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For a fancy latte, I calculated I save an average of $752/year within the first two years: $577 in the first year and $927 in the second year (because the coffee machine would be part of the costs in the first year but not the second).
We own a Gaggia Classic which we got on sale for $350. We buy a bag of espresso from Wegmans for each week ($7), a gallon of milk ($3) and vanilla syrup (1/4 bottle = $2). So that comes out to $974 for the machine and supplies each week for the first year. After the machine is bought, it's only $624 for a year of supplies.
A tall vanilla latte from Starbucks is about $4.25. To have one every day (like I do my homemade latte) for a year, it's $1,551.25 dollars.
First year = $1551.25 - $974 = $577.25 savings
Second year = $1551.25 - $624 = $927.25 = savings
Two year average = $752.25/year
> if you want something close to an espresso with crema.
It's not going to make you an espresso, but it'll be darn close for pretty much the cheapest price. I do plan on getting something like a Gaggia Classic some time in the near future. But for starters, the Brikka is definitely better than the traditional drip coffee.
Do you know if there has been a change in the build quality of the Gaggia 14101 Classic? I was planning on getting it but I'll have to reevaluate my options if it turns out the quality is not what it used to be.
I don't know where you live, but in the US the "good" version is still on the market. As others have said, apparently Whole Latte Love sells it and so does Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001KOA4Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
I literally just got mine from Amazon 3 days ago and it is the RI9303 (model 14101). It has the aluminum boiler, 3-way solenoid, and over pressure valve (I opened it up to be sure). The "bad" version is the RI9403... which from everything I have read, is only sold in Europe.
As a comparison, here is the RI9403 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gaggia-New-Classic-Brushed-Chrome/dp/B00SBLMICS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421526213&sr=8-1&keywords=RI9403). Notice on the RI9403 the different control buttons, the plastic portafilter spouts, and the lack of the solenoid drain tube on the left side that you can clearly see on the US version (RI9303).
The one on CL for $600 was only 3 months old. With tax, a new one will be $720.
thanks, I've heard great things about gaggia, I will try to find something from them. Good website btw.
What are your impressions of this model? [link]
And to be a little bit useful. I wouldn't go any less than something like this off amazon.
But i would also recommend spending at least double that on a grinder
Thanks for this reply. This is a real help. Anything that helps me avoid a useless machine is much appreciated. Can I ask a follow up on the Gaggia? Which model(s) are you talking about? I spent some time look at Gaggia before I posted this because it was one of the brands listed in the gear guide that I could find machines for sale easy on Amazon. On Amazon, I see, for instance, these three machines:
14101 Classic Espresso Machine
2300 Baby Class Manual Espresso Machine
Gaggia Brera Superautomatic Espresso Machine
When I first saw those, I thought it looked quite promising, they all seem very reasonably priced, but given everything I've been reading here, I'm a little worried. You mention removing the pressurized portafilter mod, which doesn't seem to be too big of a modification to make. The Gaggia descriptions mention pressures well above 9 bars, but I'm seeing here that you don't actually want more than 9 bars, what's going on here? Some of those also have grinders in them. Is it safe to assume that they really don't make the grade and I would need to get a proper grinder? Should I really just skip over the Gaggia options for something proper?
Sur La Table in La Jolla has a bunch and they sample a couple of the machines. [link]. Sounds like you are looking for an actual coffee machine not Espresso but this is what I use and I love it. [link]
Rancilio Rocky (Burr Coffee Grinder)
One thing to note is you can get those espresso machines waaaay cheaper if you buy used, which I recommend if you're new. I would say it's better to spend less on a used beginner (but not low-quality) machine and then upgrade when you've become addicted than to spend very little on a low quality machine and be disappointed in the results.
But it's an absolute MUST to get a good burr coffee grinder!
Sorry for hijacking a thread about a $30 espresso machine and talking about a $300+ machine.
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