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If you are renting and can't screw into walls, a lot of people are using posts that get clamped between the floor and ceiling and then use a little camera adapter mounted to that.
Link (might not be the best, but first ones I found on Amazon)
Hmm, I haven't investigated this in a while, but I like the idea of bracing the floor and ceiling. Do you mean something like this? How do the sensors mount onto the poles?
(I imagine HTC will talk about this sometime before they sell these to people, right?)
I went with option 1. I got a set of these in a 2-pack: [link]
It has black rubber feet so I put some of those big felt pads you put under furniture so it shouldn't mark the ceiling. Even with the felt, they are sturdy enough so as long as you don't yank or fall into them, they aren't going anywhere.
If you search for something like "camera clamp" or "flash clamp", you'll find big versions of what look like bag clips that are threaded for the lighthouses. Its a pretty standard thread size for most camera hardware.
Contractor poles just get a mount for the base stations that fits on them, I use a bicycle camera mount, floor to ceiling, harder to trip on than a tripod and much smaller profile. I wrapped mine in electrical tape cause I didn't like the color.
A typical solution from the original Vive days is to use "contractor poles" which clamp between the floor and ceiling. You can put the poles anywhere (assuming your ceiling is low enough) and then use a clamping camera mount on the pole. The lighthouses should have threaded holes for a camera mount just like the Oculus cameras (the 1st generations ones definitely did).
I have a CV1 and a Vive and have been using poles for both of them. BTW I tried some cheap clamps at first but they sagged over time, so I ended up switching to RAM and Manfrotto mounts which are definitely not cheap but have held their placement for years.
These for indoors, outdoors I have some really crappy K-stands I got with a lighting kit.
I use the contractor poles and it works really well. I made one of those posts in past lol. They are called 3rd hand supports. You also need to get some gopro mounts that attach to a bike.
while i don't know what a tension pole is, what i use works great and sounds like a tension pole: [link]
Ah, I see what you were going for. That seems like a pretty good method. I ended up going with these bad boys: [link]. They offered the best height range for the price.
Cool. If you don't want to put holes in your place a lot of people use tripods or support bars like this one [link]
You can use something like this - it will use less floor space (give you more play area) and is stable. Will depend on ceiling height. They make them in different sizes.
I did not want to drill in my house either, so I used something along the lines of this: [link]
You can probably find some locally at a hardware store for cheaper.
I also bought some mounts that attatch to that pole via a grip. Works like a charm and I can move them whenever I want
Well, it's $70 for a two pack of the rods. Then you also need two camera mount brackets which are frequently bought with those that are $13 a piece. Vive ownership is not cheap. You'll also need the $25 bust for HMD storage. [link]
Then you need an HDMI, USB, and power extensions. Some new face cushions from VR Covers. You can also get those exercise piece together equipment mats to layout your play space on. So if you step off the mat you know you've stepped out of bounds. /S
So these came to mind. Painters use these to secure plastic tarps to ceilings - you just crank them in place they act as a large jack and you can take them down anytime - no need permanently affix wood to the floor or ceiling.
FastCap 3rd Hand Support System 57-to-144-Inches, 2-pack #3HAND5 [link]
"3rd hand" poles. If you don't mind the bright red colour, they're a great way to mount things without drilling into your wall!
I used these poles: [link]
Have them right at ceiling height(8-9ft), pointed right where I would sit/stand, and they are far enough away to trigger a warning that they are too far. I dismissed the warning and have had no problems at all.
I also enabled beta for the steam client and steamVR tool. I did not enable any bluetooth.
I have different rods that are similar to the ones you got. A damn life saver. Makes it easy to put the lighthouses anywhere you want and makes setup real fast. I did use the poles I got upside down so the thicker part of the pole goes up to the ceiling.
I accidentally only bought one of the pipe mounts, so the second lighthouse was mounted to the pole using the mount that came with the vive and zip ties, worked quite well actually.
My only complaint or design suggestion about the poles is they are heavier than they need to be. But I don't think anyone makes a version of these poles that are much lighter and thus can't lift as much weight.
they are 2 tubes, the inner tube slides freely when you hold what is usually a quick grip-type deal and when you let go of the grip, it reapplies the tension on the inner pole, they are usually meant for dust curtains during construction or to hang other things on, heavier duty ones are meant for holding load where structures arent stable enough to support themselves these have to be extended forcibly by screwing it upwards. the quick grip method varies from how heavy duty the rods are, like your shower curtain rod is a tension rod. These are what everybody has been recommending (valve even linked these in the dev manual) [link]
Thse poles work great and don't cause movement: [link] you can get camera pipe mount clamps to clamp on or zip tie the stock mounts onto them. (I did both because I accidentally only ordered one pipe mount)
You can also search for any number of camera mounts that have clamps so you can clamp onto a bookshelf. Just avoid goosenecks since they move or anything bendible/flexible. You want a rigid mount that can be tightened at any hinge so it won't move once tightened.
Where are your lighthouses?
Mine are mounted on these poles right near the ceiling. One is 5 feet to my left and behind me. The other is 12 feet to my right in front corner.
Both are angled down so they point right where I sit/stand. I get a warning that they are passed the 15ft maximum, but I dismissed it and they have both worked fine.
Thanks, what about these guys for the poles: [link]
They seem to have more of a base, which I assume makes it more sturdy and less moveable?
Poles like these:
And pole clamps like these:
Super easy, movable, adjustable.
Posted in and earlier thread but:
I would very much recommend getting the light houses mounted on the wall or using this Support System. I found the tripods wobble the tiniest bit as you walk around and if you are sensitive this can be really nauseating. The supports I linked don't leave any marks and are much more stable. Plus they give you a little extra room compared to the tripods.
Edit: You will need these to mount the base stations on the support beams if you use them Clamps.
I bought these adjustable support poles and these clamp mounts to hold the lighthouses to the support poles. Works great and this is how it looks (sorry for terrible picture, but its all I currently have available to me at the moment.)
My solution: support rods & clamp mounts
Easy setup / take down, with no damage to the walls. Yes, it does mean I have "safety orange" construction support rods in my living room... but it seems to blend nicely with my "decor".
I use these [link]
red fit my room you might want a dif color
For those who would rather just throw money at the problem, here are products you can buy from Amazon to get to a similar setup without having to DIY anything:
FastCap 3rd Hand Support System 57-to-144-Inches, 2-pack #3HAND5
Smallrig® Cool Ballhead Arm V4 Multi-function Double Ball Adapter with Bottom Clamp & Standard 1/4" Screw - 1138
Props for a good low cost solution, though!
I have contractor poles and camera mounts for my base stations.
> I'm not sure if I'll be able to mount the sensors on the opposite ends of my room. One of the sensors may stay on my computer desk and the other on top of my wardrobe, so at different heights.
You might consider a 3rd Hand (from Amazon) and a pole camera mount:
I've had the ones everyone else has posted in here, these are the best. You are able to pin them tightly between floor and ceiling and it literally does not budge. Has been amazing.
I use these:
coupled with these:
Something like this [link]
That's what I use. Originally got them for my Vive 1.0 basestations, which I'm still using with my Index, but the Index 2.0 basestation mounts are identical. While there's cheaper solutions(tripods, adhesive mounts if you can't mount with screws, etc.), I decided to go with these due to their low footprint and sturdiness. You'll also need standard tripod mounting clamps to attach the basestations to the poles. Here's some links to the ones I have.
Setup is really easy. Included instructions with the poles should be enough for getting those setup and the clamp mounts just screw into the basestation and you just clamp them to the pole.
They're a bit more expensive, but as I'm in an appartment where I cant mount anything to the walls, I use these: https://www.amazon.com/FastCap-Support-System-144-Inches-3HAND5/dp/B000067S12/ref=sr_1_1?crid=7Z9MYTVP9FZJ&keywords=3rd+hand+support+system&qid=1549660856&sprefix=3rd+hand%2Caps%2C207&sr=8-1 (along with some pose-able mounts)
Might want to look into getting ceiling brace poles, that's what I did and then got clamps to mount the base stations to the poles.
Here's the poles:
These are the clamps:
and you can get a 2-pack
I also have these. working great. not thrilled to have two red poles in my living room but whatever
Since my play space limited my options due to furniture arrangement and other things, which would inhibit the use of traditional tripods, I opted to go another route. I also didn't want to mount them on the walls, even with adhesive, nor did I have any shelving, etc. to place them on.
Not the cheapest of solutions, but I decided to go this route, using a couple of 3rd arms and tripod clamps.
[link] - Amazon link
[link] - Amazon link
They take up a very small footprint and are easily tensioned securely in place, making for a very stable platform. The clamps make attaching the basestations and adjusting height/tilt angle easy.
It may not be the way you want to go, but just putting it out there as an alternative solution.
These are the ones I have for traveling, but holy crap are they overpriced on the uk site!
[link] or [link] if your ceiling is low. Then you need some good clamps. Check out this thread. [link]
Looks like harbor freight could let you do it for like $30($15 if you only need one...). They're calling it a 'A truck bed load bar that doubles as a temporary brace'
Have you considered a contractor pole? You can also use cheap sand bags. In terms of filler, you can get cheap playground sand for $5/bag, but I recommend spending just a few dollars more and get pebbles instead. Place whatever you decide to fill the sandbags with inside gallon size ziplog bags. These extra steps help to avoid getting sand and dust everywhere.
If you had enough money to spend on a Vive then spend a little more on these extension poles and clamps. Like me I guarantee you will be happy that you went the extra mile as you will no longer be restricted in mounting them, nor will you lose space like you would with tripods and your Vive will gain portability. They have longer ones if you have high ceilings as well also check out our ~~wiki for other mounting solutions~~ just kidding where the fuck did that page for it go?
Or... you can get extension poles?
And they are just... sitting on drawing easels? So you buy an 800$ product and have the sensors placed somewhere precariously? Come on bro, we have a page somewhere full of mounting solutions, google it.
Not the wiki a few users created but another post I grabbed just searching.
If you don't have room for tripods, try this and this
Do NOT sacrifice anything! Good luck and Welcome to VR!
Check out the "frequently bought together" section for how people are mounting the base stations to the poles.
2 for 70$. Looks ok for me.
If price is not an issue, a number of users reported success with these extendable beams ($70 per pair) coupled with some mounting clamps such as these ones here ($13 each).
A slightly cheaper option would be to get two of these ($26 each), though I haven't seen this one in particular used for the lighthouses yet, it looks like it should work great. Another option would be to use regular old tripods, which many users have also reported success with.
Depends on how hight the ceiling is at your friends...
If it is normal height, then something like these are the best from what I read...
the lighthouses can then be mounted on the supports with 2 of these
I personally bought 2 light stands similar to these because I have a heigher ceiling that the supports can reach
and I mount the lighthouses on them with 2 of these...
It works, but I always fear someone running against the stands while playing , knocking them over. Much better should be the first solution, it also has a smaller footprint using less space than the light stands
May be overkill, but I got a 2-pack of these "3rd Hands" [link]
along with these [link]
I preferred them over traditional tripods because these don't take up any space at the base, which was prime real estate in my limited area as it is. These are super easy to use and reposition anywhere. Because they use tension between the floor and ceiling, they are super secure and totally resistant to vibration.
I only wish they came in black so they were a little less obnoxious, but I'm just using my smallish computer room here and not crazy concerned about the aesthetics. They're both snug in the opposite corners of the room. No sticky adhesives, holes, screws, and I have some handy tools now if I ever want to like build a house or something. :)
you could mount your lighthouses using Contractor Poles and Camera Pole Mounts.
* I have not tried these specific products, they're just what came up when I searched them on Amazon.
I use Third Hand Poles and Pole Mounts
Takes < 10 mins to move from room to room. Now granted I do not have to move computer (My roommate's is setup in the other room)
This is what I'm using. Had it for about a month now and very sturdy. You can get them for much cheaper through harbor freight. I had to go through amazon though as the one through harbor freight wasn't long enough for my ceilings.
Here's the 2-pack [link].
Hers my setup. Not too detailed; but explains itself: I bought the parts from Amazon. Love it!
Edit: more details...
FastCap 3rd Hand Support System 57-to-144-Inches, 2-pack #3HAND5 [link]
Smallrig® Cool Ballhead Arm V4 Multi-function Double Ball Adapter with Bottom Clamp &amp; ... [link]
I can't drill my walls currently, so I need to buy something as a mounting solution for the time being. I am going to purchase this pole with this clamp and I was wondering if there is anything else I need to buy.
Also, one last question, I have heard that the nintendo wii wrist straps are the best ones to get, so would this version be the correct one to purchase?
Thanks in advance.
Smallrig® Cool Ballhead Arm V4 Multi-function Double Ball Adapter with Bottom Clamp & ... [link]
The overwhelming recommendation :/ this subreddit is [link] with 2 of the camera mounts amazon recommends you buy it
I'm going to just be using the same thing as I will be for the base stations (pulled out of the Vive developer setup .pdf):
How stable are those tripods? A tripod that tall is more susceptible to vibrations than mounting, which can cause tracking issues. That's why many people suggest, if you can't wall mount, using an extendable support pole like this in conjunction with a clamp mount. Much more stability than a tripod. This is the setup Valve was using for a lot of the Vive demos.
You'll need a longer pole than what I went with, but these will work:
If you don't really care about the space savings these poles give you, a camera tripod would probably be a bit cheaper.
EDIT: With the poles, you'd also need something like this: [link]
Probably a tripod since you can't see the bottom.
Poles that I used.
Potato quality image of them in action.
One was ziptied using the mount that came with the vive because I screwed up and only ordered one pole clamp instead of 2 of them.
The poles are great because they have a very tiny footprint, they don't take up space like a tripod would.
Maybe in your case better use an extendable pole like [link]
& a clamp like [link]
I'm using a telescopic contractor pole with a pole clamp mount:[link]
The lighthouse stations weigh 320 grams each, according to what I've read. Very roughly as much as a full Coke can. That might be a little too much for velcro. The backs of the mounts also aren't smooth, so tape won't stick to them very well. They also vibrate slightly due to having 2 pretty high RPM motors in them, so that's another potential issue. They don't vibrate enough to slide around when placed on furniture or a tripod, but I don't know if velcro would be solid enough to hold them still, if vibration might shake them loose after many hours, etc. Extremely heavy duty velcro might work. Maybe you can screw the lighthouse mounts onto some boards, then use heavy duty velcro or heavy duty double-sided tape to attach the boards to your walls?
Slight movement won't make them lose tracking completely, but it will introduce a few cm (or more) worth of error until you recalibrate, and if you happen to be in VR when someone bumps it, it'll feel like an earthquake and possibly make you nauseous.
Anyway, IIRC the developers at Valve recommend using floor to ceiling poles like these [link] combined with mounts like these [link]
But if you have an artificial ceiling, your only options are tripods or somehow mounting to the walls.
Valve recommends these as an alternative to drilling holes in your wall:
Don't use tripods, they're not the right solution.
I have 2 of those same poles, they work great:
Prime shipping options are sold out on the poles too, I think VR users would explain that.
They are great, heavier duty than they need to be, but you can quickly setup the lighthouses in the proper location and they have a tiny footprint unlike tripods.
Considering how terrible tracking can be if you don't mount these up high in opposing corners, you will be glad to have something that lets you easily mount them correctly from the start and easily move them anywhere you want to move them.
yeah im reading about it, doesnt look like it holds well on walls.
I think these:
Could be combined with these:
Use tripod stands, poles like these or command tape.
2 pack is probably a better idea !
Same thing I have except with this:
I'm thinking I'm going to use an extendable floor-to-ceiling pole like this one or better to mount lighthouses.
These would be the heavy duty version.
It makes the installation semi-permanet, yet portable. This is what I use for the Vive and taking my rig to other rooms. It'll work great for the Rift sensors too.
>i'm wondering if it's possible to still use the headset without them
Nope, you need them to play they track the headset and controllers. You literally get a grey screen in the headset if they are not plugged in.
>Also without drilling, what are some options for mounting or setting up the stations? I'm considering command strips as a temporary solution for the time being but are there other mounts or methods I should look into?
Don't try to use command strips; they will not hold them. Really the best solution is to drill and attach them correctly; you can learn to fix holes in drywall really easy. Save that you could use Lightstands with ball head mounts. You could also use contractor poles with Mounting Clamps or if you have a suitable method of mounting you can just use the clamps.
These pressure based monopods are officially recommended as a replacement for the packaged mounting solution, and they obviously work great with some clamps. It's an unexpected $80 additional cost all told, but I'd say it's worth it for the ease of use and tear down.
The ones I bought are these, and any 1/4 inch standard tripod mount will work for the clamps (like the ones in the "buy as a package" suggestion in the link above).