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A nutribullet probably uses blades like a spice grinder or blenders. You’ll get a huge difference in the consistency of the grind using a burr grinder. You can pretty easily get a manual burr grinder from amazon and even the cheap ones will be a lot better than a blade one. The Hario Skerton is on the less expensive side and will definitely be good enough for a french press starting out. Not sure what the price is like in Ireland though.
I use a Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill. It’s a fair bit of work and sometimes takes a few grinds, but I can get it to a really fine powder. The grinder also totally disassembles so it’s easy to clean if I need it for any non-spicy uses.
I usually use a French Press but about a week ago one of my buddies got an Aeropress and I love the coffee that it makes. I still like to use the FP for to get a more full body taste but the Aeropress does a good job of keeping the dust out of the coffee and makes a great middle point between the FP and the Chemex. I just bought one today on Amazon so I would definitely encourage you to buy one and try it for yourself. It makes a great cup of coffee and it's cheaper than a Chemex.
The only question is with the grinder. That grinder is 'for' an Aeropress namely because of the small quantity of beans in can grind. You can certainly use it to grind for anything but if you're going to grind ~56g of beans for 1 Liter for a French Press then I would recommend this one because it can hold more beans. The difference in the grinder capacity is ~20g for the mini and 100g for the link below.
Yeah, totally man. At work I use this Hario Skerton hand grinder . While not as good as the Lido, it's definitely better than a blade grinder. It takes about a minute of cranking to grind for a few cups but it's worth it.
Also, I forgot to mention, a scale is very helpful to measure water and bean weight.
As other people have mentioned - of course - freshly roasted beans are the most important part. Look for a local roaster, I've no doubt there are some in your area.
Oh Brazil? Since Colombia is next door you might have access to some quality beans much cheaper than the USA.
Try out a hand grinder like this if you cant find a Baratza [link]
The grinder will make more of a difference. Electric burr grinders start at $100+, but a ceramic burr hand grinder will be right in your price range. If you don't think she'll mind grinding her beans by hand, I'd go with that.
She can either use it each time, or just use it to dial in the grind size for the beans and then go to a local shop to grind the rest to the size she prefers. It only takes me 2-3 minutes of grinding for my amount - just enough time to get some water boiling. I kinda like the ritual too.
I've personally used a cheap one from amazon to great effect, but people here tend to recommend the Hario Skerton (~$40) I believe: [link]
A gooseneck kettle will only cost $20-30 for a decent one. I'd recommend getting a digital scale next though.
yea I use this one
the jist is that freshly ground beans taste better than preground beans
burr grinders produce a more consistent grind than blenders that use blades
I don't hate cheap electric grinders ~as much~ as a lot of the users on this sub. I think you can get something that will make adequately coarse grinds for a french press for around $25-$30. However, the Hario Skerton is fairly popular on this sub as a cheap grinder.
If you truly want to put money into a grinder, I would start with a Baratza Encore. When you start going cheaper than the Baratza (ie a Capresso 560) you start getting inconsistent grinds. At that point I'd rather just save my money and keep using the hand grinder or cheap blade grinder.
I use one of these: [link] as it's not electric (marginally lower electrical bill) and it doesn't consume any/much counter space. Also I only ever grind enough coffee for what I'm using at that moment.
This is the one I have, although it seems to be a bit more expensive than I thought. Setting the grind is a little inconvenient on it though.
I've never used either the Javapresse or any other manual grinder, but the Hario Skerton is usually brought up when people ask about manual grinders, and it's a little closer in price to the Javapresse (~$35). Just another one to think about.
You won't be able to get a good electric grinder for that price -- they start at closer to £100+. The electric grinders in your price range are blade grinders, and I'd rather use preground than a blade grinder. Blade grinders give an incredibly inconsistent grind, which will lead to coffee that's really poorly extracted (it'll probably be far too sour, bitter, or both).
Fresh grinding should definitely give you a better flavor. For that price you should get a hand-operated burr grinder, e.g. [link]
Whoops, just assumed you were American haha. Are you referring to the Skerton? If so, the Skerton has a slight edge on the Mini Mill, but they're roughly comparable. In that case it may very well be the grinder that's holding you back. If you can, I'd spring for a Baratza Virtuoso (electric) or LIDO 3/E/E-T (manual). The Virtuoso is a significant upgrade from the Hario and also noticeably better than the cheaper Baratza Encore. It has the same burrs as the more expensive Preciso. The LIDO is better than all of these, but can take quite a bit of force to turn compared to your current grinder, so do your research and watch some videos before you make a commitment to 20-second arm workouts every morning...
I have that one.
>the hissing part adds a lot of bitterness so that's why you do not want it in your cup
instantly better coffee! Thank you!
Thanks for the reply! I edited my above post just after your reply, with what you said being the case, would you still recommend me going for this grinder if I go that route? Some reviews stated that it was hard getting a coarser grind with this because of how it was made, but I saw a "hack" in a review where they replace the handle with a 6m connector nut and used a drill on a low setting to grind the beans, which sounds hilarious to me. My above post was edited to include a coffee dripper and server, as well.
I only plan on brewing one or two cups at a time, so I'm unsure of whether I'd want a carafe. Would you recommend one for someone who has no idea what they're doing? I've forgotten that I'd end up needing a scale as well if I go for a maker that requires practice, so that'd have to be added to the cost.
Also, since you've stated that a gooseneck kettle isn't completely necessary, would you recommend that I go ahead and grab a coffee dripper like I've linked above, a french press and a grinder and then go from there?
Sorry for completely bombarding you with questions, by the way. I'm going to be getting a substantial amount of free coffee beans on Sunday and I'm curious on the best way to use them up. The only coffee maker in the house is a Keurig and I'd really like to step my game up and hopefully introduce the others to better coffee.
There isn't. Like with spices, coffee loses much of its flavour and aroma after it's ground. You can buy a decent hand grinder for £20.
Look for local roasters in your area. This ensures you get the freshest-roasted coffee possible. Look for Roasted On dates instead of Best before printed on the bag. The latter is meaningless and is just a way for the roaster to hide the beans' true freshness.
An Aeropress is a fantastic tool, regardless of what coffee you're using. Since it allows you to control pretty much all of the brewing variables (coffee & water quantity, grind size, water temp, extraction time & pressure) you can experiment with different recipes to see what works for you. Ultimately it's up to what kind of mouthfeel/cup you like best, although a Chemex with an Able Kone is currently my favourite non-espresso brew method.
Again, it's totally up to your preferences. I tend towards African coffees because I really like the berry/fruity, occasionally tea-like profiles of some Kenyans and Ethiopians, though this isn't a universal flavour profile. Central & South Americans tend towards more "traditional" flavours like roasted nuts, chocolate, and caramel. Roast level is also hugely preferential; some people prefer darker roasts so they can enjoy their coffee with milk; others like light roasts for the higher acidity.
Hmm, maybe the amazon page was misleading and the "new" and old are the same grinder from 2 sellers at different prices. Here's the "old":
Notice near the bottom there's a link that says "There is a newer model of this item". I clicked that and saw a similar product for 2x the price so figured it was an internal upgrade or something. I'm sure you can figure this out better than I can, so if you say they're the same I'll believe you.
What kind of coffee did you drink? I find HUGE differences in quality actually exist between brands. Starbucks.. it really is a last resort for me. They seem to almost burn/over-roast their beans. Peet's, that's the good stuff. Also, try brewing your own using a cheap $2 melita cone pour-over setup. Buy a decent hand operated burr grinder like this one for next-level bean juice.
Another option, depending on budget, is to get a hand-crank burr grinder.
You'll get much better and more consistent results that you would with a blade grinder, without the awful noise.
Here's a good one.
This is the right answer! I love the aeropress. I'll only add that you can get a hand-grinder that isn't that expensive, and it is a great complement to the Aeropress. You can really get close to that espresso taste and texture with a finer grind and an Aeropress. (But above comment is right, you could totally skip it and still have a really enjoyable imitation latte.)
This grinder (the slim you listed is probably great too), and anything from Counter Culture that says something along the flavor pallet of "Earthy". If he does not like Ethiopian he does not want something acidic most likely. Any brand like Crema, Barista Parlor, Counter Culture, thats from South America would probably interest him. I could get more complex but those will be easy sites to order from.
I've had this for over five years and I love it. I feel manly using it, as I must earn my daily espresso with the grind. It's a great daily ritual.
It claims it has correct burrs but I don't know if it's a good hand grinder at all.
I have seen the Hario hand grinder receiving a lot of good words.
If I were you (which I'm not :-) I'd ask about which hand grinder is bets suitable for you / your machine / where you live etc.
Burr grinders can be quite inexpensive, especially if you don't make coffee often, like in your case.
I've never used the grinders at the store, but IMHO I'd take freshly ground coffee over pre-ground coffee, regardless of how good the grinder is. The reason people are more critical of blade grinders (which I'm guessing is what you have?) is because they make more fines and the grinds aren't as consistent. In general that'll make for a more bitter cup, but I find the aeropress takes a lot of the bitterness out of the coffee anyways. If you find you aren't happy with the quality of the grind, you can try sifting out the fines or get a relatively inexpensive burr grinder like this one, which is what I use.
Ceramic Burl Coffee Grinder. Adjustable, the whole thing breaks down into parts and they can all run through the dishwasher to get out flavors and smells.
Don't forget that spices and herbs of even the same plant can have tremendously different flavors, so don't stick to just one. Hell, even fresh and dried herbs have different flavors and properties.
I used to use a mortar and pestle for my whole spices, but I don't use it too often so I just co-opt one of my burl coffee grinders. You can adjust the coarseness and a ceramic burl grinder can run through the dish washer a few times to get out any funky smells and flavors. It also works great on coffee.
Yup I would definitely buy whole beans and grind them yourself if you can. Personally, I have this Hario Skerton grinder - I don't necessarily recommend it because it doesn't give a very consistent grind (especially with course grinds) but it was cheap and still much better than a blade grinder. It is kind of a pain to grind with for cold brew since it takes a lot of work to grind enough for a large batch.
The Baratza Encore is probably the most recommended grinder I see. It's significantly more expensive than what I have, but it is electric (no manual labor) and the grind is more consistent. I would definitely recommend something electric if you are going to be making a large batch for the office.
Another alternative is to go to a grocery store or similar that sells whole beans. I usually get .5 or 1 lb of beans, have them grind it, then start the batch when I get home.
I remember the french press they had at starbucks when i worked there was great. The heavy metal one. I had bought a cheaper one at home, but the grinds would sneak past the plunger, even when properly ground. I might give that a go, although i have a feeling i'm not going to look forward to boiling water each morning for my coffee, and i'm not sure i wanna spend the $$ for an electric kettle also. (At least right now.)
I'm kicking around the idea of maybe just sticking with my at home setup, cause i'm so used to it, and going with an aeropress or french press and a hand grinder to keep at work. That way i'll still have an easy first cup of the day, but at work, (where my only other option is a keurig,) i can have even better coffee.
I used this grinder for years before caving and getting a way fancier grinder. It treated me well and while it took a while it made me appreciate my coffee more (or I may have just been justifying it more...). Either way I liked it and I still have it. As far as beans went, I went through some dark times in college and never had any money and actually bought like... five lb bags of coffee on Amazon. It wasn't great but it was still better than pre-ground stuff I'd buy at my grocery store so...
Now I buy freshly roasted beans from local roasters and never find cheaper than like 15 bucks per lb but it's way better.
I recently got this and have used it for a few days. Its a little slower than an electric grinder but is so much more quiet. It also gives a great consistent grind. Totally recommend. Pro tip: grind while watching TV and you'll never notice the extra grind time.
Stay far away from that blade grinder!!! It's good for spices, not coffee. If you want to keep it cheap, get a hand burr grinder. I've been happy with my Hario Skerton and there's a 3D-printed mod on the front of /r/coffee right now that will improve coarse grind consistency.
I'd honestly stay away from that cheap electric burr grinder too. The Hario is kind of a pain because it's by hand, but you're not buying anything quality for $35 in an electric.
would this Hario be a decent starting grinder in your opinion?
I know diy isn't always about saving money, but I think it would be incredibly difficult to diy a better hand grinder than this one for cheaper : [link]
A more interesting project would be to take the skerton and mod it to be driven by a motor. It isn't too much trouble to hand grind one cup's worth of beans, but if you are having company it can get tedious fast.
The biggest issue with grinders is consistency. I can not overstate the significance of consistency. In general, there is no other issue. Sure, reliability, dosing, speed, etc. can be considerations, but these are like deciding whether to buy a pickup truck or a sedan. Consistency is the difference between walking with a nail in your foot or driving a well maintained car. If you are on a budget, get the Hario/Kyocera Skeleton/Skerton. Be sure to find a lid from a plastic cup that fits the top and cut a hole in it so the beans don't fly out while you are grinding. Your next upgrade can be the purchase of a 6mm hex nut and an electric drill to replace the hand crank.
I use the Hario Skerton Ceramic Coffee Mill. You can adjust the grind according to your brewing method, and the base includes a screw-top lid to act as storage for your grinds. Only downside is that it is a manual grinder, but it doesn't bother me at all.
My dad uses this Oster grinder linked in the pic, and while the coffee is good, I can tell that the coffee from the Hario mill tastes better. Don't ask me why, because I have no idea why.
If you decide to get this and primarily use a French press, then you will also want to purchase the upgrade kit to get you consistency in your coarse grinds.
About $40+tax for the grinder, and $13+tax for the upgrade kit. I have seen the grinder elsewhere for no less than $50+tax (not including upgrade kit), so I recommend Amazon if you have Prime.
Edit: Since this is BIFL, I have been using the grinder almost daily for 3 years now and have no issues.
So what you are going to gather here is that you aren't going to be able to obtain "espresso" for that price range. However, if your girlfriend likes strong coffee in milk there are other options that would get you there without breaking the bank.
For the coffee:
Aeropress: This is a very versatile tool that can be used to make a number of coffee styles including strong shots of concentrate to be added to milk. Lots of room to grow and try other styles as well as time goes on.
Moka Pot: Can be either stovetop or electric depending on what works best. These are super popular in europe and have been around for ages so they are generally time-tested. They also make strong, pressurized percolated coffee that can be added to milk drinks.
For the grinder:
Hand burr grinders from Hario or Porlex are great and have a good following. You can get a knockoff on amazon for a lot less but it may fall apart after a while. Depends on your estimated use.
For the milk:
Frothing Pitcher: [link]
Frothing wand: [link]
Both of these together should get you where you need to go and make a nice gift bundle (maybe with some beans if you have a few bucks left over.
I hear that the nespresso are ok but I really have to take a stand against the waste and concept. Putting together a bundle gives you a ton of flexibility and is a more thoughtful gift in my opinion.
I have this one. Just make sure when you purchase, it says that the order will be fulfilled by Amazon. I didn't get a fake.
Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill Skerton Storage Capacity (100g) [link]
If you want to keep the cost down, I've been happy with the Hario Skerton ($30) with a mod ($15) to improve the grind consistenty.
It's not electric though, but I've found grinding 20g of beans is not bad.
Thanks! Just ordered the Aero press and this grinder: [link]
Also found some local coffee beans I will be trying out!
I have a Hario Skerton that I really like.
The Bodum is very good, but yes, seems to have gone up in price at some point.
They do this one as well though, it not tried it myself.
Alternatively, when I first bought a burr grinder I went for a manual one. Good exercise!😁
This is the one I got and is actually really good for individual cups to grind fresh.
I use this grinder.
Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill - "Skerton" [link]
Link again link
Thanks. This one?
Hario Medium Glass Hand Coffee Grinder with Ceramic Burrs [link]
Anything that has ceramic mill for sure.
I like hario brand, but I bought mine on amazon. [link]
Hario Mini Mill
can get you started.
> I have a bag of Kona Hawaiian coffee and a coffee grinder but it makes my kids cry when I use the grinder. What to do?
Get a hand grinder!
the Hario Skerton is $33 and is hand-operated. You might enjoy this more since most electric grinders, especially the cheap ones, are LOUD. also, there is some kind of upgrade kit for $11 that supposedly makes for a nicer (more consistent) grind. Maybe someone here who owns one can attest to that.
Buy my coffee from Thomsons in the South Side (Giffnock). And then use a Hariog grinder and Aeropress to make the coffee.
Just had a question about grinders. I currently use a French Press and am looking into buying a grinder. I am stuck between the Hario Skerton and this conical JavaPresse. I was wondering which would be better for my current setup. I don't really plan on brewing more than two cups at a time. If you have any other suggestions I'd be open to those as well.
Thanks for your help
Hey man, saw you over in the P5 thread and wanted to help you out over here!
Like the other guys said, check the sidebar first. As for roasting, I wouldn't recommend roasting as a beginner. Roasting can be a trial in patience, and there are already a ton of variables you need to focus on when learning how to brew to your liking. A lot of the people on this sub sell roasted beans, and like you said, there are definitely lots of roasters in your area of the world if you can find them.
Since you're getting invested in this, I would definitely recommend an electric burr grinder -- hand grinding gets old quickly, and you definitely want it to be a burr grinder and not a blade grinder. If you can't purchase the electric grinder, this one is also highly recommended. I also recommend a kitchen scale. Even though I don't really use a scale anymore, it helped when learning to understand about how much coffee and water I preferred when brewing. As far as the brew method goes, I usually tell my friends to start with an Aeropress, but since you've been playing P5, I think a V60 or Kalita Wave might fit your fancy. You can check out more information on how to brew each of these here. If you're going to use this method, just know that a gooseneck kettle will be preferable to a kettle with a small spout.
Grinding beans just before brewing is highly recommended, you should notice a distinct difference in taste quality. Every morning I would grind my beans using a ceramic conical burr coffee mill for my AeroPress (french press) which tasted much better than pre-ground. But over time that process became tedious and I have since switched to the faster, more convenient (and better tasting) Lavazza espresso maker.
And is there a coffeeshop near you where you can go to buy coffee and let them grind it? :) Anyway, if you really want to get good coffee you'll need a grinder :) I have the Hario Skerton which is not great for FP although I like the results I get from it, you could also install this mod which will make the grinder better for coarse grinds like the french press, both together are not that expensive and will make a huge difference because your beans are freshly ground right before making the coffee :) (Personally I don't have the mod yet)
What machine/device do you have to brew coffee?
I have this one and it's fine for my purposes. But, I'm not trying to use it for espresso or french press...
Mainly convenience. If you can't afford that burr grinder, buy this:
Eh. I can do $60, or maybe a couple bucks more. I have amazon prime, so at least I won't need to worry about shipping.
Here's what came up when I searched for Hario Skerton - does that seem right?
Here's the highest rated aeropress - how does it look?
Yeah, a grinder is probably the most important piece and should constitute the majority of your budget. I mentioned the Hario Skerton and the Capresso Infinity as two possible options within your budget.
Difference to pre-ground coffee is super noticeable in my opinion, especially a few days after you initially open the pre ground package you can notice the beans losing their flavor.
I'd really reccomend splurging on a good electric grinder, especially if you drink coffee every day. I used two different hand grinders for a while (Hario $40 and Brillante $12) and they worked fine and gave a good grind but there were two main problems:
I recently bought a refurbished Baratza Encore grinder for $100 and I love it. Grinds beans quickly and easily, has a bunch of settings so I can mess around with grind size, and gives a consistent grind. I think it will justify the higher cost several times over in the long lifespan I hope it will have.
One like this
As long its ceramic and burr it should perform well.
Is there any difference between the two of these?
Little late to this thread and new to the sub, but hopefully someone can still answer my questions! Before I start I'd like to say that I don't have $300 to spend on a good coffee set with a grinder, kettle and etc.
I've never been a huge coffee drinker but I'm really interested in going for it now. I've only ever had regular coffee brands made in an electric coffee maker and I always ended up adding a lot of sugar and milk because it was too strong. This being the case, my research has showed pour over coffee having a smoother taste than something like a french press, although french press is considerably cheaper!
My biggest question is, should I splurge a little for a decent kettle, grinder and pour over coffee maker to achieve what I think to be my preferred taste? Alternatively, I could easily grab a french press from Starbucks via a friend working there for fairly cheap.
That being said, I'm very interested in the art that is pour over coffee and fine tuning it to achieve better taste. The only problem is, everything I've looked at so far is incredibly expensive to start out and I'm not ready to spend that kind of money into this endeavor just yet. The $20-$30 for the coffee maker isn't the problem, it's the $50 hand grinder and $50 kettle that get me thinking that I shouldn't go down that rabbit hole.
Edit: I found a cheap and highly rated Grinder, an easy to use coffee dripper and a decent sized server but I'm unsure of if I'd need one if I'm only making 1-2 cups at a time. Thoughts on these selections and any recommendations for a kettle?
Unfortunately the cost is slowly racking up past the point of me being comfortable spending it all at once.
I use the Hario Ceramic grinder. It's a burr grinder and comes with a cap for the bottom. So you can sit and grind by the fire at night and save and seal for morning. It can be a little tiring but thats a hand grinder for you.
As for making coffee. I use a simple Stainless steel French Press I got for a steal on Amazon.
How about this? Its a ceramic coffee grinder, might be what you're looking for.
>I was thinking of getting an Aeropress and a hand grinder (I usually wake up before my roommates) and some good beans. But that's all I know. What do I need?
This is a solid start - a Hario hand grinder like the Skerton or Mini Mill would be adequate and cost-effective options.
I kind of disagree with other posters on a scale - in my mind it's not necessary or crucial for an AP. It's certainly a nice-to-have, but the AP is a pretty forgiving method so you don't need to be precise - especially at first if you're just wanting to start trying it out, or you just want a decent cup of coffee and aren't too particular.
Of course, if you start going down the rabbit hole even farther, you may start to get even pickier and at that point, a scale along with a kettle with a temperature gauge, higher-end grinder, etc will become "necessary".
Get an Aeropress with an SS filter and a good manual burr grinder. If you don't have a little drug scale, get a cheapy one.
I prefer the 'inverted method'.
The Aeropress is fantastic. When you store it, keep the pieces separated so it doesn't get musty or gross. It's the best bang for your buck. The SS filter is nice because it allows for more oil to pass through, which for most coffees is a great thing.
A digital gooseneck kettle is ideal, but if you're on a budget, get a normal electric kettle.
The most important thing is your grinder. You can tweak the rest of the process all you like, but if the grind isn't good, the coffee will suffer.
I was using this for three years up until January when I finally decided I had to get an electric one. I'd like to try out the Sauvie Island coffee, though. That sounds like it would be close to me, but I'm not able to find Good Coffee in Beaverton on the Googles.
Also, is this grinder better than the one in the picture?
Chemex might be a bit more difficult to get a decent brew out of. You'll probably want a pouring (gooseneck) kettle and have to use some technique to get a nice brew. Aeropress doesn't require any finesse, just timing.
You can specify on the website how you want it ground (or not). It'd be my advice to get a hand grinder + an aeropress. Hario do a cheap grinder through amazon - these two would probably work out about the same as a Chemex.
EDIT: [link] + [link]
Getting a decent electric burr grinder will set you back ~100-$150, depending on whether you get it new or used/refurbished. The Baratza Encore is probably the best entry-level model you can get.
There's nothing wrong with automated drip brewers; it's just that many machines made by run-of-the-mill "departmental store" brands (e.g. Cuisinart, DeLonghi, etc.) fail to produce water hot enough for proper extraction (195-205°F). In the past 5 years or so there have been some great machines on the market that manage to do exactly that, and have been SCAA-certified, to boot. Even some brands like OXO and Kitchenaid have jumped on the bandwagon. That being said, these brewers typically cost upwards of $200, so you'd be looking at a brew setup of at least $300-$350.
A more economical solution? Get a hand burr grinder like a Hario Skerton and a manual brewer like a Bonavita Immersion Dripper. Easily under $100, but you lose the convenience of waking up to a fresh pot in the morning.
Hi, fellow noob here. I have heard really good things about this burr grinder, its a cheap hand grinder but it has some really good reviews for what it is. [link]
Thanks! Is this the one? [link]
Depending on the amount of effort you want to put into making a cup of coffee, there are different ways you can go. I'm no coffee connoisseur but I've found that French presses leave some sediment and make some kinds of beans taste less than optimal. Still, it is the most versatile (you can use hot water to brew quickly, or cool water with the ground beans in the fridge for a few hours to cold brew it) and there's not much that can go wrong with a press.
I'm sure there are cheaper options but the Hario Ceramic Mill has been a reliable (if only a bit inconsistent with coarser grinds) grinder for over a year of frequent use now. As for French presses, anything not excessively cheap should be fine, especially if it's going to be a jumping board into the world of coffee. Someone below mentioned Bodum and I think something relatively cheap like this one should serve you well.
I tend to make my coffee before work and I've found that it's faster and tastes better (to me) to use an Aeropress. On days where I have more time, or if I'm trying to highlight a specific aspect of the beans I'm using, I use a Moka pot; if you really want to cut down on sediment, a Chemex setup provides the "cleanest" cup of coffee that I've tried so far.
Again, I'm no connoisseur so take what I wrote with a huge grain of salt. I'm 99% sure that there are a bunch of coffee subreddits here with a lot of good information so do your research before you buy but the main thing to keep in mind is that the quality and freshness of the beans matters much more than the tools you use to brew them with. Hopefully these suggestions helped a bit!
Well this is gonna get kinda long and will only scratch the surface but I'll break down the pros and cons of some of the most popular entry-level gear in as un-confusing of a way as I can. First up, let's look at grinders.
First off, you want a burr grinder, particularly a conical burr grinder because those blender-y blade grinders they sell at wal-mart for $5 don't get any kind of a consistent grind. Varying sizes in a grind means varying levels of extraction in the cup and that means off flavors. Because burr grinders are more expensive, hand crank conical burr grinders are commonly recommended to beginners because of their lower price point compared to similar quality electrics. They're cheap and work well but do have some drawbacks beyond the extra effort involved in grinding. First, most of them don't have actual grind settings and you adjust the grind size by twisting a wheel until it looks as fine/coarse as you want it to. If you use different brew methods and switch grind size a lot, this can be a bit of a pain. Second, most hand grinders aren't ideal for french press because of the way the burrs are stabilized; they'll give fantastic fine/medium grinds but the coarse grind is a tad inconsistent. That said, I use a hand grinder for french press all the time and am relatively happy with the results. A few common ones are:
The Hario Skerton. I personally have one and love it. As I said, not perfect for french press but it's a durable daily driver that never lets me down and can do an espresso grind damn near as well as a $300 baratza
The hario mini is essentially the same grinder in a different, smaller package. Perfect for travel
The porlex JP-30 is a tad more expensive but has grind settings that, while unmarked, do "click" into place making adjusting grind coarseness a bit easier
If you wanted to go the electric route, I've seen refurbished Baratza encore grinders for around $100. This will give you a mediocre espresso grind but a perfect and much easier drip and french press grind
Next up: preparation methods
French presses use a metal mesh filter, which gives you all of the oils in the cup and lets a tiny bit of really fine coffee solids through, which gives the cup a rich, full-bodied, velvety character They're also very easy to use as there's pretty much one accepted way to brew in them. And here's Philly's own Todd Carmichael demonstrating it. As far as which one to buy, they're all pretty much the same: a glass tube with a stick in it and some mesh on the end of the stick. I like my sterlingpro a lot but the bodum chambord is hugely popular and looks just as nice. Even a cheapo will do the job just as well, though, even if it doesn't look as nice.
pourovers do essentially the same thing as a drip coffee machine just with a lot more input from you, which is good because all but the most ludicrously expensive drip machines are very inconsistent and don't work as well as just doing it your own damn self. With a pourover, you're going to use a kettle or measuring cup with a spout to pour the water over the grounds in a set amount of time (3-4 minutes depending on the grind size) and usually in a very specific manner. Because these use a paper filter, there are no oils or insoluble solids in the cup so the coffee is clearer, tastes cleaner and usually a bit brighter than french press coffee. Popular models include the Hario v60 which is one of the more finicky models. If you decide on one of these, be sure to use a gooseneck kettle like Mr. Carmichael was using in the french press video above. Slightly more forgiving are the kalita wave and the melitta both of which would work fine with a normal kettle so long as it has some type of pour spout. If you want something with very thick filters, so as to produce a very clear cup, and also looks very nice, the chemex is a beautiful thing that produces great coffee, has a built-in carafe, and can make more than one cup at a time. Really more of a replacement for a large-volume drip machine than most pourovers.
The Aeropress is an absurdly popular, extremely versatile, and very well priced coffee brewer which is essentially a huge syringe with a paper filter instead of a needle. There's a thousand recipes online with different ways to use it, all of which produce a different cup.
Also worth noting is that you may want a kettle with temperature control, coffee should be brewed at 195-205F, so knowing what temp your water is helps reduce a lot of the headaches of cooling off boiled water for a vague amount of time. This bonavita is a little on the pricey side but has temp control and a gooseneck, which is always useful
You cannot get a quality burr grinder, but for someone new to coffee, the Hario Skerton is perfectly adequate.
Freshly ground, good coffee is IMO the most important factor. Even if it's Starbucks beans, it'll taste a lot better. Get a Hario Skerton, and if you want truly orgasmic coffee, get an Aeropress and some cheap electric kettle like this one. Just got an Aeropress after having used siphon pots; a V60; Turkish coffee methods; regular drip; and more, but I enjoy the Aeropress more than any of them. It doesn't make the best cup of coffee I've ever had, but it makes freaking amazing coffee, especially for how little time it takes to make a cup (1 minute or so, not including kettle heat-up time).
I don't what you mean by cheap, but I have a Hario Mini Mill when I first started. Then I bought a Baratza Encore and it was a huge step up from a manual.
The main reason I bought the Baratza is because of the great customer service reviews I constantly heard. Someone recently posted about the nonexistent Bodum costumer service he had so I'm glad I went with Baratza.
They sell refurbs for $100 here. Otherwise, I'd pick up a Hario Skerton until you can upgrade.
Try the Hario Skerton. I've never personally owned one, but it's very often recommended as the best entry-level (non-electric) grinder. If you have a higher budget, the Baratza Encore, which I own, is a great burr grinder at a great price. You can also find them refurbished and shave off $20-30 off the price tag. If you have no real budget, get the Vario. Also a very highly-praised grinder, and apparently a lot better at espresso. I also have a V60, and I would very highly recommend it. Quick, easy to clean, and produces a very clean cup of coffee. I use an 8-9 on my Encore, but experiment around to find the perfect grind setting for your setup. I also don't have a gooseneck kettle; from what I hear, it's a fantastic upgrade, but I can deal with what I have just fine. If you want to try espresso, try the Gaggia Classic. Also very commonly recommended as one of the best espresso machines in its price range. Always buy freshly-roasted beans (or even roast them yourself!). Good luck!
As for hand mills, a lot of people recommend the LIDO 3, but its expensive. I use a Hario Skerton, and it does a good job for me using a V60 and French press.
Sorry for all of the questions. Would this one work? Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill Skerton Storage Capacity (100g) [link]
This Skerton is a little less. If your reallllly on a budget.
You can't do better than this for grinding a lot of spices/pepper corns.
Hope someone has an answer because I'm lost. Which hand grinder is better?
the Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill Skerton Storage Capacity (100g)
Hario "Canister" Ceramic Coffee Mill
>What kind of gift can i get for someone who loves coding?
What language(s)? Do you know what text editor he uses? I got a sweet woodcut of Vim commands for my bf and he loves it to bits.
If he doesn't already have one, get him a Raspberry Pi or Arduino kit.
Also, in my experience, all programmers love caffeine. If he's a coffee lover, maybe get him a sweet coffee setup? A hand grinder, Chemex and filters, goose neck kettle, along with a cool mug and some great local coffee.
I can't account for its BIFLabiliy but this [link] is an excellent manual grinder. Plus it makes you work for your cup, which is a good wake up call.
A decent hand grinder is something like the Hario or the Porlex. Hario is cheaper, but a more proven track record. Porlex are well-regarded, more money, and a slicker design across less well-tested fundamentals. Having tried both I really liked the Porlex and was impressed by the Hario, ymmv but I'd recommend Porlex.
As far as french press, just hit your local home goods or department store.
A bean vault or similar storage is totally unecessary, will only add a day or two to your beans if it works at all.
Don't know shit about good beans in Houston, though, sorry~!
Do you also have a grinder? My recommendation would be aeropress and a Hario Skerton, that should come in right around $50.
My suggestion for the cheapest possible coffee setup would be a Hario Skerton and a Melitta cone.
Total cost, around $40. Grinding by hand is annoying, but you can get quality coffee relatively cheap. (Not as convenient as a pod machine, but the cheapest one costs twice as much and produces fairly terrible coffee.)
Yes, there is! I purchased the same machine about 6 months ago, and found that the espresso it makes is okay, but could be better. Naturally, I sought out how to make it better!
I bought this grinder, the 607706 filter basket, this tamper, and this frothing pitcher in an attempt to make it better. I had to remove the underside of my portafilter, so it looks like the one in this video.
The test grinds I've done with the Hario grinder make a solid puck! I had to adjust it to what seemed like the finest setting, but the grinds are consistent and look great for espresso. I have yet to try it--I will do so this weekend--but I feel like this setup will get the most out of the machine.
Good luck with yours!
Since you feel that $.35/oz coffee is still too expensive, I'm assuming that you won't be willing to shell out about $100 for a good entry level electric burr grinder. If that's true, an inexpensive manual burr grinder would be you best option. The Hario Skerton and Slim are the cheapest options, but there's also the Porlex JP-30 and Mini. I don't believe that the Porlex grinders will give you better grind consistency, but you might prefer their build or aesthetics more, and the Porlex Mini is the best choice (IMO) for use with an Aeropress travel kit.
If manual isn't an option (or you're willing to spend more), the Capresso Infinity is the cheapest electric burr grinder that I will recommend. You can get it cheaper than it is on Amazon by using a coupon at Bed Bath and Beyond or Casa.com (an Amazon company), or from certain coffee related stores and sites (such as Kaldi's Coffee, a St Louis, MO based cafe chain and coffee roaster). If possible, I'd strongly recommend that you go with the [Baratza Encore]() if you want an entry-level electric. With the Baratza you'll get at least slightly better grind quality, less ground retention, better customer service, and Baratza grinder parts are readily available. You can sometimes get the Encore slightly cheaper ($5-15 dollars less) by buying it with a coupon at somewhere like Crate and Barrel, or buying a refurbished model from Baratza (they stock refurbs every Thursday). I believe that refurbs come with the same 1 year warranty as new models and might even have new burrs, but you only save about $10 over a new Encore because of shipping.
As far as beans go, stick to whole beans of the best quality and freshness that you can get and grind for each brew. Sounds like you already plan on using whole beans since you asked about grinders though. The best beans for you are those that produce coffee that you enjoy.
I've been contemplating this one since I have a tiny kitchen and all the electric ones are too big.
Get an Aeropress, no brainer there. If you camp/hike/travel at all, the Porlex JP-30 (left) fits nicely inside the Aeropress. I have heard good things about the Porlex but don't have one. I do have a Hario Skerton and used it everyday for 2 years to make coffee in a job trailer during out of town work. I continued using it at home until I bought my Bodum Bistro about 6 months ago. I still take it camping but it's bulky and fairly delicate with the glass bottom. Also make sure you get or use a thermometer for your water. Don't just boil and pour.
If you want a conical, ceramic burr grinder you can get a Hario Skerton for pretty cheap.
The manual ones aren't too expensive.
Grinders: Others have given good advice, but here are links:
Hario Skerton: [link]
Porlex Mini: Porlex Mini Stainless Steel Coffee Grinder [link]
Everything I’ve read suggests one like this. Hand-crank from Japan.
I dig my Hario Skerton, it's around $50-60 Canadian. Definitely a step up from a blade grinder. As a bonus, it will thread on to a mason jar if you ever bust the glass reservoir.
You can get a pretty good hand grinder for $25, or a basic electric burr grinder for just over $30.
Neither are anywhere near top quality, but both will be a massive upgrade in grind quality over the blade grinder you're looking at, and are totally worth the extra few dollars. Grind consistency is extremely important for the flavor because a really inconsistent grind (which is unavoidable with a blade grinder) makes an even extraction all but impossible -- which will guarantee you some bitter and/or sour flavors that you'd otherwise be able to avoid.
(Edit: Literally five minutes after I posted, the burr grinder jumped to ~$40...)
I use one of these when I'm doing a rub, and the plastic grocery store for every day stuff.
Here is my setup
Hario Ceramic Grinder (Manual)
Able Coffee Kone - For Pourover
- I prefer the metal filter over paper.
Able Metal Filter - For Aeropress
I like this Hario V60 Decanter
I use the "inverted" aeropress technique
I follow this pourover technique
I have a hario skerton grinder that works pretty well. I get a little bit of wobble, but If I plunge really slowly at the end, I get hardly any sediment in the bottom. The glass jar that the grinds fall into is really nice - no static at all. The skerton also works really well for a finer grind like pourover or drip.
I own a Hario Skerton and a Capresso Infinity. The Hario Skerton is a better grinder in some respects, but I find it hard to stay consistent with my grind size. As a result, the Skerton is what I will take on the road, while the Infinity is used for both my Toddy and Chemex.
When I buy a new grinder, I'm going to get a Baratza; the Virtuoso if I can afford it, or the Encore otherwise.
All four of these grinders are good grinders, and scale linearly with additional features.
>Do you have any thoughts on the grinder?
That appears to be the same grinder as the Hario Skerton. While I don't own one, I've heard that it can be a bit inconsistent for coarser grinds (i.e. what you want for a French Press). The reason is that a coarser grind is achieved by creating a larger gap between the burrs, and since the shaft is only supported up near the handle, the burr tends to wiggle as you grind. Orphan Espresso makes a mod kit to help this problem, but by the time you add in the extra cost, you almost should just go with a different grinder.
In the end, it depends on how much money you're really willing to spend, because there's always something better if you just spend a little bit more.
FYI, the grinder is identical to the Hario Skerton which is $7 cheaper on Amazon
It's great for espresso grinds, but the grinder has something of a major flaw: when you make the grind more coarse (like for french presses), the conical burr will wobble on a 2nd axis. They make a $15 product to fix this here.
This video outlines the problem and solution: [link]
Edit: Fixed link.
Go with the Hario Skerton. The collector is glass (opposed to plastic on the mini mill) and it's made of much better quality components. I have both and I've had to get a new inner burr clip on the Mini Mill from Hario because it stripped out.
I have a Gaggia Classic, used this for years, works perfect. You can opt out of having the handle and hook it up to a power drill too. Under 50 usd:
Hario Skerton Ceramic Coffee Mill (100g) [link]
This is what I have. It has always worked wonderfully for me, never had any trouble with it.