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HLG 100 Rspec Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's?
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I'd suggest skipping the Mars 300w and saving your money to invest in a Quantum Board LED kit, these 100w kits are $150 on Amazon.
The LED tech in those Mars LEDs are outdated, the Mars 300 would be equivalent to about <~140w draw while outputting 150w HID, whereas this QB kit is closer to true 200w HID output at 96w draw. Compare the QB's lumen output of 15,000+ to the Mars' < 5,000.
You should consider HLG because it’s the best: HLG 100 V2 3000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nZmeFb013YN68
The average PPFD for the Sansi 15w is 111.56 μmol/s/m² based on 19.7” above plants. Flowering plants need 800 to 1k μmol/s/m². So you’re giving that plant about one tenth of the light it needs to flower. I see you have some natural light coming in, but if it’s fall/winter where you are, it’s not enough light for long enough to help very much.
Google “recommended ppfd for flowering” - that will help you understand what you need instead.
I like this HLG light but $150 is a lot.
HLG 100 Rspec Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_X25D0PBE8YFJYQV3W31A
This would be perfect for a setup that size.
HLG 100 Rspec Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_PGB5F52F6TSYWW2B95GR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is what I was considering. I've seen others get good results, but since I've never tried to produce fruit indoors my t5 works fine
I have two of these HLG 100 lights for $150. Bought one two years ago; it did so well I bought another one the next year. I’m embarrassed to tell you how much $$ i wasted trying to save money on cheap grow lights.
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> Yes of course you can grow quality stuff. I just got an SF1000 that I will be testing out soon. Currently using this light and following a basic template from Grow weed easy.
Congrats! Keep doing what you’re doing if it’s healthy.
The science still supports my statement, unfortunately.
I have 8 grow lights, which were purchased as I learned more about light and how plants use it and how that light is measured. (I didn’t know any of that stuff when I started.)
Included in my 8 grow lights is the exact light you linked to. I have it on my low light plants because it’s simply not enough for anything else, even at a distance of 6”.
This is my best (and most recent) purchase: HLG 100 Grow Light for Veg and Bloom - at $150, it’s a lot, but I kept having to replace my plants that were dying due to lack of light (or getting bugs because they were stressed by lack of light).
There are better lights, and probably better deals, but this one fit my budget and my lighting needs.
I assume OP is in my spot - genuinely wants their plants to thrive; not sure how to make that happen or how to get that information. I don’t want to advise them to spend $30 or $40 on a grow light I know can’t do the job for them.
Is this the light you have?
The biggest change in the last ten years has probably been the lights. You can ditch the hot, fragile, annoying HPS/MH for LEDs that run much cooler, use WAY less energy and are just less hassle all around. Quantum boards like this are probably the state of the art, but there are other LED options and preferences vary.
Quieter DC fans running at lower speeds are becoming an option now as well. Cooler lights mean you don't need giant fans to maintain temps. I've run a 3x3 with a single exhaust fan that was quiet enough to keep in the office while I worked.
Also, gear in general can be had for much cheaper now. You can get everything you need on Amazon without breaking the bank. Lights, fans, hydroponic equipment, tents, etc. Hell, you can get a whole grow-in-a-box for under $500. It won't be the best gear on the market by a long shot, but it says a lot that it's even an option.
By the same coin, there are high-dollar, professional versions of everything now as well.
It is the HLG 100 V2 from Horticulture Lighting Group
It’s a great full spectrum light that we have been really happy with. HLG LED lights are talked about all over the forums and are generally well recommended. A couple key things we like about it: low heat, quality diodes with full spectrum output, small foot print fits our space well. Pulling only 100 watts from the wall it has really low heat output, since we can’t really put in a true ventilation exchange into the space low heat is important. With the “tent” closed and the closet door closed the clip fan pointed at the light is enough to keep the surface of the grow table getting to a maximum of about 85f. Growing the mix of plants we have that includes lettuce we try to keep it much cooler than that and with our living room ac and the closet door open the temp stays down around 70 fairly easily. The diodes are a much high quality and preferable spectrum to the blurple lights that are all over amazon. Initially we had purchased one of the blurples but the higher heat output, distracting color spectrum (since it shines into our living room when on), and higher quality of the build and components for a reasonably similar price we returned it and purchased the HLG.
Down the road we may add some more light either by adding an additional HLG 100 or changing this out for 2 QB288’s on a Heatsink run off 1 driver.
Yep, absolutely love taking all this information and learning more about it, i am so fascinated by this process and have learned so much. Thank you for the input, and idk what my “liking” is right now as i yet to find out what i like rather then what they need and im at that point where ill do anything for them to be ok. Lol(to a point ofcourse) just, am inpatient so looking at them everyday and seeing no difference is bugging me, hopefully this new one will do better.
New one
Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Uyv4Cb2WP4FQM
HLG 100 Rspec Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_ZHG-Fb8X9CFH2
For a bit more, and can easily be paid off on first grow:
Not much to elaborate on, the only thing you have in this pic to keep is the plant. Lose the mirror, it won't help at all! You need refraction not reflection, simple test to see what I'm talking about or what the difference is. Take a shoebox, line the inside with white paper, put a hole in one side to fit a flashlight, cut a little hole in the top center of the box, like a 1in hole will work. Take another shoebox line it with aluminum foil shiny side out, careful not to wrinkle it. Aluminum will have quite a bit better refraction than a mirror. (so if you want to see how bad a mirror is just put a mirror in the front of the box where the light will hit first using the foil on all other sides) Now shine the light in and see what little 1in hole is the brightest. (Flat white works better than gloss) Lose the lights all of them. Clean the junk out of the way so you have some room to work plus the light will bounce off the white wall. But a + is your plant dose look good and healthy!! She would do amazing with some good light with a good spectrum. Even one of those cheap ass Amazon lights would be way better. Here's a couple options the HLG being a awesome light for a single plant but it is a little more money.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_D239VRGXB9QQ99VG3GZA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 HLG 100 Rspec Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's
Saw you mentioned budget, just checked out super green labs. You really need to calculate "lumens per dollar".
There is nothing wrong with these lights but you are trading form over functionality and price compared to other "Quantum Boards".
You need to spend $350 for the 6 light package.
- grams per watt not listed
- umol not listed
- PPF not listed
- 6x15watts = 90 Watts.
- 3k Lumens * 6 lights = 18,000 Lumens
- 18,000 Lumens/$350 = 51 Lumens per Dollar
- 18,000 Lumens/90 Watts = 200 Lumens per watt (efficient but not powerful)
- grams per watt not listed
- 2.4 umol
- 220 PPF
- 95 Watts
- 14,196 Lumens
- 14,196 Lumens/$150 = 94 Lumens per Dollar
- 14,196 Lumens/95 Watts = 150 Lumens per watt (less efficient, more powerful)
Spider Farmer SF1000 $160
- 2.5 grams per watt
- 2.5 umol
- 250 PPF
- 100 Watts
- 16,439 Lumens
- 16,439 Lumens/$160 = 102 Lumens per Dollar
- 16,439 Lumens/100 Watts = 164 Lumens per watt (less efficient, more powerful)
Barely. I guess I should have been more specific because QB has been synonymous with LM301B/H since the jump. This boards chips are Samsung 2835 diodes. At less than half the efficiency and output: Quite simply not worth the money
https://www.samsung.com/led/lighting/mid-power-leds/2835-leds/lm283b-plus/
VS a proper 301B/H LED
https://www.samsung.com/led/lighting/mid-power-leds/3030-leds/lm301b/
EDIT: Proper (lower end/cost) light choices include:
HLG 100 V2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2
Mars Hydro TS600 https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07VL8FZS1
Mars Hydro TS1000 https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B07RSRX1RS
i see. https://www.mars-hydro.com/mars-tsw-2000-led-full-spectrum-hydroponic-led-grow-light or https://www.mars-hydro.com/mars-tsl-2000-led-full-spectrum-hydroponic-led-grow-light are you talking about, or both? i have 4x of these right now power draw is similar https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=psdc_14252941_t2_B076QDKVDZ
Go ahead and get a quantum board from Horticulture Lighting Group. Cheap, very powerful, and will light your space perfectly. This one will light your space perfectly- HLG 100 V2 3000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p2xMFbTHXPJDJ
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards
So, I think I am going to order off Amazon... any advice on the HLG 100 vs the HLG 135?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2#customerReviews
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Ok well scrog isn’t about height. It’s about square footage. For example I can get more out of two plants Scogged at about 2 feet high in my 4 x 4 x 7 foot tent than I could out of 4 tall plants.
It’s about using the “footprint” of the light in the most efficient way.
With tall plants you lose that efficiency. Basically the top of the plant is going to get that sweet light and the bottom is not. So further your plant gets from the sweet spot then the less yield you will eventually pull, especially from the bottom of the plant.
Now one way you could circumvent that is placing lights all around the plants. I just saw a cabinet grow with a sort of vertical scrog. In one of the weed subs. Maybe someone else can chime in here. But they essentially grew around a vertical screen with led strips surrounding the plants.
But in the end the yield wasn’t great.
But you could essentially grow tall skinny plants with a surround of led strips and an led topper.
Personally I say kiss. Keep it simple stupid.
I scrog. I like scrog I get about 6 ounces per plant per harvest so 12 ounces total out of my 4 x 4 It’s the best method I’ve found after dozens of grows and experiments.
I do not recommend blurple amazon leds. At the very least I recommend hps/mh lamps (that use a lot of power and give off a lot of heat so you need a good exhaust)
If you’re going to go led then start with quantum boards or cobs. Like someone else said they at least have resale value if you decide to stop growing. You can’t get $5 for an amazon blurple I promise you. I tried to sell mine on Craigslist for months in a legal state.
They’ll last years and in the end they’ll cost you less money in electricity. But you’re gonna pay more up front.
this is not much more than a blurple and is good for a 2 x 2 foot space.
Money far better spent than $100 blurple. Better yield better light.
If you want to see what I mean about scrogging, check out my grows on grow dairies
Check out a lot of grow styles and methods.
Read growweedeasy.com back to front. Then start over. Read it again. And again. Then again. And then again.
Then reference it during your grow.
Once you decide your grow method. Then pick lights to fit.
Good luck.
For a tent that small, I think you'd be better off with an HLG 100 v2 3000k (or at Amazon.
I don't have that light, but I use the next size up (an HLG QB288v2 3000k) in my 2x2x5.5' tent, and I've been very happy with it.
You're paying 130, right? For a few dollars more you can get a HLG light off amazon that would flower your 2x2 just fine.
https://smile.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2
If you want to get any serious growth, you would want something 5-10x as powerful as this light. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2
I thought it was this at first as well.
I've got 2 hlg 65w at the moment. Maybe I said grab this
The HLG 100 v2 consumes 95 watts, but produces very high quality light. The Viparspectra consumes 135 watts (according to the amazon product page, but it's old "blurple" (blue/red LED) tech, and a nontrivial portion of its wattage is actually powering the cooling fan.
The Viparspectra light will work okay, but if you're willing to exchange them, or want to pay more and upgrade later, (or if your Viparspectra just stops working after 10 days like mine...), consider returning in and getting the HLG light instead. Many online return windows are extra long right now.
That's also a pretty short tent, though it sounds like you know that. 2x2 is probably large enough for a personal grow, but if you can find a taller tent later (mine is 2x2x5'5") the extra headroom will make things a lot more convenient -- typically you need to keep LED lights 18"+ from the canopy to avoid light stress, so with a 4' tent they'll have to stay short.
Newbie myself. I'm happy with this one. See my post for some pics of the results so far.
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2
I like that it's white light - easier to see the plants. I have a phlizon 600w LED that I initially bought and then I added the HLG 100. It only pulls 95 watts from the wall which is great. Getting close to harvest so I'm totally psyched.
Nice! You won’t be disappointed. Good luck!!!
Just an FYI - it looks like the 135 is a lit you have to assemble and the actual light board is the same wattage as the 100. Either way you’ll be happy.
The HLG 100 was fully assembled:
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2
Last bit of advice - if you’re going to get a exhaust fan don’t get the Vivosun. I love their tent but the fan started making horrible noise after 17 days. They were cool about the refund but I went with:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002JQ4N92?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
It’s not a variable speed though but at least it’s an even sound. Like a window AC unit. Maybe a bit louder.
Just installed it and it feels not as bright as the COB one I bought last month. Thoughts?
HLG 100 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 3000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_blTMBbPHEZS84
Roleadro COB Led Grow Light, Cree 400W Plant Grow Light Full Spectrum for Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plant Growth, 2nd Generation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96WW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_HjTMBbQ30P5Z5
Use the cabinet as it is. 9 ft height is a huge advantage over a low-height tent.
One of these Quantum Boards will work just fine for the given area.
2 of these and your 100%
Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NA-1DbZMHKR5R
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