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I've fallen into an Asian Skincare hole lately, and absolutely LOVE Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Lotion Moist as a moisturizer for oily skin. It's super lightweight, makes my skin so bouncy and hydrated, is cheap and you can get it with fast shipping from Amazon.
I see "crows feet" and I think "dehydrated". So.
1) Replace your exfoliant with CeraVe Hydrating facial cleanser. It's not going to feel like your face is clean for the first like week to two weeks because you're probably used to the very squeaky clean (stripped) feeling. But focus on how your skin feels about two minutes after you pat it dry - that clean-but-not-desert feeling is delightful.
2) Add a purely hydrating layer. Depending on what type of environment you're in, that might be Hada Labo lotion or a serum. If you're in a dryer area, you probably want a glycerine-based serum or lotion rather than a hyaluronic acid based one, as HA can actually draw water from your skin if there isn't enough in the air.
3) Consider a thicker night cream like CeraVe in the tub, Jason Gentle Basics night cream, or (again depending on your area) a thin layer of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) to help your skin keep the moisture in it. If you're in central California or the south - somewhere with humid air - putting your hydrating layer on, sitting for a minute or two, then finishing with Vaseline might be enough. If you're in Tucson, you're probably going to want something like the CeraVe in the tub or the Jason to add additional layers of hydration to your skin.
4) As /u/glittercrotch said, r/asianbeauty is a great resource. There are lots of skincare companies in various Asian countries that have affordable, high quality products that you can get on Amazon. The Hada Labo lotion is one, and you might check out something like the Hada Labo Skin Plumping Gel-Cream for your thicker cream step.
Linked to the Amazon UK one!
This is the one I'd recommend as you have oily skin. There is an orange bottle which is the premium version for extra hydration. But given it's coming up to summer as well I think you're better off starting with the original.
I already posted a question this week but i'm back with one more:
I recently purchased this "toner" and an AHA. I've read that you're supposed to put toner on before an AHA, should I still follow that rule in this situation?
I'm just a lil confused because according to Amazon comments, the toner I bought isn't really a toner but hyaluronic acid.
Also worried about somehow giving myself a chemical burn by combining acids because i'm not sure how chemical burns work :,)
I buy it on Amazon. This one is prime I think, but you can get it for cheaper if you're willing to wait a month for it to ship from Japan. No I've never seen anything like it in Western products.
Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, 170ml [link]
Sorry, the label wrapper came off of my Hadalabo hyaluronic solution when I opened it, but it’s amazon hadalabo. I alternate the AHA and BHA every other day.
I’ve read to do toner before exfoliating, which I did with my old Thayer’s toner. I just switched to HL, as some people said they used it as a toner, and it’s so serum-like! Should I still be doing it before exfoliating?
I use this one: [link]
I also use alcohol-free witch hazel but I don't use it every day.. only as needed really. I use an oil cleanser to remove makeup followed by a wet microfiber cloth to get any residue off.
I'm strongly considering this one. After u/MxUnicorn suggested checking out their brand, I did some perusing. This one seems very good.
Thank you for letting me know! And for the haiku, too :)
EDIT: Would this cleanser eliminate the need to follow up with this?
I use the Dr Jart in the mornings and it really does reduce redness AND the appearance of redness at the same time. (Does that make sense? It both seems to reduce redness overtime, but it also covers any redness you have.) It wouldn't be sufficiently moisturizing for me for a nighttime moisturizer, but I love it for daytime - smooth without any shine.
I haven't tried the DE. Before you shell out for it, I would recommend trying the Neutrogena Hydro Boost Extra Dry. It MUST be the Extra Dry, because the regular one has a bunch of fragrance. It's so good and cheap. I love it. I also love Roche Posay Baume Cicaplast when my skin is irritated. I would personally buy those two over one DE product. Oh, and the Hada Labo Hyaluronic. [link]
Gotta hydrate that skin.
This stuff was my lifesaver. I went from 40mg to 60mg the same week I got this and my skin got LESS irritated and flaky. I still get a few tiny flakes but not like it was before.
Erm, this one. Is that the same as the Moist version? I can't keep the different Hada Labos straight for some reason... The sticker on the back of my bottle (which I purchased in a local Japanese market) just says "Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion."
Yes! Actually I'm using the Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion which is really popular here. There are other two kinds, the red one is a bit thicker and I've heard it's better for more mature or drier skin types, and the new one which has a kinda golden packaging which is supposed to have more types of hyaluronic acids, but I haven't tried it.
I had been reading here and there, and saw mentions that Hado Labo has been reformulated and their new one isn't great, or has alcohol or something? [link]
It's that item, right? I've used it before a couple of years back and I remember it felt nice. Would I use it after my active of the night?
Thanks a lot!
I have a toner in a spray bottle, and I just spray it on a cotton pad and apply it to my face. I've never tried spraying it directly on my face. I just like to use the cotton pad because I feel like I can effectively reach every inch of my face without having to waste any product.
I have sensitive skin as well and I just recently purchased the Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion. I was actually surprised at how moisturizing this product is!! I know everyone raves about it, but of course I didn't realize it until I tried it out for myself. It's super hydrating and leaves my skin feeling softer and plumper than when I didn't have it in my routine.
I don't think the mixing is a good idea.
My hg hyaluronic acid product is actually an asian product
[link] --> the amazon link
What you can do is apply the acid lotion when your face is wet/damp ( the acid pulls the moisture into your skin) let it soak fir 10 mins, apply the cerave then lock everything with an occlusive like vaseline.
Also since asian skincare is more into hydration i would check out /r/asianbeauty
I think the light might be a different product. Not 100% sure. This is the one I would suggest (non affiliate, plain amazon link).
The Milky Lotion might be too heavy although I definitely wouldn't call it heavy in an absolute sense, just specifically in this instance!
I dont recognize a lot of those products, but they do sound luxurious. If you have no real problem with your skin on this routine, I wouldn't change anything. Most say that toner isn't necessary. It was used mostly when facial washes were too alkaline. It would balance the ph of the skin and finish cleaning it. Nowadays, toners have antioxidants and are moisturizing. You can check the ph of your cleanser to determine if you need a toner or not. Remember to not get a toner with alcohol.
To learn more about toners, I would go to r/asianbeauty , where people use them much more. The general consensus there seems to be that this
Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, 170ml [link]
Is made of angel tears or something, but I havent tried it. I have tried the thayer's alcohol-free witch hazel with aloe and rose water toner, and it's okay. It doesn't really feel like I need it, and it smells like pickles. Also, a lot of people on this sub say that witch hazel is bad, while others swear by it. I've heard that the cucumber version is much better, as rose can be irritating. I hear it really cuts down on redness. Both of the thayers toners and the toner I linked are supposed to soften the skin and prepare it for more moisturizer.
Again, I would visit asianbeauty and check out the sidebar regarding toners. However, you probably wont NEED one.
I have this product in my amazon cart and it is supposed to have a similar effect. Now I'm going to read through all the sebamed reviews and decide which one
Moisturizing and waiting 30 min will still reduce the efficacy, from what I've gathered on this sub. I'm in the "adjustment" period of tret (I've been using it for less time than you), so I use a light hyaluronic acid "lotion" (it's really more of a serum) right after I wash, and then I wait 30 min and apply tret. Then I wait another 30 min, and I apply a heavier moisturizer and aquaphor. My skin likes this so I'm sticking with it for now!
I also agree that switching to a hydrating cleanser and washing once a day will help a lot.
It's fascinating (and frustrating!) how differently people react to common ingredients.
The issue of butylene glycol is still a mystery to me - because it's also very widely used, and I'm not certain if it causes acne for me. I believe you are on to something with regard to different formulations affecting the severity of how comedogenic an ingredient is.
For example, the Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion breaks me out, and butylene glycol is the 2nd ingredient.
Other products where it's added in a lower concentration seem to not affect me.
I actually don't know which lotion it is because the bottle is all in Japanese, haha. I copied and pasted the name from Amazon - it was this one. I've used it on and off for about a year, so it'd be weird to be having reactions to it now.
I did notice that the redness faded as the day went on. WEIRD. I didn't put the Hada Labo on this morning. I'll see what happens tomorrow if I use it tonight because I SWEAR I have had that redness for multiple days.
Good luck with your red patches, it's seriously no fun :(
I use mainly Korean & Japanese products (I'm in the US). One of the most popular brands in Japan is Hada Labo which focuses on moisture with high amount of hyaluronic acid. I love the Perfect Gel by them & this lotion is the most popular item: [link]
The Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF PA++++ is also an amazing sunscreen for the face and it acts as a primer as well. If she likes makeup, the Dollywink eyeliner is very popular. Sheet masks are also great to bring back!
Ah, okay. I can cancel that order since it hasn't shipped yet so thanks so much for the info! Is this the one you're talking about?
for sure ! this is the serum I use, if you want to look into it ! It's seriously awesome
That was a game changer for me. Just s thought to test that ...its gentle enough for everyday use and really helped keep my skin moisturized. My routine is fairly simple now...
Ocm with argan/jojoba
Vit c & a
Moisturizer - either argan or jojoba or a combo of both
If I have to cleanse I use a goat milk/ honey/ oatmeal soap.
I use raw Shea butter daily. Or argon oil. Sometimes both.
The Shea butter is so luxurious and if I glob it on then slug it up my skin is usually near perfectly moistured after about 3 nights. It has no other ingredients than the Shea.
Other moisturizers I use are [link] THEN Shea butter then slug.
Too much chemicals and manual exfoliation. Give your face a rest . Go back to basics for a week - gentle cleanse & moisturize only (sunscreen during day always!).
I also fine my slug routine beneficial when I get all obsessive and stupid on my face, gentle cleanse- [link] - then raw Shea butter then Vaseline.
These are all patch tested proven for me....I wouldn't alter or add product at this point besides taking away that is
Well it's possible it could burn her as well since you guys share genes. Body skin tends to be less sensitive to facial skin so maybe it won't affect her body skin.
I would do the hado labo and the lanolin. Put the hado labo on slightly damn skin. I found this, and it won't have to ship from Korea.
You literally only need a few drops and spread it all over slightly damp skin, so as soon as she gets out of the shower.
It's good that she's starting to get a healthier. Incorporate more vegetables. Make sure she's not low on vitamin D either, if she is then you might have to get her supplements. Vitamin D deficiencies can also lead to skin problems and you said she doesn't get out that much.
Is this more like a moisturizer?
Or is it something you use before you use a moisturizer?
Rohto Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion
I'm not going to suggest a sheet mask. I'm going to suggest picking up a bottle of the lotion. I use about four drops morning and night either before sunscreen or essence and it's a miracle. I bought a stack of dry sheet masks and make my own sheet mask with it once a week.
Have you ever tried anything with hyaluronic acid in it? I've had success with Rohto Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (Moist)
Don't be scared by the "acid" term. It is really soothing, light-weight and gentle on skin.
There is a similar, and more expensive [Caudalie SOS Thirst Quenching serum] sold at Sephora that really helped me combat dry/acneic skin in the past. Hada Labo's product is similar and MUCH more affordable.
I have one that says "moist" on it. Not sure if it's a new one or just translation variations. Let me see if I can find it on amazon..
Edit: I have this one. It's great under lotion. Super thin. Works wonders on my dry, sensitive, acne-prone skin.
Rohto Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (Moist) - 170ml [link]
It honestly sounds like you could have dehydrated skin and you should check out /r/skincareaddiction and /r/asianbeauty
Asian beauty was extremely helpful to me as I have almost completely restored my skin and it is so much better, plumper and brighter. I find that there are great, drugstore friendly priced products that you can use with an AB skincare routine, although the sometimes it might be harder to get products as quick, as most ship from Asian countries. One thing that has helped me is using a hyaluronic serum before I use a hyaluronic face mask. I use these twice a day (when I have the time, which is almost daily). I also use the hyaluronic serum before my mask, let it sink in for a couple minutes, put the face mask on and keep it on until it starts drying out (about 45 min, which seems long but I prioritize it). I then take the mask off and let it all soak into my skin for a couple mins, use the hyaluronic serum again, let it soak in and then out my moisturizer on. I've only been doing this for the past month and the intense change in my skin is absolutely ridiculous. These are the two products I use. [link] and [link]
If you're worried about the price, you can buy bundles of sheet masks on Amazon for low prices.
Hi all, I am sorry if this is a completely simple question but I am a beginner. I am located in the United States and want to get some Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion. Is there a particular retailer that is best to purchase from? Is there any concern that products from Amazon will not be authentic?
I found the following links. If any are no go's please let me know! I want to make sure I am getting the right product!
> * Amazon Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, 170ml
> * Amazon Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml)
> * Dokodemo Hada Labo Gokujyun Hyaluronic Acid Solution
Is this the Hada Labo product that everyone talks about on here?
or is it this one?
I've only ordered electronics, books, etc from Amazon, never a face product. It's legit and safe? Do you guys order it from somewhere else?
And even though it's a toner, can I substitute it as a moisturizer since my skin doesn't have any issues with dryness?
I'm interested in buying the Hadalabo lotion but there are two different versions being offered on Amazon:
The older version (more expensive)
The newer version
Is there any benefit in buying the older version?
I bought this hadolabo from amazon back in February but never used it. I want to test it now but realise my packaging doesn't look like that but instead this.
According to amazon I definitely bought it from the first link however the packaging isn't the same. So what do i have? haha but more importantly would you trust it?
Okay, I know this is a dumb question but I really want to double check before I buy because 1) language barrier and 2) no returns. When people refer to the Hada Labo Gokujyun lotion (like in this amazing write up on dehydrated skin), are either of the following products the correct one? Is there a difference between the two?
> * Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, 170ml
> * Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml)
Please let me know if this is right! Also, are there any concerns for product authenticity when purchasing from Amazon? Is there another retailer that is a better route to go?
Is there an easy way to tell the difference between Hada Labo toners on Amazon (between light/moist etc)? I've been repurchasing it for a long time now, my first 2 from this link. I went to rebuy it again and saw that there's an updated version of it, but now the name says "Moist", which it didn't before. Does this mean I've always been buying the Moist version?
Omg, currently living here! In general I'd recommend checking out the Cosme rankings. However I have a lot to say so I'm going to list my recommendations in descending order of importance haha.
The hada labo lotion (note: it's actually a thin liquid that westerners would call a toner) is quite good. (looks like this). However I have really really dry skin, and I personally prefer their "milky lotion". These products (and their equivalents in Hada Labo's "premium" line are popular enough that you can get a good price on them on amazon, but I'd really recommend taking this opportunity to go try them all on the back of your hand at a drugstore. Like, literally any decent-sized drugstore in Japan should have them all :)
There are a lot of really good japanese sunscreens that you should look into. Plus with your skintone, you probably won't have to worry a ton about whitecast. I think the Biore UV bright face milk would be a nice place to start, especially if you have oilier skin!
In my experience, Japanese mascaras tend to be lengthening and clump-proof, but often aren't too volumizing. If, like me, that isn't an issue for you, I highly, highly recommend the Heroine Long and Curl.
Japan also does really great false lashes, if that's your thing. Miche Bloomin makes some really natural looking ones, but I know people also like the ones Dollywink and Dup make.
I really love the CEZANNE UV Clear Face Powder. It takes the shine down a little without totally mattifying. Other people really like the Canmake Marshmallow finish powder.
The naturie hatomugi skin conditioning gel and/or lotion are really well-reviewed, and fairly cheap here. I see them in a lot of little cosmetics shops and some drugstores. I personally haven't tried them because it didn't seem like they'd be moisturizing enough for my dry skin, but it sounds like they might be a nice fit for you.
The classic DHC lip balm in the pink tube is kind of pricey but also my favorite lip balm, and the lipsticky shape makes me feel ~fancy~
All my japanese girls are currently into Excel's eyeshadow quads. They're great for getting that really shimmery japanese eye look, if you're into that. The Opera tint rouge is also really, really popular here.
DHC and Kose (the pink softymo, in particular) make good oil cleansers, however they'd be a nightmare in a suitcase so I don't recommend you buy them here.
A lot of japanese makeup shops also currently stock [the SAEM] Cover Perfection Tip Concealer, which I like a lot and is pretty popular.
Speaking of south korean brands, if you're in a big city (ie: Tokyo, Osaka) there will be some standalone South Korean stores (eg: Etude House, Innisfree, Skinfood). The Etude House store in Umeda is closed this week, but if you can find one, you should try the soon jung line! CREE`MARE by DHOLIC stores also stock a lot of south korean makeup, especially cushions.
Anyway, have fun! And feel free to message me with about confusing packaging/whatever while you're here :)
Hada Labo has a broad range of products, but people on here basically only talk about this one: link, or the “premium” version of that product: link
I’m betting that your confusion about the whole thing stems from the fact that the product is called a “lotion” in Japan. However they use the word differently, and the product is actually more like what English speakers would call a “toner.” So I’d suggest that you think of it as a toner that can improve skin hydration, rather than as a stand-alone moisturizer.
Your link doesn't work. But you're looking for this or this, both are popular.
Just to confirm, this hada labo product is the toner right? [link]
here you go :)
Yup. This one, right? That's the moist!
I've had closed comedones my whole life. Since I finally have my constant breakouts under control, I decided it's time to finally address them!
Skin type: Oily and acne prone, but acne under control w/ current routine (see below).
Searching through the sub, it seems that BHA's are recommended for CCs since they cut through oil better (my forehead is VERY oily), though Stridex (AHA) can work as well. However, the FAQ says not to layer BHAs with retinoids due to pH issues. I also recall that BHAs increase sun sensitivity, and are usually recommended in the evening.
Advice? Thoughts? Can I just add a 15-minute wait time between applying BHA and putting on lotion to ensure good pH levels? Is there another product that would work for CCs that I can combine w/ my retinoid?
How do I combine a BHA w/ a retinoid to get rid of my closed comedones?
I would suggest a Vitamin C serum and the Habo Labo HA Lotion. Vitamin C is great for pigmentation, evening out tone, and keeping acne at bay. The HA lotion is a good extra step to use under your moisturizer for extra hydration since the HA pulls water to your skin.
Aghhh I had a nice reply and my browser crashed. I would recommend Hada Labo, it's a japanese brand and they make really great toners. I get it off amazon. They make a light, regular, and 'rich' version, this is the regular. The main ingredient is hyaluronic acid, with is a very strong humectant that's found naturally in human skin and depletes as we age, it can hold 100x it's weight in water. But as I said before, everyone's skin is different, it's like a fingerprint. I can't guarantee it will or won't work, it's a matter of trial and error. I know how it feels to desperately want to get rid of acne but with enough patience and dedication you can get there :)
Personally I needed more of a hands on learning experience when I got into skincare, Gothamista, a youtuber is what helped me get into it. She can be a bit gimmicky sometimes but she's in the business and everything she says is backed hard by research. Skincare is ultimately a science, so there's a lot of debate between people on things, and not a lot of reliability unless you try it yourself, so take everything with a grain of salt. Sorry for typing a book, lol!
Edit: And fifty shades of snail, undoubtedly one of the most popular bloggers.
I have dehydrated skin (looks oily, feels dry), and this stuff works for me. If I need a bit extra during the winter months, HA from Hada Labo or The Ordinary (containing Alpha Arbutin) has helped.
Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (toner) is a HG for many on this sub. Personally, it was meh for me. I'd recommend Klairs Supple Prep toner, it's great. If you have dry skin, try the 7 skin method with it. It's pricey, though, Hada Labo is a drugstore product (edit: okay, apparently I remembered the price wrong, lol, it's on sale on Wishtrend, you might try it if you like). If you want, I'll expand more on why I like Supple Prep and why I prefer it to Hada.
Many swear by Kiku-Masamune lotion (toner) and Cezanne and Rosette products (they contain HA). You'll get the gist of what's recommended and why from the sidebar links. Oh, and Dr. Jart products. Ceramidin Liquid is popular and other products in the line.
The ingredients that work are basically the same as with Western skincare as far as hydration goes. Glycerin, hyaluronic acid, niacinamide, ceramides (+cholesterol+phytosphingosine; you can read up on ceramides here ), the likes. I think snail secretion is supposed to be hydrating but I haven't used it yet so I'm not sure, you'll need to research that.
Just a heads up, butylene glycol is used a lot in AB products and it breaks some people out.
Personally, I avoid HA because I have a suspicion it breaks me out though I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Lately I've been thinking if it's not butylene glycol.
edit: Hada Labo lotion
Klairs Supple Prep
Thank u. Is this the HA lotion u use
So it would be safe to use in coordination with differin then? I ask because I was eyeing the Hada Labo moisturizer since it has good ravings here.
Where does Hado Labo Lotion go in the routine? I've seen differing information on when "lotions" should be applied.
Has Hada Labo's packaging design changed? Just got my Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion in the mail today and it does not have the same bottle design as it does on Amazon. Here is what the bottle I got looks like: link. Should I be worried? And if they changed the packaging does that mean they changed the ingredients too?
You need to let us know the exact product you're using. A "gentle" X doesn't mean much; I've seen products labeled "gentle" that are filled with problematic ingredients. If it's just a regular oil, what kind? Lots of "good" facial oil can be super good for some people while being triggering others.
Is it a properly manufactured oil cleanser, one that rinse off cleanly? Or one that still leaves residue behind? Oil residues can clog up your pores - especially when it has impurities that wasn't properly washed off your face inside it. This is why I'm a big fan of the Asian "double cleansing" method: use a good manufactured oil cleanser that emulsifies properly then follow up with a 2nd cleanser that get rids of the oil residue and water solubles. Cerave Hydrating Cleanser is a top choice here. The Neutrogena Ultra Gentle Daily Cleanser (creamy, fragrance free) is also good.
Having tight/dry skin is a classic symptom of your moisture barrier being damaged. And a compromised moisture barrier is very prone to acne. I would drop all the products other than pure Vaseline and a pH-balanced cleanser listed above.
Vaseline retains 99% of the skin's trans-epidermal water loss (TEWL) - thus preserving the moisture that the skin need to heal. Apply a thin layer of Vaseline in the morning and a thicker layer at night. Keep this up for at least a couple days to a week and reexamine your progress. Once your skin is less tight/irritated, you can consider adding a serum to help boost the process. Some good and cheap ones are The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5, and The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc.
I personally really like these Japanese ones: a watery, hydrating "lotion" toner <- this is to be kept on the skin, not wiped off. And also a a thicker serum.
Then you can start adding a regular moisturizer with ceramides in it, Cerave PM lotion is very good as long as you are not allergic/sensitive to fatty alcohols (the good type of alcohol).
Is Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion Moist the same as the Smooth version? I'm looking on Amazon and the pictures are exactly the same but the price is different.
Same seller as well. Which one should I buy?
[link] This is not a fake, is it? I mean, it's sold by Amazon (and was recced here).
Potentially Dumb Question here
Is there a difference between
Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion?
Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist?
For the dehydrated skin, I highly recommend a product formulated around hyaluronic acid. I really like one by Hado Labo. Keeps the skin supple.
My HG moisturizer, which has been great for my acne-prone skin, is DDF Ultra lite Moisturizing Dew. Of course run it through CosDNA and make sure it doesn't include any of your personal acne triggers. It's heaven on my skin.
I like the hada labo one. I have this one . It's more slimy than sticky, I think.
Where can I get Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion in Tokyo or Osaka?
This is the product I am referring to:
I'm really afraid that rubbing the products might spread bacteria all over my face so I try to be as gentle as I can. Is it this one?
The Issue: I don't know what's wrong with my face (besides ugly). There's like this faint redness everywhere and I want to get rid of it or have some kind of clearer-looking skin. I'm basically looking to add something to my daily routine, like just one product, that'll make me feel better about not doing anything about it. I'm thinking of just buying the Hadalobo Lotion since it seems cheap and recommended on this sub and trying this out to see if it helps solve my problem. However I don't know if that'll work for what I'm trying to do, so I'm asking for help to make sure this is a good idea.
Skin Type: My guess is that it's a combination of all types that cause redness. I have been frustratingly reading to try to find out what the difference is between dry/dehydrated skin, but tbh I think I have both because I can't tell what the difference is. Hopefully the picture helps
Current Routine: Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser, twice a day (morning and evening). I've been doing this for years now. I have tried using a hydrating light moisturizer by Simple (has vitamins B5, E, glycerin, borage seed oil, no perfume or dyes) and I haven't really felt like I noticed any changes. Could be because I'm not using it often enough (like once a week?) and it also causes a slight stinging sensation after usage.
Random additional information: It has been winter/cold here but spring is approaching, I've stopped taking hot showers (just learned a few weeks ago that it caused red/dryskin), I change my pillow sheets often, I have a pretty oily diet, I don't take meds and I don't have any known allergies, I don't get a lot of sun exposure, I do get stressed a lot but I think I handle it well, I drink a lot of water, I exercise often, I do not use a humidifier, don't drink/smoke, and I get about 6.5-7 hours sleep daily.
is this the hada labo lotion you're talking about or is it the milky one?
They always had a few versions Moist, light, whitening and red one etc. The moist hydrating is the moist. Sometimes on Amazon and other sites they don't say if it's moist. They use different packaging in different countries. The light one has more green.
The moist looks like this:
This is the light one looks like this:
They have a new premium one that is supposed to be even more hydrating. It's in a gold bottle
I'm kind of in your boat. When I switched from the pill to a hormonal IUD (Mirena), I got this really weird neck breakout (I'd never had acne on my neck before). The breakout started in mid July, lasted around 1.5 months. It was never severe, just oddly placed for me and persistent. I love my IUD and super light periods that come maybe every 2-3 months, and, like you, I'm not good at taking the pill on time. So I figured I'd do my best to attack the acne, even when I kind of knew the cause.
Try out the beginner's routine linked in the sidebar. Don't go too crazy adding multiple products at once in case one breaks you out or is irritating. For example, CeraVe "in the tub" (cream) is a holy grail for many people on this sub, but it gives me horrendous acne.
If you stick with the BP/tret scrip, find a moisturizer and sunscreen that work well for you. Both of those ingredients are known to work quite well, but they can be pretty irritating, especially in the first ~4 weeks, and tret is photosensitizing (i.e. makes your skin burn and get damaged more readily). Also give them time to work. Retinoids like tretinoin can often take up to 12 weeks for a positive effect. BP tends to work much faster. Use a thin layer of the tret, and if it's too irritating scale back to every other day until you tolerate it better.
Regarding product recommendations: BP and tret will dry you out and irritate your skin at first. Stay with very gentle products. If you're interested in the oil cleansing mentioned in the sidebar (whether or not you follow it up with a foamy cleanser), that can be pretty gentle and non-drying. Otherwise, a gentle cleanser. Don't add any new topicals for now. Your skin will be kind of pissed off at you for a bit while it gets used to the BP and tret. Moisturize, a lot. I've had terrible luck finding moisturizers that don't break me out - cerave cream felt fantastic but broke me out like crazy. I now use (and adore) this Hada Labo "lotion" (more like a thin gel, but works fantastically) and, at night before bed, top it with a water-soaked compressed mask to give the hyaluronic acid in the lotion lots of moisture to pull in, since the air is super dry where I am right now. For sunscreens, I love love love Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence. Be sure and patch test that one if you try it out, since there's some alcohol in there that could be irritating on top of the tret. In terms of topicals, I have a niacinamide/azelaic acid/clindamycin combo from Curology that has worked wonders for me. I've used BP and retinoids in the past and my skin was just too sensitive for them.
My current routine (Curology topical + keep everything else gentle + finding a moisturizer that doesn't break me out) has really helped with the acne I suspected was from my switch to the IUD!
So, first of all, both vitamin C and mandelic acid increase photosensitivity, meaning that if you do incorporate either product, it'll be extra important to use an effective sunscreen, and to use it properly.
I would personally recommend switching from physical to chemical exfoliation. Mandelic acid is an alpha hydroxy acid (AHA). AHAs dissolve the bonds between dead skin cells, which can improve the appearance and texture of skin. Mandelic acid is typically considered to be a gentle, skin-friendly AHA, so it does sound like a good choice for you.
To reduce the risk of irritation or imbalance:
You could also try a low concentration daily AHA, like Nip + Fab Glycolic Fix Pads, which are soaked in 2.8% glycolic acid (an AHA). If you do choose a daily chemical exfoliant, I would suggest using it 3-4 times per week at first, rather than every day.
Vitamin C may prevent and even reverse some photo-ageing, so it could definitely be a good option for you. However, vitamin C can definitely cause irritation and increased sensitivity, so do not start the vitamin C and the mandelic acid peel at the same time. Wait until your skin has adjusted to one of those products before trying the other. Again, be sure to patch test and to give your skin time to recover between applications.
The sidebar has some recommendations for vitamin C serums.
Based on your description, I'm not really sure whether your skin is dehydrated, but there's no serious reason not to see whether hyaluronic acid works for you, especially since 'actives' like AHAs and vitamin C can weaken your skin's natural barrier and lead to dehydration. Remember, though, that SCA recommends only starting one product at a time so that you can identify the cause of any irritation.
Skin dehydration can be treated using a humectant, like hyaluronic acid (HA), which attracts and holds water. Try applying an HA serum, like one of the three recommended in the dehydrated skin post linked in the sidebar (Garden of Wisdom; Hada Labo, which I use and love; and Indeed hydraluron, which I used to use and found very effective, but it unfortunately irritated my skin) to damp or wet skin and following it with a layer of petroleum jelly.
There's a chance your skin could be dehydrated if it's dry yet oily too.
Here's a great post from SCA about dehydrated skin. She also goes more in depth in post two.
A lot of us layer different products in order to add moisture. I've noticed that thick products (like CeraVe in the tub) break me out because they're too heavy on my face, even though my U-zone is dry dry dry.
The Hada Labo Gokujyn Lotion is highly recommended for adding hydration.
The HL lotion is japanese and has the consistency of water. You would pat this onto your face after cleansing. You can also soak these square cotton pads and make a mask for your face like how Youtuber Hanbyul demonstrates in her routine video.
Great post from SCA about dehydrated skin. Part two might include more of what you're looking for.
Skin & Tonic's blog post on repairing the acid mantle/moisture barrier is informative and has great product recs.
The Hada Labo Gokujyn Lotion is highly recommended for adding hydration.
Lastly, here are a couple threads on eye creams
Best eye cream to banish dark circles?
any winter eye serum + eye cream recommendations for dehydrated skin?
Hyaluronic acid is a key ingredient here. It helps your skin absorb moisture and feels nice and soothing on the skin. Some awesome products that also have hyaluronic acid include:
Rohto Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (Moist)
This is a Japanese toner used before a moisturizer that seals in moisture and helps your skin absorb the moisturizer. It's a thin, slightly sticky consistency that you smooth over damp skin and pat dry. I use this every night after washing my face and before moisturizing. Keeps my skin plump and as soft as an angel's butt.
CeraVe Moisturizing Facial Lotion PM
This is very similar to the Cerave in the tub cream, a cult fave here on SCA. I prefer this one however because it has niacinamide in addition to hyaluronic acid and triglycerides, which give you that nice feeling when you apply your moisturizer. It's super cheap in comparison to other products that have the same (or similar) ingredients. Definitely a very underrated product that I recommend!
I hope this helps! If you have any questions please feel free to PM me or reply to this comment! Good luck and happy skincare!
Is this the one that you ordered?
So, a toner isn't a necessary step in a routine, but it can be useful to get some extra beneficial ingredients into your skin. You'd use it after cleansing and before moisturizing.
If your skin is dry, you could try a toner with glycerin or hyaluronic acid. Unfortunately, we're a little deprived in terms of product recommendations, but you could take a look at the Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, or Paula's Choice Moisture Boost toner.
I'm sure there are loads of other options as well; if glycerin or hyaluronic acid is reasonably high on the ingredient list, and "Alcohol", "Alcohol Denat" or "Isopropyl Alcohol" is either not present, or very low on the list - it's probably a useful toner for your skin.
Hope that helps!
I have rosacea and suffer from red, flakey skin particularly in the winter. I've found using the OCM with an oil cleanser that contains emulsifying agents (so that it washes clean vs. leaves a film) has been really helpful for my skin because it doesn't require double cleansing afterwards with a foaming cleanser, or use of a microfiber towel or konjac sponge to remove any oil that might be remaining on my face. I just gently massage the oil cleanser onto my dry face, then use a bit of water to emulsify it in my hands until it turns cloudy. Then it washes away easily.
EDIT: I don't wash my face in the morning--just splash gently with water.
For moisturizers, I cycle through several different products, depending on the state of my skin. For me the key is layering different products (sort of Asian skincare style) and using a combination of humectant and emollient ingredients. Right now I've been using Rohto Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion, CeraVe PM lotion, passion fruit seed (maracuja) oil and this very thick cream that I can't remember the name of.. I will update when I'm home!
Hey! I am looking for a really effective moisturizer to use overnight that wont break me out. In the Dehydrated Skin sticky on the sidebar, the user highly recommends Hadalobo Lotion bu the amazon reviews for that product seem to imply that it is more a toner and is best used with cotton pads. I'm wondering if this Hadalobo Cream would do the same thing and be effective without cotton pads? I'm also wondering how the Hyaluronic Acid would with with my PC C15 Vitamin C serum - is it okay to use the both together at night? Which one should I apply first?
Also - does anyone have recommendations for moisturizer that has SPF? I am using Cetaphil right now but it really burns my eyes if it gets into them.
Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion
Argan oil, passionfruit seed oil and rosehips seed oil (I get mine from SkinActives and GoW)
are all products I've had success with.
Skin and Tonics blog was a huge educator for me and really helped me a lot (along with this sub and /r/asianbeauty) to find suitable products for my skin type/goals - worth checking those out, if you haven't already!
Check out the basic routine for dry skin! [link]
I've been using the Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion as a step before my moisturizer (CeraVe in the tub) and it helps draw in more moisture to my skin. Also consider adding a thin layer of an occlusive like Vaseline over your moisturizer, which helps lock in the moisture.
I've also starting using an AHA exfoliant in the last couple of months, which has helped with dryness and flakiness, but I'd start with just adding a hyaluronic acid and Vaseline.
OMG did I forget the links! I'm so dumb! Here they are :p
Well, I didn't start breaking out until after I had been consistently using the sunscreen for about a month. When I don't use the sunscreen, but continue using the coconut oil, my skin looks great.
I'll definitely look into both of those products and oils as alternative options, thank you.
I was thinking this morning that I might just need to alter my routine pattern a bit. Perhaps I could wash my face in the morning, use my toner (this), then do the sunscreen; then at night I could wash my face again, use the toner, then put on the coconut oil and let it just soak in over night. That way I'd avoid the double dose of oil, but still get their individual benefits, and I could put on the sunscreen without my skin being oiled up.
Also, thank you for actually taking the time to read through my post and putting in the effort to give a thorough, polite, and relevant reply. I greatly appreciate it.