind of go hand in hand: Israel is the only nation that is a Jewish nation. This is open to debate, of course, but that's my point of view.

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>2.second they have a right to be shocked Israel is killing thousands if not millions

I think you need to be suspicious about where you're getting these numbers from. Europe killed millions of Jews in less than a 5-year span, definitely. Israel is not killing millions of people. (an interesting fact is that the IDF actually has a lower civilian-to-combatant kill ratio than NATO militaries did in WW2, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq).

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>3.well if you want people to stop people arguing for the removal of Israel then argue with those when it comes to the removal of Palestine

Anyone who argues for the removal of Palestinians is just as bad as those that call for the removal of Israelis, no doubt.

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>4.what two state solution with what borders and will Arabs be given land in Jeruslam?

Read a short book by Amos Oz, if you have the time. It's called Dear Zealots. The third section summarizes my belief in the Two State solution.In general, 1967 borders, and addressing, one way or another, the Right of Return. I don't pretend to have worked out all the details, but I do believe it's the only moral, and practical, way forward.

u/thebigcheen thank you for sharing your views with us.

I think you would like the work of Amos Oz, maybe start with Dear Zealots.
In his words:

>My Zionist point of departure, for decades now, has been a simple one: we [the Jews]] are not alone in this land. We are not alone in Jerusalem. I say the same thing to my Palestinian friends: you are not alone in this land. [...] If someone from either side of the Israeli-Palestinian divide comes along and says, 'This is my land,' he is right. But if someone says, 'This land, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, is all mine and only mine,' then he is out for blood.

Zionism, in my eyes, is complete. It's achieved its objectives by creating a flourishing, beautiful and secure state for the Jewish people. Now all it needs to do is protect itself. In my eyes, this includes defending Israel from terrorism, from future foreign invasion, and even maintaining a Jewish majority (this last point is a source of much argument among the World). It does not mean annexing more land, creating more Palestinian refugees, and supporting settlements. It does not mean seeing the Palestinian people as enemies, beyond those that are guilty of carrying out armed terrorism. It does mean finding a peaceful, long term solution for both sides.
As a Zionist-leftist, my views are criticized by the left, and by the Zionist right alike. Both sides, in my eyes, don't seem to realize that each of their views for a binational state will lead to the destruction of Israel, and yet another travesty added to the list of Jewish history.

u/josephesaad thank you for sharing these other NGOs with us, I'll look into them in detail.

I have an author you may like. Try Amos Oz, maybe start with Dear Zealots. He talks on fanaticism, what it is to be a secular Jew, and then his ideas on the 2 state solution. I believe you'd like his views, and his words, very much.

If you do get around to reading it, please let me know and we can talk about it.

https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Zealots-Letters-Divided-Land/dp/1328987000

When you read it, please let me know what you think.