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> Maybe I'll get a jetboil then
Jetboils are neat technology, but $$ up front and the fuel cost (isobutane) is the most expensive stove fuel I know of. They are also made specifically for boiling water (hence the name) and may not be as flexible for normal cooking.
Something like this is 3x cheaper up front and 3x cheaper to run (when running on propane). It has adapters to run on propane and butane. Butane tends to cost more than propane but it's nice to have options.
Not sure about the radio. It has some pre programmed weather channels that might not work here. I’d just buy a small cheap FM/AM here + a pack of AA batteries to be able to her news or emergency broadcast during the blackout.
The potable stoves are very useful. I have one that looks almost identical to the one you sent. You probably won’t cook a stew on it, but it can boil a little of water in 4 minutes. The gas cans for it were hard to find a month ago, but now they are back in stock.
There are bigger (and less portable options) that people use to actually cook meals and that use more widespread and cheaper gas canisters. Like this one https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO
Here’s what you want. These are the gold standard for RV campers around here. They can run on Propane or Butane. So if you have the room, you can run off a big propane tank to keep cost down, or use small ones if you need more portability.
One option is a butane camp stove. They are safER for use indoors than propane. Some models are dual use and can use either butane or propane.
It won't be a waste of money unless you actually never, ever use it. I have a couple of propane products that I rigged to run on butane. Doing the reverse is probably a bad idea because propane's vapor pressure is like 200 times that of butane. Although it looks like at least one company offers that option.
You might consider a butane camp stove. They are safER for use indoors than propane. Some models are dual use and can use either butane or propane.
These things are so cheap and so handy that you should buy one anyway. They have a million uses - cook hot pot on your table. Take it camping. Use it when your stove is broken. Need an extra burner for a party. Etc. My kitchen was under renovation and I cooked on this plus an induction burner for months. It cooks the same as an ordinary gas stove.
People also cook on the Mr. Buddy heaters though it is not recommended by the mfr. There are a bunch of videos on how to do this - basically you just need to rig up a horizontal grate directly in front of the heater. But in cold weather you can kill two birds with one stone - cook and heat a room at the same time. The Mr. Buddy heaters have been tested and they are 100% safe for indoor use. They have an oxygen sensor which shuts the heater off if you have depleted the oxygen in a room. Have a CO sensor just to be safe but many people have tried to set off a CO sensor with a Mr. Buddy as a test and it never does. You are supposed to keep a window cracked slightly open when using them. Obviously you are going to let in some cold air that way but the Mr. Buddy will make up for it.
It's propane. There's a small can of it under a cover, inside the stove.
Like this one:
Gas ONE Propane or Butane Stove GS-3400P Dual Fuel Portable Camping and Backpacking Gas Stove Burner with Carrying Case Great for Emergency Preparedness Kit (Gold)
Line conditioners don't really do much. The only thing that is truly effective is a double conversion UPS, which is pricey especially in large sizes.
But the good news is that you don't need one. THD is rarely a problem in real life.
For cooking during outages, I would suggest investing in a tabletop butane stove (these cost all of $30). The latest ones will run on either butane or propane:
https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/
Dual fuel (takes butane or propane canisters) camping stove. Will link mine but looks like price went up a few bucks and the Coleman one (looks exactly the same) is cheaper now. I bought it specifically becuse it is just short enough to fit in the drawers of the Ikea thing I bought.
Gas ONE Propane or Butane Stove GS-3400P Dual Fuel Portable Camping and Backpacking Gas Stove Burner with Carrying Case Great for Emergency Preparedness Kit (Gold) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_ZSEP4C219D1K7Z91B1W9
I like to use butane canisters over propane, as they're lower profile and more convenient, but you get less bang for buck and they sell out quickly at least where I'm at.
As fair warning: my understanding is these setups give off carbon monoxide and are for outdoor camping use only. I use it in my car but ensure there is adequate ventilation.
Yep, I really prefer this size/format for big pans, as they're very stable and can be centered, unlike on most camp stoves. You can get them in dual-fuel as well: https://smile.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/
More like this, with a hose to use with a propane tank. Propane works better in the cold than butane.
What is better than a hot plate is a small propane gas burner. They sell them on Amazon for around $40. Ours was a life saver when we didn’t have power and we were able to cook Mac and cheese, ramen, eggs, bacon , etc. we have one like this
Gas ONE Propane or Butane Stove GS-3400P Dual Fuel Portable Camping and Backpacking Gas Stove Burner with Carrying Case Great for Emergency Preparedness Kit (Gold) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_RRDNGJE62ZEZNZG1MRBA
How about something like this instead?
They're very popular in Asian countries for household use in cities, particularly South Korea, Taiwan, and China
Sure. Gas usually gives higher heat than electric, but unless you're using a commercial gas stove, you won't get enough heat to get what you're looking for. The real Chinese clay stove I mentioned puts a ton of heat on about six inches of space, then blows the heat out those castle holes along the side of the walk. You're looking at a hand full of wood or charcoal in those things, they are very efficient.
A few years ago they turned our gas off after finding a leak on our side in the yard. It was going to force repkping the whole house because of permits from the city, and I gave up.
Asian markets sell a little butane stove, about 14 inches square, the runs on canisters, here $6 for five in a pack.
That thing generates more heatvthan my old gas stove! I never bothered with a stove again, it's just that good. They cost about $25 US. Amazon sells them, I'm sure.
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You might try that for Asian cooking.
You need intense heat for searing, and this provides. I had a Korean grill that I used with this stove, and it got so hot the metal burner started to melt!
Can you cook with a butane burner like this one on the balcony?
I decided to switch out the wood/alcohol stove to a butane and propane stovetop. It was 6 dollars more, but i feel itd last longer in the long run and i could use it in case of a fire ban https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IzChFbHEBY5RC
The stove is just a basic camping stove that I hooked up to a grill propane tank.
I drilled a hole towards the bottom of the popper for probe placement. It sits just above the paddles that stir the beans. It's not a perfect science as the probe does shift around a bit.
No worries about the long reply!
Amazon sells a dual fuel single burner that looks pretty good. I'm probably gonna go for it. Nice to be able to use butane or propane. Maybe you'll like it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KK88ybC5Y09R6
For the shower I'm leaning on the Nemo Helio shower. Looks pretty sweet. I'll definitely look into the 12v should I get power in the future.
That's interesting, about ambient temperature and it's effects on inverters. Didn't know that, didn't think it mattered much. I'm happy I went with the cooler, the need for a power system was driven by the initial desire to have a fridge.
I'm a little concerned about the amount of space (or lack thereof) I'll have in the truck (Tacoma), but I don't have a lot of stuff, and also have an access cab which helps a ton. Gonna do a raised bed platform, and my shell is a high top. It's all in the attitude I think, and I'm SO thrilled to have gotten the ball rolling, after years of planning and research.
I appreciate you sharing your experience! Super helpful. I'd love to know how the roof vent works out for you too, if you go for it.
Get a $35 Butane/propane cooktop.
They are much more versatile, the fuel is so cheap that you never recover the amount you invest in your electrical system.
Yes you can use them inside. No they don't produce much poison (on Butane) .
Further you can take the stove outside to a picnic bench when you got good weather and have friends over. With the induction cooktop you are always inside.
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The microwave should be OK to run from the alternator. I'm running a 700w coffeemaker from a 1000w inverter 215ah battery and 200w solar. Every day and my alternator charges the battery always when I'm driving
This is a good idea for those of you who have lost power.
For those apartment dwellers, might I recommend one of the butane powered single burners - you can pick one up from one of the asian food markets for around $20 and they are safe to use indoors:
Good for backpacking too. Lightweight and stores in a minimal amount of space!
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I use this one cause it allows me to use propane or butane. I just keep the tanks in a cabinet with my stove when not in use
You're not going to get your money back on a van build unless you find a sucker. Also, newer used cargo vans are often lease returns from businesses. Unlike with privately owned cars, you have no idea who did or did not beat the snot out of them.
Honestly, for a 6 month trip, I'd probably buy a used RV. You can find late 80's/early 90's Class B RV's for a fraction what a stripped Transit will cost and they will already be built out. You also won't lose your shirt when you decide to sell. Oh, and they tend to be super cheap to insure too.
Your other option, which is what I did many years ago for a 2+ month trip with my then GF, is find a conversion van with a 'TV' top. Remove the middle row seating(most have rear seats that already fold out into beds) and throw in some camping equipment. Even the shorter 12-16" 'TV' tops often provide lots of extra storage for clothing and gear.
All you really need to add is a sleeping bag, propane/butane camp stove, some camp cookware, a means of carrying water, a good cooler, maybe a dry camp toilet and a Jackery or similar power station. If you want to get real fancy, buy a cheap cabinet or vanity and trim it to fit behind the drivers seat for some additional storage/counter space.
No you likely can't stand up straight in a conversion van if you're over 5' tall, but you're going to national parks where there is plenty of room to do so. No they're not as trendy as a Sprinter or Transit either, but the money you save means more to spend on your adventure. When you're done, clean it up and bolt the seats back in then sell it to the next kid for close to what you paid.
Don't be afraid of mileage on older Dodge and Ford based RV's or conversion vans. The 5.2 and 5.9 Dodge magnum engines, if reasonably maintained, will often go 250K miles or more. The same can be said about the Ford 5.0 and 5.8 V8's. Finding one with 120K on the clock, at 20 years old, is a good sign it was treated gently by the previous owner. This baby could provide years of adventure*.
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^(* Always have any used vehicle inspected by a qualified mechanic before purchase. $100 spent now might save you thousands later.)
Why buy something for $130 when you can get a propane/butane combo burner for $32? Is it being slightly lifted off the ground really worth $100?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details
I do this all the time & use one of these:
I don't live inside a hurricane so the wind does not blow hot oil all over the place.
A bit manual, but I prefer this method over my behmor 1600 (original). Here is my list of parts for a motorized whirley pop:
- GasOne Propane Burner- $33
- Stainless Steel Whirley Pop- $45
- Greartisan DC 12V 100RPM Gear Motor- $15
- Rocker Switch- $9
- 6mm-to-6mm shaft coupling- $10
You would also need some hose clamps and something rigid to stabilize the motor. If you don't have the money to buy another roaster, this is the next best option in my opinion. The hardest part was drilling the hole for the motor shaft. Next time I would torch it.
I'm seeing about $2/can in 4x pack.
But, ya know, check this out. https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO
It’s not a matter of recipe but trial and error in preparation.
Here are the pointers from experience: - it does not work well on electric stoves so get yourself a cheap single propane burner off Amazon like here. - don’t fill water past the line (room temp water is your friend) - temp is key. Try with med-hi and dial down if coffee comes out quicker than 5 mins - use a coffee scale and pack 18g of coffee (don’t tamper too hard) - use good quality espresso beans, my favorite is Eye of the tiger from here
And Practice, Practice, Practice
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Surely you can store camping equipment? These things burn clean (,but do open a window) and are fairly compact https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/
Or even smaller https://www.amazon.com/Gas-One-Backpacking-Stove-Fuel/dp/B098KN61WF/
Get a camping pot or two (about $20 on Amazon for a set) and you can boil up some water or heat a tin of something
Austin here. 5 days without power. Long time apartment dweller finally in a house
Butane camp stove from academy. Amazon or walmart. Here is a dual fuel for $35. Runs on butane or propane
https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/
Blue cube water thing is called an aquatainer. Holds 7 gallons and cost about $16 at Walmart or academy. I'd have one per person
Forget the solar if you are on a budget. Here is a 2 pack of 20,000 MA usb batteries
https://www.amazon.com/Portable-20000mAh-Charging-External-Compatible/dp/B094G1GL8T
Awesome usb light for $10
https://www.amazon.com/Onite-20-US24USB3W-WW-Warehouse-Emergency-WarmWhite/dp/B00QX096L0/
Cheap flashlights that run on AA batteries
https://www.amazon.com/Dorcy-Waterproof-Flashlight-Carabiner-Emergencies/dp/B07G515QYB/
Forget the crank or solar radios
Am/fm/weather runs on AA batteries for $20
https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Emergency-Operated-Portable-Reception-Transistor/dp/B08S6ZZQKY/
Ramen is cheap. Mix it with powered mashed potatoes to make a thick, dense meal for cheap.
I also love wold brand chili and cornered beef hash. When you go to HEB, get an extra can or 2. It adds up fast.
This is what I got, and so far it's great! Dual fuel. No need for a lighter. Good range of intensity on the flame.
Gas ONE Propane or Butane Stove... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I have one of the butane stoves and like it, but just found this combo butane propane
https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/
I have this one and it works well. (I use it for deep frying mostly) https://smile.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=gasone&qid=1623519748&sr=8-4
It is dual butane/propane but I only use propane with it.
I've been living the dispersed life for the past 5 years. First, I'll recommend Freecampsites.net. I use it 3/4 of the time. I get the other sites from the Ranger station or locals.
On food, most of my shopping happens at Dollar Generals because they are cheap and closest to most camp sites. Peanut butter, powdered mash, mac n cheese, eggs and nuts( my fav snack). I use this dual fuel camp stove, as most of my dispersed camping is car camping. I do have a smaller kit if I'm hiking in, but I don't.
That's the one I have. I typically feel like I'm advertising when I post links to products that aren't requested.
This is the stove I purchased. It will use butane or propane. I also have a 17" Blackstone. I purchased a 5 Lb (1 gal.) refillable propane tank. This is a refillable tank that will help you avoid carrying around a bunch of green propane canisters and throwing them away. It will also help you avoid constantly changing out those canisters over the course of a weekend - they don't last too long on the Blackstone. You can also get a tee or a tree and run the Blackstone and the stove (or any other propane appliance) simultaneously off of the single tank. You may need to get some additional hoses or adaptors to make it all work the way you want, but it's quite simple. I'm posting Amazon links, but pretty much all of this stuff is available in your local hardware/home improvement store or the camping section at Walmart.
One of these:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Tabletop-Butane-Gas-Camping-Stove-1-Burner-Gray/34761205
Basically just pick any one of these types - they use a small butane can like a spray paint can, are super light and burn hot. They also stay clean, unlike a kerosene camp stove and you can use them indoors.
I've heard this is a great option especially for versatility.
Lol for future preparations though maybe get a single portable gas stove burner like these: https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Single+Gas+Burner&qid=1608618534&sr=8-5. It'll let you still cook and heat up water for tea/hot chocolate to keep you warm. Don't constantly run it though cause of CO and CO2.
Another insanely useful and cheap prep is a butane stove (or two) and a dozen canisters stored away (or a butane/propane model with either option https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/.) With a little ventilation, these can easily be used inside if your power goes down and I love cooking over actual flame compared to an electric stove.
Even more backup would be little canisters of cooking fuel commonly used in catering. My mom and I used to make our own versions of these before camping trips with a tuna can, rolled up cardboard, and paraffin. https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Safety-Cooking-12-Pack-Opener/dp/B078PYV3BX/
First, thank you for this detailed post. It is exactly the kind of information that I was looking for. I actually did read your first impression post.
I purchased all the upgrades, Center 306 Data logger and the chaff collector/cooler. I really wanted to try out Artisan as the Behmor was all sound and smell roasting for me. I never used a thermometer with it so all this will be new to me.
I asked Mr. Hong about a burner. His feedback "A gas burner that outputs more than 7500 btu is sufficient." I believe the current burner that I have will work but I have researched others, just in case. I am leaning towards a dual fuel https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01HQRD8EO That way, I am some flexibility in fuel types and I can get a propane regulator with a flow gauge for better precision.
I have been roast Tanzanian Peaberry for the few years. I am very interested how it will compare to the Behmor. In it, I roasted will 10 seconds into the second crack but I had no cooling setup so I let it coast. I will definitely be playing around with it since I have much more control.
Again thanks for the advice as it is going to be a great starting point. If FedEx can be trusted, it is supposed to arrive tomorrow but that seems way too optimistic as it only shipped a day ago. I will post an update when I get it going.
That's a really small looking rig. I've never even looked at sleeping in one. That said: Gas One dual fuel. You'll want propane if it is cold. https://www.amazon.com/GS-3400P-Portable-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B01HQRD8EO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485967618&sr=8-1&keywords=dual+fuel+propane+butane
No Solar. Get a roof box for storage. Power bank for the phone. Set the car up to charge the phone and battery when driving. https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Double-Speed-Recharging/dp/B01JIWQPMW/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1508535553&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=anker+powercore
Setup everything with DC plugs. Electronics run on DC; we only use AC because that is what we have in houses. Don't power from car DC to convert to AC so you can run your AC charger which converts to DC. Get a DC cable=done.
Go shopping at REI. Buy things and return them if they don't work. I'd probably get the REI Credit card for extra refund.
Get an USB fan; run off powercore get an usb light; run off powercore Get a good $40 headlamp; see REI Get a nice chair and store in roof box, I recommend a low concert chair; see REI. Get a little table.
Go do some weekend test trips.
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