Your skin needs moisture. The extra oil it's producing is often times a sign of dehydrated skin.
What I recommend is a good lotion. Maybe a toner, too. And a face wash.
Try this:
Cerave hydrating face wash
Hada Labo gokujyn lotion (this is the toner) and can be found on amazon very cheaply. It's a very moisturizing product and is highly recommended by the /r/asianbeauty sub. Edit: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml)
And my favorite lotion is Cerave lotion. However, if you choose not to go with that, just make sure that dimithicone, cyclomethicone or cyclopentasiloxane are somewhere in the ingredients, preferably near the first few ingredients listed. Also try Cetaphil lotion.
You wash, tone, lotion. You can repeat this day and night.
I do recommend a sunscreen, but at fifty, you might be less inclined and there are not any actives in this routine. If you're feeling spendy, you can opt for the Cerave AM lotion, which has some spf in it.
Vaseline is also good if the lotion doesn't seem like enough. Just put a thin layer on at night.
Idk your hygiene routine, but it might also help to wipe your CPAC mask down with alcohol every couple of days or every day. Even if you never have done so in the past, skin can change and by the sound of it, seems like yours has.
Tbh I don't think it's the percentage of hyaluronic acid that makes the Gokujyun lotion so great, but the molecular weight of it. The lotion uses a low molecular weight of HA which is more bioavailable, i.e. it will sink deeper into your skin rather than just sitting on top. The Gokujyun lotion actually uses 5 different types of HA with different molecular weights which, in theory, can hang onto moisture in varying levels of your skin. HA is also only effective in skincare products up to a certain concentration, so trying to maximize the amount of HA you get per dollar spent is probably going to be a waste of time at a certain point.
As far as cost is concerned, I got mine on Amazon for about $10. I'm really pleased with it so far and don't think I am missing out on any HA goodness because it's only $10.
Yay! I’m glad to hear that.
I use Cerave! But when my skin was super dry/dehydrated I started also using Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid lotion and it saved my skin and made it more normal than dry. If you’re interested, you can buy it on Amazon and should use it after you cleanse while your face is still a little wet. Then let it soak in - no rinsing required! Follow with moisturizer. On amazon here: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8K4YBb80CSH1B
I think as long as you don’t buy it from the “other sellers” list, it’s fine! I’ve bought this one a few times: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8W6QDFYRWVMP3ESZ9TZG And it’s always the real thing!
I use a Japanese (Rohto hadalabo gokujun hyaluronic acid lotion is Japanese, right? I should know where my products come from...) product, but you may be able to find it in Seoul. Or you can look for a similar product. The Hyaluronic acid is the ingredient you'd want to look for. It's very hydrating. I use it before a heavy moisturinf cream (cetaphil in the tub) and it helps my very dry, dehydration-prone skin a lot.
Amazon link so you can compare to local stuff, if you can see the link: Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist 5.7floz/170ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_NPJnub06NJ807
I'm seconding the recommendation for the Hada Labo lotion as a thin layer underneath another moisturiser. That stuff is designed to suck water into the skin and holy moly does it work for dry, flaky nose patches! I got mine on Amazon but I think it might be in Target in the states.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rohto-Hadalabo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B00BSNBO9O
Amazon carries lots of Hada Labo. Drugstore.com carries some too. For Hyaluronic Acid this toner is great, though often it's on Amazon Prime:
Biore Watery Essence is popular sunscreen though it has a good amount of alcohol so it's not for everyone. It's lightweight though . Shiseido Senka Aging has way less alcohol if you are dryer.
Examples available at Canadian drugstores- Aqualia Thermal Power Serum Vichy, Indeed Laboratories Hydraluron Moisture Serum
As others have mentioned, Deciem is a Canadian company and that would be my go to- The Ordinary has a very inexpensive HA + B5 serum, and then there is the Hylamide HA Booster and NIOD MMHC serum. These can be found online or in physical stores in some of the larger centres.
AB also has some great HA products- Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist is a popular choice, and readily available on amazon.
I love the Hadalabo solution very very much. I can't use the Premium version because my skin hates urea even though it's supposed to be amazing. However, I've used thiswhite label one for years and I looooooove it.
Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion is the only product that I've never taken out of my routine. Where I'm from, the price is usually between 21CAD to 24CAD (there's several in person shops I check and compare prices). To get the most out of the lotion/toner, I apply 2 drops on a DAMP(very important) face, immediately followed by my moisturizer. I haven't kept track of how long it lasts since my sister often steals it from me, but it should last you well over 2 months if you use it twice daily.
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I use the "moist" -- there seems to be so many different kinds! Here it is on amazon.
These are the ingredients: Water, Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Disodium Succinate, Hydrolyzed Hyaluronic Acid, Hydroxyethlcellulose, Methylparaben, PPG-10 Methyl Glucose Ether, Sodium Acetylated Hyaluronate, Sodium Hyaluronate, Succinic Acid
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If it is indeed just dry scalp and not fungal, I’ve personally had great results using hada labo face toner in a scalp squirt bottle before washing (let it sit on scalp and massage at least 5 minutes or until dry) and then a little right after towel drying. Doesn’t leave the rest of my hair greasy and moisturizes my scalp like a dream.
On amazon https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
It’s technically a facial product but it’s the only thing that works for me.
Thanks so much for your comment! Question, why is it better as a serum? I read this Amazon product page for the hada labo lotion and there was a comment saying the mask helps it stay wetter and in contact with the skin longer, which helps the hyaluronic acid soak in. Is that misleading?
I'll definitely check out those other products! Would you recommend using more than one at a time? Thanks!
The essence of serum that works for most everyone is a Japanese product called Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion. It has Hyaluronic Acid, which hydrates your skin.
Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_7oIFAbJ23TYZW
I can get some cosrx products here! But amazon is seriously lacking for a lot of things, plus I'm terrified of getting fake products. I found it on amazon here but it says it contains Methylparaben so I'm not sure if I want to use it? Tbh I don't really know the troubles with it but I know it's explicitly stated if it's not contained in something. unsure :P
I really love Rosette Ceramide Gel, but it almost feels like an occlusive, and doesn't really sink into your skin - in my experience, it feels more like an occlusive than the Mizon gel that you're using. I would also agree with that for the Ceracolla gel, though Belif's is a bit more watery.
Maybe a moisturizing toner step (like Hada Labo) would work well for you!
I read about this on a Cosmo article and after like 2 weeks of using it I am so impressed with it! It’s worked miracles on my skin and I haven’t broken out once! Best of all, everyone has complimented how clear my skin is looking! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hadarabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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I've been using this one from Hada Labo. I don't love how liquid-y it is, but it's made my skin really soft. Could be a good option for you, as it goes on really lightly.
Hey everyone,
me again.. I decided that I'm going to wait with the retinoid/retinol a bit longer. Will do some more research in the coming weeks/months before deciding on a product.. maybe asking a dermatologist for some advice.
Anyway, I'm (male) still looking for 3 products which I'd like to purchase tonight/tomorrow.
1) Japanese Cleanser (or those popular Face Wash Foams..). Which should I go for? Only one would be enough, right?
2) Japanese Lotion/Toner (which I'm also going to use for the popular "Lotion Mask" from time to time.. not daily though, of course).
3) Japanese Moisturizer
The routine would look like this (morning+evening).
Cleanser/Face Wash -> Lotion/Toner -> Moisturizer
(You wash off the cleanser/face wash foam with water, correct? And leave the Lotion/Toner + Moisturizer on).
Anyway...
Lots of people recommended the popular Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion/Toner.
Which would be this one here, correct?
There's also a similar one on amazon.de which doesn't have "acid" in the name.. and one which says "(Moist) Light Type".
Which one should I go for? Probably just the one I linked above?
If all that is okay, then I still need a good cleanser/face wash foam and moisturizer.
Maybe someone could help me? I'd really appreciate it. I waited long enough, but can't decide what to get.
Apparently Hada Labo has good cleansers/face wash foam and mousturizers as well, but I can't seem to find a popular one.
It'd be great if it's also available on amazon.de
Sorry for bothering you folks. Appreciate all the help, I really do.
No problem! Just remember it's all about consistency. You might have a naturally more difficult skin type to deal with (and who knows, it could be that hard water or some other environmental factor is exacerbating this), but you can definitely take steps to reduce the appearance of the dryness and acne, and make your skin look and feel healthier overall. I think you would benefit a lot from this HA serum: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And just so I'm getting a good picture of what your skin is like, when you say cleansing 2x/day, was that with water alone, with the Cerave Hydrating, or with the Fresh Soy? And were you moisturizing after you cleansed, and what were you moisturizing with?
I actually thought the cetyl alcohol was bad so glad to hear its good. Its actually the first and only moisturiser i've ever used, it is quite thick and does take a long time to fully sink in, so I'll do some research fo a new one. And yes sorry I should of wrote the correct name of it, the hada lobo toner I use is this one- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hadarabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O
Also the suncreen also is quite thick and seems to sit on top of the rest of the products so it may be time to find a new sunscreen, again its also the first and only sunscreen ive used. The weather varies day to day in Manchester (UK) it has become really really cold the last few weeks. I have been looking at gel moisturisers lately, but unsure whether they will be more beneficial than typical creams. Do you have any recomendations of moisturisers and occulusives I could maybe look into purchasing that are best for the am? And yes thank you i'll take a break from the niacinimide to see if anything improves, hopefully it will. Thank you for your detailed response I never even considered that my skin could be drying out bevause everything seemed normal. Thank you again.
Hyaluronic acid is a popular facial moisturizer. You can look for lotions that have it as an ingredient, or this is the item I use after showering. Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz.
It's a thin liquid that I drop on a cotton square and apply to my face. It pulls water into your skin, so make sure you only apply it after showering or it can give you opposite results. I often drop some water on my cotton square to make sure I'm not applying to dry skin. Alcohol free, hopefully it won't sting you.
I bought the hada labogokujyun lotion because I was under the impression it was a moisturizer. Upon putting it on my face I thought it felt more like a toner. Is it toner or a moisturizer? I was hoping to replace my cerave moisturizer.... lol Here's the link.
Really hard to tell from a picture, but your skin might be dehydrated?
I would stop using the Noxzema (it's pretty harsh/drying) and add in a moisturizing toner before your apply your sunscreen in the morning and before the CeraVe PM at night. The two toners I've used and liked are Paula's Choice skin recovery (they sell other toners as well) and this Hadalabo one. Although I will say that the rest of your routine looks pretty good already. You might just need to add products until you find something that gives you the results you want.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rohto-Hadalabo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486742336&sr=8-1&keywords=hada+labo+gokujyun has great reviews so I can try this one
I can't read anything on it though, wasn't sure if it was a Toner but I read the comments and it looks like it is!
So with this... I'll Cleanse, then BHA, wait 10-20 min, then AHA, 10-20 min, apply moisturizer, and then nothing.
In the morning I'll then Cleanse, apply the toner, and Sunscreen. (I'd BHA in the morning, but I don't want to wake up that much earlier. I usually just get up and go to work after I wash my face)
Thank you for all your help! Seriously
This one https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O. Half my face tested. Half my face CCs. Some people get that reaction. I've seen the light recced since it doesn't seem to have that reaction or the Kikumasamune lotion.
That's ok! It's definitely something I can relate to and I know how frustrating not being able to find something that works for you is. For the Habo Lado I use this one:
If you tried the PM before and it didn't work, it's entirely possible that it just won't work for you so you don't necessarily have to buy that one again! I just figured it might be a good one to try again if you still had some left. I would just use whatever you've got at home already with the habo lado. See how it goes and if it's not working well enough for you then you can go from there :)
As for the Vaseline, just any old Vaseline will do. It shouldn't clog your pores or break you out but it will just 'sit' on your face until you wash it off. You will look ridiculous but just give it a few tries! Just wash it off in the morning, avoid towel drying your face (so that there's still water on your skin), put some of the Habo Lado on while your face is still damp, then your moisturiser, then your makeup for the morning and Vaseline at night :)
I've only ever purchased the Japanese version:
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
But if you want to order the American iteration from target, the second link is the right one. The first has retinol, which is a potent active you definitely want to avoid if you're experiencing severe dehydration.
Also this is more of a cheap serum, absorbs into your skin really well and helps hold in moisture with no greasy residue or even the slightest drag... it's incredibly light and slippery https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
You can also get the Japanese version of this product on Amazon Prime for way cheaper.
Is the Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion Moist just another name for the Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion? I ordered one from this listing on Amazon and the name there says Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion Moist but the label on my bottle that just arrived says Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion. I've never tried this before so maybe I'm just a noob who thought there were different versions (other than the light one, I know that one has green packaging and the milk has pink)
I've only used the Sebamed and I like it a lot! It doesn't do enough hydrating for me because I'm a 0.075% tretinoin user. I use Hada Labo Gokujyun lotion/toner before the Sebamed. It's got a very watery texture that's more like a slippery toner.
I have not. The one I tried is this one here There are so many variations of the name I'm not so sure what the real name is! Hada Labo HA Lotion/ Lotion Moist? What is in the premium version that separates them?
Hmmm, this one is actually the one I have- it's definitely the hyaluronic acid lotion, but neither milky nor light. Honestly, I have barely tipped my big toe into the wellspring of knowledge that is /r/AsianBeauty, so their assessments here would probably be far more valuable than mine!
Definitely the Hada Labo Lotion Here if you're looking for something moisturising. It's really great.
What's your current routine btw? As a rule I suggest the four basics, 1+2 cleanser, moisturiser and suncream before adding toners and essences.
Thanks! I'll definitely try that. I haven't really had anything light to buffer with, but I do buffer with cetaphil on and off depending how my skin is doing. I've been wanting to try the Hado Labo lotion and now I have an excuse? Is the the one that everyone seems to love on here? http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_mini_detail&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I swear by this stuff. I have acne prone, dry skin and I added this into my skincare routine between my toner and my moisturizer and it soothes my skin and helps my moisturizer really sink in and makes the most of it. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
I have hormonal acne as well and sometimes foundation can just look too heavy on my skin or I can't be bothered to put it on. For one (like most people are saying in this thread) I moisturize before I do anything to my face I also use this:
at night after toner and before moisturizing and it has changed my life. It really helps my skin make the most of my moisturizer,which is the Cerave in the big tub.
Instead of foundation on normal days I use Bare Minerals Complexion Rescue. It's a BB cream but it feels light, goes on easy and covers very well. I've also heard great things about the IT Cosmetics CC+ Cream and have used a sample that I thought was great. Until I found my HG foundation, I thought I looked old too, but I switched from NARS to the Sephora brand airbrush foundation. It's so light and sits on my skin really well and covers, but doesn't cake onto my acne. A mid coverage foundation that you can build on is the way to go because anything high coverage just cakes and looks bad.
Edit: also as someone mentioned in this thread, is dewy vs matte. I used to be all about matte and never wanted any kind of dewy look or shimmer, but I found that when I highlight I can glow and it makes me look more awake and younger.
I’m looking for something that will end my affair with dry/dehydrated skin. I’m very sensitive to fatty alcohols, so finding something moisturizing without those is a real struggle. After browsing AB for a bit, it looks like Hada Labo Gokujyn lotion is going to be my gateway drug into the world of Asian skincare! Just to be sure, this is the one I’ll want to get right?. I’m really on the fence about buying skincare from places like ebay, afraid of getting fake products that are unsafe. This one is sold by Amazon. I can trust this to be the real deal right? Thanks!
Oh sweet, I'll definitely experimenting with wait times - I honestly hardly wait as it is but I was going to be a good girl with my new routine :P
Thanks, I'll go check some oils out. I did just order a variety of sheet masks, so I'm hoping they'll help as well. I'm not sure about the Hada Labo, the one I bought is this one Thanks for your help :)
My first big breakthrough in dealing with tret was learning that occlusive products/moisturizers did nothing if my skin wasn't hydrated first. After I double cleanse and tone, I like to use hydrating lotions to plump up my skin (this is what I use) followed by a cream (usually a thin layer of Cozrx rice sleeping pack) or oil. Right now I'm loving the random bottle of argan oil that I picked up at TJMaxx. It smells so good and feels like nothing!
After I apply these, I'll wait around for ten or twenty minutes, then apply the tret. Yes, it does reduce the effectiveness of the medication, but my skin doesn't get flaky or irritated afterwards. Sometimes I follow it up with a moisturizing sleeping pack. Before I figured out my "system," my skin would be painfully dry and would break out (usually in closed comedones, but that's the most common type of acne that I would get). I also don't use the tret every night, more like every other night. It just depends on how my skin feels. Hydration is key!
Also, if my skin gets irritated from the tret or any other active that I might be using, I've found aloe vera masks to work wonders at keeping my skin calm and hydrated. There's a ton of different types out there, and the type that I use was just another random find at a store.
is this the lotion that everyone's been talking about? I have dry/sensitive skin. Theres so many different hada labo ones that i'm so confused as to which one is the one everyone uses
Yeah :) Although, from what I google now about Nivea creme, it seems it moisturizes with mineral oil/petrolaum also, so vaseline wouldn't be extremely different from that. Maybe something with ceramides?
Using hyaluronic acid (a humectant) is also an amazing hydration step that made a big difference for me. I personally got this cheap toner. TBH getting into the /r/asianbeauty life was really what helped my skin finally stop being dehydrated and get into healing mode.
Again, though, maybe just cutting out the exfoliation for a while will be good enough. It wasn't for me, unfortunately ;_;
If you haven't tried this already it might work: Hada Labo Lotion http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
It took me about two months to notice, but one morning when I was putting makeup on my active breakouts I saw that they didn't look all flakey and dry like they usually do. If it's in your budget you should give it a try! I just slap it on and pat it in, then moisturize right after.
I usually pick mine up from YesStyle, but that's only because I'm a gold member so I get free express shipping and usually have some vouchers to cash in. Without those it's way cheaper to get it on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O
I just bought this hada labo gokjyun (won't get here for a while) and now I'm suddenly confused about where it goes in a routine. Is it a first-step toner after actives?
Thanks for putting out all that info. I am 52 and wish this sub was more active too. I ordered the Rohto Hada lotion/toner. I am going to try the technique the first review said- to put on layers of soaked cotton pads onto the skin.
so late but here goes nothing. can you tell me if this is what you're talking about? http://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436281083&sr=8-1&keywords=Hada+Labo+Gokujyun+Lotion
so late but here goes nothing. can you tell me if this is what you're talking about? http://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436281083&sr=8-1&keywords=Hada+Labo+Gokujyun+Lotion
so late but here goes nothing. can you tell me if this is what you're talking about? http://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436281083&sr=8-1&keywords=Hada+Labo+Gokujyun+Lotion
Are you using a lot of moisturizer? Sometimes you only need a small pea sized dollop to cover the dry areas. I use 3-4 drops of a very lightweight Asian moisturizer all over my face (seriously, it's like spreading water on my face) and a very thin layer of cetaphil cream on the very dry areas. Total game changer.
5.7 fluid ounces (~85% left), and it is the regular Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist. Amazon link
I can give you quick tips because I only have a few minutes to post but: I only recognize the Cerave Cleanser and Lotion but I can't attest to how good they are. Can I ask why you're using two BHAs?
As far as your dry skin: I'd suggest buying Hada Labo Gokujyun Hyaluronic Lotion on Amazon here. This goes PRE-MOISTURIZER and is supposed to help the moisturizer be better absorbed and make your skin softer. It is hydrating on its own. Apply, wait 5-10 minutes to absorb, then apply moisturizer. Use this as often and liberally as you want, although at some point you're just being wasteful. I linked because the Hada labo product names are very similar and very confusing at times.
For your acne scars, people have been raving about OST C20 or OST C21.5 (the sequel product) Vitamin C Serum. It is fantastic stuff. If you're interested, please search through /r/asianbeauty because there is a huge amount of info on the product and how to use it. It is up to you how dry your skin is and if you "need" it.
Some may suggest a sleeping pack at night. This would go over your moisturizer. So it would be Hada Labo Lotion --> Cerave Moisturizing Lotion --> Sleeping Pack (please look through /r/asianbeauty!). The sleeping pack is only nightly and will help hydrate the skin.
Hmm... I think mine is a different version from Muse's, as it dispenses into the palm. Here is what I bought. Users/reviewers say to pat it into the skin until it feels tacky.
Do NOT use skinfood toners. They tend to go heavy on the alcohol with most of their toners and that will not work well on sensitive skin.
I personally enjoy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AFPJU03IRVMQW
It says lotion but it's an Asian toner.
I have this one (hyaluronic lotion) - not sure if that's the same as the "cream" but I really like it. It holds in moisture, so when I use it (I do: cleansing -> vit C -> Missha FTE -> Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid lotion -> moisturizer) it really keeps my face moisturized. If I used it in place of a moisturizer on dry skin, I don't think it would work as well.
Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist
I've only used this on my face, but it's oil-free and won't get slippery if/when you get sweaty like lotion tends to do. It has a watery texture, not quite a gel but thicker than water. You only need a couple drops for your whole face so I'd imagine it could go a long way on your body too. It's best to put on slightly moist skin such as after you shower, but for my face sometimes I just wet my face and towel dry before I apply it.
I have super dry skin on my arms and legs too, so at night after I shower I use oil (mineral, coconut, avocado, vitamin e are all good) before I go to bed to seal in moisture and let my skin heal from flakes. It completely absorbs by morning and also doesn't get slippery again if I get sweaty (like during run sessions) or wet (from rain or humidity).
I hiiiighly recommend this if you have dry skin: http://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic-Lotion-5-7floz/dp/B00BSNBO9O
It can be tricky to use since Japanese skincare is different from what westerners are used to. You rub it into damp skin right after cleansing and then apply moisturizer. It's awesome.
They are, but I've found that the American retailers of Hada Labo charge a lot more than it costs to get the Japanese version from, well, basically anywhere.
Case in point, Ulta's Hada Labo Hydrator is $9 when it's half off for 1.7 fluid ounces of product.
Amazon Prime has the Hada Labo Gokujyun Moist for a little under $12 for 5.7 ounces of product.
Amazon usually has good sellers.
Hada Labo Lotion: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/
Sunscreens: https://www.amazon.com/Biore-Sarasara-Watery-Essence-Sunscreen/dp/B00LA6QEOE/
I've bought both and as far as I can tell, they're legit!
It's the Hada Labo Gokujyun lotion in the moist type. Here's a link to it on amazon
I bought mine off Amazon and it was prime, heres the listing
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
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this is a "hydrating lotion" in asian beauty but its used like a western toner. My skin loves it! Its unscented and helps draw in moisture.
I recommend using a hydrating toner and 5% urea cream. Read this post for more info about urea: https://thenakedchemist.com/what-is-urea-and-its-benefits-in-skincare/.
These Hada Labo toners are super popular:
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujyun-Premium-Hyaluronic-5-7floz/dp/B06X3R1LL3
Eucerin Advanced Repair products contain 5% urea. This cream is popular, and if you live in the US it should be easy to find in a physical store:
https://www.amazon.com/Eucerin-Advanced-Repair-Creme-Packaging/dp/B01DIXHNUU
How long were you on Accutane? My best friend had to do it twice before it fixed her acne, and she still uses topical clindamycin, I believe. You should return to whoever prescribed your Accutane before and show them the state of your skin.
In terms of over the counter treatment, it sounds like your skin may be dehydrated. The typically recommended treatment for dehydrated skin is humectant+water followed by an occlusive. I'll break that down:
Step one: wash your face but don't dry it
Step two: apply a humectant to your wet face.
A humectant is hydrophilic, which means it attracts water. Most people recommend hyaluronic acid, which is an extremely effective humectant. Hada Labo makes some very popular hyaluronic acid serums. A version is available at CVS and Ulta in the US. I order the Japanese version from Amazon. If you're in the UK (and 'gotten' makes me think you're not, lol), I used to get Indeed's 'hydraluron' serum from Boots, but I had some issues with it.
Step three: ideally, spend some time somewhere steamy, like the bathroom after a shower. If you don't have time to take a shower before bed or prefer a morning shower, you can gently spritz your face with water from a little spritz bottle. You can find a bottle like that at most drug stores for pretty cheap.
I apply my hyaluronic acid in the shower, after I've turned off the water.
Remember, though, that steaming your face directly with a steamer or bowl of hot water can damage your skin.
Step four: follow the humectant with an occlusive. An occlusive is hydrophobic, which means it repels water. In other words, it's the opposite of a humectant. Unless you live somewhere very humid, you want to prevent the humectant from drawing water out of your face, since the whole point is adding water to your skin.
Petroleum jelly is an effective occlusive and is non-comedogenic, which means it won't clog your pores. (Vaseline cites a small study supporting that claim, and Paula's Choice makes the same claim about mineral oil, which is a petroleum product.)
Note: Always be sure to wash your hands thoroughly before touching your face.
In addition to all that, here are some tips I've picked up from /r/SkincareAddiction to reduce acne. Keep in mind that I don't actually have acne (whereas I do have dehydrated skin), so I have no experience with any of these tips, and even if I did have experience, anecdotes are not evidence and YMMV.
One last note: if you're cleaning your face with a cloth, be sure to use a clean one every time and be super gentle with it. Physical exfoliation is generally contraindicated for active acne—you wouldn't scrub an infected cut, especially if you had a bunch of not infected cuts around it.
There's always hope. <3
Yep that's the correct one, Target should have travel sizes if you don't want commit but most stores will accept returns if you dislike it.
Price, yea that's always a detractor. Based off the ingredients and the variety of sizes of hyaluronate the Hada-Labo Gokujyun Hyaluronic Acid Lotion Moist would be a lower priced option. Amazon usually carries it but it seems right now only 3rd party sellers are selling. If you choose to buy from 3rd party sellers on Amazon, make sure to check their rating. I did find the refill of the Hada lotion and is sold by Amazon, but it comes in a bag so you'd need a bottle to hold it. The lotion is popular and has many posts. I like it. Non-obtrusive, it has no smell, hydrates, cheap, a little goes a long way so find your skin's preference, and just does its job in hydrating. If you want to sort of dupe the LING you can also purchase squalane, another good moisturizing ingredient. Since the squalane is pretty high in the LING ingredient list it's likely key in the LING's product results. I'm currently trying out squalane, and bought one from Amazon by Timeless. Comes sealed with plastic tear off around the neck and the product lists its manufacturing date. If you buy the two together, I'd recommend putting a couple drops of Hada in the palm with a drop or 2 of squalane and rubbing palms to mix and pressing/patting the mixture into the skin.
For more hydrating toners and this 2017 megathread of hydrating toners has many rec's and is well formated to get the gist of each. For popular rec's the Hada is well review as well as Kikumasamune Sake Skin Lotion High Moisture. I like both. The Kiku comes in a large bottle but the bottle is a poor delivery of product. The Kiku should be bought with a spray/mister bottle, bonus putting it into a spray bottle you can use it for your body. It does have a smell, some like it some don't, but I find it dissipated quickly.
I am obsess with drinking enough water and I love drinking tea, so I generally wash my hands at least once an hour due to my restroom habits. Lol not an odd question!
These are the two I would recommend. They're large bottles, so if you're just using them on your hands, they'll last a long time.
You may even want to give Heritage Store Roseware & Glycerin a try if you can find it in a local store (for return purposes, although Amazon prices are better). It's not as hydrating as the other two, but the glycerin does act as a mini barrier of sorts. Warning: the spray on it is annoying as it projects the product everywhere.
Is this the right product? It's been in my cart for ages.
Hi! I think you might find treating the skin first as the best way to have a nice base- but I also have makeup tips too like you requested :)
Makeup:
I might be crazy. I apply my foundation before my skincare soaks in all the way. I wait a little for it to absorb, then dab on my tinted moisturizer with my fingers and blend with a damp sponge (miss A paw paw sponge - these are SO good and cheap). I focus on dabbing straight down as opposed to swiping - it really helps prevent streaks or patching.
I also like using a hydrating facial spray after I apply my foundation. Whatever brand you like should be fine! I’ve used plenty, but right now I like dr jart)
I haven’t used a lot of primers because my skincare usually does enough, but I would look for something that is specifically formulated for dry skin.
I’m gonna try to apply my rare beauty tint after using my facial oil to see if it helps! I’ll let you know!
I think also that if your foundation and primer are made with different bases (oil? Silicone? Water?) you might have issues with the products separating on your face and settling into patches or texture.
My skincare (if you’re interested)
I also have dry skin, but it’s better lately. When my skin was really dry, I would use a moisturizing toner (Hada Labo or round lab mugwort) then apply my moisturizer. I also like facial oils (fourth ray). I am FAR from a skincare expert, but you may want to address your moisture barrier… and also do some very gentle exfoliation to remove the loose dead skin cells and follow with a lot of hydration and moisture after. Do you ever use an oil cleanser? I like kose softymo speedy. It’s amazing at removing makeup- you apply it directly to your dry skin and rub gently with your fingers. It also rinses easily. I feel like it’s helped with some of my texture
Glad I could help somewhat :)
This is the hydrating toner I personally use:
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
It’s called “Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion”. Japanese people call toners as lotions so the name is confusing. But I live in Japan and it’s only about $5 here whereas in US Amazon it’s nearly triple the price so I don’t really recommend buying it in the US because it seems that CeraVe has their own version!
Dab 5-7sh drops into your palm, rub your hands together and apply and pat onto your face. Pat into it’s sticky ish and wait until it absorbs into your skin to apply your face lotion.
As for working out, I would use a cleanser cause if sweat mixed with SPF makes me feel bleh. Your remaining SPF lotion may still need embedded into the skin and I wouldn’t want to apply toner after that.
If you didn’t apply your lotion with SPF before working out, rinsing thoroughly is OK I think.
CeraVe’s cleanser doesn’t seem to be harsh from what I remember when I lived in the states, but, I think what my esthetician and dermatologist would do is use a cleansing oil instead. You’d keep your skin moisture but also remove everything else.
Best answer would probably be:
SPF (then work out) -> cleansing oil -> toner -> moisturizer-> SPF
Didn’t apply SPF prior -> water rinse -> toner -> moisturizer -> SPF
Also, I’d avoid taking too hot showers and letting the water hit your face for too long. It’d dehydrate your skin faster and acne marks’ redness lingers much longer.
Sorry for the delayed reply. Do you mean the Hada Labo lotion? The naming is confusing, and it doesn’t help that there’s a version for the American market (cherry blossom packaging) which is totally different 🙃
This is the one I use. “Lotion Moist” are the key/distinguishing terms.
I have the large pump bottle and just buy refill bags, which is the cherry on top — I wish every company used that packaging model!
Here you go:
These are just links for you to see what the products look like, don't ever get them if they're above $20.
I used to be super into K-beauty products so I know a thing or two. I don't have dry skin but these are some decent recommendations for general use:
Make sure your first step, your face wash, isn't drying out your skin. Stuff that "foams" tends to be more drying so I would recommend something like this. It doesn't make a soapy lather so it might not be as satisfying to feel but it works pretty well imo.
A toner will prep skin for absorbing more of the moisture, like this. Then you could use a good basic moisturizer like this one.
If you need extra moisturization, a "sleeping pack" can be used overnight after you put on your moisturizer. This is a thicker type of cream that basically seals the moisture in. Some people just use Vaseline for this step, and I've used it to great effect, though it might exacerbate acne for some people.
For combating acne specifically, I've found chemical exfoliation helps. This product is my go-to. /r/asianbeauty is a great resource to learn more!
If you already have dry skin, check ingredient lists for alcohol. Alcohol is very drying so most people should avoid it anyway.
the hada labo gokujyn lotion is a popular one and can be found on Amazon for about $10
Well the hyaluronic acid toner that I like is Hada Labo Hyaluronic Lotion Moist. It goes a really long way. The HA serum from The Ordinary is also an option, but the texture is a bit stickier and it's only 30ml.
As for cleansers, generally avoid products with Sodium Laureth/Lauryl Sulfate, Alcohol Denat or fragrance in them. You can also check some reviews before buying a new product and see what other people have to say. The CeraVe cleanser recommended in the other reply should be a good option. And to get the sunscreen and/or makeup off, you may like using an oil first. Just massage a bit of oil on your face to dissolve the products and then wash it off with the cleanser. You can just use some generic (unfragranced) mineral oil for that. It helps my skin not feel stripped after i wash it, and it takes everything off.
If you want to use an oil for moisturizing, make sure it's a cold pressed and unrefined vegetable oil. You can find tons of options on amazon or in Wholefoods-type grocey stores. Just mix a few drops in your moisturizer and that should help plump up your skin and give it a glow. The Ordinary sells 4 oils. I use their rosehip oil and really like it. If your skin is on the dry side and not acne-prone, you may like their marula or argan oil. Depends very much on your skin type. Here's a thread about people's favorite oils: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/6fu4a4/product_question_what_are_your_favorite_3_oils/
Hope this helped.
Be warned. I'm not as consistent as most and I'm cheap as hell so results may vary. I get a Derma plane facial a few times a year, exfoliate monthly and moisturize like it's a matter of life and death.
Monthly: some bullshit peel off mask or Aztec secret clay mask followed by a deep moisturizing mask
Weekly: I alternate vitamin C serum and Niacinamide solution. I generally wear the vitamin C during the day as I've heard it works with the sunscreen to reduce redness and discoloration. this brand
Daily : rinse with tepid water in the AM. Follow with Hadalabo Toner (massaged into face to reduce the puffiness that comes with my chronic illness) Snail Repair Cream and Aveeno Moisturizing sunblock if I plan to wear makeup. If no makeup, just snail repair cream and toner.
PM wash with speedy cleansing oil followed by African Black Soap. Moisturize with Hadalabo milky lotion, add snail repair cream once the milky lotion has dried.
Products:
asian beauty can sometimes be a gamble! there are some amazing brands out there if you know where to look, though
for toners - i highly recommend the hada labo gokujun hyaluronic acid lotion moist (on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O)
i have also tried the "premium" version of this and loved it just as much, although it does have a heavier texture so it might not suit what you're looking for. it comes in a gold package (on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Gokujyun-Premium-Hyaluronic-5-7floz/dp/B06X3R1LL3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3U5G6URNQ41Y&dchild=1&keywords=hada+labo+premium&qid=1592411240&s=beauty&sprefix=hada+labo+pre%2Cbeauty%2C148&sr=1-1)
i would also check out products by cosrx, which is by far my favorite asian beauty brand. if you're not opposed, their snail mucin 96 essence is AWESOME and a total lifesaver (from ulta: https://www.ulta.com/advanced-snail-96-mucin-power-essence?productId=xlsImpprod15641052)
i hope that helps!!
I’d use the wash at night and just rinse with water in the morning then use the toner and moisturizer. I personally find Asian toners to be really good for hydration, two good ones are the hada labo gokujyun lotion and the klairs supple preparation toner (I’d go with the klairs one tho bc some people have issues w the hada labo one giving them CCs)
Order AM - rinse - toner - moisturizer
PM - facewash - benzoyl peroxide - toner - moisturizer
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/
I use just The Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion then sunscreen. No moisturizer.
Sorry for the late reply. Can i post links? This is the ordinary website for the niacinamide (r/https://theordinary.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml?redir=1 ). For the Hado lado essense with prime (https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1533427273&sr=1-1&keywords=Hada+labo ). The hado lado milky lotion is out so it ships from japan. (https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Goku-jun-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B00BS3Q0XE/ref=sr_1_sc_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1533427375&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=hado%2Blado%2Bmilky&th=1). The ordinary does sell its azelaic acid lotion. Many people like it, but I don't because it always piles up. It will take quite a bit depending on how deep the pie is. Mine faded around 50% in a month. This one is 20% azealic acid which is pretty strong (https://www.amazon.com/Ecological-Formulas-Melazepam-Cream/dp/B018IVHWRQ/ref=sr_1_8_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1533427630&sr=1-8&keywords=azelaic+acid&dpID=31qfjQt9amL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch) I don't want you to stress on using too many actives. Double check the ingredients using Cosdna to make sure if any of the ingredient breaks you out. Any moisturizer works fine. My pie last long at first because I had a compromised skin barrier. I didn't notice till I took care of it and the red mark started faded quickly. All those acne medication ( benzoyl peroxide, sulfur, etc) does ruined the skin too when used for a long period and niacinamide helps restore it back.
What is the difference between these two Hada Labo products? I ordered the second one because it was prime eligible for a good price, but now im not sure it's what I intended to buy because the first product is the one linked by the blog i was reading...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074GX619Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got the hada labo gokujyun high moist lotion in the new packaging but the formula looks very clear and less viscous compared to the original packaging. I thought the new packaging didn't include a reformulation so I am confused why the lotion is so different. The links are the products in question. original new
I got the hada labo gokujyun high moist lotion in the new packaging but the formula looks very clear and less viscous compared to the original packaging. I thought the new packaging didn't include a reformulation so I am confused why the lotion is so different. The links are the products in question. original new
Hi there! Yes, I do order these products off of Amazon.ca (you can always check /r/skincareexchange if Amazon isn't your cup of tea)
Here are the links for both sellers I have purchased from multiple times:
Amazon.ca Biore UV seller I purchase 5 or 6 at a time. It usually takes a month to arrive.
It's worth noting that both products are the highest prices I have ever seen right now... it might be worth checking out camelcamelcamel to see if they might reduce soon. You might be able to get a better price elsewhere.
Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist (white) vs Hada Labo Gokujun Premium Hyaluronic Solution (gold)
What is the difference between these products? Is one generally accepted as being less irritating?
It's on my list (thank you simpleskincarescience), but I want to know which would be more effective - especially for FA, sensitive skin.
I'm almost done with my course, and I've had a really smooth journey. here's what I think helped before I started:
I started using this hyaluronic acid lotion about two weeks before my course started and I think it made a pretty big difference, my skin was more moisturized than normal when I went into my course and never got painfully dry
I also drank a gallon of water a day for two weeks before my course, I only stopped because the semester started and I couldn't stand having to pee that much at school lol. of course I can't say how much the water really helped, but it definitely didn't hurt.
last recommendation is bag balm which I have used for the past year or two (well before my course started) and I've had absolutely minimal problems with my lips thanks to it. it smells weird but I swear by it. the only times my lips have started to tear in the corners are the few times I forgot to use it overnight
Great suggestions, the Hada Labo product, is it this one? https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
Hydrating toners were new to me this year so I've only tried a few. Ones that I haven't had an issue so far are these two:
I've even used Heritage Store Roseware & Glycerin occasionally, but I find that it's not hydrating enough.
Currently, I'm trying out Muji's Sensitive Skin line so their High Moisturizing Light Toning Water 1.7oz/50ml is what I've been using lately. I can't vouch how well this toning water is on the face as I've been mainly using it on my hands.
Sorry to take so long to get back to you! If you have dry skin that's overproducing oil, that's a classic sign of dehydration, so you need to add water back into your skin. If you're also experiencing acne, you'll see better results with treating it with a chemical exfoliant. I'd recommend checking out the Hada Labo lotion, which will add moisture back into your skin, and for the acne, a gentle BHA like The Ordinary's salicylic acid should help clear things up.
If your skin is still feeling dry or tight while overproducing oil, then I'd look into a better cleanser - CeraVe makes drugstore ones that are much gentler on the skin, as well as a heavier moisturizer.
Glad you like the Hydroboost :) The Hada Labo is the Hada Labo Gokujyun Super Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Lotion. It says Lotion but a lot of Asian lotions have a toner like consistency.
Oooh get these - they're both great!
Here's the Hyaluronic: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O
And here's the AHA!: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D2M4IFA
Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist I got this one off amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Your skin may be dehydrated, maybe you could use a hydrating toner?
So when you have dry skin, you tend to be lacking oil, and a nice moisturizer can help add oil and lock it in. You seem to be describing dehydrated skin, which is a lack of water. Hydrating toners can be the one of the first steps after you cleanse and can hydrate the skin!
I posted in another comment with some recommendations, just going to copy them here:
Hada Labo gokujyun Hyaluronic Lotion is a staple in my routine, it's no-nonsense, no frills, just pure moisture sinking into the skin and it's divine!
Klairs Supple Preparation Facial Toner is also lovely and light, very hydrating and smells wonderful!
This last one isn't on amazon canada, but you may be able to find it on the US site. It's the Pyunkang Yul essence toner it's another no-nonsense light toner, small ingredient list and just wonderfully hydrating.
For moisturizers to lock in that goodness, there are just SO many options, gel type moisturizers tend to be lighter and more watery-based, so that may work for you (I don't know any, I'm a dry skin type!). I personally adore the Belif moisturizing bomb, they have an Aqua bomb which is a lighter version and I've heard great things about it!
I Think you posted a new comment instead of replying to whoever wrote to you, but I personally LOVE hydrating toners and would be happy to recommend a few! The links are for Amazon Canada but you can find them on the US site too!
Hada Labo gokujyun Hyaluronic Lotion is a staple in my routine, it's no-nonsense, no frills, just pure moisture sinking into the skin and it's divine!
Klairs Supple Preparation Facial Toner is also lovely and light, very hydrating and smells wonderful!
This last one isn't on amazon canada, but you may be able to find it on the US site. It's the Pyunkang Yul essence toner it's another no-nonsense light toner, small ingredient list and just wonderfully hydrating.
This one: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_TpK5zbYDNFC3S
When I was younger, getting temporary relief from acne before breaking out even worse was a sign my skin was drying out. You need to incorporate some sort of lightweight moisturizer in your routine. Try this https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O this https://www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Advanced-Snail-Mucin-Essence/dp/B00PBX3L7K or this https://www.amazon.com/Laneige-2015-Renewal-Water-Sleeping/dp/B004KPYWM8
For bacne, make sure you are completely rinsing all soap/shampoo/conditioner residue from your back in the shower. I use this in the shower and find it clears up mine, probably because it balances the pH in my skin to be unfavorable to acne https://m.sephora.com/product/natural-foaming-face-wash-P404436?affid=25ZRSXYPVYg-lhw2N5oQuTXAs3uDcn1OVw&ranSiteID=25ZRSXYPVYg-lhw2N5oQuTXAs3uDcn1OVw&c3nid=25ZRSXYPVYg&browserdefault=true&c3ch=Linkshare&ranEAID=25ZRSXYPVYg&...
> Gokujyun moist
This is the one you're talking about right? Or this one?
The only thing I am unsure if I should get this is because my moisturizer have HA in it as well. What is your opinion for a good occlusive? I know the Joseon Beauty Cream is loved very much, but that is a bit too sticky for my liking, though I do love the moisturizing level it gives me.
Looked through the megathreads before I posted this question... wish I could try most of those listed, but most of them are out of my price range. D:
A lot of people say that Cosrx cleanser is drying. Does your skin feel tight after cleansing or it feels OK?
A hydrating toner such as this one could help: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2X3IFSBDOZ3RW&colid=1FRNULR8E6QK6
As for redness, check out this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianBeauty/comments/4v2uii/best_products_for_common_skin_concerns_series/?st=j1xupar3&sh=91600517
https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O
It's been a week since I started using it...and today I do have some CCs. I get them frequently enough that it's so hard to tell if it's a product breaking me out. T.T
> I'm just confused as to why it's mostly happening on one side of my face
It could be a number of reasons. Do you sleep on that side? Or it could be an area that you USED to use actives on. I've noticed that my chin seems to show dehydration first, but I think that's cause I always broke out on my chin and used to apply benzoyl peroxide like it was my job haha.
I'd check out this post: https://np.reddit.com/r/AsianBeauty/comments/68lq2o/review_my_first_haul_for_dehydrated_sensitive/?st=j29ap4v7&sh=107750a6
(which is new, so you can still comment! lol)
https://np.reddit.com/r/AsianBeauty/comments/4gltx6/newbies_why_your_first_haul_should_only_have_four/?st=j23lo48x&sh=ae796877
I'd pay special attention to when users talk about repairing their moisture barrier. For me, the biggest difference has been adding in a low pH cleanser to my routine and following up with a hydrating toner. I use the Hada Labo Hylauronic Acid toner and apply 3 light layers each night. This toner is great because it helps with lack of water (dehydration) instead of lack of oil (dry).
Hi. Can anyone tell me the difference between these Hada Labos please? I was under the impression there was two variants, the regular one with the red label and the light version with the green label. But now I am confused!
I purchased Rohto Hadarabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Smooth from Amazon. Which I have only just realised is actually HADARABO not HADA LABO. Could be a typo, or have I bought a knock off by mistake? Even though the title is HARARABO they show the brand as HADA LABO, so not sure...
I have gone on YesStyle to repurchase but they have two options available.
Hada Labo Super Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (Rich)
Hada Labo Super Hyaluronic Acid Lotion (Moist)
The part that confuses me is that the SMOOTH I purchased from Amazon and the YesStyle's RICH both have two blue boxes and one yellow at the top. The YesStyle's MOIST has one blue box and two yellows at the top. Are any or all of these the same item. Are they just different packaging or different items?!
It does sound like her skin is dehydrated. Does she have any other skin issues which could cause the dehydration? For me, it was rosacea. Once I got my rosacea under control, i was eventually able to deal with the dehydration.
What sucks is that everyone's skin is different. What irritates your gf's skin will be different from what irritates my skin. I would recommend that she tries using an oil cleanser or a cream cleanser (this one she massages it into her skin and then gently removes it with a cotton round), and finds a good moisturizer before focussing on the acne. If something causes her acne to get worse, though, she should quickly stop using it. She will have to figure out what ingredients don't work for her and move on from there.
I have a list of stuff that worked for me when my skin was at it's worse. The first two were my savior, the only products that moisturized my skin and didn't burn! They're like first step moisturizers that you pat in your skin and then apply a heavier moisturizer on top. The body shop products, I just feel that I'm lucky they worked for me because the ingredient list isn't good for me (it includes some things that usually irritate my skin) but the formula worked for my skin. They might be worth a shot. I'd recommend trying the masks first.
I also use a prescription sulfur and sulfacetamide face wash that really made a difference in my skin due to my rosacea. My skin would not have got better if it wasn't for this face wash, so if she does have an underlying skin issue, she will likely have to get a doctor to help.
Also, aquaphor/vaseline could be something useful to try on a day when she's not going out. It's difficult to wash off without regular face wash, but it could help with keeping her skin moisturized.
Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist
Hada Labo Gokujun Cleansing Oil
The Body Shop Aloe Cream Cleanser
Argan oil
Macadamia nut oil
I was thinking of getting this hydrating toner, Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion Moist. I'm reading a lot of good stuff on it.
It has glycerine, which is moisturizing and witch hazel, which is astringent.
I would give these a look:
They're very popular among Asian beauty lovers.
have you tried a primer? primer's or really anything skincare related can be very YMMV but it may help to add it as a prep before you apply your foundation. do you have a sephora nearby where you could get samples of a couple and see how it feels and looks on your skin? a good one imo is the YSL Touche Eclat blur one but any silicone primer i think would have the same effect. Also, what foundation do you use? you may need a more moisturizing one maybe
ETA--you can add moisture to your skin by using a hyaluronic acid serum or product before your moisturizer too. For example the Hada Labo lotion [(http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O] or Indeed Labs Hydraluron serum [(http://ca.indeedlabs.com/products/hydraluron-serum]. Skin on tret is so dehydrated that sometimes you just need to add more layers of moisture for it to not look so dehydrated
This? Kind of hard to recommend anything without more context.
I know everyone else already said this, but you look beautiful. Not just saying that.
Looks like your routine is pretty good so far. I would add more moisturizers though. I have combination skin which can get very oily in my T-zone, so a few years ago I didn't think I needed much moisture at all. Now I have added tons of different moisturizing steps and I love the results. I'm 28, so about the same age as you, and I've never been happier with my skin. I really do believe it makes you skin bounce back more easily and not hold wrinkles.
You generally want to layer lighter/liquid products, then lotion, then heavier creams. Some of my favorite products: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion (syrup-like consistency, you add just a few drops. I mix it with a tiny bit of water or my PC toner. Lots of hyaluronic acid to plump the skin), PC skin recovery toner (meant for dry skin, but very light and refreshing. I use my hands to apply and the bottle lasts a long time, almost a year), Laneige Multiberry Yogurt Repairing Mask (I use this when my skin is feeling extra dry. Also, you can get a sample of this for $5 at Target), Aquaphor (use at night to seal all that moisture in). Cerave cream is pretty nice. I really do enjoy most of the cerave products, like the PM lotion, the regular lotion (more watery than the cream), and the Skin Renewing night cream (pricier than the others but really makes my skin look amazing). I would recommend trying some of these steps both morning and night.
As already mentioned, Botox might also be a good option for you. If you don't like the results, it does fade after a few months.
> hada labo's hyaluronic acid toner
is this the one you're talking about? https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1474003931&sr=1-1&keywords=hada+labo+toner
Hi! I'm fairly certain I saw this question before but unsure what keywords I should search with haha. Just wondering if there's a difference between these two hada labo lotions here and here...as far as I can tell the packaging looks exactly the same.
Someone asked the same question in the Amazon Q&A sections, but the answers tend to be really...incorrect. So wanted to double check with y'all :D
Thanks!
I don't blame you! I've tried a world of moisturizers, my hand to god, over 3/4 of them broke me out! I've had good luck with Hada labo. They have a milky version that's a lot more moisturizing. If I'm really dry, I'll use the clear one like a toner and the milky one like a moisturizer. I also oil cleanse with DHC Deep Cleansing Oil after using my eye makeup remover and a gentle rub with jojoba oil. I don't know if either of those would break you out since some people do have trouble with oils.
I also use Aquaphor all over at night! I think the addition of sprio (started on Saturday at 100mg) has caused my skin to start drying out even further. I'll wake up with soft skin that's looking a little better every morning, but it feels tight throughout the day like it is dehydrated. To the touch it feels supple and looks more smooth/plump. Around my nose and mouth I have started to peel a little, but I think that's because my tretinoin dosage was increased last week to 0.075%.
How's your water intake? I'm at 3.5 liters a day and I'm beginning to think that's not enough. I'm also fairly active in the gym.
If you have Amazon Prime, you should be able to get this lotion in 2 days.
>Wondering if I am using too much BP product, not the right lotions, or if my picking is causing the red bumps mainly my mid cheek area by my nose.
Coming from someone who picks: stop picking. Medication can only do so much, but your skin is under physical attack and that's not what Epiduo is designed to fix. If your skin is feeling dry halfway through your day, you need hydration. I don't think it'd be good to start using an oil control product if your skin is dry. You could also try a hydrating toner or gel, like Hada Labo gokujyun lotion or Dr. Lin's Daily Hydrating Gel. Are you using both Cerave in the tub and the PM lotion? Also, I hope you just forgot to list sunscreen in your routine. If not, get yoself some sunscreen!
I asked my derm about acne treatments. He basically told me that if someone wants medication, he'll prescribe it. He'd give me the tools but it was up to me to use them properly and to take good care of my skin. So yeah, he might just be throwing ideas at you without a good knowledge of what your routine is. Overall it looks like your skin is dehydrated from the medications and insufficient moisturizers.
The below Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion is what I mean. I know it says lotion but it is a toner :)
I would like to try to Hada Labo hydrating toner that everyone raves about, is it this one ?
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/ref=pd_luc_rh_sim_01_02_t_img_lh?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Since your acne is fairly mild, it's possible that your dermatologist will recommend against taking Accutane or even refuse to prescribe it. Accutane is an amazing drug, but it has some serious potential side effects as well as several very annoying milder ones. My understanding is that the efficacious dosage range for isotretinoin is fairly small, and patients on the lowest dose are likely to have to move up. I could absolutely be wrong about that, though, so definitely discuss trying a low dose with your derm.
Regarding dehydrated skin, I'll paste in some information from a comment I made in another thread:
The typically recommended treatment for dehydrated skin is humectant+water followed by an occlusive. I'll break that down:
Step one: wash your face but don't dry it
Step two: apply a humectant to your wet face.
Step three: ideally, spend some time somewhere steamy, like the bathroom after a shower. If you don't have time to take a shower before bed or prefer a morning shower, you can gently spritz your face with water from a little spritz bottle. You can find a bottle like that at most drug stores for pretty cheap.
Step four: follow the humectant with an occlusive. An occlusive is hydrophobic, which means it repels water. In other words, it's the opposite of a humectant. Unless you live somewhere very humid, you want to prevent the humectant from drawing water out of your face, since the whole point is adding water to your skin.
I have another question! I've been looking at the Hada Lobo Hyaluronic Lotion Mist because of all the recommendations from ABers and I'd love to try it out. I'm currently using the Cosrx AHA/BHA Clarifying Toner after cleaning my face to prepare for either Cosrx AHA Whitehead Liquid or BHA Blackhead Power Liquid (one in the morning, one at night).
My question is whether I should use the Hada Lobo Mist right after cleansing my face, then the clarifying toner; the toner then the Mist; or if it will be enough on it's own (so nix the clarifying toner).
Hyaluronic Acid has to be added to a water phase, which your body butter doesn't have. LotionCrafters carries it with some instructions for usage. Anyway, you'd pretty much have to use a completely different recipe for a body butter that uses Hyaluronic acid. SwiftyCraftyMonkey is who you want to follow if you want to make such a lotion at home.
If you want to make any skincare products that contain water at home, please use a good preservative system and emulsifier. Non-preserved products can become harmful to the skin long before they have visible mold, and it's painful (I've unfortunately had this problem before. I now check that the products I buy contain preservatives). Your current body butter formula doesn't have any water, so it's not a concern, but one with hyaluronic acid would have that concern.
Another option is to layer something like Hada Labo Hyaluronic Lotion under your body butter.
Immediately after shower /semi dry / whole bathroom is a wet sauna: Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist 5.7floz/170ml (to suck in all that moisture, also seems to do amazing things when it's super humid out, but this alone will destroy you if you spend a lot of time in AC since that sucks moisture out of the air).
Then Lubriderm Men's 3in1 Lotion, Body, Face and Postshave Lotion, Fragrance Free to seal, in between any extra face stuff/whatever gets rubbed in to arms/legs whatever.
And Tony Moly Pure Snail Moisture Gel is on its way to either layer in or replace.
Thank you! Im gonna place my order now :)
edit: Hey do you happen to know if these are the same products? if not, which one should I be ordering?
I bought mine from Amazon , but you might be able to find a better deal on an AB site. I was just already ordering stuff from Amazon. :)
This is the exact one I use.
I use this guy: Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion Moist
Make sure to get the "moist" version, as the "light" version (green labeling) isn't moisturizing enough to be a standalone even when I'm oily.
My fav is Hada Labo's Gokujyun Hyaluronic Acid Lotion Moist -- no filler ingredients (see ratzilla cosme), super lightweight. It's technically a moisturizing toner, meant to preface a moisturizer (milk or cream), but when I'm on the oily side of combo the Moist version is enough for me. There's also a Light version which is not moisturizing enough for me without layering.
Edited to note the moist vs light versions.
This review of the snail gel is really helpful, but the gel didn't work for her skin. She says it isn't moisturizing enough which I disagree with but there's lots of facts and pictures!
I'm not super familiar with japanese moisturizers but Hadalabo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion is Japanese and some people use it as a moisturizer, but it's liquid consistency like a toner. For me, it's not moisturzing enough so I layer the snail gel and a snail cream on top (I have dryer skin though). You can try /r/asianbeauty for more recommendations! I know I've seen Japanese product specific threads before
I meant to attach this as well-- is this the one popular on this sub, without alcohol? Or are you unsure?